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{{Merge|Running a Mining Op|target=Mining Op}} | //{{Merge|Running a Mining Op|target=Mining Op}} | ||
This guide describes what to expect in the typical mining operation run by Eve University mining fleet commanders, and how to fit in smoothly. | This guide describes what to expect in the typical mining operation run by Eve University mining fleet commanders, and how to fit in smoothly. | ||
Remember, even if you don't have a ship for mining or hauling, University students can get one for free from the [[Mining Loaner Fleet]] program! | |||
'''''Important Note''''': Mining Loaner Fleet is no long being offered. | |||
== Types of Mining Ops == | == Types of Mining Ops == | ||
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*Ask in the "Industry.E-UNI" chat channel if there is a mining op. Alternatively, you can ask in the "Chat.E-UNI" channel. Additionally, check for mining channels on Mumble. | *Ask in the "Industry.E-UNI" chat channel if there is a mining op. Alternatively, you can ask in the "Chat.E-UNI" channel. Additionally, check for mining channels on Mumble. | ||
*You can also start your own fleet! | *You can also start your own fleet! | ||
== Participation Types == | == Participation Types == | ||
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Participating as a miner is very simple. Essentially, after joining the fleet, you'll warp to one of the fleet members, target your asteroids, and activate your miners. The ore will be placed in a specified jetcan or a specified Orca Corporation Hangar. If there isn't a jetcan near you feel free to make a new one by right clicking the ore in your cargo hold and clicking Jettison. Once the new can is made, right click the can in space and select Set Name; then give the can a name. | Participating as a miner is very simple. Essentially, after joining the fleet, you'll warp to one of the fleet members, target your asteroids, and activate your miners. The ore will be placed in a specified jetcan or a specified Orca Corporation Hangar. If there isn't a jetcan near you feel free to make a new one by right clicking the ore in your cargo hold and clicking Jettison. Once the new can is made, right click the can in space and select Set Name; then give the can a name. | ||
A common naming convention for fleet mining is | A common naming convention for fleet mining is as follows: | ||
FLEET HH:MM (in use) | |||
PULL HH:MM (moving on) | |||
FULL HH:MM (filled) | |||
<b>NOTE: Leave the <u>original</u> (creation) time in the name.</b> | |||
Once the can is full, rename can to 'Full TT:TT' (TT:TT is the original EVE time can was created). If you are leaving the area for any reason (e.g., the belt is depleted, there are no more asteroids in range, or you are simply calling it a day) before the can is full, rename the can to 'pull TT:TT' (where TT:TT is again the original EVE time the can was created). This ensures that you don't just warp away leaving a 'fleet' can to perhaps be overlooked. One practice that is often seen is to x up the can in Fleet chat when you change the status of your can from 'fleet' to 'full' or 'pull,' e.g., "x PULL 2015". Using this convention helps the haulers prioritize which can needs to be emptied next since jettisoned cans last approximately 2 hours. | |||
=== Hauler === | === Hauler === | ||
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After an op is complete, the ore still needs to be refined, the minerals transported and sold, and the shares distributed. If you are willing and able to assist with any of these things, let the fleet commander know and he may just take you up on them. These details are beyond the scope of this guide. | After an op is complete, the ore still needs to be refined, the minerals transported and sold, and the shares distributed. If you are willing and able to assist with any of these things, let the fleet commander know and he may just take you up on them. These details are beyond the scope of this guide. | ||
== Running a Mining Op == | |||
This assumes a highsec op. | |||
The goal of a mining op is to make ISK for every participant. Shares may be time based or weighted. For time-based, each participant in the operation is given a "share" based upon his time in the fleet. This simple mechanism is intentionally biased to favor newer players (with smaller mining ships like mining frigates and cruisers) at the expense of older players (with the Orcas and Hulks), as this may help get all of its members into larger mining ships (such as the Retriever Mining Barge) that they can then afford to buy. | |||
=== Checklist === | |||
#Pick your location. If you cannot refine the ore yourself, 50% Minmatar Mining Corporation stations or 50% Caldari Business Tribunal stations are good choices, as you can ask someone to refine for you, or use Aldrat so you can use the Uni's free [[Perfect Refine List#University_Service|perfect refine service]] at Aldrat IX - Moon 13 - MMC station. | |||
#Pick what type of op you want to run. This will depend on your resources. | |||
#*For example, with an Orca, everyone can mine and drop their ore directly into that (if within 2500m) and just use a JetCan while the Orca is docking (which it can then pick up with a tractor (if fitted)). | |||
#*With just an industrial hauler, the JetCan will be used to hold stuff while the hauler empties it out and takes the ore to station. | |||
#*Obviously, with more (Orca and Iteron V, two Orcas, etc.) your flexibility will go up. | |||
#Form a fleet. You will need at least one miner and one hauler to get started. | |||
#*Advertise the fleet in ''fleet finder'', and in chat channels Industry.E-UNI and Chat.E-UNI (repeating the ads periodically). | |||
#*Have fleet members join Industry.E-UNI in Mumble if they want, or start your own chat channel. | |||
#Log the "lasers on" and "lasers off" time of each member of the operation (or the join/leave time for industrials). You can use [[Scrapyard's Mining Op Worksheet]] or other spreadsheets for this. You can also use your chat log (make sure it's on) and have everyone say when they join and leave and what time it is, as a back up. Also log the entire fleet start/stop time (for yourself). | |||
#When the op's over, refine the ore into minerals. | |||
#*You can do this yourself, or | |||
#*You can ask someone to do it for you, or | |||
#*You can use the Uni's [[Perfect Refine List#University_Service|perfect refine service]] | |||
#Sell the minerals, probably in Rens or Hek | |||
#*You can use sell orders, but for faster ISK you can sell into the market; prices are usually better in Rens. You can check the Rens prices in Eystur, which is also one jump from Hek. | |||
#Using the times logged, calculate shares for each member and use your wallet to transfer the ISK to them after the sales go through. | |||
#Post an after-operation report on the [http:///forum.eveuniversity.org/viewforum.php?f=45 Mining Forum] if you wish | |||
=== Notes on Running a Smooth Op === | |||
* Assign someone to watch the "local" channel for people who might try to cause problems (more for JetCan ops than Orca ops). | |||
* Assign someone to watch the local grid (in the overview) for visitors, possible threats and other ships and rats. | |||
* Assign someone to watch Industry.E-UNI to bring new blood to the fleet and capture "rejoin fleet" requests. | |||
* The hauler should, if possible, not be the booster, so that boosts are not lost when the hauler is docked up. | |||
** Alternatively, at least structure the fleet so someone with Mining Foreman V is the booster when the hauler docks. | |||
* Try to maintain a fleet presence above or below the plane that the asteroids spawn in. | |||
** This way, if the fleet should need to warp out quickly (due to aggression or a smartbomb battleship attack), there will be nothing blocking egress. | |||
*It can help to have a MOTD to remind new members what they need to do as part of an op. | |||
**Here is an helpful template: | |||
<nowiki> | |||
Welcome to today's AMC shared can op. | |||
Current Location: [current belt link] | |||
Spreadsheet: [spreadsheet url here] | |||
Contract Ore to: [name of original FC] | |||
<b>Important:</b> | |||
Make sure you're on the spreadsheet correctly and logged into mumble, AMC channel. | |||
When you start mining, put into fleet chat: | |||
LASERS ON HH:MM | |||
When you stop mining: | |||
LASERS OFF HH:MM | |||
Naming your cans: | |||
FLEET HH:MM (in use) | |||
PULL HH:MM (moving on) | |||
FULL HH:MM (filled) | |||
<b>NOTE: Leave the <u>original</u> (creation) time in the name.</b> | |||
Share cans whenever possible (that means dumping into a fleet can if one is available, instead of creating one yourself) | |||
Miners, PLEASE Stack your Ore! | |||
</nowiki> | |||
=== Determining Shares === | |||
The mining op fleet commander has the final say on how to distribute shares and make operation rules. (You're always free to find another fleet or start your own if you don't like it.) The fleet commander, however, does have the obligation to ensure that everyone joining the mining operation is aware of the rules and distribution of shares when they first join (or consider joining). Once the rules and shares are laid out, they should not be changed after the fact. | |||
===== Rules ===== | |||
* The fleet commander should keep a record of the total ore mined of each type, the total refined minerals, and the total ISK which was received. | |||
* The fleet commander should keep a record of the times each participant spent in the operation. | |||
* The fleet commander ''may'' record the logistics times associated with processing the ore, selling, etc., solely for reporting purposes. | |||
** This is to let other fleet commanders know how much time they might expect to spend on these activities. | |||
* These records (if kept electronically) should be made available to any fleet member who asks (or any Uni Director, Officer or Manager) for a week. | |||
* An "After Operation Report" can be made on the [http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=19986], if desired. | |||
===== Shares ===== | |||
* The fleet commander (or someone he designates and who accepts) will handle the post-operation logistics including refining, transporting, selling and distributing shares. | |||
** These activities are not considered part of the operation for share purposes. | |||
* All funds gained from the op will be included in the total sum distributed to the members of the op as shares. | |||
** There is no required "operation donation" to the Uni for running an op. | |||
Weighted ops are also an option. There are various spreadsheets that can be used, [https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AtRzbOOErPTDdFVMMW5rN1dZa0ljZ3JCdW9FalJBX0E&hl=en&authkey=CI6Xt0U such as this one]. These can be used to weigh profits by actual contribution, such as laser and hauling capacity. This type of op might be better at encouraging veteran pilots, which will likely increase the total minerals gained, while still providing a fair distribuition. The spreadsheet automates this heavily, so all the fleet commander need do is arrive a set of weights that satisfy everyone in the fleet.<br> | |||
=== Example Shares === | |||
A simple example: | |||
The operation goes on for 5 hours | |||
*The fleet commander's ship participated for all 5 hours (probably hauling or with an Orca) | |||
*Seven ships participated for 3 hours each | |||
*Three ships participated for 2 hours each | |||
*Total effort: 5h + 7 x 3h + 3 x 2h = 32 ship/man hours | |||
The mined ore sells for 160 million ISK, so each man hour of work is worth 160/32 = 5 million ISK | |||
The proceeds are as follows: | |||
*Fleet commander: 5 * 5m = 25 million ISK | |||
*3 hour participants: 3 * 5m = 15 million ISK | |||
*2 hour participants: 2 * 5m = 10 million ISK | |||
*Total: 25m + 7 x 15m + 3 x 10m = 25m + 105m + 30m = 160 million | |||
(The fleet commander will usually use a spreadsheet to manage all of this, rather than doing it by hand as in this example.) | |||
You can ask the fleet commander when to expect the ISK. Please be patient, as it can sometimes take the FC some time to refine and sell the ore, especially if he uses a third party to refine and sells using sell orders. That will get you more ISK, so you should be happy. | |||
== Participating in a Mining Op == | == Participating in a Mining Op == | ||
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#Say bye to your fleetmates. | #Say bye to your fleetmates. | ||
== References == | == References == | ||
* [[Amarr Mining Campus]] | |||
* [[Chat Channels and Mailing Lists#Passworded Channels|Industry.E-UNI chat channel]] | |||
* [[Determine which ore to mine for most profit]] | |||
* [http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=434899 Halada's Complete Miner's Guide] | |||
* [[Mining]] | |||
* [[Mining 101]] | |||
* [[Mining 102]] | |||
* [[Ice Mining]] | |||
* [[Mining Ships]] | |||
* [[Mining Barges]] | |||
* [http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewforum.php?f=45 Mining Forum] | |||
* [[Mining in the Apetter Constellation]] | |||
* [[Mining Loaner Fleet]] | |||
* [[Refining]] | |||
* [[Scrapyard's Mining Op Worksheet]] | |||
* [[Perfect Refine List|University and Player Perfect Refine List]] | |||
[[Category:Mining]] [[Category:AMC]] | [[Category:Mining]] [[Category:AMC]] | ||