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= What is this all about? =
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This guide should help you if you feel that your assets get messed up and spread over dozens of systems so that it's hard to find the stuff you need. It explains how to choose and establish a 'base' for running regular missions efficiently in a particular system in highsec.
  
This little guide should help you, when you feel that your assets get messed up, spread over dozens of systems and it gets harder to find the stuff you need. This is about setting up bases and getting your stuff sorted. It also tells you about what tools are there to get some order into your stuff and what you will need for a missioning base to have all things covert. Setting up bases is also a way to get very familar with an area. Rather than moving around a lot and doing missions over the whole hig sec, you can stay at some interesting spot and know it very well. Knowing tradehubs near your base can make you some extra isk by using the much higher sell prices there.
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Setting up bases is also a way to get very familar with an area. Rather than moving around a lot and doing missions over the whole of high sec, you can stay in one location where you know all the agents and are familiar with the local tradehubs.
  
  
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== Choosing a Base ==
  
= Setting up a basic missioning base =
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First you should identify an agent that suits your needs. You can use [http://eve-agents.com/ Eve Agents] to do this. In most cases this will be an L4 agent, as most serious solo mission-running which justifies setting up a base is L4-based. If you don't have access to L4 agents, you can identify a good one and then grind up standing with his or her corporation until you can use him or her.
  
First you should use [http://eve-agents.com/ Eve Agents] to find an missioning agent that suits your needs.
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* If you want to do fighting missions, use the best Command, Internal Security or Security agents you have acess to.
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* If you want to do transports as well, use Public Relations, Administration or Intelligence.
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* If you want mining missions use Manufacturing or Astrosurveying agents.
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* Remember that higher quality agents, based in lower-security systems, will offer greater rewards.
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** The security status of the agent's home system has more effect than the agent's quality.
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* If you are involved in PvP it can be useful to have access to a L4 locator agent.
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* If you plan to make money from loyalty points (and you should), think about the items offered in the LP store of the agent's corp.
  
- If you want to do fighting missions, use the higest ranking command, internal security or security agents you have acess to.
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Don't forget that you can ask fellow players for advice on choosing an agent -- if you're in E-Uni and can't get suggestions from the general channels, the Missions.E-UNI channel is a good place to ask.
  
- If you want to do transports as well, use Public Relations, Administration or Intelligence.
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Look at the system your chosen agent is in. Neighbouring lowsec systems are usually a problem, as you will have to turn down missions which send you there (or, alternatively, attempt them, and die horribly to the first semi-competent pirate who chances by).
  
- If you want mining missions use manufacturing or astrosurveillance agents.
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Consider the trade hub local to the system you're looking at: ask around to find out which trade hub is the closest, and look at this wiki's [[Trade_Hubs|list of hubs]]. The distance you have to travel between your mission base and your local hub is important because you'll likely be buying ammo and selling loot and salvage there. Remember that besides the big hubs (Jita, Rens &c) most regions have some secondary hub systems; if your chosen system is a popular mission-running system then it's likely that there will be some trade in missioning supplies there (possibly with a premium for convenience -- check prices).
  
Look at the system the agent is in. If the system is crowded with players (constantly over 50 players), the system is most likely a trade or mission hub. This means the agent will send you to other systems very often for kill missions. Also neigboring low sec systems are a bad thing, as the agent will send you there very often, wich means you have to deny much missions. Best spot is a system that is not crowded with players surrounded by high sec systems.
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The chances are that any particularly good agent or group of agents will already be frequented by other players, creating a mission hub. To tell if your system is a mission hub, visit it: look for missioning battleships on the directional scanner as you move around it, and sit on the undock of your agent's station to see if there's a regular procession of battleships and marauders entering and leaving.
  
If you have chosen a station, bookmark it. Crate a folder inside your "places" tab and name it "bases" move the bookmark there. Your base will now show up as a target when navigating in space. You can also use the assets tab to navigate very fast once you have gathered all your stuff at your bases.
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There are advantages and disadvantages to being in a mission hub: it may be easier to find supplies without travelling, but any clustering of mission-runners will bring [[Ninja_Salvaging|ninjas]] and possibly lag with them. The worst systems for ninjas are systems which are trade ''and'' mission hubs, like Dodixie and Rens. Conversely, these systems are also very convenient for shopping! You'll need to make a trade-off between convenient shopping and high-quality agents on one side, and levels of harassment from ninjas on the other.
  
To set up a base, you will need two things: Containers and ships.
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If you have chosen a station, bookmark it. Crate a folder inside your "Places" tab and name it "Bases". Move the bookmark there. You can use the bookmark to quickly right-click and 'set destination' without having to search for the system. Once you have assets there you can also use the Assets window for quick destination-setting.
  
== Containers ==
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==Equipment==
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To set up a base, you will need two things: ships and supplies. Once you have them, you may want to use containers to organise them.
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=== Ships ===
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There are ships you should have at every missioning base:
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* Shuttles to do some easy courier jobs as well as some mission blitzing (for example Recon 1&2). They are also a fast way to move between bases.
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** Fast frigates like the Minmatar Vigil are a viable alternative to shuttles, and can carry more and fit a few modules.
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* An industrial to gather your stuff and possibly do transport missions
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* A mission ship appropriate to the level of missions you're doing, usually this means a mission-fitted battleship of some kind.
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You may also want:
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* A salvage/looting ship if you plan to loot and salvage.
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** A destroyer will do, though it may struggle with loot-heavy L4s
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** An agile battlecruiser (like the Hurricane) is ideal for L4s and, fitted with cargo expanders, can double as a small transport (in the 1,500 to 2,000m<sup>3</sup>  range).
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* A mining barge or mining cruiser if you want to do mining missions or mine at belts.
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===Supplies===
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You will also need:
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* Ammunition, unless you use lasers. If you use projectiles or missiles you will want different damage types for different NPC enemies.
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* Drones. You will want alternative flights for different NPC enemies.
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* A selection of different armor or shield hardeners, so that you can tailor your resistances to suit NPCs' damage types.
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You may also want to consider a selection of tanking modules so that you can not only alter your resistances, but also increase or decrease your tank -- after a while you will learn which missions don't require your full tank, and then you will be able to dial your tank back and fit for more damage or more speed so as to complete them faster.
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=== Containers ===
  
 
There are various containers in the game, the most interesting for bases are giant secure containers, freight containers, and station containers.
 
There are various containers in the game, the most interesting for bases are giant secure containers, freight containers, and station containers.
  
 
'''Giant Secure Containers'''
 
'''Giant Secure Containers'''
:Good for short term station use.
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*Good for short term station use.
:They can be broken down or moved easily.
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*They can be broken down or moved easily.
:Giant secure containers are the smallest, and can hold 3900m<sup>3</sup>.
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*Giant secure containers are the smallest, and can hold 3900m<sup>3</sup>.
:Can fit in standard industrials with ease, making moving them, goods and all, quite easy.
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*Can fit in standard industrials with ease, making moving them, goods and all, quite easy.
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'''Freight Containers'''
 
'''Freight Containers'''
:Good for medium-long term station use, or for mining use.
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*Good for medium-long term station use, or for mining use.
:Can hold 120000m<sup>3</sup>.
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*Can hold 120000m<sup>3</sup>.
:Can be broken down or moved without time requirements.
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*Can be broken down or moved without time requirements.
:Can be moved by a freighter, will not fit in an industrial.
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*Can be moved by a freighter, will not fit in an industrial.
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'''Station Containers'''
 
'''Station Containers'''
:Good for permanent station use.
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*Good for permanent station use.
:Cannot be moved to another station.
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*Cannot be moved to another station.
:''Once assembled and used, cannot be broken down, destroyed, sold, or otherwise removed for 30 days.''
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*''Once assembled and used, cannot be broken down, destroyed, sold, or otherwise removed for 30 days.''
:Station Container can hold 1Mm<sup>3</sup>, Station Vault can hold 10Mm<sup>3</sup>, Station Warehouse can hold 100Mm<sup>3</sup>.
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*Station Container can hold 1Mm<sup>3</sup>, Station Vault can hold 10Mm<sup>3</sup>, Station Warehouse can hold 100Mm<sup>3</sup>.
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For the basic missioning base, you need 2 containers: One named "Loot" and one named "Equipment".<br>
 
- The 'Equipment' container is for items for fitting your ships, such as mission-specific hardeners, drones, ammo, afterburners or target painters.
 
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- The 'Loot' container is for all the loot you gather, minerals, ore, and everything you wish to sort out later.
 
 
 
To set up the containers, first assemble them.<br>
 
Once assembled, right click the container and select 'rename' to give it a new name for easy identification.<br>
 
If you are using a station container, then right click it again, and select 'configure container' and select default state of items as 'unlocked'<br>
 
  
This gives you a basic layout, which keeps your valuable equipment safe from accidentally selling or reprocessing.
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For a basic missioning base you could use two containers: one named "Loot" and one named "Equipment".
Just place everything you get from your missions into the loot container and sort it out when you have enough stuff there.
 
  
== Ships ==
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*The 'Equipment' container is for supplies for fitting your ships, as discussed above.
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* The 'Loot' container is for all the loot you gather, minerals, ore, and everything you wish to sort out later.
  
There are ships you should have at every missioning base.
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To set up the containers
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# Assemble them.
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# Once assembled, right click the containers and select 'rename' to give them a new names for easy identification.
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# If you are using station containers, then right click them again, and select 'configure container' and select default state of items as 'unlocked'.
  
- Shuttles can do some easy courier jobs aswell as some mission blitzing (for example recon 1&amp;2). They are also the fastest way to move between bases.
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This gives you a basic layout, which keeps your valuable equipment safe from accidental sale or reprocessing.  
  
- Industrials can be used to gather your stuff and to do transport missions
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Place everything you get from your missions into the loot container and sort it out when you have enough stuff there. Alternatively, it is possible to sort items straight into your industrial.
  
- Cruiser to do level 1 and 2 missions
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You can set up more complicated sets of containers -- having separate containers for high slot, medium slot, and low slot items makes fitting new ships quick and easy, for example, while containers can also help you organise research or manufacturing.
  
- Battlecruiser to do level 3 missions
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== Transport ==
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You will probably find it most efficient to steadily run missions in your base system, letting the loot and salvage accumulate for a while before sorting it into low-value items to be reprocessed and medium/high-value items to be sold. You can then take your items for sale to your local trade hub, sell them, and buy more ammo (which is usually cheaper in trade hubs than in your base system -- but do check prices) before returning to base.
  
- Battleship for level 3 and 4 missions
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You can sell loot and salvage direct to buy orders, which has the advantage that you get the money immediately and don't have to spend much time or attention. You can also set up sell orders for your loot and salvage in your local trade hub which you can then, with the right trading skills trained, adjust while missioning in your base system. Note that your base will need to be in the same region as your chosen trade hub to do this.
  
- Destroyer with salvage fit if you use gunboats/missileboats and want to get the salvage
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It doesn't take much effort to suicide-gank a T1 industrial, so try not to carry too much value in your hold in any one trip.
  
- Mining barge or Mining cruiser if you want to do mining missions or mine at belts
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If you're also trading in LP store items which need normal T1 base items for their creation, you can also haul these base items home on your return trips from your trade hub. The suicide-gank caveat applies to trips taking your LP store items to market/contracts too: if you're going to transport a job lot of Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizers, consider using a fast frigate rather than an industrial.
  
= Growing your bases =
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==Supplementary Income==
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Once you're based in one place there are a number of side-activities which you can branch into.
  
If you have other projects running like production, planetary interaction or research, add containers for the special materials.<br>
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You could investigate
If you are heavily combat oriented, use gunboats or drones, then containers will help sort munitions. <br>
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* [[Trading]] -- this can grow organically from selling loot through sell orders. See  [[How_to_identify_items_to_trade|here]] for some additional tips, and remember: as a mission-runner, you already understand the needs of one part of the market! If your trading goes well you may find it eventually scales up to exceed your mission-running income.
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* [[Mining]] -- as mentioned above, if you have a mining ship handy you can mine out mission sites, or just mine to pass the time if you have to decline two missions in a row and you don't have any alternative agents.
A few suggestions for additional containers:
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* [[Planetary Interaction]] -- PI in highsec doesn't yield high profits, but it's a fairly steady income. You could see if there are any good planets on the route between your base and your local tradehub, which would let you set up profitable operations which you can run as part of your normal travelling.
* In you main base, having a separate container for high slot, medium slot, and low slot makes fitting new ships quick and easy.
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* [[Research]] and [[Manufacturing]] -- these are both potentially lucrative, but slots will probably be hard to come by in all but the quietist highsec systems, and using a POS requires a fairly significant ISK and thought investment.
* If you are doing planetary interaction, a container for only PI materials is handy.
 
* If you are doing research, a container for BPO's and a separate container for BPC's. A third for invention materials.
 
* If you are doing production, a container for minerals and salvage, and two containers for blueprints like research.
 
* If you run cosmos missions, a container for cosmos items is handy, as the items and BP's from the missions are unique.
 
* If you use a lot of drones or ammo, organizing into containers comes in handy when reloading and switching drones.
 
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Revision as of 11:07, 15 October 2010


This guide should help you if you feel that your assets get messed up and spread over dozens of systems so that it's hard to find the stuff you need. It explains how to choose and establish a 'base' for running regular missions efficiently in a particular system in highsec.

Setting up bases is also a way to get very familar with an area. Rather than moving around a lot and doing missions over the whole of high sec, you can stay in one location where you know all the agents and are familiar with the local tradehubs.


Choosing a Base

First you should identify an agent that suits your needs. You can use Eve Agents to do this. In most cases this will be an L4 agent, as most serious solo mission-running which justifies setting up a base is L4-based. If you don't have access to L4 agents, you can identify a good one and then grind up standing with his or her corporation until you can use him or her.

  • If you want to do fighting missions, use the best Command, Internal Security or Security agents you have acess to.
  • If you want to do transports as well, use Public Relations, Administration or Intelligence.
  • If you want mining missions use Manufacturing or Astrosurveying agents.
  • Remember that higher quality agents, based in lower-security systems, will offer greater rewards.
    • The security status of the agent's home system has more effect than the agent's quality.
  • If you are involved in PvP it can be useful to have access to a L4 locator agent.
  • If you plan to make money from loyalty points (and you should), think about the items offered in the LP store of the agent's corp.

Don't forget that you can ask fellow players for advice on choosing an agent -- if you're in E-Uni and can't get suggestions from the general channels, the Missions.E-UNI channel is a good place to ask.

Look at the system your chosen agent is in. Neighbouring lowsec systems are usually a problem, as you will have to turn down missions which send you there (or, alternatively, attempt them, and die horribly to the first semi-competent pirate who chances by).

Consider the trade hub local to the system you're looking at: ask around to find out which trade hub is the closest, and look at this wiki's list of hubs. The distance you have to travel between your mission base and your local hub is important because you'll likely be buying ammo and selling loot and salvage there. Remember that besides the big hubs (Jita, Rens &c) most regions have some secondary hub systems; if your chosen system is a popular mission-running system then it's likely that there will be some trade in missioning supplies there (possibly with a premium for convenience -- check prices).

The chances are that any particularly good agent or group of agents will already be frequented by other players, creating a mission hub. To tell if your system is a mission hub, visit it: look for missioning battleships on the directional scanner as you move around it, and sit on the undock of your agent's station to see if there's a regular procession of battleships and marauders entering and leaving.

There are advantages and disadvantages to being in a mission hub: it may be easier to find supplies without travelling, but any clustering of mission-runners will bring ninjas and possibly lag with them. The worst systems for ninjas are systems which are trade and mission hubs, like Dodixie and Rens. Conversely, these systems are also very convenient for shopping! You'll need to make a trade-off between convenient shopping and high-quality agents on one side, and levels of harassment from ninjas on the other.

If you have chosen a station, bookmark it. Crate a folder inside your "Places" tab and name it "Bases". Move the bookmark there. You can use the bookmark to quickly right-click and 'set destination' without having to search for the system. Once you have assets there you can also use the Assets window for quick destination-setting.

Equipment

To set up a base, you will need two things: ships and supplies. Once you have them, you may want to use containers to organise them.

Ships

There are ships you should have at every missioning base:

  • Shuttles to do some easy courier jobs as well as some mission blitzing (for example Recon 1&2). They are also a fast way to move between bases.
    • Fast frigates like the Minmatar Vigil are a viable alternative to shuttles, and can carry more and fit a few modules.
  • An industrial to gather your stuff and possibly do transport missions
  • A mission ship appropriate to the level of missions you're doing, usually this means a mission-fitted battleship of some kind.

You may also want:

  • A salvage/looting ship if you plan to loot and salvage.
    • A destroyer will do, though it may struggle with loot-heavy L4s
    • An agile battlecruiser (like the Hurricane) is ideal for L4s and, fitted with cargo expanders, can double as a small transport (in the 1,500 to 2,000m3 range).
  • A mining barge or mining cruiser if you want to do mining missions or mine at belts.

Supplies

You will also need:

  • Ammunition, unless you use lasers. If you use projectiles or missiles you will want different damage types for different NPC enemies.
  • Drones. You will want alternative flights for different NPC enemies.
  • A selection of different armor or shield hardeners, so that you can tailor your resistances to suit NPCs' damage types.

You may also want to consider a selection of tanking modules so that you can not only alter your resistances, but also increase or decrease your tank -- after a while you will learn which missions don't require your full tank, and then you will be able to dial your tank back and fit for more damage or more speed so as to complete them faster.

Containers

There are various containers in the game, the most interesting for bases are giant secure containers, freight containers, and station containers.

Giant Secure Containers

  • Good for short term station use.
  • They can be broken down or moved easily.
  • Giant secure containers are the smallest, and can hold 3900m3.
  • Can fit in standard industrials with ease, making moving them, goods and all, quite easy.

Freight Containers

  • Good for medium-long term station use, or for mining use.
  • Can hold 120000m3.
  • Can be broken down or moved without time requirements.
  • Can be moved by a freighter, will not fit in an industrial.

Station Containers

  • Good for permanent station use.
  • Cannot be moved to another station.
  • Once assembled and used, cannot be broken down, destroyed, sold, or otherwise removed for 30 days.
  • Station Container can hold 1Mm3, Station Vault can hold 10Mm3, Station Warehouse can hold 100Mm3.

For a basic missioning base you could use two containers: one named "Loot" and one named "Equipment".

  • The 'Equipment' container is for supplies for fitting your ships, as discussed above.
  • The 'Loot' container is for all the loot you gather, minerals, ore, and everything you wish to sort out later.

To set up the containers

  1. Assemble them.
  2. Once assembled, right click the containers and select 'rename' to give them a new names for easy identification.
  3. If you are using station containers, then right click them again, and select 'configure container' and select default state of items as 'unlocked'.

This gives you a basic layout, which keeps your valuable equipment safe from accidental sale or reprocessing.

Place everything you get from your missions into the loot container and sort it out when you have enough stuff there. Alternatively, it is possible to sort items straight into your industrial.

You can set up more complicated sets of containers -- having separate containers for high slot, medium slot, and low slot items makes fitting new ships quick and easy, for example, while containers can also help you organise research or manufacturing.

Transport

You will probably find it most efficient to steadily run missions in your base system, letting the loot and salvage accumulate for a while before sorting it into low-value items to be reprocessed and medium/high-value items to be sold. You can then take your items for sale to your local trade hub, sell them, and buy more ammo (which is usually cheaper in trade hubs than in your base system -- but do check prices) before returning to base.

You can sell loot and salvage direct to buy orders, which has the advantage that you get the money immediately and don't have to spend much time or attention. You can also set up sell orders for your loot and salvage in your local trade hub which you can then, with the right trading skills trained, adjust while missioning in your base system. Note that your base will need to be in the same region as your chosen trade hub to do this.

It doesn't take much effort to suicide-gank a T1 industrial, so try not to carry too much value in your hold in any one trip.

If you're also trading in LP store items which need normal T1 base items for their creation, you can also haul these base items home on your return trips from your trade hub. The suicide-gank caveat applies to trips taking your LP store items to market/contracts too: if you're going to transport a job lot of Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizers, consider using a fast frigate rather than an industrial.

Supplementary Income

Once you're based in one place there are a number of side-activities which you can branch into.

You could investigate

  • Trading -- this can grow organically from selling loot through sell orders. See here for some additional tips, and remember: as a mission-runner, you already understand the needs of one part of the market! If your trading goes well you may find it eventually scales up to exceed your mission-running income.
  • Mining -- as mentioned above, if you have a mining ship handy you can mine out mission sites, or just mine to pass the time if you have to decline two missions in a row and you don't have any alternative agents.
  • Planetary Interaction -- PI in highsec doesn't yield high profits, but it's a fairly steady income. You could see if there are any good planets on the route between your base and your local tradehub, which would let you set up profitable operations which you can run as part of your normal travelling.
  • Research and Manufacturing -- these are both potentially lucrative, but slots will probably be hard to come by in all but the quietist highsec systems, and using a POS requires a fairly significant ISK and thought investment.