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=Why is EVE University neutral?= | =Why is EVE University neutral?= | ||
| − | EVE University is first and foremost a teaching organisation. We aim to teach players, both old and new, about how to get along in New Eden. We have various [[campuses]] and [https://www.eveuniversity.org/events/ activities] to give people a taste of different areas of the game. The majority of our members will at some point leave EVE University and join another corporation. | + | EVE University is first and foremost a teaching organisation. We aim to teach players, both old and new, about how to get along in New Eden. We have various [[campuses]] and [https://www.eveuniversity.org/events/ activities] to give people a taste of different areas {{co|lime|and aspects}} of the game. The majority of our members will at some point leave EVE University and join another corporation. |
The reason we stay neutral is we want our alumni to be able to pursue whatever path they choose after they leave EVE University. What we don't want is for our actions, or those of our members, to prevent a person joining a corporation/alliance or doing what they want to do in the game. Through this policy we have a wide network of alumni in almost every large group in the game, which provides a range of opportunities for our members. | The reason we stay neutral is we want our alumni to be able to pursue whatever path they choose after they leave EVE University. What we don't want is for our actions, or those of our members, to prevent a person joining a corporation/alliance or doing what they want to do in the game. Through this policy we have a wide network of alumni in almost every large group in the game, which provides a range of opportunities for our members. | ||
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=How does EVE University as a corporation maintain its neutrality?= | =How does EVE University as a corporation maintain its neutrality?= | ||
| − | Maintaining neutrality in EVE Online is incredibly difficult! Anything that involves interacting with third parties has a possibility of affecting our neutrality so we have to be careful as a corporation not to invoke any bias. For example, we are keen to encourage [[Joining_the_Faculty#Becoming_a_Guest_Lecturer|guest lecturers]] to come and teach our members about EVE Online. But we are careful to avoid becoming too linked with any particular group or alliance, say by inviting only their members to come and talk for us. | + | Maintaining neutrality in EVE Online is incredibly difficult! Anything that involves interacting with third parties has a possibility of affecting our neutrality so we have to be careful as a corporation not to invoke any bias. For example, we are keen to encourage [[Joining_the_Faculty#Becoming_a_Guest_Lecturer|guest lecturers]] to come and teach our members about EVE Online{{co|lime|, to assist us in our mission of education}}. But we are careful to avoid becoming too linked with any particular group or alliance, say by inviting only their members to come and talk for us. |
| + | {{quote|Not sure "becoming too linked" is a good wording here, since it suggests us already having links with other groups. Maybe instead something more towards what was written in the recent related post on the forum, like for instance: | ||
| + | "However, and most importantly, we do not show preference towards any third party/particular group or alliance, say by inviting only ''their'' members to come and talk for us. By being careful to avoid this, it ultimately leaves our alumni with the most options open for corporations to join." or similar? Although I'm not sure whether or not that second sentence would belong under a '''How'' does...' heading.}} | ||
We also have a very open diplomatic policy, with an invitation for anyone to apply for a [http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGNjTTVIaVFPODk0Uy1HVHdRZjhzR0E6MQ non-aggression pact]. Sometimes there is a good reason we cannot grant this, but everyone is able to request this, and every request will be judged fairly on its merits, regardless of the political affiliation of the group making the request. | We also have a very open diplomatic policy, with an invitation for anyone to apply for a [http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dGNjTTVIaVFPODk0Uy1HVHdRZjhzR0E6MQ non-aggression pact]. Sometimes there is a good reason we cannot grant this, but everyone is able to request this, and every request will be judged fairly on its merits, regardless of the political affiliation of the group making the request. | ||
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=What do EVE University members need to do to maintain our neutrality?= | =What do EVE University members need to do to maintain our neutrality?= | ||
| − | In order to maintain neutrality we require our members to limit their gameplay in some ways. While we understand this can | + | In order to maintain neutrality we require our members to limit their gameplay in some ways. While we understand this can {{co|lime|sometimes}} be frustrating on a personal level, we strongly believe that it is in the best interests of the corporation. |
| − | The following things are things that would break our neutral position and are prohibited: | + | The following things are things that would ''break our neutral position'' and are '''prohibited''': |
* Violating our [[rules of engagement]] by, for example, taking aggressive action against a player or group which has a non-aggression pact with EVE University | * Violating our [[rules of engagement]] by, for example, taking aggressive action against a player or group which has a non-aggression pact with EVE University | ||
* Indirectly violating our rules of engagement by, for example, selling a [[Killrights|killright]] against a player with a non-aggression pact with EVE University, to allow another person to take aggressive action against them | * Indirectly violating our rules of engagement by, for example, selling a [[Killrights|killright]] against a player with a non-aggression pact with EVE University, to allow another person to take aggressive action against them | ||
| − | * Taking aggressive action against any player owned structures (being a citadel, POS, POCO or any other permanently placed structure owned by a player or a player organisation). The only time our members are permitted to take aggressive action against a player owned structure is with permission from either a [[Director]], a [[Diplomacy_Department|Diplomat]] or the [[Campuses|Campus Manager]] in the area of space where the structure is placed | + | * Taking aggressive action against any player owned structures (being a [[Citadels|citadel]], [[POS]], [[POCO]] or any other permanently placed structure owned by a player or a player organisation). The only time our members are permitted to take aggressive action against a player owned structure is with permission from either a [[Director]], a [[Diplomacy_Department|Diplomat]] or the [[Campuses|Campus Manager]] in the area of space where the structure is placed |
| − | * Using an entosis link against a player owned structure without permission from a Director, a Diplomat or the Campus Manager in the area of space where the structure is placed | + | {{quote|Added some links for the different types of structures, as this would otherwise be very confusing to new members, I think. However, given recent recurring discussions regarding 'allowances' to attack structures, and how to obtain it, there might be a need for a more all-encompassing and less-detailed description, that may be easier for players (especially new(er) ones) to relate to and understand?}} |
| + | * Using an [[Entosis Link|entosis link]] against a player owned structure without permission from a Director, a Diplomat or the Campus Manager in the area of space where the structure is placed | ||
* Using EVE University membership, communication channels or resources to benefit another group. For example, by using their status as an EVE University member to spy on another group and maintain an innocent appearance | * Using EVE University membership, communication channels or resources to benefit another group. For example, by using their status as an EVE University member to spy on another group and maintain an innocent appearance | ||
* Using an alt which is clearly linked to EVE University or a character in EVE University to bypass any of EVE University's [[rules]], including those on neutrality | * Using an alt which is clearly linked to EVE University or a character in EVE University to bypass any of EVE University's [[rules]], including those on neutrality | ||
This is not a definitive list of items that may threaten our neutrality, but it is intended to give some guidance on what is allowed and what is not. If you have any questions, please speak to a [[Director]], an [[Orientation_Department|Orientation Officer]] or a [[Student Advocate]]. | This is not a definitive list of items that may threaten our neutrality, but it is intended to give some guidance on what is allowed and what is not. If you have any questions, please speak to a [[Director]], an [[Orientation_Department|Orientation Officer]] or a [[Student Advocate]]. | ||
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| + | {{quote|Thinking about it some more, I'm actually not sure if a bullet point list like the above is the best way to go about describing this. As you said; you want this to be "clear as a pane of glass to ''anyone''", and it feels like this last section is the most important one to get absolutely right, so I'm thinking: perhaps it needs to be more verbose/descriptive? In which case bullet points is not the best format - I'm thinking along the lines of sub-sections instead; right off the bat here I can see three topics (RoE, Structures, Representation), which can be filled out a bit more in clear text. | ||
| + | This is just a first draft though, and I will keep thinking about it, but it rather feels that... brevity is the enemy of clarity, if you get my meaning, when seeking to avoid any and all confusion, misinterpretation and "what if's" etc. | ||
| + | If you want me to expand on this a bit more, please just ask. ^^}} | ||
Revision as of 16:36, 9 July 2019
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This page is specific to EVE University. Other corporations or groups in the game may operate differently. For a summary of EVE University's rules and code of conduct, see EVE University Rules. |
EVE University is a 'neutral' corporation. This means we avoid getting involved in the politics of EVE Online. This page sets out in more detail the reason for our neutrality and how it works in practice, both as a guide for members and an explanation for non-members.
Why is EVE University neutral?
EVE University is first and foremost a teaching organisation. We aim to teach players, both old and new, about how to get along in New Eden. We have various campuses and activities to give people a taste of different areas and aspects of the game. The majority of our members will at some point leave EVE University and join another corporation.
The reason we stay neutral is we want our alumni to be able to pursue whatever path they choose after they leave EVE University. What we don't want is for our actions, or those of our members, to prevent a person joining a corporation/alliance or doing what they want to do in the game. Through this policy we have a wide network of alumni in almost every large group in the game, which provides a range of opportunities for our members.
How does EVE University as a corporation maintain its neutrality?
Maintaining neutrality in EVE Online is incredibly difficult! Anything that involves interacting with third parties has a possibility of affecting our neutrality so we have to be careful as a corporation not to invoke any bias. For example, we are keen to encourage guest lecturers to come and teach our members about EVE Online, to assist us in our mission of education. But we are careful to avoid becoming too linked with any particular group or alliance, say by inviting only their members to come and talk for us.
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Not sure "becoming too linked" is a good wording here, since it suggests us already having links with other groups. Maybe instead something more towards what was written in the recent related post on the forum, like for instance: "However, and most importantly, we do not show preference towards any third party/particular group or alliance, say by inviting only their members to come and talk for us. By being careful to avoid this, it ultimately leaves our alumni with the most options open for corporations to join." or similar? Although I'm not sure whether or not that second sentence would belong under a 'How does...' heading. |
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We also have a very open diplomatic policy, with an invitation for anyone to apply for a non-aggression pact. Sometimes there is a good reason we cannot grant this, but everyone is able to request this, and every request will be judged fairly on its merits, regardless of the political affiliation of the group making the request.
What do EVE University members need to do to maintain our neutrality?
In order to maintain neutrality we require our members to limit their gameplay in some ways. While we understand this can sometimes be frustrating on a personal level, we strongly believe that it is in the best interests of the corporation.
The following things are things that would break our neutral position and are prohibited:
- Violating our rules of engagement by, for example, taking aggressive action against a player or group which has a non-aggression pact with EVE University
- Indirectly violating our rules of engagement by, for example, selling a killright against a player with a non-aggression pact with EVE University, to allow another person to take aggressive action against them
- Taking aggressive action against any player owned structures (being a citadel, POS, POCO or any other permanently placed structure owned by a player or a player organisation). The only time our members are permitted to take aggressive action against a player owned structure is with permission from either a Director, a Diplomat or the Campus Manager in the area of space where the structure is placed
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Added some links for the different types of structures, as this would otherwise be very confusing to new members, I think. However, given recent recurring discussions regarding 'allowances' to attack structures, and how to obtain it, there might be a need for a more all-encompassing and less-detailed description, that may be easier for players (especially new(er) ones) to relate to and understand? |
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- Using an entosis link against a player owned structure without permission from a Director, a Diplomat or the Campus Manager in the area of space where the structure is placed
- Using EVE University membership, communication channels or resources to benefit another group. For example, by using their status as an EVE University member to spy on another group and maintain an innocent appearance
- Using an alt which is clearly linked to EVE University or a character in EVE University to bypass any of EVE University's rules, including those on neutrality
This is not a definitive list of items that may threaten our neutrality, but it is intended to give some guidance on what is allowed and what is not. If you have any questions, please speak to a Director, an Orientation Officer or a Student Advocate.
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Thinking about it some more, I'm actually not sure if a bullet point list like the above is the best way to go about describing this. As you said; you want this to be "clear as a pane of glass to anyone", and it feels like this last section is the most important one to get absolutely right, so I'm thinking: perhaps it needs to be more verbose/descriptive? In which case bullet points is not the best format - I'm thinking along the lines of sub-sections instead; right off the bat here I can see three topics (RoE, Structures, Representation), which can be filled out a bit more in clear text. This is just a first draft though, and I will keep thinking about it, but it rather feels that... brevity is the enemy of clarity, if you get my meaning, when seeking to avoid any and all confusion, misinterpretation and "what if's" etc. If you want me to expand on this a bit more, please just ask. ^^ |
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