Talk:Homefront operation

Payout curve

Payout curve isn't up to date. 5 player homefront pays 15.486.410 ISK if 5 players are running the side. I have no information on the payout for other configurations. --Unsigned comment by Pandora Rupture 11:18, 24 June 2024‎ (UTC)

• I know. I am trying to get data; I have data for 3/5, 4/5 and 5/5, have guesses about 1/5 and 2/5, but no data about 6/5... I want to wait a bit before publishing. For now the value for 5 player is in text above picture. Mednik Breau (talk) 18:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Payout curve has been updated for both 3 and 5 player homefronts (excluding Abyssal Artifact Recovery). (Thank you to all you people who contributed your time to get data while getting paid less than you deserve) --Boniface Vachon (talk) 23:05, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

Move Suggestion: Homefront operation -> Homefront Operations

The new page name follows CCP's naming of the content (for example: https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/9188830559004-Homefront-Operations). Plural makes sense to me, new capitalization makes sense to me. --Boniface Vachon (talk) 23:09, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

I see the added benefit to changing to the new page, is there a way to redirect traffic automatically to those who still land on the current homefront page? It has been linked in alot of place, stored as bookmarks perhaps. Ellis Ofsol (talk) 07:35, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

As mentioned in another reply, this move is not a good idea. But addressing your question about redirecting: that is standard behavior on the wiki. -- Evon R'all (talk) 07:59, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

No, not a good idea.

This is a wiki and not a regular website. So reason for not moving is: Wiki page titles should be singular, sentence case with a few exceptions. The Uni wiki is largely following wikipedia's MoS and the Article title format section on Article titles does apply. Why using singular, sentence case? the page title is also used to wiki link to a page. So the title must be usable mid sentence. Links are case sensitive with the exception of the first char.

Example: xxx is a homefront operation. coded as xxx is a [[homefront operation]]

For plural linking the wiki has the link end trick. Tacking chars to the closing ]] of a link lets them be part of the link description.

Example: Homefront operations are PvE. coded as [[Homefront operation]]s are PvE.

(UniWiki:Manual of Style * Wikipedia:Manual of Style) -- Evon R'all (talk) 07:55, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

What does this mean for pages like Missions? Wormholes? Incursions? Planetary Industry?

--Boniface Vachon (talk) 14:33, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Reading a little more into the Manual of Style, doesn't this matter fall under the following from UniWiki:Manual of Style/Capital letters "The UniWiki relies on in-game information to determine what is a proper name; words and phrases that are consistently capitalized in-game are treated as proper names and capitalized on the UniWiki."

Homefront Operations is capitalized in multiple locations in-game, the only time both words are not capitalized that I can find is in the summary on the Homefront Operations tab of the Opportunities window, where the word is changed "Homefront operational sites that require mixed professions [...]" Elsewhere in Opportunities and the Agency, it is capitalized.

In defense of the existing pages I linked, this piece of content appears to me like it is treated the same way as the other fundamental content pillars by the game, proper names that have been capitalized as such in game and consequently on the wiki (prominently on the front page even). My move suggestion came from these precedents.

--Boniface Vachon (talk) 23:15, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

The Uniwiki exists for quite a while now and has been edited by experienced and less experienced editors. That has led to the MoS not always being strictly adhered to. There even has been some renaming (moving) to plural in the past. It has been decided then to leave as is. The MoS is not law but a guideline, preferred to be used, but still a guideline.

As for using the in-game capitalization: analyze how you think the name will be mostly linked to. If you think that will be in sentence case, then keep the title in sentence case. Now keep in mind I am not a native English speaker, so my example might be wrong.

Example: That is a capital ship. Then the battleship title should be Capital ship. Remember, the first char is not case sensitive, so wiki links to "Capital ship" and "capital ship" both work. And when "capital ships" is needed the link-end trick can be applied ([[capital ship]]s gives capital ships. Now this is a far from perfect example because capital ship is actually a redirect to capital ships so [[capital ships]] does also work.

For names of things like planets CCP's spelling and capitalization is followed. For more general terms sentence case should be used.

When the plural and singular form both exist it usually is left as is. But the reason for using singular whenever possible is because of the existence of the link-end trick, there is no need for a plural redirect then. There exist plurals which can not be done this way (e.g. university - universities) so those might require a plural redirect.

The guideline to use sentence case in page title is because of the use as wiki link so page titles should be whenever possible in the form they would be used in a sentence.

So unfortunately no hard rules. But definitely no need to rename from singular to plural. -- Evon R'all (talk) 10:30, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Okay --Boniface Vachon (talk) 12:59, 21 August 2025 (UTC)