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Manipulated Buy Orders: Margin Trading scam no longer possible due to removal of the skill
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Complete removal of margin trading scam (finally. CCP well overdue removing that skill imho)
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====How it works====
====How it works====
You'd really like to have more money, so you send them some money. They keep it, send you nothing, and block you. Some scammers may actually double your ISK as long as the amount is small to drum up business and try to get you to send more, but rest assured when you send a large enough amount, they'll keep it. Sometimes they'll have alts or buddies chat in local indicating they've won and it's legit.
You'd really like to have more money, so you send them some money. They keep it, send you nothing, and block you. Some scammers may actually double your ISK as long as the amount is small to drum up business and try to get you to send more, but rest assured when you send a large enough amount, they'll keep it. Sometimes they'll have alts or buddies chat in local indicating they've won and it's legit.
====What you see====
The scammer announces in a chat channel (usually local) that a player must have been drunk when they put up their buy order and invites you to check it out with a link to the item being sold. They lament the fact that they can't afford to fill the buy order. Following the link, players will see a buy order offering a great deal more than the sell price of the item. If the player can act fast and deliver the items in the order before anyone else, they stand to multiply their ISK invested.
====How it works====
All numbers are examples.
#The scammer buys up all of an uncommon item in a region, say for 1B ISK each.
#They make a bunch of sale orders to sell them for around 2B ISK each.
#They put up a few buy orders for 500M ISK each.
#They put up a margin drunken buy order offering 5B ISK each with a minimum number, say 5.
#They transfer most of the money away from their drunken buy alt.
This is how they hope the victim will respond:
#The victim sees the opportunity to buy items for 2B ISK and immediately sell them for 5B ISK each.
# Scam 1: They buy enough items at 2B ISK to fulfill the buy order. This is above market value and the scammer has already made money.
#The victim submits a sell order for the 5 items. However, the buy order was on margin, and the drunken buyer does not have the cash to pay for it, so it fails.
#Scam 2: The sale will then revert to the next best buy order, which is for 500M each. 500M kinda looks like 5B if you're in a hurry, so if the victim clicks OK, the scammer buys the items at below market value.
====How to recognize the scam====
*Someone using chat to offer strangers the opportunity to make a lot of money.
*Look for buy orders with minimum volumes. Multiple sell orders can fill a single buy order, so there's no good reason for them.
*The buy order is for a low-volume item that you're not familiar with.
*If EVE-Central has any others on record, they're far away and way cheaper.
This is one of the trickiest scams, since so far as you can tell from the market interface it's all genuine - there's no sure way to tell that a listed buy order is fake. If the scammer has been lazy then inspection of the sell orders can tip you off that they were all placed by the same person, such as identical expiration dates, but a decent scammer will add some jitter to make it look real. Your best defence is not to trade expensive items that you're not familiar with the value of. If you're still tempted to trade an unfamiliar item then look it up on Eve Central to see what the price is in other regions.


==Contract Scams==
==Contract Scams==