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=Armor Fleet=
 
==General description==
 
  
The Close Range Armor fleet is a setup that revolves around armor tanking ships that are supported by armor Logistic ships. As armor ships tend to be slow, this fleet usually excels at close range brawling situations. It is good for static fights at certain points of interest (e.g. station, gate, cap ship). Another advantage of the armor fleet is that every armor ship usually has some room to fit tackle or ewar in the medium slots.  
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= Armor Fleet =
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== General description ==
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The Close Range Armor fleet is a setup that revolves around armor tanking ships that are supported by armor Logistic ships. As armor ships tend to be slow, this fleet usually excels at close range brawling situations. It is good for static fights at certain points of interest (e.g. station, gate, cap ship). Another advantage of the armor fleet is that every armor ship usually has some room to fit tackle or ewar in the medium slots.
  
 
As a slow close range fleet, it is vulnerable to kiting/sniping fleets that manage to stay out of the engagement range of the armor fleet and use their speed to keep it that way. To counter that, one can bring a sniper add-on squad that (depending on the numbers) will most likely not be able to destroy enemy ships but might be able to scare them away.
 
As a slow close range fleet, it is vulnerable to kiting/sniping fleets that manage to stay out of the engagement range of the armor fleet and use their speed to keep it that way. To counter that, one can bring a sniper add-on squad that (depending on the numbers) will most likely not be able to destroy enemy ships but might be able to scare them away.
  
==Pros and Cons==
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== Pros and Cons ==
  
===Advantages:===
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=== Advantages: ===
 
Very high staying power on the field due to the Logis
 
Very high staying power on the field due to the Logis
 
As armor fleets tend to be slow and static, they are a bit easier to FC than kiting shield fleets where the FC and the pilots also have to check for their ranges, align points and such
 
As armor fleets tend to be slow and static, they are a bit easier to FC than kiting shield fleets where the FC and the pilots also have to check for their ranges, align points and such
 
Close Range setups deal a lot of damage at their optimal
 
Close Range setups deal a lot of damage at their optimal
 
   
 
   
===Disadvantages:===
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=== Disadvantages: ===
 
T2 Logis are quite an investment so this fleet is not cheap
 
T2 Logis are quite an investment so this fleet is not cheap
 
Close range fleets are easily countered by a good kiting/sniping fleet
 
Close range fleets are easily countered by a good kiting/sniping fleet
 
Logis are vulnerable to being alpha’ed, to ECM/RSD and to neuts
 
Logis are vulnerable to being alpha’ed, to ECM/RSD and to neuts
 
   
 
   
==Command structure==
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== Command structure ==
  
 
   
 
   
=== Full command structure with CS and links===
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=== Full command structure with CS and links ===
 
FC – Skirmish warfare links (they benefit everyone’s sig and prop mod cap)
 
FC – Skirmish warfare links (they benefit everyone’s sig and prop mod cap)
 
WC main body and Logi body – Armor warfare links
 
WC main body and Logi body – Armor warfare links
 
SC – just leadership V, bring a boosting BC for an Ewar squad if you like
 
SC – just leadership V, bring a boosting BC for an Ewar squad if you like
 
   
 
   
===Small gang command structure with BCs and links===
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=== Small gang command structure with BCs and links ===
 
FC – A single evasive maneuvers link
 
FC – A single evasive maneuvers link
 
WC main body and Logistics – Passive defense and Rapid Repair warfare link
 
WC main body and Logistics – Passive defense and Rapid Repair warfare link
 
SC Logistics – the other armor warfare link (don’t go overboard on that one)
 
SC Logistics – the other armor warfare link (don’t go overboard on that one)
 
   
 
   
==Tactics==
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== Tactics ==
  
 
The close range fleet setup is quite easy to implement. Usually you will get your main body into the fight as close as possible (either by being punted or by warping to your tacklers which you sent in first). Usually the Logistic and Ewar body will warp in on your main body anchor at a bit closer than their engagement range (e.g. at 50). The Logistics and Ewar body will then usually anchor on the Logistics anchor and try to stay at that range to mitigate damage.
 
The close range fleet setup is quite easy to implement. Usually you will get your main body into the fight as close as possible (either by being punted or by warping to your tacklers which you sent in first). Usually the Logistic and Ewar body will warp in on your main body anchor at a bit closer than their engagement range (e.g. at 50). The Logistics and Ewar body will then usually anchor on the Logistics anchor and try to stay at that range to mitigate damage.
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=Fits=
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= Fits =
  
== Main body==
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== Main body ==
  
 
The main body of the Close Range Armor fleet consists of heavily armor tanked ships BC and BS sized ships
 
The main body of the Close Range Armor fleet consists of heavily armor tanked ships BC and BS sized ships
  
  
===Amarr===
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== Logistics ==
{{Fittings
 
|name=Harbinger, Close Range Armor dps
 
|high=Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M<br>
 
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M<br>
 
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M<br>
 
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M<br>
 
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M<br>
 
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M<br>
 
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
 
|mid=50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I<br>
 
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator<br>
 
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Heat Sink II<br>
 
Heat Sink II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Hornet EC-300 x5<br>
 
Warrior II x5
 
|rigs=Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*Fits with Electronics V.
 
*Switch an EANM II for an ANP II if you lack CPU.
 
*Optional fit a Medium Neut in Highs for one ANP II instead of an EANM II (when you hunt capital ships).
 
}}
 
  
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As a Guardian pilot you have to decide between good resists and a high rep amount or a 1600 plate (or you throw ridiculous amounts of money at your ship and get it all). I would suggest to bring the bigger plate in bigger fleets. Bigger fleets usually mean bigger fleets to engage. This increases the risk of being alpha’ed, which the 1600 plate should counter a bit. Note, that the med repper has not the full 70km range of the large.
  
{{Fittings
 
|name=Prophecy, Armor Command
 
|high=125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair II<br>
 
Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense II
 
|mid=Command Processor I<br>
 
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Armor Explosive Hardener II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II<br>
 
Co-Processor II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Hornet EC-300 x5
 
|rigs=Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*Drop guns if you have to, you are there to boost, not to shoot.
 
*Talk to your boosting colleagues who is bringing which booster.
 
*If you have a fleet mate that can also bring 2 boosters, one of you can bring some other booster or drop it (in case of the latter, you might want to change the rest of the fit).
 
*When you are the only booster, those two links are the way to go, even a lvl. 4 Guardian is still cap stable with those.
 
}}
 
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Armageddon, Uni Armor fleet
 
|high=Medium Nosferatu II<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency L
 
|mid=Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800<br>
 
500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Warp Scrambler II
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II<br>
 
Heat Sink II<br>
 
Heat Sink II<br>
 
Tracking Enhancer II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Ogre II x5
 
|rigs=Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*It has no ECCM as it is intended for the use in the Logi armor fleet. Enemy ECM ships with amarr jammers have either something better to jam (your Guardians) or you are dead soon anyway.
 
*It has no neut on it, as Amarr ships have a hard time on cap anyway.
 
*Don’t expect to be able to use your medium nos on something, be glad when you can though, it will save cap charges.
 
*You can just drop the med nos to switch an ANP II for an EANM II.
 
*You can also fly an Abaddon but it is much more expensive and usually has cap issues that need to be worked around.
 
}}
 
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Apocalypse, anti-med-sniper
 
|high=Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L<br>
 
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
 
|mid=Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script<br>
 
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script<br>
 
Sensor Booster II<br>
 
500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
Heat Sink II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II<br>
 
Heat Sink II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Hammerhead II x5<br>
 
Hornet EC-300 x5
 
|rigs=Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*This is a bit of a strange fit. It is intended to counter medium snipers that shoot around 70km (Drakes). It does 650 dps at 80+16 with scorch and has a decent but not spectacular tank.
 
}}
 
 
===Caldari===
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Ferox, Armor
 
|high=Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
 
|mid=Stasis Webifier II<br>
 
Warp Scrambler II<br>
 
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Stasis Webifier II<br>
 
Target Painter II
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Hornet EC-300 x5
 
|rigs=Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*In an armor gang, Caldari ships will be primaried, try to prepare or that.
 
*As dps is not the biggest strength with this fit anyway, it also brings a neut.
 
*If you don’t have AWU IV you fit an ACR instead of one trimark (you can then switch the meta 4 neut to T2).
 
}}
 
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Scorpion, Armor
 
|high=Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile<br>
 
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile<br>
 
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile<br>
 
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Cruise Missile<br>
 
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I<br>
 
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
 
|mid=500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I<br>
 
Enfeebling Phase Inversion ECM I<br>
 
'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I<br>
 
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM<br>
 
BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM<br>
 
'Umbra' White Noise ECM<br>
 
'Umbra' White Noise ECM
 
|low=Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Warden II x3
 
|rigs=Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*You can bring a sensor booster for the extra range if you want to jam in falloff.
 
*Bring lots of extra ECM to refit on the run according to enemy fleet comp.
 
*Meta 4 jammers are easier to fit, use less cap and are sometimes cheaper than the T2.
 
*can also fit Torpedo Launchers but need to downgrade a heavy neut for a medium neut.
 
}}
 
 
===Gallente===
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Brutix, Armor Fleet
 
|high=Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M<br>
 
Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
 
|mid=50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Warp Scrambler II<br>
 
Stasis Webifier II<br>
 
Stasis Webifier II
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Vespa EC-600 x5
 
|rigs=Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*The Brutix is usually considered a glass cannon, so it is likely to be high on any primary list. That’s why this fits emphasis on a decent tank and heavy tackle - This fits with AWU V.
 
*Less AWU need to downgrade the guns.
 
}}
 
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Myrmidon, double warfare boost
 
|high=Armored Warfare Link - Rapid Repair II<br>
 
Armored Warfare Link - Passive Defense II<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
[empty high slot]
 
|mid=Command Processor I<br>
 
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I<br>
 
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I<br>
 
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Armor Explosive Hardener II<br>
 
Co-Processor II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Ogre II x2<br>
 
Hammerhead II x2<br>
 
Hobgoblin II x1<br>
 
Warrior II x5<br>
 
Vespa EC-600 x5
 
|rigs=Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*Drop guns if you have to, you are there to boost, not to shoot.
 
*Talk to your boosting colleagues who is bringing which booster.
 
*If you have a fleet mate that can also bring 2 boosters, one of you can bring some other booster or drop it (in case of the latter, you might want to change the rest of the fit).
 
*When you are the only booster, those two links are the way to go, even a lvl. 4 Guardian is still cap stable with those.
 
}}
 
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Megathron, Armor Fleet
 
|high=Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
 
|mid=Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I<br>
 
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I<br>
 
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800<br>
 
500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II<br>
 
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Ogre II x5
 
|rigs=Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*Switch to T2 tackle if you have the CPU to do so.
 
}}
 
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Dominix, Armor Fleet
 
|high=Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L<br>
 
Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L
 
|mid=500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Warp Scrambler II<br>
 
Stasis Webifier II<br>
 
Stasis Webifier II<br>
 
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Drone Damage Amplifier II<br>
 
Drone Damage Amplifier II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Ogre II x5<br>
 
Warrior II x5<br>
 
Vespa EC-600 x5<br>
 
Hornet EC-300 x5<br>
 
Hammerhead II x5<br>
 
Valkyrie II x5<br>
 
Hobgoblin II x5
 
|rigs=Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
}}
 
 
===Minmatar===
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Hurricane, Armor Fleet
 
|high=220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M<br>
 
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M<br>
 
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M<br>
 
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M<br>
 
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M<br>
 
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M<br>
 
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I<br>
 
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
 
|mid=50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Warp Scrambler II<br>
 
Stasis Webifier II<br>
 
Stasis Webifier II
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Gyrostabilizer II<br>
 
Gyrostabilizer II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Vespa EC-600 x1<br>
 
Hornet EC-300 x4
 
|rigs=Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*Bring damage drones if you can’t field ECM drones.
 
}}{{Fittings
 
|name=Hurricane, Armor Fleet Command
 
|high=Skirmish Warfare Link - Evasive Maneuvers II<br>
 
Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers II<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S<br>
 
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
 
|mid=Command Processor I<br>
 
50MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I<br>
 
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Armor Explosive Hardener II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Vespa EC-600 x1<br>
 
Hornet EC-300 x4
 
|rigs=Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*Drop guns if you have to.
 
}}
 
 
 
{{Fittings
 
|name=Typhoon, Armor Fleet Torps
 
|high=Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo<br>
 
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo<br>
 
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo<br>
 
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo<br>
 
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo<br>
 
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I<br>
 
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I<br>
 
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
 
|mid=500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I<br>
 
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I<br>
 
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Ballistic Control System II<br>
 
Ballistic Control System II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Ogre II x5<br>
 
Hornet EC-300 x5<br>
 
Warrior II x5
 
|rigs=Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*The Phoon, pretty much a billion fits are possible. This is one with Torps and Neuts. Fit your Phoon in any way you like.
 
*If you lack CPU, you can downgrade the heavy neut to a medium one.
 
}}{{Fittings
 
|name=Typhoon, Armor Fleet Guns
 
|high=800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L<br>
 
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L<br>
 
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L<br>
 
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L<br>
 
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L<br>
 
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I<br>
 
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I<br>
 
Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
 
|mid=500MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive<br>
 
Warp Scrambler II<br>
 
Stasis Webifier II<br>
 
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II<br>
 
Gyrostabilizer II<br>
 
Gyrostabilizer II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Ogre II x5<br>
 
Hornet EC-300 x5<br>
 
Warrior II x5
 
|rigs=Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
 
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
}}
 
 
== Logistics==
 
 
As a Guardian pilot you have to decide between good resists and a high rep amount or a 1600 plate (or you throw ridiculous amounts of money at your ship and get it all). I would suggest to bring the bigger plate in bigger fleets. Bigger fleets usually mean bigger fleets to engage. This increases the risk of being alpha’ed, which the 1600 plate should counter a bit. Note, that the med repper has not the full 70km range of the large.
 
  
  
{{Fittings
 
|name=Guardian, Armor 800 4L
 
|high=Large 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction<br>
 
Large 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction<br>
 
Large 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction<br>
 
Large 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction<br>
 
Large 'Regard' Power Projector<br>
 
Large 'Regard' Power Projector
 
|mid=Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I<br>
 
10MN Afterburner II
 
|low=800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Damage Control II<br>
 
Armor Thermic Hardener II<br>
 
Armor EM Hardener II<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5
 
|rigs=Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I<br>
 
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*If your fitting skills allow it, replace meta 4 reppers with T2 ones.
 
*Downgrade T2 reppers to meta 4 if you have to.
 
*If some of your Logi group have Logi V, you can bring a 1/5 set up.
 
*When in doubt bring 2/4 as this fits better with the rest of the Logis.
 
}}{{Fittings
 
|name=Guardian, Armor 1600 3L1M
 
|high=Large 'Regard' Power Projector<br>
 
Large 'Regard' Power Projector<br>
 
Medium 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction<br>
 
Large 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction<br>
 
Large 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction<br>
 
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
 
|mid=Conjunctive Radar ECCM Scanning Array I<br>
 
10MN Afterburner II
 
|low=1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Damage Control II<br>
 
Armor Thermic Hardener II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Adaptive Nano Plating II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x5
 
|rigs=Medium Ancillary Current Router I<br>
 
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*If your fitting skills allow it, replace meta 4 reppers with T2 ones.
 
*Downgrade T2 reppers to meta 4 if you have to.
 
*This fit reps less than the one with the 800 plate but it has a bigger buffer tank.
 
*Some faction and deadspace mods can work wonder on this fit (C-type ANP is still quite cheap so are med deadspace reppers).
 
*If some of your Logi group have Logi V, you can bring a 1/5 set up. When in doubt bring 2/4 as this fits better with the rest of the Logis.
 
}}
 
  
  
  
{{Fittings
 
|name=Oneiros, 3L1M
 
|high=Medium 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction<br>
 
Large Remote Armor Repair System II<br>
 
Large Remote Armor Repair System II<br>
 
Large Remote Armor Repair System II
 
|mid=10MN Afterburner II<br>
 
Conjunctive Magnetometric ECCM Scanning Array I<br>
 
Cap Recharger II<br>
 
Cap Recharger II
 
|low=Damage Control II<br>
 
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II<br>
 
Armor Explosive Hardener II
 
|charges=
 
|drones=Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x5
 
|rigs=Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I<br>
 
Medium Remote Repair Augmentor I
 
|recommended1=
 
|recommended2=
 
|recommended3=
 
|notes=
 
*Deadspace medium reppers are quite cheap and add a nice bonus.
 
*With very good skills, you can replace an EANM II for a RCU II and then fit 4 large solace reppers (that will gimp your tank though).
 
}}
 
  
==Support==
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== Support ==
  
With a fleet like this, you rely heavily on your tackle. Your engagement range ends at large scorch range at about 50km (unless you bring a sniper wing).  
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With a fleet like this, you rely heavily on your tackle. Your engagement range ends at large scorch range at about 50km (unless you bring a sniper wing).
  
 
A great addition to this fleet are tackle recons. With the right boosts (CS/T3) or faction tackle you can point and web out to 70km (combined up to 100km). The main disadvantage of the tackle recons are their thin tank. Make sure to stay as much out of the enemy engagement range as possible and inside the range of your Logistic ships. Check out the armor version of the recons at the top of this document.
 
A great addition to this fleet are tackle recons. With the right boosts (CS/T3) or faction tackle you can point and web out to 70km (combined up to 100km). The main disadvantage of the tackle recons are their thin tank. Make sure to stay as much out of the enemy engagement range as possible and inside the range of your Logistic ships. Check out the armor version of the recons at the top of this document.
  
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Armor Fleet

General description

The Close Range Armor fleet is a setup that revolves around armor tanking ships that are supported by armor Logistic ships. As armor ships tend to be slow, this fleet usually excels at close range brawling situations. It is good for static fights at certain points of interest (e.g. station, gate, cap ship). Another advantage of the armor fleet is that every armor ship usually has some room to fit tackle or ewar in the medium slots.

As a slow close range fleet, it is vulnerable to kiting/sniping fleets that manage to stay out of the engagement range of the armor fleet and use their speed to keep it that way. To counter that, one can bring a sniper add-on squad that (depending on the numbers) will most likely not be able to destroy enemy ships but might be able to scare them away.

Pros and Cons

Advantages:

Very high staying power on the field due to the Logis As armor fleets tend to be slow and static, they are a bit easier to FC than kiting shield fleets where the FC and the pilots also have to check for their ranges, align points and such Close Range setups deal a lot of damage at their optimal

Disadvantages:

T2 Logis are quite an investment so this fleet is not cheap Close range fleets are easily countered by a good kiting/sniping fleet Logis are vulnerable to being alpha’ed, to ECM/RSD and to neuts

Command structure

Full command structure with CS and links

FC – Skirmish warfare links (they benefit everyone’s sig and prop mod cap) WC main body and Logi body – Armor warfare links SC – just leadership V, bring a boosting BC for an Ewar squad if you like

Small gang command structure with BCs and links

FC – A single evasive maneuvers link WC main body and Logistics – Passive defense and Rapid Repair warfare link SC Logistics – the other armor warfare link (don’t go overboard on that one)

Tactics

The close range fleet setup is quite easy to implement. Usually you will get your main body into the fight as close as possible (either by being punted or by warping to your tacklers which you sent in first). Usually the Logistic and Ewar body will warp in on your main body anchor at a bit closer than their engagement range (e.g. at 50). The Logistics and Ewar body will then usually anchor on the Logistics anchor and try to stay at that range to mitigate damage. In certain situations it can make sense to keep the Logistics body right at 0 on the target as well. This is the case if you can better protect your Logistics body by being close (e.g. when they can deaggress and jump a gate or dock at a station or when there is the risk of getting probed down and then being engaged out of the close range of the main body).


Fits

Main body

The main body of the Close Range Armor fleet consists of heavily armor tanked ships BC and BS sized ships


Logistics

As a Guardian pilot you have to decide between good resists and a high rep amount or a 1600 plate (or you throw ridiculous amounts of money at your ship and get it all). I would suggest to bring the bigger plate in bigger fleets. Bigger fleets usually mean bigger fleets to engage. This increases the risk of being alpha’ed, which the 1600 plate should counter a bit. Note, that the med repper has not the full 70km range of the large.




Support

With a fleet like this, you rely heavily on your tackle. Your engagement range ends at large scorch range at about 50km (unless you bring a sniper wing).

A great addition to this fleet are tackle recons. With the right boosts (CS/T3) or faction tackle you can point and web out to 70km (combined up to 100km). The main disadvantage of the tackle recons are their thin tank. Make sure to stay as much out of the enemy engagement range as possible and inside the range of your Logistic ships. Check out the armor version of the recons at the top of this document.