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:: So those are the ship groupings by CCP. Further you have to see the page(s) in the greater context of the wiki as there is also a page [[Hauling]]. I would change the current page into "Standard Haulers" being about those. I would mention both Noctis and Primae but not treat them any further. "Standard Haulers" because "Haulers" would always implicitly mean any ship when for hauling, even a Sunesis. Create a new page for Deep Space Transports and Freighters. Pages for Blockade Runners and Jump Freighters already exist. Tie all those pages together with [[Hauling]]. Hauling already duplicates a lot this page here (Industrials). Also obviously move the comparison table and graphic to [[Hauling]]. [[User:Erwin Madelung|Erwin Madelung]] ([[User talk:Erwin Madelung|talk]]) 18:23, 1 July 2022 (UTC) | :: So those are the ship groupings by CCP. Further you have to see the page(s) in the greater context of the wiki as there is also a page [[Hauling]]. I would change the current page into "Standard Haulers" being about those. I would mention both Noctis and Primae but not treat them any further. "Standard Haulers" because "Haulers" would always implicitly mean any ship when for hauling, even a Sunesis. Create a new page for Deep Space Transports and Freighters. Pages for Blockade Runners and Jump Freighters already exist. Tie all those pages together with [[Hauling]]. Hauling already duplicates a lot this page here (Industrials). Also obviously move the comparison table and graphic to [[Hauling]]. [[User:Erwin Madelung|Erwin Madelung]] ([[User talk:Erwin Madelung|talk]]) 18:23, 1 July 2022 (UTC) | ||
::: It has been another month. If no edit happens, I'll remove the work in progress box. [[User:Erwin Madelung|Erwin Madelung]] ([[User talk:Erwin Madelung|talk]]) 06:37, 13 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Section/article titles, singular or plural? == | == Section/article titles, singular or plural? == | ||
This topic is in reaction to [[User:Erwin Madelung|Erwin Madelung]] edit summary for this <span class="plainlinks">[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/index.php?title=Industrials&diff=188675&oldid=188674 edit]</span>.<br>I do not agree that article and section headers should be plural. The [[UniWiki:Manual of Style#Article titles, headings, and sections|Manual of Style]] and | This topic is in reaction to [[User:Erwin Madelung|Erwin Madelung]] edit summary for this <span class="plainlinks">[https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/index.php?title=Industrials&diff=188675&oldid=188674 edit]</span>.<br>I do not agree that article and section headers should be plural. The [[UniWiki:Manual of Style#Article titles, headings, and sections|Manual of Style]] and these Wikipedia articles, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Article titles#Article title format|Article titles]] and [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals)|Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals)]] indicate that titles should be singular, unless ...<br>There is a somewhat "technical" reason for this. Singular title make the link end trick possible. The link end trick makes it possible to make a link to an article or section, displaing a plural, without needing the use of a piped link it functions as follows:<br><br> | ||
Lets take the Vector article to demonstrate. For a link with the visible text singular we put the article name in double square brackets, <nowiki>[[Vexor]]</nowiki> which looks like this [[Vexor]]. For a plural displaying link we can simply add an s directly after the closing brackets, <nowiki>[[Vexor]]s</nowiki> giving this [[Vexor]]s, a plural display that still goes to the singular article.<br><br>For more information about links and the link end trick (Word-ending links), see [[Wikipedia:Help:Links#Internal links]]<br><br>I agree that it was inconsistent at the page but I am always a bit hesitant to change existing titles afraid of breaking incoming links. --[[User:Evon R'al|Evon R'al]] ([[User talk:Evon R'al|talk]]) 11:30, 2 July 2022 (UTC) | Lets take the Vector article to demonstrate. For a link with the visible text singular we put the article name in double square brackets, <nowiki>[[Vexor]]</nowiki> which looks like this [[Vexor]]. For a plural displaying link we can simply add an s directly after the closing brackets, <nowiki>[[Vexor]]s</nowiki> giving this [[Vexor]]s, a plural display that still goes to the singular article.<br><br>For more information about links and the link end trick (Word-ending links), see [[Wikipedia:Help:Links#Internal links]]<br><br>I agree that it was inconsistent at the page but I am always a bit hesitant to change existing titles afraid of breaking incoming links. --[[User:Evon R'al|Evon R'al]] ([[User talk:Evon R'al|talk]]) 11:30, 2 July 2022 (UTC) | ||
: The manual of style is clear in this regard. More important the whole practice on this wiki is accordingly. This talk page isn't the place to challenge this. Your reason regarding the linking is... | |||
: <code><nowiki>[[Vexor]]s</nowiki></code> turns into [[Vexor]]s while <code><nowiki>[[Vexor|Vexors]]</nowiki></code> turns into [[Vexor|Vexors]]. I suggest you right click and inspect those links. You'll observe that both are <code><a href="/Vexor" title="Vexor">Vexors</a></code> in html. The former only looks prettier when editing and for that it is indeed preferred when you can use it. But suggesting to rename pages to allow this is just... [[User:Erwin Madelung|Erwin Madelung]] ([[User talk:Erwin Madelung|talk]]) 11:57, 6 July 2022 (UTC) | |||