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Some of the rigging choices may seem weird for these fits, but they are all chosen to allow for extreme flexibility in refitting between '''Vanguards''', '''Assaults''' as well as '''Headquarter sites'''. As such, some fits you see here may seem slightly compromised, but that is a choice we made to allow people to use the same ship for all the different sites. If you have a substantially similar incursions rig that is already attached to your ship, please do not feel obliged to switch those incursion rigs out in order to run with us.

== Logistics (basic and advanced) ==

~~The entry-level for logistics is pretty high, simply because they are the backbone of the fleet.~~ Due to the limited number of capsuleers in the fleet, ~~each logistics pilot needs to be of a much higher caliber in order to keep~~ the number of logistic ships to a minimum, allowing for as many damage dealers ~~as possible~~. ~~Any can~~ be used, ~~but~~ the {{sh|Scimitar}} is favored in [[Incursion sites#Vanguard sites|Vanguards]] ~~due to its~~ remote tracking ~~bonus and its~~ ability to ~~operate independent~~ of ~~other logi~~. The {{sh|~~Basilisk~~}} ~~is needed~~ in [[Incursion sites#Assault sites|Assault]] and [[Incursion sites#Headquarter sites|Headquarter]] sites ~~for~~ its ability to field utility cap to counter the heavy neuting and capacitor needs of those sites~~, but is suboptimal for a wardeccable Vanguard group like the Uni's due to its need of cap chains, and is not listed here due to said cap chain adding an additional point of failure for fleet safety~~. For pilots unable to ~~use the~~ Scimitar but can ~~use~~ T3 Caldari ~~cruisers~~, the {{sh|Tengu}} ~~serves~~ as ~~a cap-stable Basilisk~~ alternative.

Due to the limited number of capsuleers that can make up the fleet, the number of logistic ships ongrid should to be kept to the minimum necessary to ensure the safety of the fleet, allowing for as many damage dealers. This results in much higher [[Preparing for Incursions#Logistics|minimum skill requirements]] for prospective logistics pilots comparted to those required those of new DD pilots. While in theory any shield focused logistics ship could be used, the {{sh|Scimitar}} is the favored dedicated logistic cruiser in the Uni Community due to its remote tracking bonus and its ability to operate independent of other logi. As the community primarily runs [[Incursion sites#Vanguard sites|Vanguards]] remote tracking links bonuses further improve our battleships ability to deal damage to the smaller frigate sized enemies that make up a large percentage of the targets in [[Incursion sites#Vanguard sites|Vanguard sites]]. Additionally, unlike the {{sh|Basilisk}}, the {{sh|Scimitar}} can be made cap stable thus removing the need for a logistics cap chain which would add an additional unnecessary point of failure and reduce overall fleet safety, a strong bonus for a group that promotes the inclusion of less experienced players in our fleets. The benefits of the {{sh|Scimitar}} are further amplified by the fact that when the majority of fleet members are in a wardeccable corporation like the Uni due to how cap chains and wardecs interact. For other incursion communities that primarily focus on [[Incursion sites#Assault sites|Assault]] and [[Incursion sites#Headquarter sites|Headquarter]] sites the {{sh|Basilisk}} is needed due its ability to field utility cap to counter the heavy neuting and capacitor needs of those sites. For pilots unable to fly a {{sh|Scimitar}} but can fly a T3 Caldari cruiser, the {{sh|Tengu}} is accepted as an alternative option, however, pilots wanting to fly logi for the long run in our community should train towards the requirement skills for the {{sh|Scimitar}} fits shown below.

{{note box|Remember that you need to train {{sk|Target Management|V|icon=yes}} and {{sk|Advanced Target Management|III|icon=yes}} in order to be able to lock all 10 members of the fleet. You should also make sure that your fit is [[Cap_Stable#Cap_Stable|cap stable]], so you can run all modules all the time~~. For the Basilisk this means cap stable with incoming capacitor transmitter~~.}}

{{note box|Remember that you need to train {{sk|Target Management|V|icon=yes}} and {{sk|Advanced Target Management|III|icon=yes}} in order to be able to lock all 10 members of the fleet. You should also make sure that your fit is [[Cap_Stable#Cap_Stable|cap stable]], so you can run all modules all the time.}}

=== Scimitar ===

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 Some of the rigging choices may seem weird for these fits, but they are all chosen to allow for extreme flexibility in refitting between '''Vanguards''', '''Assaults''' as well as '''Headquarter sites'''. As such, some fits you see here may seem slightly compromised, but that is a choice we made to allow people to use the same ship for all the different sites. If you have a substantially similar incursions rig that is already attached to your ship, please do not feel obliged to switch those incursion rigs out in order to run with us.
 == Logistics (basic and advanced) ==
-The entry-level for logistics is pretty high, simply because they are the backbone of the fleet. Due to the limited number of capsuleers in the fleet, each logistics pilot needs to be of a much higher caliber in order to keep the number of logistic ships to a minimum, allowing for as many damage dealers as possible. Any can be used, but the {{sh|Scimitar}} is favored in [[Incursion sites#Vanguard sites|Vanguards]] due to its remote tracking bonus and its ability to operate independent of other logi. The {{sh|Basilisk}} is needed in [[Incursion sites#Assault sites|Assault]] and [[Incursion sites#Headquarter sites|Headquarter]] sites for its ability to field utility cap to counter the heavy neuting and capacitor needs of those sites, but is suboptimal for a wardeccable Vanguard group like the Uni's due to its need of cap chains, and is not listed here due to said cap chain adding an additional point of failure for fleet safety. For pilots unable to use the Scimitar but can use T3 Caldari cruisers, the {{sh|Tengu}} serves as a cap-stable Basilisk alternative.
+Due to the limited number of capsuleers that can make up the fleet, the number of logistic ships ongrid should to be kept to the minimum necessary to ensure the safety of the fleet, allowing for as many damage dealers. This results in much higher [[Preparing for Incursions#Logistics|minimum skill requirements]] for prospective logistics pilots comparted to those required those of new DD pilots. While in theory any shield focused logistics ship could be used, the {{sh|Scimitar}} is the favored dedicated logistic cruiser in the Uni Community due to its remote tracking bonus and its ability to operate independent of other logi. As the community primarily runs [[Incursion sites#Vanguard sites|Vanguards]] remote tracking links bonuses further improve our battleships ability to deal damage to the smaller frigate sized enemies that make up a large percentage of the targets in [[Incursion sites#Vanguard sites|Vanguard sites]]. Additionally, unlike the {{sh|Basilisk}}, the {{sh|Scimitar}} can be made cap stable thus removing the need for a logistics cap chain which would add an additional unnecessary point of failure and reduce overall fleet safety, a strong bonus for a group that promotes the inclusion of less experienced players in our fleets. The benefits of the {{sh|Scimitar}} are further amplified by the fact that when the majority of fleet members are in a wardeccable corporation like the Uni due to how cap chains and wardecs interact. For other incursion communities that primarily focus on [[Incursion sites#Assault sites|Assault]] and [[Incursion sites#Headquarter sites|Headquarter]] sites the {{sh|Basilisk}} is needed due its ability to field utility cap to counter the heavy neuting and capacitor needs of those sites. For pilots unable to fly a {{sh|Scimitar}} but can fly a T3 Caldari cruiser, the {{sh|Tengu}} is accepted as an alternative option, however, pilots wanting to fly logi for the long run in our community should train towards the requirement skills for the {{sh|Scimitar}} fits shown below.
-{{note box|Remember that you need to train {{sk|Target Management|V|icon=yes}} and {{sk|Advanced Target Management|III|icon=yes}} in order to be able to lock all 10 members of the fleet. You should also make sure that your fit is [[Cap_Stable#Cap_Stable|cap stable]], so you can run all modules all the time. For the Basilisk this means cap stable with incoming capacitor transmitter.}}
+{{note box|Remember that you need to train {{sk|Target Management|V|icon=yes}} and {{sk|Advanced Target Management|III|icon=yes}} in order to be able to lock all 10 members of the fleet. You should also make sure that your fit is [[Cap_Stable#Cap_Stable|cap stable]], so you can run all modules all the time.}}
 === Scimitar ===
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