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| − | = Incursions = | + | == Cassiel Seraphim == |
| − | === General advice === | + | {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; border:0px solid grey;" |
| − | * Even though there's a ''"me"'' in ''"team"'', if you jumble it all up, use your name instead of ''"I"'' or ''"me"''.
| + | | valign="top" style="background:#111111; padding:8px; padding-left:12px; padding-right:12px; border:0px;" | [[image:cassiel_seraphim_full.png|81px|link=]] |
| − | * Carry logistic drones, in case logistics get jammed or disconnect untimely (use tech two if you can).
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| − | * Fit an energy transfer or a shield transporter if you have spare highs, for the same reason. | + | Random facts about Cassiel Seraphim. |
| − | * Put your drones on passive.
| + | * He was born a '''True Amarrian'''. |
| − | * If you are unsure about your fit, ask for a second opinion. Do remember that a lot of people throw advice around without really thinking or based on assumptions that may or may not be true. Don't be afraid to ask why they suggest something, if it seems weird.
| + | * He is a [http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/the-speakers-of-truth/ Speaker of Truth]. |
| − | * Stay calm and consider your options. A rash, split second decision is usually much worse than taking a few seconds to consider your options. | + | Killboard activity, this will show you if he died horribly recently. |
| − | * Never enter a site unless your fleet commander tells you to.
| + | * [https://zkillboard.com/character/669626574/ Recent killboard activity] |
| − | * Always remember to align when the fleet commander tells you to, so you are ready to warp with the rest of the fleet instead of being left behind.
| + | Chribba's eveboard, this will let you peruse his skills. |
| − | * Any ship in the fleet should be able to warp in first into a site and anchor, although practically you might want to make sure you don't tie up your dronebunny, logistics or your best damage dealers as an anchor (them being jammed would slow the fleet down).
| + | * [http://eveboard.com/pilot/Cassiel_Seraphim Cassiel Seraphim on eveboard] |
| − | | + | Wiki contributions, this will show you what he's been doing lately. |
| − | === Energy transfer advice ===
| + | * [http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Special:Contributions/Cassiel_Seraphim Wiki contributions] |
| − | * Always know who your backup for energy transfers are, and make sure they know they are yours. | + | Cleanup, this will list all the pages he has under his user. |
| − | * If your energy transfer buddy is jammed and his energy transfers drop, turn off yours until your cap-buddy is unjammed. That way you conserve your own cap.
| + | * [http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/index.php?title=Special%3APrefixIndex&prefix=Cassiel+Seraphim%2F&namespace=2 All wiki pages in his user namespace] |
| − | | + | | valign="top" style="background:#111111; padding:10px; padding-left:14px; padding-right:14px; border:0px;" | |
| − | === Logistics ===
| + | In true EVE-fashion he likes his sandboxes ... |
| − | * Always prioritize your fellow logistics before anything else when repairing. If a logistics ship goes down, the entire fleet risk going down. | + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox|The Sandbox]] - Lots of random stuff. |
| − | * On Guardians and Baslisks, even without incoming energy transfers you have enough cap to run one shield transfer or remote armour repairer running indefinitely, possibly two pending on your skills. Remember that.
| + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox2|The Sandbox2]] - |
| − | * Use only as many reppers as you need, don't over-repair because then you'll be too slow to respond to shifting aggro.
| + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox3|The Sandbox3]] - Priority targets (beginning of a new checklist) |
| − | * If you are jammed, always call out "<name> jammed, ET down" (leave out the ET down part if you don't have one). | + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox4|The Sandbox4]] - |
| − | * Always turn off off your energy transfers if your energy transfer buddy is jammed and pending on the situation request backup energy from your damage dealers.
| + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox5|The Sandbox5]] - |
| − | * Make sure you logistical buddy is always next to you landing on a gate, or arriving on a site.
| + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox6|The Sandbox6]] - Crimewatch. |
| − | * Double-check your watch list whenever someone joins a fleet or disconnects and reconnects.
| + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox7|The Sandbox7]] - |
| − | | + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox8|The Sandbox8]] - Debug. |
| − | === Target Calling ===
| + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox9|The Sandbox9]] - |
| − | * Some ships are easier to hit than others (signature, resists, speed and prefered orbit). Tamas for example as much easier to hit than Schmaels, Eysters and Renyns. Romis, while having higher resists, are easier to hit than the close orbiting Augas.
| + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox10|The Sandbox10]] - Faction example. |
| − | * When the Sansha rats spawn at a distance, they'll use their microwarpdrives to burn straight at you until they hit their preferred orbit. If you can lock them fast enough while they are doing so, you'll have a ship with blown up signature and no transversal (ie, very easy to hit even for battleships). | + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox11|The Sandbox11]] - Factions and stuff. |
| − | * Decide whether you want to reduce the DPS as soon as possible or if you'd rather want each ship to fire at the most suitable ship in order to be as effective as possible in the long run.
| + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox12|The Sandbox12]] - Faction template. |
| − | | + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sandbox13|The Sandbox13]] - Propulsion modules. |
| − | = Vanguard Sites = | |
| − | === Override Transfer Array tips ===
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| − | * Focus fire to muscle through the tower's and Mara's repairs.
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| − | * The initial wave of Tamas do not spawn any Niarjas, only the delayed spawn do.
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| − | * Lock up the initial Tama Cerebelums right away and shoot those first, that way the delayed spawn of Tamas that will trigger the Niarjas, will be the last Tamas you end up killing. A simple solution that doesn't require tagging, but still allows you to trim the DPS down in a controlled manner.
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| − | = Command Ships and Fleet Assistance Modules = | |
| − | Just a little something I'm putting together to see the various combinations for offgrid boosting, in regards to ships and implants. It will assume you have all the relevant skills trained to V and using tech 2 gang links, then show the difference between the various ships with or without the appropriate skirmish mindlink implant.
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| − | The numbers in parenthesis is if you have the appropriate warfare implant. So a Claymore running the Skirmish Warfare Mindlink would boost the previous +32,34% web range up to +48,52% web range. The siege and armour gang links are combined, since their effects are identical to either themselves (if using racial links) or the Claymore (if using non-racial links).
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| − | | |
| − | == Relevant skills ==
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| − | {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%;"
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| − | ! Warfare Gang Links
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| − | ! Strategic cruisers
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| − | ! Command Ships
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| − | ! Warfare Mindlink implants
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| − | * Leadership V
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| − | * <racial> Warfare V | |
| − | * <racial> Warfare Specialist V | |
| − | | | |
| − | * Mechanics V | |
| − | * Electronics V
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| − | * Engineering V
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| − | * Navigation V
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| − | * Gunnery V ''(for all but the Tengu)''
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| − | * Drones III ''(for Legions & Proteus)'' | |
| − | * Missile Launcher Operation III ''(for Lokis)'' | |
| − | * Missile Launcher Operation V ''(for Tengu)'' | |
| − | * Shield Operation III | |
| − | * Spaceship Command III | |
| − | * <racial> Cruiser V | |
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| − | * Spaceship Command V | |
| − | * Mechanics V | |
| − | * Engineering V | |
| − | * Leadership V | |
| − | * Assault Ships IV
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| − | * Heavy Assault Ships IV
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| − | * <racial> Cruiser V
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| − | * Battlecruisers V
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| − | * Command Ships V
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| − | | | |
| − | * Science III ''(for Cybernetics)''
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| − | * Cybernetics V
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| | |} | | |} |
| − | * <racial> Cruiser V means Amarr, Caldari, Gallente or Minmatar Cruiser V.
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| − | * <racial> Warfare (Specialist) V means Armor, Siege, Skirmish or Information Warfare (Specialist) V.
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| − | == Command Ships and Strategic Cruisers == | + | == Miscellaneous projects == |
| − | {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%;" | + | This is a wild mix of current, finished and future projects I want to tackle. |
| − | |- align="center" | + | {| style="font-size:90%;" |
| − | ! rowspan=2 | Type of Ship
| + | | valign="top" | |
| − | ! colspan=2 | Skirmish Links
| + | <p>'''Incursions'''</p> |
| − | ! Armour/Siege Links
| + | * [[Incursions]] |
| − | ! rowspan=2 | Practical effects (bonus with correct implant):
| + | * [[EVE University Incursion Community]] |
| − | |- style="background:#222222;" align="center"
| + | * [[How to find Incursions]] |
| − | | Web range
| + | * [[Constellation layouts for Incursions|Constellation layouts]] |
| − | | Signature
| + | * [[Incursion sites]] |
| − | | Resists, cycle & cap
| + | * [[History of Incursions]] |
| − | |- align="center"
| + | : |
| − | | [[Claymore]] (skirmish)
| + | * [[Anatomy of Incursions]] |
| − | | +32,34%<br>(+48,52%)
| + | * [[Incursion fitting principles|Fitting principles]] |
| − | | -21,56%<br>(-32,34%)
| + | * [[Sansha's Manual]] |
| − | | +18,75%<br>(+28,12%)
| + | * [[Ship progression in Incursions]] |
| − | | align="left"| Federation webs go from 14km to 18,5 km (20,8 km).<br>True Sansha webs go from 15 km to 19,9 km (22,3 km).<br>Meta 4 reps go from 5 sec to 4,1 sec (3,6 sec).<br>Tech 2 reps go from 4,5 to 3,7 sec (3,2 sec).
| + | * [[Fleet setup in Incursions]] |
| − | |- align="center"
| + | : |
| − | | [[Damnation]] (armour)<br>[[Vulture]] (shield)
| + | * [[Preparing for Incursions]] |
| − | | +28,13%<br>(+42,19%)
| + | * [[Roles in Incursions]] |
| − | | -18,75%<br>(-28,12%)
| + | * [[Incursions checklist]] |
| − | | +21,56%<br>(+32,34%)
| + | : |
| − | | align="left"| Federation webs go from 14km to 17,9 km (19,9 km).<br>True Sansha webs go from 15 km to 19,2 km (21,3 km).<br>Meta 4 reps go from 5 sec to 3,9 sec (3,4 sec).<br>Tech 2 reps go from 4,5 to 3,7 sec (3,0 sec). | + | * [[Vanguard Incursion fits]] |
| − | |- align="center"
| + | * [[Assault Incursion fits]] |
| − | | [[Loki]] (skirmish)
| + | : |
| − | | +35,2%<br>(+52,7%)
| + | * [[EUNIC: Selecting a focus]] |
| − | | -23,4%<br>(-35,2%)
| + | * [[EUNIC: Forming a fleet]] |
| − | | +18,75%<br>(+28,12%)
| + | * [[EUNIC: Learning to lead]] |
| − | | align="left"| Federation webs go from 14 km to 18,9 km (21,4 km).<br>True Sansha webs go from 15 km to 20,3 km (22,9 km).<br>Meta 4 reps go from 5 sec to 4,1 sec (3,6 sec).<br>Tech 2 reps go from 4,5 to 3,7 sec (3,2 sec).
| + | * [[Lyavite in Incursions]] |
| − | |- align="center"
| + | : |
| − | | [[Legion]] (armour)<br>[[Tengu]] (shield)'''
| + | * [[:Template:Incursions links]] |
| − | | +28,13%<br>(+42,19%)
| + | * [[:Template:Incursions sites]] |
| − | | -18,75%<br>(-28,12%)
| + | * [[:Template:Incursion sites]] |
| − | | +23,44%<br>(+35,16%)
| + | * [[:Template:Incursion rats]] |
| − | | align="left"| Federation webs go from 14 km to 17,9 km (19,9 km).<br>True Sansha webs go from 15 km to 19,2 km (21,3 km).<br>Meta 4 reps go from 5 sec to 3,8 sec (3,2 sec).<br>Tech 2 reps go from 4,5 to 3,4 sec (2,9 sec). | + | * [[:Template:eunic]] |
| − | |}
| + | : |
| − | | + | * [[:Category:Incursions]] |
| − | == Bonused webs and stacking ==
| + | * [[:Category:Incursions sites]] |
| − | The primary percentage is from using a 60% base reduction web, like the [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Federation_Navy_Stasis_Webifier Federation Navy Stasis Webifier] and the percentages in parenthesis is for 55% base reduction webs, like the [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/True_Sansha_Stasis_Webifier True Sansha Stasis Webifier]. The parenthesis in the header is the effective rating of each new web given the stacking penalty. | + | * [[:Category:EVE University Incursion Community]] |
| − | | + | | valign="top" | |
| − | Velocity bonused ships like the [[Vindicator]] or the [[Vigilant]] have a 50% stronger reduction in speed (90% and 82,5% respectively).
| + | <p>'''User interface'''</p> |
| − | {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%;"
| + | * [[Audio Alerts]] |
| − | ! rowspan=2 | Type of ship
| + | * [[NeoCom]] |
| − | ! colspan=6 align="center" | '''Effective speed for webbed targets with stacking'''
| + | * [[Star Map]] |
| − | ! rowspan=2 | Practical effects
| + | * [[Directional scanning]] |
| − | |- style="background:#222222;" align="center" | + | * [[Fleet interface]] |
| − | | First web<br>''(100%)
| + | * [[Overview]] |
| − | | Second web<br>''(86,9%)''
| + | * [[Overview manipulation]] |
| − | | Third web<br>''(57,1%)''
| + | * [[Ship Tree]] |
| − | | Fourth web<br>''(28,3%)''
| + | : |
| − | | Fifth web<br>''(10,6%)''
| + | * [[Fleet Watch Lists]] |
| − | | Sixth web<br>''(3,0%)''
| + | : [[watch list]] |
| − | |- align="center"
| + | : |
| − | | nowrap | [[Vindicator]]<br>[[Vigilant]]
| + | * [[Keyboard controls]] |
| − | | 10,00%<br>(17,50%)
| + | : [[shortcuts]] |
| − | | 2,18%<br>(4,95%)
| + | : [[hotkeys]] |
| − | | 1,06%<br>(2,62%)
| + | : |
| − | | 0,79%<br>(2,01%)
| + | * [[:Category:User Interface]] |
| − | | 0,71%<br>(1,83%)
| + | | valign="top" | |
| − | | 0,69%<br>(1,79%)
| + | <p>'''Races & factions'''</p> |
| − | | align="left" |''Given a base speed of 1000 m/s:''<br>Federation reduce speed to 100, 22, 11 and 8 m/s.<br>True Sansha reduce speed to 175, 50, 26 and 20 m/s.
| + | * [[Races]] |
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| + | : |
| − | | nowrap | Non-bonused<br>ships
| + | * [[Angel Cartel]] |
| − | | 40,00%<br>(45,00%) | + | * [[Blood Raiders]] |
| − | | 19,14%<br>(23,49%)
| + | * [[Guristas Pirates]] |
| − | | 12,59%<br>(16,11%)
| + | * [[Serpentis]] |
| − | | 10,45%<br>(13,61%)
| + | * [[The Blood Raider Covenant]] |
| − | | 9,78%<br>(12,81%)
| + | * [[The Syndicate]] |
| − | | 9,61%<br>(12,60%)
| + | : |
| − | | align="left" |''Given a base speed of 1000 m/s:''<br>Federation reduce speed to 400, 191, 126 and 104 m/s.<br>True Sansha reduce speed to 450, 235, 161 and 136 m/s.
| + | * [[CONCORD]] |
| − | |}
| + | * [[Drifters]] |
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| | + | * [[Corporations]] |
| | + | * [[NPC Corporations]] |
| | + | | valign="top" | |
| | + | <p>'''Structures'''</p> |
| | + | * [[:Template:Structures]] |
| | + | * [[:Category:Structures]] |
| | + | : |
| | + | * [[Citadels]] |
| | + | * [[Engineering Complexes]] |
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| | + | * [[Stations]] |
| | + | * [[Station Geometry]] |
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| | + | * [[Anchoring structures]] |
| | + | * [[Structure Browser]] |
| | + | * [[Vulnerability States]] |
| | + | * [[Asset Safety]] |
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| | + | | valign="top" | |
| | + | <p>'''Miscellaneous'''</p> |
| | + | * Template:icon (list of [[icons]]) |
| | + | * [[:Template:code]] |
| | + | * [[:Template:quote]] |
| | + | * [[:Template:button]] |
| | + | * [[:Template:edit]] |
| | + | * [[:Template:lex]] |
| | + | * [[:Template:bug]] |
| | + | * [[:Template:note]] |
| | + | * [[:Template:ambiguation]] |
| | + | : |
| | + | * [[:Template:alpha]] |
| | + | * [[:Template:omega]] |
| | + | : |
| | + | * [[Skill trading]] |
| | + | * [[New Eden Store]] |
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| | + | * [[:Template:whrats]] |
| | + | * [[Security tags]] |
| | + | * [[Loyalty Points|Loyalty points]] |
| | + | * [[Travel fits]] |
| | + | * [[Command Bursts]] |
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| | + | * [[Timers]] |
| | + | * [[:Template:Legality]] |
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| | + | * [[Remote assistance]] |
| | + | * [[Resistances and Impedances]] |
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| | + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Sleepers]] |
| | + | * [[User:Cassiel_Seraphim/Symbols]] |
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| − | == Maintenance Bots ==
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| − | Below is a breakdown on the statistics of logistical drones compared to remote armour repairs and shield transporters. The regular values are for tech one drones and the values in parenthesis are for tech two drones. The numbers are split up into unbonused ships, regular ships, and logistics ships who get bonus to drone repairs and range of remote armour repairs and shield transporters.
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| − | {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%;"
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| − | ! rowspan=2 | Module/Drone
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| − | ! colspan=2 align="center" | '''Light Bots''' (unbonused)
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| − | ! colspan=2 align="center" | '''Light Bots''' (logistics)
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| − | ! colspan=2 align="center" | '''Medium Bots''' (unbonused)
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| − | ! colspan=2 align="center" | '''Medium Bots''' (logistics)
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| − | ! colspan=2 align="center" | '''Heavy Bots''' (unbonused)
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| − | ! colspan=2 align="center" | '''Heavy Bots''' (logistics)
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| − | ! colspan=2 align="center" | '''Remote Repair Modules'''
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| − | |- style="background:#222222;" align="center"
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| − | | Armour
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| − | | Shield
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| − | | Armour
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| − | | Shield
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| − | | Armour
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| − | | Shield
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| − | | Armour
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| − | | Shield
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| − | | Armour
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| − | | Shield
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| − | | Armour
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| − | | Shield
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| − | | No Boosts
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| − | | Max Boosts
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| − | |- align="center"
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| − | | Optimal Range
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| − | | colspan=4 nowrap | 6,250 m<br>(6,250 m)
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| − | | colspan=4 nowrap | 9,375 m<br>(9,375 m)
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| − | | colspan=4 nowrap | 12,500 m<br>(12,500 m)
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| − | | colspan=2 nowrap | 8,400 m (normal ships)<br>71,500 m (for logistics)
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| − | |- align="center"
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| − | | MWD Speed
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| − | | colspan=4 nowrap | 4,000 m/s<br>(4,800 m/s)
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| − | | colspan=4 nowrap | 3,437,5 m/s<br>(4,125 m/s)
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| − | | colspan=4 nowrap | 2,500 m/s<br>(3,000 m/s)
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| − | | colspan=2 | ''Instant''
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| − | |- align="center"
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| − | | Speed
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| − | | colspan=4 nowrap | 350 m/s<br>(420 m/s)
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| − | | colspan=4 nowrap | 300 m/s<br>(360 m/s)
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| − | | colspan=4 nowrap | 250 m/s<br>(300 m/s)
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| − | | colspan=2 | ''Instant''
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| − | |- align="center"
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| − | | HP / cycle
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| − | | nowrap | 15 hp<br>(17,5 hp)
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| − | | nowrap | 15 hp<br>(18 hp)
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| − | | nowrap | 30 hp<br>(35 hp)
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| − | | nowrap | 30 hp<br>(36 hp)
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| − | | nowrap | 30 hp<br>(35 hp)
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| − | | nowrap | 30 hp<br>(36 hp)
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| − | | nowrap | 60 hp<br>(70 hp)
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| − | | nowrap | 60 hp<br>(72 hp)
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| − | | colspan=2 nowrap | 75 hp<br>(90 hp)
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| − | | colspan=2 nowrap | 150 hp<br>(180 hp)
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| − | | colspan=2 nowrap | 384 hp<br>(384 hp)
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| − | |- align="center"
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| − | | Duration
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| − | | colspan=12 | 5 seconds<br>(5 seconds)
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| − | | nowrap | 5 s<br>(4,5 s)
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| − | | nowrap | 3,24 s<br>(2,92 s)
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| − | |- align="center"
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| − | | HP / sec
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| − | | nowrap | 3 hp/s<br>(3,5 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 3 hp/s<br>(3,6 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 6 hp/s<br>(7 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 6 hp/s<br>(7,2 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 6 hp/s<br>(7 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 6 hp/s<br>(7,2 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 12 hp/s<br>(14 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 12 hp/s<br>(14,4 hp/s)
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| − | | colspan=2 nowrap | 15 hp/s<br>(18 hp/s)
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| − | | colspan=2 nowrap | 30 hp/s<br>(36 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 76,8 hp/s<br>(85,3 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 118,4 hp/s<br>131,6 hp/s)
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| − | |- style="background:#222222;" align="center"
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| − | | 5 x<br>(full flight)
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| − | | nowrap | 15 hp/s<br>(17,5 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 15 hp/s<br>(18 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 30 hp/s<br>(35 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 30 hp/s<br>(36 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 30 hp/s<br>(35 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 30 hp/s<br>(36 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 60 hp/s<br>(70 hp/s)
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| − | | nowrap | 60 hp/s<br>(72 hp/s)
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| − | | colspan=2 nowrap | 75 hp/s<br>(90 hp/s)
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| − | | colspan=2 nowrap | 150 hp/s<br>(180 hp/s)
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| − | * Tech two light and medium armour drones only increase efficiency by 16,67% whereas the tech two shield drones are 20% more effecive. Both heavy armour and shield drones have the same +20% efficiency however.
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| − | * A single flight of [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Heavy_Shield_Maintenance_Bot_II Heavy Shield Maintenance Bot II] drones can keep a logistics ship alive for a quite some time, as could a few flights of [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Medium_Shield_Maintenance_Bot_II Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II] drones, so do not underestimate the value of having tech two maintenance bots as backups on damage dealers.
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| − | * Logistics drones rarely get any aggro, so there is no reason not to use tech two drones if you can.
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