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Among man's more adventurous and exciting, if risky endeavors he regular embarks upon, exploration and discovering the unknown are definitely one of his more distinguishing characteristics, among many others. In EVE, exploration remains an interesting passtime or primary activity for many players, and I feel that it is important at this time to begin to chronicle and explain some facets of this particular pursuit. It appears that at some time or another, a few select individuals embark on a similar text wall on this subject -- and with that, here is mine!

[[File:3P38 Ghost 1.png|200px|thumb|right|Message generated from initiating warp to a Ghost Site]]A rather convenient upgrade from the regular data or relic sites you get in low, null or wormhole space, these sites are rather dangerous. You can, however, be assured there will not be any cloaked interdictors lurking in the site.  

* Bringing a friend to hack the other containers. Having recently lost a Merlin to an Improved Serpentis Covert Research Facility because of rats, if you want to tank the rats (a Scythe with reppers staggered was not enough to sustain the DPS) then use a Moa. Overheated staggered cruiser reppers might be able to allow a teammate to tank the damage of 8 NPC rats that show up long enough for the rats to warp off, but not if you're using a frigate: it just doesn't have the buffer to take it. Last resort? Use a pair of Ospreys in a 2 Medium / 1 Large / 2 Capacitor Transmitter configuration. Have the logistics warp at range to the site, about 30km. May need to overheat the remote repairers.<br />

# Warp off anywhere. I then refit at my mobile depot and continue on.<br />

| fitName=Heron - Ghost Site Survivor

| fitID=Heron---Ghost-Site-Survivor

| low1name=Micro Auxiliary Power Core I

| low1typeID=11563

| low2name=Damage Control II

| low2typeID=2048

| mid1name=Data Analyzer II

| mid1typeID=30834

| mid2name=Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender

| mid2typeID=8433

| mid3name=5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive

| mid3typeID=35658

| mid4name=Type-E Enduring Cargo Scanner

| mid4typeID=6131

| rig1name=Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

| rig1typeID=31213

| rig2name=Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I

| rig2typeID=31716

| rig3name=Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

| rig3typeID=31752

| notes=Only suitable for high security space sites.</li><li>Can survive one high-security space container detonation. </li><li>Cannot tank rats if they are close. </li><li>Rigs are based on the author's choice of rigs for running Sleeper Caches: they do not particularly matter for this application.

| difficulty=0

| version=YC118 1.0

| shipDNA=605:11563;1:2048;1:30834;1:8433;1:35658;1:6131;1:9646;1:31213;1:31716;1:31752;1::

| ship=Merlin

| shipTypeID=603

| fitName=Merlin - Ghost Site Runner

| fitID=Merlin---Ghost-Site-Runner

| low2name=Type-D Restrained Overdrive Injector

| low2typeID=5631

| low3name=Type-D Restrained Nanofiber Structure

| mid1typeID=3831

| mid3name=5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive

| mid3typeID=35658

| rig3name=Small Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I

| rig3typeID=31728

| notes=Rated to survive three explosions of null-sec rated Ghost Sites (Improved). </li><li>Will not tank rats, and remote repairs from one Scythe or similar will not be sufficient to tank the rats. Warp off instead. </li><li>24.4K EHP against explosive damage, 22.7K EHP in shields.

| difficulty=0

| version=YC118 1.0

| shipDNA=603:2048;1:5631;1:5599;1:3831;1:30834;1:35658;1:2297;1:31788;2:31728;1::

:Remember to overload your explosive hardener if you know you will fail the container.

| style="padding:8px;" | ''Remember to turn off the Microwarpdrive while hacking. The increase in ship mass means that warping out takes longer, and any damage taken from rats will be amplified.''

:If, for various reasons you cannot fit or equip any one module, then I recommend either skipping the site or going for a cheap-as-dirt barebones fit with just a cheap Microwarpdrive and Analyzer with nothing else on the vessel. Cheap meta overdrive injectors and nanofibers are possible -- they're so cheap because nobody else uses them.  

:Picking a Keep at Range distance of 2250m is important not only for hacking sites in dangerous space (I like to call it fun space though, because that's what it is) but it also neatly positions the ship so you won't bounce off the container so fast that the hack auto-aborts by reason of the high velocity of the ship pushing itself away from hacking control range.  

[[File:3P38 Limited 11.png|200px|thumb|right|Shiny module that costs too much to bother with]]The so-called Blue Loot items are typically sold to NPC buy orders at most stations. Head to a normal trade hub (there is one place 1 jump from Jita, Amarr EFA, ...may need to make a jump or two away to get the proper price) and check that the icon on the right of the sale has a white (=) to indicate that you're getting full value. You can expect to make anywhere from 10 to 300 million ISK off of blue loot depending on the site: Standard and Superior Sleeper sites tend to have more blue loot.  

{{ quote |'''COSMOS item sourcing'''<br />

The Astero is a fine, capable hull that can do well as a stiff tanky drone boat for PvP, an impromptu site runner or just a basic exploration purpose. The nice thing is the fits that I have created for the Magnate cross directly over to this boat, the not-so nice thing is a lot of the people that fly this vessel or aspire to fly it shouldn't (that included me at some point). There are those who say "well just one good container and your ship is paid for" -- and that is valid argument, but that same "one good container" is a rather huge caveat, leaning heavily on the "if you get out alive" factor. Loose one of these clumsily inside a Standard Sleeper Cache, and you'll know why I recommend the Tech I hulls to newcomers and regular runners.

 

* A squad commander of a fleet can tag items with various characters in the alphabet or numerical indications, and this is one of the ways I identify cans that should not be hacked because of lack of sufficient value in them. A fleet of 1 member is fine.

* I can't think of anything to put here for now, so I'll just ... draw a blank.

 

 

 

 

Here's a general overview of what to do in this site, in the order that is what I have found to be the most efficient:

 

 

 

 

| style="padding:8px;" | ''Do not downgrade or alter these fits. They have been thoroughly tested and verified multiple times to be the minimum. If, by reason of skill levels or ISK you cannot fit them, then do not attempt the site. Hacking modules may be downgraded but site difficulty will increase notably; and T2 Analyzers are strongly recommended.''

 

Logistics vessels (a single self-sufficient capacitor stable Tech I logistics frigate is sufficient) can provide remote repairs if available to get around the requirements of local repair modules. That said, maintain a local buffer and resistance module(s) as normal.

 

 

 

| rig2name=Small Anti-Explosive Pump I

| notes=The fit to use for a Limited Sleeper Cache, when hacking the Remote Defense Grid Unit.</li><li>Swap the Relic Analyzer in when needed. </li><li>If turning off the damage cloud near the wreck with the Remote Pressure Control Unit, swap the cargo scanner for a Relic Analyzer II.

 

For those players with all Level V capacitor skills (Shield Compensation to IV required for the Heron), try these fits to skip hacking the Remote Pressure Control Unit entirely, and head directly into the storage depot inside the wreck field.

 

| style="padding:8px;" | ''You must be able to sustain at least (as in more than) 60 Effective Hit Points per second (EHP/sec) for a ship to survive inside this damage cloud. Capacitor stability is very much ideal: if less than 4 minutes, you should not run these fits.<br />

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

|[[File:3P38 Limited 16.png|thumb|none|alt=A|The site itself, from one angle]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 17.png|thumb|none|alt=A|And another angle]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 27.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Use the tactical overlay when possible]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 18.png|thumb|none|alt=A|The basic site overlook]]||

 

 

|[[File:3P38 Limited 19.png|thumb|none|alt=A|The warp in location]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 20.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Unstable Plasma Chambers (kind of like mines)]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 21.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Area of Affect damage clouds]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 22.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Various site objects]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 23.png|thumb|none|alt=A|RPCU and the container it "protects"]]

 

So specifics of the damage that is incurred upon detonation of a Plasma Chamber are hidden below, but it's not too serious unless the ship is untanked. When I first wanted to run Sleeper Caches, I found an Astero at a site that I could not scan down, so I switched to combat probes and probe out his ship. Then I wandered in and didn't know what was going on, and nearly lost the ship, warping out in 20% structure. Those were the days...

 

Normally the container inside the wreck and the one [http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/File:3P38_Limited_24.png just to the left of it] (also noted as "NOTE A" one of the pictures above) are the ones with the most value. Make sure you don't wander into the damage proximity of the wreck field when hacking that container.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The second approach is to fit specifically for surviving the area of affect cloud. All toxic gas clouds, both the prespawned ones and the ones that are generated upon detonation of an Unstable Plasma Chamber do similar damage per second, omni-damage types. This approach is recommended, though it does require excellent capacitor skills and proper tank skills. The advantage of this approach is the hacker can hack the container at his leisure, with little personal risk to himself before the hack can be completed.

 

 

 

 

|[[File:3P38 Limited 4.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Sustaining 96 damage from RPCU failure]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 10.png|thumb|none|alt=A|A Magnate tanking the damage field]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 8.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Heron sustaining the DPS comfortably]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 2.png|thumb|none|alt=A|This is why T2 Analyzers are a must (the early days)]]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the second approach, given that the the Forcefield Generator itself spawns a [http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=13200 Large EM Forcefield], it does call for some DPS. It's not exactly difficult to destroy it, however the 150hp/sec regeneration is a problem. 110 DPS is not enough: and given that Destroyers and Stealth Bombers cannot enter the site, this is a job for either multiple people or a high-damage frigate, such as an Assault Frigate or something like a Taranis. A test with an all-damage fit Taranis which did 304 DPS unheated using Void S (36 rounds exactly, with two Hobgoblin IIs) took it out handily in 20 seconds.

 

|[[File:3P38 Limited 1.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Activating the Forcefield Generator]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 3.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Destroying the Forcefield]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 5.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Large EM Forcefield destroyed]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 6.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Generator cannot be damaged, not enough DPS to FF]]||[[File:3P38 Limited 9.png|thumb|none|alt=A|Forcefield location in relation to rest of site]]

 

Shoot the Large EM Forcefield, not the Generator. The Generator cannot be damaged. The Generator will not spawn another Forcefield after the first is destroyed, so the container is open to grabs. Because an Astero does about 115 DPS with all level V skills, it's not going to be enough to overcome the self-regeneration shield value of the Forcefield.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

| notes=As it has only buffer, proper flying is essential to avoid taking too much damage. </li><li>Upgrade to Electron Blasters as room permits (requires Advanced Weapon Upgrades).</li><li>T2 Hardeners are optional.

| notes=You may elect to swap out the Data Analyzer for an extra Capacitor Recharger, this will help with repair module usage, and/or swap for T2 Energized Thermal and EM Membranes.</li><li>Be ready to overheat the Armor Repairer.

 

 

| notes=May elect to overheat the hardeners properly: it's slower than the Heron so takes longer to get to the Rift.

 

 

 

 

# Hack the Hyperfluct Generator to spawn a Spatial Rift, which is just the same thing, functionally speaking, as an acceleration gate. Battleships and below can take the gate: battleships are not recommended though because of their slow speed.

# Immediately lock up the loot cans and cargo scan for the two most valuable ones. Burn with the MWD to one, then hack it. Then make your way over to the self-destruct can and hack it. Then go hack the second most valuable can, then the third. By then the fourth can is a bonus. Warp out and pick up your secure container after the site despawns (if used), refit to your travel fit, and make your way home.<br />

 

 

 

 

 

| style="padding:8px;" | ''If the Alarm has been activated, and the Guardian Extermination Units are fully deployed, frigate pilots will have no choice but to slowboat cloaked to the Hidden Room, avoiding both damage clouds. Read the collapsed notation below for further information.''

! style="text-align:left" | <span style="color:#44c055">Running a "tripped" site</span>

| style="font-size:90%; color:#FFFFFF" | {{{1|Let's divide this into two parts: frigate and cruiser pilots, and the "other class" which covers ships with a good solid active tank to run the site with the Guardian Extermination Units fully deployed. Your ship will land at a different Beacon, as the warpin beacon is relocated once the Alarm is tripped and the Extermination Units spawn. Your ship may take some slight damage as it warps through the damage cloud: it is not enough to warrant any concern. The new beacon ensures you won't be immediately destroyed upon entry, however be very aware of the damage cloud sizes, and stay well away from them, along with a chance of a nearby Sentry Tower.

Assuming basic T1 frigates and standard cruisers like the Stratios, the only option is to slowboat to the Spatial Rift inside the site, ignoring all else inside the site. The hazards include the large damage clouds and the distant Sentry Towers which can engage out to 250km. Cloaking is recommended to slide up to the Rift without taking long-range damage which can wreck plans without too much difficulty. The slow speed under cloak is the only annoyance but is mandatory because the Towers in the backline (and possibly one or two in the middle) require such an approach. There won't be enough time or tank to burn through 70km to the Rift.

 

Cruisers have enough hit points and tank ability to simply burn through. Basic cruisers like the Stratios will need a dual rep fit to survive against 3 Sentry Towers, and will just have to burn through to the Hidden Room like the frigates, although MWDs are more or less a requirement and a consequence of that is increased damage taken. Any cruiser or above with greater than 1000 EHP/sec can simply ignore the damage clouds and hack the storage depots, though 1200 EHP/sec may be slightly better depending on the situation of the Sentry Towers.

! style="text-align:left" | <span style="color:#44c055">Guardian Extermination Unit Damage</span>

| style="font-size:90%; color:#FFFFFF" | {{{1|When the Extermination units first spawn, they generate a smaller radius cloud. I don't know the exact radius of it (it's not as big as the expanded clouds are), but I do know the damage per second. Here is the damage report of an Astero with just an Anti-Explosive armor rig and a Damage Control II equipped (near the end I dip into structure):

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:38 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''44'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:38 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''43'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:38 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''34'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:38 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''44'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:39 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''44'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:39 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''34'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:39 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''43'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:39 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''44'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:40 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''44'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:40 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''43'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:40 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''34'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.24 14:37:43 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''40'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

 

 

Now, once the damage clouds have enlarged, their radius of damage effect is about 67km. I was in a battleship, so I couldn't just fly around at will to test it from all sides, but 67km is about the cutoff. Assuming roughly 63% resistances to all damage types, the expanded cloud does about 354 damage per second. Using EFT or Pyfa's calculations of Effective Hit Points per Second (EHP/s), 900 EHP/s won't get you killed right away (the fit I used which tanked the damage shown below repped 963.9EHP/sec with one repair module) and was...Okay. 1200 EHP/sec is probably quite sufficient to tank the clouds indefinitely. Curiously, the Spatial Rift near the Calibration containers didn't work with the Engineering Stations spawned...Also if you want to MJD to the back room while tanking the damage clouds, you must account for the sentry tower damage. Output from the expanded clouds ([http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/File:3P38_Standard_13.png image for reference]):

 

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:53 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''94'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:53 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''77'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:53 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''91'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:54 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''94'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:54 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''91'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:54 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''77'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:54 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''92'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:58 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''94'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:58 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''92'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:59 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''94'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

[ 2016.06.20 01:08:59 ] (combat) <span style="color:red">'''91'''</span> <small>from</small> '''Guardian Extermination Unit'''<small> - Hits</small><br />

 

 

<span style="color:green">SUCCESS:</span> The coordinate for the can which you just hacked is added into your cargohold. You do not need to "Open Cargo" on the can as you normally do.<br />

 

 

 

 

 

 

Does that make sense? Good. Then take the rift. Do as I have instructed above. Hack the Remote Defense Grid Unit:

 

<span style="color:green">SUCCESS:</span> One Sentry Gun (the one to your left) is deactivated, and one Sentry Gun in the Tractor Beam area is activated.<br />

IMMEDIATELY after you land, turn on your Afterburner and orbit the Remote Defense Grid Unit. Hack it. (Speed Tip: Lock up the Sentry Tower further away and put your drones on it for now. If you don't have the skills for a T2 Data Analyzer, now is when you'll start regretting it. I know it's long train. But it's worth it.) Once you've hacked that one can, start approaching WHILE MAINTAINING SOME TRANSVERSAL to the nearby Sentry Gun. Do NOT approach it head-on: manually pilot towards it at an angle. It fires once every 15 seconds like all Sentry Guns at these sites: you can creatively overheat your hardeners if you know what you're doing. Once you get within range of your drones and weapons, start engaging it. You can orbit it safely at 7500m or whatever and it will hardly ever hit you. Its tracking is terrible, fire rate is very slow, but hits very hard when it does. Be careful.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'''CAN DIFFICULTY: 5/10 to 9/10: [YELLOW to RED HACKS]'''<br />

 

 

 

 

 

| style="padding:8px;" | ''The warp-in beacon for the site is moved once the alarm has been tripped.''

 

 

 

 

<span style="color:green">SUCCESS:</span> The alarm is suppressed. You are rewarded with a Pristine Storage Depot. I've had junk in this container, but confident and capable hackers in in T1 exploration ships can break the alarm unit.<br />

<span style="color:red">FAILURE:</span> No penalty immediately, however the alarm is not suppressed. You should not attempt a second try. The alarm messages in Local will inform you of what's happening. Sleeper Engineering Stations will spawn in each room area which do massive DPS once fully expanded.<br />

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You then have to make sure you can see your combat log (make sure it shows misses and hits) carefully on your screen. Having your Combat Log window pulled up helps too. The gameplan centers on the fact that the Sentry Gun fires every 15 seconds, yet your Microwarpdrive cycles once every 10 seconds. So you'd wait till it fires (and hits, or misses) the first time, then immediately activate the MWD approaching the rift ONCE. And only once: if it is set on auto-repeat, you might be dead within 10 seconds. You may want to turn that off for now. Then when it fires (and misses, or hits), you then hit the MWD again for one cycle. You repeat that until you get within activation range of the rift.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'''CAN DIFFICULTY: 7/10 [RED HACK]'''<br />