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See [[ship progression in Incursions|ship progression]] for more information.

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The training times listed for these will assume that you utilize '''+3 attribute implants''' (see [[the +3 Implants Program]] for unistas to get started). These implants are cheap and gives you a much needed boost to your training times.

Normally one should be careful about remaps and not spend them needlessly. However, if you are making an alt knowing that it will only train for a month or two and not train anything else after that point, consider using all the remaps.

[[PLEX]] can be used to activate [[Multiple Character Training]]. If you want to use the characters at the same time, or plan on training for a long time, consider making a '''second account''' instead as characters on the same account cannot be logged in at the same time.

[[Skill Injector|Skill injectors]] can be used to get these skills, but they are '''very expensive'''. It can however be an option to quickly get an alt up to speed if you've got the ISK lying around and you value time more than ISK.

The Minimum Damage Dealer, Minimum Logistics, and Minimum Ongrid Booster plans are available as a set of in-game skill plans.   

<u>EVE University Members</u>: To find these skill plans, choose "Skill Plans > Corporation Plans", on your in-game Skills interface.

[[File:Corporate Skill Plans.PNG|center|Where to find the in-game Corporate Skill Plans]]

<u>All Players</u>: The skill plans shown later on this page each have their in-game Corporate Skill plan name listed, along with text that can be copied to produce a link to the skill plan in-game.  To utilize the link, copy all text listed after the "Corporate Skill Plan link" for the plan you want to generate a link for, including the leading <nowiki><url></nowiki> and trailing <nowiki></url></nowiki>.  Then paste this string of text into your in-game notepad, and the game will automatically convert the pasted text into a link, which can then be used or shared.

A link to the Skill Plans can also be generated and shared in-game from the plans themselves.

= Damage dealers =

{{alpha|skillplan}}

Getting the minimum skills for a damage dealer requires a couple of months worth of training for {{Clonestate|omega}}s (times should be doubled when training on an {{Clonestate|alpha}}). This assumes a training plan for a turret-based battleship, done on a brand new character with no preexisting skills, and that no skill injectors are used.

! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Core skills

! [[file:icon_cog.png|32px|link=]] Utility skills

! [[file:icon_ship.png|32px|link=]] Ship skills

! [[File:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills

| ~ 16 days and 1 hour

| ~ 2 days and 10 hours

| ~ 4 days and 22 hours

| ~ 7 days and 1 hours

Weapon Upgrades IV<br>

Capacitor Management IV<br>

Hull Upgrades V<br>

Energy Grid Upgrades IV

Signature Analysis III<br>

Long Range Targeting III<br>

Propulsion Jamming III<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Propulsion Jamming}} is needed for the '''stasis webifier''' module normally fitted to T1 battleships and the {{sh|Vindicator}}. Other ships may also fit this module situationally, from time to time.</ref></small><br>

Armor Rigging III

Gunnery V<br>

Motion Prediction III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="gun upgrade">Having {{sk|Motion Prediction}}, {{sk|Rapid Firing}}, {{sk|Sharpshooter}} and {{sk|Controlled Bursts}} at III are all that's needed to get started, though it is recommended to train these skills to IV as soon as possible if you wish to invest further into Incursions.</ref></small><br>

Medium <racial> Turret III<br>

Large <racial> Turret III

Spaceship Command IV<br>

<racial> Frigate III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="racial"></ref></small><br>

Warp Drive Operation III<br>

Evasive Maneuvering III<br>

Drones V<br>

Light Drone Operation III<br>

Repair Drone Operation II<br>

Remote Armor Repair Systems III

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<small><references/></small>

=== Skill Plans ===

Listed below are the training plans for a general damage dealer, as well as specific skills for particular ships. These can be copied into your skill queue to train. The skills are not ordered in any sort of preference, so feel free to move them around as you see fit.

{{SkillQueue

|name=INC Armor DD Skillplan

|Mechanics 1

Mechanics 2

Weapon Upgrades 4

}}

  Amarr Frigate I

  Amarr Frigate II

  Large Energy Turret II

  Large Energy Turret III}}

  Gallente Frigate I

  Gallente Frigate II

  Large Hybrid Turret II

  Large Hybrid Turret III}}

  Small Energy Turret I

  Small Energy Turret II

  Large Hybrid Turret II

  Large Hybrid Turret III}}

== Recommended skills for damage dealers ==

* Improving your '''drones''' with skills for tech 2 variants, or larger kinds of drones, can provide additional damage at low cost.

* Training into a '''Marauder''' provides the largest damage boost you can get for your character in highsec Incursions, but takes a while.

! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] General skills

! [[file:incursions_headquarter_icon.png|32px|link=]] Headquarters

! [[File:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drones

! [[File:Icon bastion.png|32px|link=]] Marauders

| ~ 37 days and 9 hours

| ~ 25 days and 13 hours

| ~ 9 days and 17 hours

| ~ 93 days and 14 hours

Evasive Maneuvering V<br>

Spaceship Command V<br>

Surgical Strike IV<br>

Biology V

EM Armor Compensation IV<br>

Thermal Armor Compensation IV<br>

High Speed Maneuvering IV<br>

Micro Jump Drive Operation III

Motion Prediction V<br>

Large <racial> Turret V<br>

{{co|grey|Sharpshooter V}}<small>&nbsp;<ref name="long">{{co|crimson|Optional}} - Consider spending an additional '''9 days and 19 hours''' training into the long range specialization as well</ref></small><br>

{{co|grey|Large <long> Specialization III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="long"></ref></small>}}<br>

Electronic Warfare III<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Electronic Warfare|III}} is needed for {{sk|Frequency Modulation}} and {{sk|Long Distance Jamming}}.</ref></small><br>

Frequency Modulation III<br>

Capacitor Emission Systems IV<br>

Thermodynamics III

Light Drone Operation V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="t2lights">Training {{sk|Light Drone Operation|V}} unlocks T2 drones, which deal slightly more damage (with levels in {{sk|Amarr Drone Specialization}} for Acolytes) and cost several times less than faction versions.</ref></small><br>

Amarr Drone Specialization II<small>&nbsp;<ref name="t2lights"></ref></small><br>

Drone Interfacing IV<br>

Heavy Drone Operation III<small>&nbsp;<ref> - While heavy drones are not used in Vanguards, they see common use in Headquarters fleets. HQ groups will generally require pilots of Vindicators and Kronii to use heavy drones.</ref></small>

<racial> Battleship V<br>

Advanced Weapon Upgrades V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="marauder"></ref></small><br>

Marauders IV<br>

*<u>Corporate Skill Plan link</u>: <url=skillPlan:74618cda-a6b1-4e63-90e0-58c7f3859249:917701062>EUni - Incursion Community Minimum Logi Skillplan</url>

<br>

! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Core skills

! [[file:icon_cog.png|32px|link=]] Utility skills

! [[file:icon_ship.png|32px|link=]] Ship skills

! [[File:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills

| ~ 22 days and 1 hours

| ~ 20 days and 21 hours

| ~ 32 days and 8 hours

| ~ 5 days and 14 hours

Capacitor Management IV<br>

Capacitor Systems Operation IV<br>

Explosive Armor Compensation IV<br>

Hull Upgrades V<br>

Signature Analysis V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="logistics">{{sk|Signature Analysis|V}} and {{sk|Long Range Targeting|V}} are requirements for the {{sk|Logistics Cruisers}} skill.</ref></small><br>

Long Range Targeting V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="logistics"></ref></small><br>

Target Management V<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Target Management|V}} is a requirement for the {{sk|Advanced Target Management}} skill.</ref></small><br>

Advanced Target Management III

Remote Armor Repair Systems IV<br>

Sensor Linking IV

Gallente Frigate III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="racial">'''Gallente Frigate III''' is a starter skill for Gallente characters.</ref></small><br>

Gallente Destroyer III<br>

Evasive Maneuvering III<br>

Warp Drive Operation III

Drones V<br>

Drone Durability I<small>&nbsp;<ref name="logibots">{{sk|Drone Durability|I}} and {{sk|Repair Drone Operation|II}} are required to use '''armor maintenance bots'''.</ref></small><br>

Drone Avionics III<br>

{{co|grey|Remote Armor Repair Systems III}}<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Remote Armor Repair Systems|IV}} is already trained as a requirement for the '''Remote Armor Repairer II''' module.</ref></small>

| colspan=5 | ~ 85 days and 10 hours worth of training {{co|grey|(~ 4,2 million skillpoints)}}

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=== Skill Plan ===  

{{SkillQueue

|name=INC Armor Logi Skillplan

Since the minimum skills only gets you so far, it's important to continue training into the '''recommended logistics fit''' for [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Logistics|logistics]].

! [[file:icon_ship_dark.png|32px|link=]] Advanced<small>&nbsp;<ref>This assumes you've already trained the skills listed under '''recommended'''.</ref></small>

! [[image:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills

| ~ 55 days and 3 hours

| ~ 15 days and 9 hours

Power Grid Management V<br>

Capacitor Systems Operation V<br>

Remote Armor Repair Systems V<br>

Capacitor Management V

Repair Drone Operation V

|}

=== Skill List ===

Listed below are the recommended skills above compiled into a list. It can be copied into your skill queue to train or create a skill plan from. The skills are ordered alphabetically, but feel free to move them around as you see fit.

  Power Grid Management V

  Capacitor Systems Operation V

<br>

! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Core skills

! [[file:icon_cog.png|32px|link=]] Utility skills

! [[File:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills

! [[file:icon_shield_transporter_i.png|32px|link=]] Logibooster skills

| ~ 21 days and 12 hours

| ~ 12 days and 9 hours

| ~ 12 days and 9 hours

| ~ 10 days and 10 hours

CPU Management V<br>

EM Armor Compensation IV<br>

Explosive Armor Compensation IV<br>

Hull Upgrades V

Signature Analysis V<br>

Long Range Targeting IV<br>

Target Management IV<br>

Advanced Target Management III

Gallente Frigate III<br>

Gallente Destroyer III<br>

Warp Drive Operation III<br>

Evasive Maneuvering III<br>

Cybernetics V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="mindlink">{{sk|Cybernetics|V}}, {{sk|Armored Command Specialist|V}} and {{sk|Skirmish Command Specialist|V}} are needed for the {{co|coral|Federation Navy Command Mindlink}} implant.</ref></small><br>

Armored Command V<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Armored Command|V}} is a requirement for {{sk|Armored Command Specialist}}.</ref></small><br>

{{co|grey|Command Burst Specialist IV}}<small>&nbsp;<ref name="command2"></ref></small><br>

{{co|grey|Wing Command IV}}<small>&nbsp;<ref name="command2"></ref></small><br>

Drones V<br>

Light Drone Operation V<br>

Drone Sharpshooting III<br>

Drone Avionics III

Remote Armor Repair Systems IV<br>

Capacitor Management IV<br>

Drone Durability I<ref name="logibots">{{sk|Drone Durability|I}} and {{sk|Repair Drone Operation|II}} are required to use '''armor maintenance bots'''.</ref><br>

Repair Drone Operation II<ref name="logibots"></ref>

| colspan=7 | ~ 209 days, 22 hours worth of training {{co|grey|(~ 10.3 million skillpoints)}}

|}

=== Skill Plan ===

Listed below is a skill plan for boosting. It can be copied into your skill queue to train. The skills are not ordered in any particular way, so feel free to move them around as you see fit.

Below are various levels of training needed for different type of tanking capabilities. As a minimum, the '''Hull tanking''' and '''Ship skills''' is enough to fit a {{co|coral|Damage Control II}} and {{co|coral|Reinforced Bulkhead II}} modules for a solid 130 - 150k+ effective hit points buffer on a regular tech one battleship. If you train the '''Additional race''' as well, the alt could move a pirate faction battleship. The extra shield skills would allow you to upgrade the meta shield modules to tech two for a little bit more tank as well.

! [[file:icon_hull.png|32px|link=]] Hull tanking

! [[file:icon_ship.png|32px|link=]] Ship skills

! [[File:icon_ship_other.png|32px|link=]] {{co|grey|Additional race}}<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{co|crimson|Optional}} - If you need your alt to be able to move a pirate faction battleship (since they require two racial ship skills).</ref></small>

! [[file:icon_shield_glow.png|32px|link=]] {{co|grey|Shield tanking}}<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{co|crimson|Optional}} - Increasing the train to a handful of days means you can upgrade the shield tank and use the '''Large Shield Extender II''', '''EM Shield Amplifier II''' as well as the '''Multispectrum Shield Hardener II''' modules (or any of the active hardeners or passive amplifiers).</ref></small>

| ~ 1 day and 12 hours

| ~ 3 days and 5 hours

| {{co|grey|~ 2 days and 11 hours}}

| {{co|grey|~ 5 day and 11 hours}}

| style="padding:8px;" |

Hull Upgrades IV

{{co|grey|Shield Upgrades IV}}<br>

{{co|grey|Tactical Shield Manipulation IV}}

|}

<small><references/></small>

* [[Creating a Planetary Industry Alt]]