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* Easy to do during war: With a small investment in skills (Marketing, Procurement and Daytrading to level 2) you can easily station trade in one system while docked up in another, or use an alt to trade in other ways.

* Time-flexible: A lot of trading happens while docked up, and it's easy to go AFK with no real danger most of the time. While this isn't true during hauling, good hauls tend to be fairly short and you can always dock up halfway through.

* Scalable. With more money you can invest in more items making you more money.

* Scalable: With more money you can invest in more items making you more money.

== Skills ==

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* Skills that increase maximum number of active orders orders: Trade, Retail, Wholesale, Tycoon.

* Skills that allow you to buy and sell things remotely: Marketing, Procurement, Daytrading, Visibility.

* Skills that reduce trading overhead: Accounting, Broker Relations, Advanced Broker Relations

* Skills that reduce trading overhead: Accounting, Broker Relations, Advanced Broker Relations.

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== Taxes ==

Any time the market is used there are [[tax]]es <ref>[https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/restructuring-taxes-after-relief Restructuring Taxes After Relief][2021-10-19] For older tax changes see "A long, long time ago..." elsewhere on this page.</ref> that need to be paid. There are three different taxes: ~~Broker~~'s fee~~, sales tax~~ and relist fee.

Any time the market is used there are [[tax]]es <ref>[https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/restructuring-taxes-after-relief Restructuring Taxes After Relief][2021-10-19] For older tax changes see "A long, long time ago..." elsewhere on this page.</ref> that need to be paid. There are three different taxes: sales tax, broker's fee and relist fee.

A station trader with zero standings will pay between 5.1% (at max skills) and 11% of the order price as fees/taxes. This is important to take into account when calculating your profit, but of course the standings can change that further. With max skills and max standings a station trader will pay 4.6% of the order price as fees/taxes.

=== Sales tax ===

When an item is sold on the market the seller will also pay sales tax. The base sales tax is 7.5%<ref>Patch Notes: [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-22-02 Version 22.02] Release 2025-03-12.1. Sales Tax has been increased from 4% to 7.5%.</ref> and is reduced by 11% per level in {{Sk|Accounting}} (3.37% at max skills). The sales tax shows up in the wallet as transaction tax.

: <math> \displaystyle

\text{Sales tax }\% = 7.5\% * (1-(11\% \times \text{Accounting level}))

</math>

Sales tax is always paid to NPC corporation Secure Commerce Commission (SCC).

{{expansion past|width= 45%

|

'''Version 22.02 release 2025-03-12.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-22-02 Patch Notes]

* Sales Tax has been increased from 4% to 7.5%

'''Version 22.01 release 2024-07-25.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-22-01 Patch notes]

* Marketplace taxes reduced to 4.5%. Down from 8%. (No mention of duration)

'''Version 19-09 release 2021-10-19.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-19-09#2021-10-19.1 Patch notes]

Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed:

* Maximum Sales Tax increased from 2.5% to 8%

* Maximum Brokers Fee increased from 2.5% to 3%

'''Version 19-05 release 2021-07-21''' ''The Grand Heist'' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/the-grand-heist-now-live EVE news]

Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed. For three months Sales Tax and Brokers Fee's were cut in half as part of the "Grand Heist" release.

* Maximum Sales Tax decreased from 5% to 2.5%

* Maximum Brokers Fee decreased from 5% to 2.5%

* Relist fee discount increased from 5% to 6%

'''March 2020 release''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-for-march-2020-release Patch notes][https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/broker-relations Devblog]

Relist fee added.

'''August 2019 release 2019-08-01.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/article/ptgdti/patch-notes-for-june-2019-release Patch notes][https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/updates-to-sales-taxes-and-brokers-fees Devblog]

Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed:

* Maximum Sales Tax increased from 2% to 5%

* Maximum Brokers Fee increase for NPC stations from 3% to 5%

Tax associated skills have been changed:

* {{Sk|Accounting}} – Increase in reduction of sales tax from 10% per level to 11% per level

* {{Sk|Broker Relations}} – Increase in reduction of costs associated with setting up a market order from 0.1% per level to 0.3% per level

}}

=== Broker's fee ===

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The equation for the NPC broker's fee percentage is<ref>EVE help center: [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203218962-Broker-Fee-and-Sales-Tax Broker Fee and Sales Tax]</ref>

: <math>

\displaystyle \text{Broker's fee %} = 3\% - 0.3\% \times \text{Broker Relations level} - 0.03\% \times \text{faction standing} - 0.02\% \times \text{corporation standing}

\displaystyle \text{Broker's fee }\% = 3\% - 0.3\% \times \text{Broker Relations level} - 0.03\% \times \text{faction standing} - 0.02\% \times \text{corporation standing}

</math>

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In player owned [[Upwell structure]] markets the broker's fee is a fixed SCC surcharge of 0.5% plus a percentage set by the structure owner and is not affected by any skills. The owner may set different fees for different standing levels. The minimum owner fee is 0% <ref>Patch notes: [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-21-05 Version 21.05] Release 2023-06-21.1</ref>. The minimum broker fee is 100 ISK.

: <math>

\displaystyle \text{Broker's fee %} = 0.5\% + \text{Owner %}

\displaystyle \text{Broker's fee }\% = 0.5\% + \text{Owner }\%

</math>

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Leading to a broker's fee of:

: <math>

\text{Broker's fee} = \text{Market order value} \times \text{Broker's fee %}

\text{Broker's fee} = \text{Market order value} \times \text{Broker's fee }\%

</math>

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: <math>

\text{Relist fee} = ( 100\% - ( 50\% + 6\% \times \text{Advanced Broker Relations level} ) ) \times \text{Broker's fee %} \times \text{New order value} + \text{Broker's fee%} \times \max ( \text{New order value} - \text{Old order value}, 0)

\text{Relist fee} = ( 100\% - ( 50\% + 6\% \times \text{Advanced Broker Relations level} ) ) \times \text{Broker's fee }\% \times \text{New order value} + \text{Broker's fee }\% \times \max ( \text{New order value} - \text{Old order value}, 0)

</math>

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Examples:

You have a sell order for 13,000x tritanium at 6.00 ISK each.

{{Example

|You have a sell order for 13,000x tritanium at 6.00 ISK each.

You have already sold 3,000x tritanium so there are 10,000x tritanium left in the order. For total order value of 60,000 ISK.

You increase the price to 7.00 ISK each. The new total order value becomes 70,000 ISK.

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: <math> \displaystyle 342.16 + 188.00 = 530.16 \text{ ISK} </math>

}}

You have a sell order for 13,000x tritanium at 6.00 ISK each.

{{Example

|You have a sell order for 13,000x tritanium at 6.00 ISK each.

You have already sold 3,000x tritanium so there are 10,000x tritanium left in the order. For total order value of 60,000 ISK.

You decrease the price to 5.00 ISK each. The new total order value becomes 50,000 ISK.

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: <math> \displaystyle 244.40 + 0 = 244.40 \text{ ISK} </math>

}}

In some cases it can cost more to modify an old order than it costs to take it down and set up a new order.

You are trading in a structure with 1% broker's fee(0.5% SCC surcharge + 0.5% owners percentage). Your Advanced Broker Relations level is 0.

{{Example

|You are trading in a player structure with 1% broker's fee(0.5% SCC surcharge + 0.5% owners percentage). Your Advanced Broker Relations level is 0.

You have a buy order for 1,000x item A for 1k ISK each. For an order value of 1,000,000 ISK

you update the order to 10k ISK each. For an order value of 10,000,000 ISK

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: <math> \displaystyle 50,000 + 90,000 = 140,000 \text{ ISK}</math>

Broker fee ~~(Player structure)~~:

Broker fee:

: <math> \displaystyle 1\% \times 10,000,000 </math>

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You will need to pay 140k ISK relist fee.

If you just create new order you need to pay 100k ISK broker's fee.

If you just create a new order you need to pay 100k ISK broker's fee.

~~=== Sales tax ===~~

~~When an item is sold on the market the seller will also pay sales tax. The base transaction tax is 8% and is reduced by 11% per level in {{sk|Accounting}} (3.6% at max skills).~~

~~: <math> \displaystyle~~

~~\text{Sales tax %} = 8\% * (1-(11\% \times \text{Accounting level}))~~

~~</math>~~

~~Sales tax is always paid to NPC corporation Secure Commerce Commission (SCC).~~

~~{{expansion past|width=45%~~

|

~~'''Version 19-09 release 2021-10-19.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-19-09#2021-10-19.1 Patch notes]~~

~~Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed:~~

* Maximum Sales Tax increased from 2.5% to 8%

* Maximum Brokers Fee increased from 2.5% to 3%

~~'''Version 19-05 release 2021-07-21''' ''The Grand Heist'' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/the-grand-heist-now-live EVE news]~~

~~Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed. For three months Sales Tax and Brokers Fee's were cut in half as part of the "Grand Heist" release.~~

* Maximum Sales Tax decreased from 5% to 2.5%

* Maximum Brokers Fee decreased from 5% to 2.5%

* Relist fee discount increased from 5% to 6%

~~'''March 2020 release''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-for-march-2020-release Patch notes][https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/broker-relations Devblog]~~

~~Relist fee added.~~

'''August 2019 release 2019-08-01.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/article/ptgdti/patch-notes-for-june-2019-release Patch notes][https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/updates-to-sales-taxes-and-brokers-fees Devblog]

~~Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed:~~

* Maximum Sales Tax increased from 2% to 5%

* Maximum Brokers Fee increase for NPC stations from 3% to 5%

~~Tax associated skills have been changed:~~

* {{Sk|Accounting}} – Increase in reduction of sales tax from 10% per level to 11% per level

* {{Sk|Broker Relations}} – Increase in reduction of costs associated with setting up a market order from 0.1% per level to 0.3% per level

}}

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There is an incredibly simple 3-step plan for finding good trading items:

# Click on a market category, and start looking at the orders and market details for each item

# Click on a market category, and start looking at the orders and market details for each item.

# Switch to another category, and keep looking at each item.

# Look at items some more.

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You should be able to look at a graph in 5 minutes and say if it's a good buy or sell for you if you're buying and selling short term. The only trick to using something is it must be straight. If worst comes to worst you can press print screen, paste the image into paint and make the trend line there but if you do this you will lose some valuable time.

Because there is so much information already out there [https://stockcharts.com/~~school~~/~~doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:trend_lines~~ here is a link that gets in detail on what you should do to make and read a trend line.]

Because there is so much information already out there [https://chartschool.stockcharts.com/table-of-contents/chart-analysis/trend-lines here is a link that gets in detail on what you should do to make and read a trend line.]

Lastly here is another [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=~~5v72zMtO3Mk~~ video that shows you how the trend line works on line graphs.]

Lastly here is another [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMkBbnSLUvo video that shows you how the trend line works on line graphs.]

== References ==

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 * Easy to do during war: With a small investment in skills (Marketing, Procurement and Daytrading to level 2) you can easily station trade in one system while docked up in another, or use an alt to trade in other ways.
 * Time-flexible: A lot of trading happens while docked up, and it's easy to go AFK with no real danger most of the time. While this isn't true during hauling, good hauls tend to be fairly short and you can always dock up halfway through.
-* Scalable. With more money you can invest in more items making you more money.
+* Scalable: With more money you can invest in more items making you more money.
 == Skills ==
@@ Line 17: / Line 17: @@
 * Skills that increase maximum number of active orders orders: Trade, Retail, Wholesale, Tycoon.
 * Skills that allow you to buy and sell things remotely: Marketing, Procurement, Daytrading, Visibility.
-* Skills that reduce trading overhead: Accounting, Broker Relations, Advanced Broker Relations
+* Skills that reduce trading overhead: Accounting, Broker Relations, Advanced Broker Relations.
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 == Taxes ==
-Any time the market is used there are [[tax]]es <ref>[https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/restructuring-taxes-after-relief Restructuring Taxes After Relief][2021-10-19] For older tax changes see "A long, long time ago..." elsewhere on this page.</ref> that need to be paid. There are three different taxes: Broker's fee, sales tax and relist fee.
+Any time the market is used there are [[tax]]es <ref>[https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/restructuring-taxes-after-relief Restructuring Taxes After Relief][2021-10-19] For older tax changes see "A long, long time ago..." elsewhere on this page.</ref> that need to be paid. There are three different taxes: sales tax, broker's fee and relist fee.
 A station trader with zero standings will pay between 5.1% (at max skills) and 11% of the order price as fees/taxes. This is important to take into account when calculating your profit, but of course the standings can change that further. With max skills and max standings a station trader will pay 4.6% of the order price as fees/taxes.
+=== Sales tax ===
+When an item is sold on the market the seller will also pay sales tax. The base sales tax is 7.5%<ref>Patch Notes: [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-22-02 Version 22.02] Release 2025-03-12.1. Sales Tax has been increased from 4% to 7.5%.</ref> and is reduced by 11% per level in {{Sk|Accounting}} (3.37% at max skills). The sales tax shows up in the wallet as transaction tax.
+: <math> \displaystyle
+\text{Sales tax }\% = 7.5\% * (1-(11\% \times \text{Accounting level}))
+</math>
+Sales tax is always paid to NPC corporation Secure Commerce Commission (SCC).
+{{expansion past|width= 45%
+|
+'''Version 22.02 release 2025-03-12.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-22-02 Patch Notes]
+* Sales Tax has been increased from 4% to 7.5%
+'''Version 22.01 release 2024-07-25.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-22-01 Patch notes]
+* Marketplace taxes reduced to 4.5%. Down from 8%. (No mention of duration)
+'''Version 19-09 release 2021-10-19.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-19-09#2021-10-19.1 Patch notes]
+Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed:
+* Maximum Sales Tax increased from 2.5% to 8%
+* Maximum Brokers Fee increased from 2.5% to 3%
+'''Version 19-05 release 2021-07-21''' ''The Grand Heist'' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/the-grand-heist-now-live EVE news]
+Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed. For three months Sales Tax and Brokers Fee's were cut in half as part of the "Grand Heist" release.
+* Maximum Sales Tax decreased from 5% to 2.5%
+* Maximum Brokers Fee decreased from 5% to 2.5%
+* Relist fee discount increased from 5% to 6%
+'''March 2020 release''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-for-march-2020-release Patch notes][https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/broker-relations Devblog]
+Relist fee added.
+'''August 2019 release 2019-08-01.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/article/ptgdti/patch-notes-for-june-2019-release Patch notes][https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/updates-to-sales-taxes-and-brokers-fees Devblog]
+Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed:
+* Maximum Sales Tax increased from 2% to 5%
+* Maximum Brokers Fee increase for NPC stations from 3% to 5%
+Tax associated skills have been changed:
+* {{Sk|Accounting}} – Increase in reduction of sales tax from 10% per level to 11% per level
+* {{Sk|Broker Relations}} – Increase in reduction of costs associated with setting up a market order from 0.1% per level to 0.3% per level
+}}
 === Broker's fee ===
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 The equation for the NPC broker's fee percentage is<ref>EVE help center: [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203218962-Broker-Fee-and-Sales-Tax Broker Fee and Sales Tax]</ref>
 : <math>
-\displaystyle \text{Broker's fee %} = 3\% - 0.3\% \times \text{Broker Relations level} - 0.03\% \times \text{faction standing} - 0.02\% \times \text{corporation standing}
+\displaystyle \text{Broker's fee }\% = 3\% - 0.3\% \times \text{Broker Relations level} - 0.03\% \times \text{faction standing} - 0.02\% \times \text{corporation standing}
 </math>
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 In player owned [[Upwell structure]] markets the broker's fee is a fixed SCC surcharge of 0.5% plus a percentage set by the structure owner and is not affected by any skills. The owner may set different fees for different standing levels. The minimum owner fee is 0% <ref>Patch notes: [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-21-05 Version 21.05] Release 2023-06-21.1</ref>. The minimum broker fee is 100 ISK.
 : <math>
-\displaystyle \text{Broker's fee %} = 0.5\% + \text{Owner %}
+\displaystyle \text{Broker's fee }\% = 0.5\% + \text{Owner }\%
 </math>
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 Leading to a broker's fee of:
 : <math>
-\text{Broker's fee} = \text{Market order value} \times \text{Broker's fee %}
+\text{Broker's fee} = \text{Market order value} \times \text{Broker's fee }\%
 </math>
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 : <math>
-\text{Relist fee} = ( 100\% - ( 50\% + 6\% \times \text{Advanced Broker Relations level} ) ) \times \text{Broker's fee %} \times \text{New order value} + \text{Broker's fee%} \times \max ( \text{New order value} - \text{Old order value}, 0)
+\text{Relist fee} = ( 100\% - ( 50\% + 6\% \times \text{Advanced Broker Relations level} ) ) \times \text{Broker's fee }\% \times \text{New order value} + \text{Broker's fee }\% \times \max ( \text{New order value} - \text{Old order value}, 0)
 </math>
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 Examples:
-You have a sell order for 13,000x tritanium at 6.00 ISK each.<br>
+{{Example
+|You have a sell order for 13,000x tritanium at 6.00 ISK each.<br>
 You have already sold 3,000x tritanium so there are 10,000x tritanium left in the order. For total order value of 60,000 ISK.<br>
 You increase the price to 7.00 ISK each. The new total order value becomes 70,000 ISK.<br>
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 : <math> \displaystyle 342.16 + 188.00 = 530.16 \text{ ISK} </math>
+}}
-You have a sell order for 13,000x tritanium at 6.00 ISK each.<br>
+{{Example
+|You have a sell order for 13,000x tritanium at 6.00 ISK each.<br>
 You have already sold 3,000x tritanium so there are 10,000x tritanium left in the order. For total order value of 60,000 ISK.<br>
 You decrease the price to 5.00 ISK each. The new total order value becomes 50,000 ISK.<br>
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 : <math> \displaystyle 244.40 + 0 = 244.40 \text{ ISK} </math>
+}}
 In some cases it can cost more to modify an old order than it costs to take it down and set up a new order.
-You are trading in a structure with 1% broker's fee(0.5% SCC surcharge + 0.5% owners percentage). Your Advanced Broker Relations level is 0.
+{{Example
+|You are trading in a player structure with 1% broker's fee(0.5% SCC surcharge + 0.5% owners percentage). Your Advanced Broker Relations level is 0.
 You have a buy order for 1,000x item A for 1k ISK each. For an order value of 1,000,000 ISK<br>
 you update the order to 10k ISK each. For an order value of 10,000,000 ISK<br>
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 : <math>  \displaystyle 50,000 + 90,000 = 140,000 \text{ ISK}</math>
-Broker fee (Player structure):
+Broker fee:
 : <math> \displaystyle 1\% \times 10,000,000 </math>
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 You will need to pay 140k ISK relist fee.<br>
-If you just create new order you need to pay 100k ISK broker's fee.
+If you just create a new order you need to pay 100k ISK broker's fee.
-=== Sales tax ===
-When an item is sold on the market the seller will also pay sales tax. The base transaction tax is 8% and is reduced by 11% per level in {{sk|Accounting}} (3.6% at max skills).
-: <math> \displaystyle
-\text{Sales tax %} = 8\% * (1-(11\% \times \text{Accounting level}))
-</math>
-Sales tax is always paid to NPC corporation Secure Commerce Commission (SCC).
-{{expansion past|width=45%
-|
-'''Version 19-09 release 2021-10-19.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-version-19-09#2021-10-19.1 Patch notes]
-Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed:
-* Maximum Sales Tax increased from 2.5% to 8%
-* Maximum Brokers Fee increased from 2.5% to 3%
-'''Version 19-05 release 2021-07-21''' ''The Grand Heist'' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/the-grand-heist-now-live EVE news]
-Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed. For three months Sales Tax and Brokers Fee's were cut in half as part of the "Grand Heist" release.
-* Maximum Sales Tax decreased from 5% to 2.5%
-* Maximum Brokers Fee decreased from 5% to 2.5%
-* Relist fee discount increased from 5% to 6%
-'''March 2020 release''' [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/patch-notes-for-march-2020-release Patch notes][https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/broker-relations Devblog]
-Relist fee added.
-'''August 2019 release 2019-08-01.1''' [https://www.eveonline.com/article/ptgdti/patch-notes-for-june-2019-release Patch notes][https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/updates-to-sales-taxes-and-brokers-fees Devblog]
-Market sales taxes and broker fees have changed:
-* Maximum Sales Tax increased from 2% to 5%
-* Maximum Brokers Fee increase for NPC stations from 3% to 5%
-Tax associated skills have been changed:
-* {{Sk|Accounting}} – Increase in reduction of sales tax from 10% per level to 11% per level
-* {{Sk|Broker Relations}} – Increase in reduction of costs associated with setting up a market order from 0.1% per level to 0.3% per level
 }}
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 There is an incredibly simple 3-step plan for finding good trading items:
-# Click on a market category, and start looking at the orders and market details for each item
+# Click on a market category, and start looking at the orders and market details for each item.
 # Switch to another category, and keep looking at each item.
 # Look at items some more.
@@ Line 252: / Line 262: @@
 You should be able to look at a graph in 5 minutes and say if it's a good buy or sell for you if you're buying and selling short term. The only trick to using something is it must be straight. If worst comes to worst you can press print screen, paste the image into paint and make the trend line there but if you do this you will lose some valuable time.
-Because there is so much information already out there [https://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:trend_lines here is a link that gets in detail on what you should do to make and read a trend line.]
+Because there is so much information already out there [https://chartschool.stockcharts.com/table-of-contents/chart-analysis/trend-lines here is a link that gets in detail on what you should do to make and read a trend line.]
-Lastly here is another [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v72zMtO3Mk video that shows you how the trend line works on line graphs.]
+Lastly here is another [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMkBbnSLUvo video that shows you how the trend line works on line graphs.]
 == References ==