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== Introduction ==
  
==Introduction==
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It seems to be a more or less well accepted fact that the certificate system in EvE Online is less than entirely useful as it currently stands. Articles tend to stress relatively complicated ways of approaching what skills to train. Long descriptions of the skills and how they interrelate are quite important to undersand, but for the beginning pilot, they tend to overwhelm.  
It seems to be a more or less well accepted fact that the certificate system in EvE Online is less than entirely useful as it currently stands. Articles tend to stress relatively complicated ways of approaching what skills to train. Long descriptions of the skills and how they interrelate are quite important to undersand, but for the beginning pilot, they tend to overwhelm.
 
  
The game has a system that can help simplify the decision as to what skills you train by allowing you to focus not on the individual skills so much as the underlying foundations of what pilots end up doing in New Eden. This is the certificate system.
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The game has a system that can help simplify the decision as to what skills you train by allowing you to focus not on the individual skills so much as the underlying foundations of what pilots end up doing in New Eden. This is the certificate system.  
  
But this too can be overwhelming to the new pilot. Because the game does not demand a certain progression or dictate roles and goals, the pilot is more or less left to her own devices. When she looks at the certificates, to choose wisely, she needs to know more or less what she wants to be when she grows up.
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But this too can be overwhelming to the new pilot. Because the game does not demand a certain progression or dictate roles and goals, the pilot is more or less left to her own devices. When she looks at the certificates, to choose wisely, she needs to know more or less what she wants to be when she grows up.  
  
This article explains and details the certificate system, explains how to use it to plan your training, and briefly argues why you should use the certificate system, at least in the beginning.
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This article explains and details the certificate system, explains how to use it to plan your training, and briefly argues why you should use the certificate system, at least in the beginning.  
  
==Careers v. Professions v. Jobs/Activities==
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== Careers v. Professions v. Jobs ==
A career and a profession are clearly not the same thing and both of these are different than a job. One way to look at it is to see professions as skill sets and careers as the sets of activities you perform with those skill sets. Jobs would then be specific activities themselves. A real world example is the distinctions between lawyer, public administration, and running a  Being a lawyer is being a member of a profession, but administering non-profit organisations is a career which people from many different professions can pursue.
 
  
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A career and a profession are clearly not the same thing and both of these are different than a job. One way to look at it is to see professions as skill sets and careers as the sets of activities you perform with those skill sets. Jobs would then be specific activities themselves. A real world example is the distinctions between lawyer, public administration, and running a Being a lawyer is being a member of a profession, but administering non-profit organisations is a career which people from many different professions can pursue.<br> The certificate system, in my view, should be seen as a helper on the professions side of this picture, while the detailed understanding of the skills trees should be seen as the career side. Specific jobs may require specfic skilsl that either fall out of the scope of a certificate or fall under what seems to be an entirely unrelated certificate. Useful metaphors might be the distinction between law school (where you learn what the law is) and the training you get in a law firm (where you learn how to practice the law) and the sort of courses requried to achieve the certificates/diplomas that technical schools/colleges award and the training offered by a specific technical company for a specfic job.&nbsp;<br>
  
The certificate system, in my view, should be seen as the professions side of this picture, while the detailed understanding of the skills trees should be seen as the career side. Another useful metaphor might be the distinction between law school (where you learn what the law is) and the training you get in a law form (where you learn how to practice the law).
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=== Careers ===
  
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EVE Careers Guide
  
===Careers===
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http://www.eveonline.com/careerguide/
EVE Careers Guide
 
  
http://www.eveonline.com/careerguide/
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=== Professions ===
  
===Professions===
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=== Jobs ===
  
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== Getting Started in the Professions ==
  
===Jobs===
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Seeing as this guide is about certificates and professions, let's look at those now.
  
==Getting Started in the Professions==
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The certificate system allows you to train into six 'starter' professions in three broad classes: business, industry, and the military.  
The certificate system allows you to train into six 'starter' professions in three broad classes: business, industry, and the military.
 
  
==The 'Starter' Professions==
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== The 'Starter' Professions ==
  
 
It is a misnomer to call these professions 'starter'. A better word would be 'main' or 'core'. There are quite a few more skill sets we should be calling 'professions' than these.  
 
It is a misnomer to call these professions 'starter'. A better word would be 'main' or 'core'. There are quite a few more skill sets we should be calling 'professions' than these.  
  
Each of the starter professions have racial variants, but only the racial frigate skill is different between them. Each certificate has four grades: basic, standard, improved, elite
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Each of the starter professions have racial variants, but only the racial frigate skill is different between them. Each certificate has four grades: basic, standard, improved, elite  
  
*[[ Business - Entrepreneur]]
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*[[Business - Entrepreneur]]  
*[[ Business - Executive Commander]]
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*[[Business - Executive Commander]]
  
*[[ Industry - Engineer]]
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*[[Industry - Engineer]]  
*[[ Industry - Prospector]]
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*[[Industry - Prospector]]
  
*[[ Military - Soldier]]
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*[[Military - Soldier]]  
*[[ Military - Special Forces]]
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*[[Military - Special Forces]]
  
==Advanced Professions==
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== Advanced Professions ==
  
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== Supplementary Reading ==
  
==Certificates (by group)==
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Basic Information http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Certificates  
===Business and Industry===
 
  
*Business Mogul - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
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DevBlog Chat http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&amp;nbid=1678
*Business Tycoon - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Field Technician - [[Basic]] Standard [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Production Intern - Basic [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Production Manager - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Research Manager - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Technical Specialist - Basic [[Standard]] Improved [[Elite]]
 
  
===Core===
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EVEMon http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&amp;threadID=1467427
  
*Core Capacitor - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] Improved [[Elite]]
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Mac Eve Tools https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&amp;t=10200
*Core Competency - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] Improved [[Elite]]
 
*Core Fitting - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Core Integrity - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] Improved [[Elite]]
 
*Core Navigation - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Core Targeting - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] Improved [[Elite]]
 
  
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ISK: the guide http://www.isktheguide.com/
  
Defence
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[[Category:Certficates]] [[Category:Getting_Started]] [[Category:Skills]]
Basic
 
Active Shield Tanking - Basic
 
Armor Reinforcement - Basic
 
Armor Tanking - Basic
 
Logistics Chief - Basic
 
Passive Shield Tanking - Basic
 
Shield Reinforcement - Basic
 
 
 
Standard
 
Active Shield Tanking - Standard
 
Armor Reinforcement - Standard
 
Armor Tanking - Standard
 
Logistics Chief - Standard
 
Passive Shield Tanking - Standard
 
Shield Reinforcement - Standard
 
 
 
Improved
 
Active Shield Tanking - Improved
 
Armor Tanking - Improved
 
Passive Shield Tanking - Improved
 
 
 
Elite
 
Active Shield Tanking - Elite
 
Armor Reinforcement - Elite
 
Armor Tanking - Elite
 
Hull Tanking - Elite
 
Logistics Chief - Elite
 
Passive Shield Tanking - Elite
 
Shield Reinforcement - Elite
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Drones
 
Basic
 
Combat Drone Control - Basic
 
Drone Control - Basic
 
Heavy Drone Control - Basic
 
Specialist Drone Operator - Basic
 
 
 
Standard
 
Combat Drone Control - Standard
 
Drone Control - Standard
 
Heavy Drone Control - Standard
 
Specialist Drone Operator - Standard
 
 
 
Improved
 
Combat Drone Control - Improved
 
Drone Control - Improved
 
Heavy Drone Control - Improved
 
 
 
Elite
 
Combat Drone Control - Elite
 
Drone Control - Elite
 
Elite Drone Operator - Elite
 
Heavy Drone Control - Elite
 
Specialist Drone Operator - Elite
 
 
 
 
 
Electronic Warfare
 
 
 
Basic
 
Cloak Operator - Basic
 
ECM Operator - Basic
 
EWAR Operator - Basic
 
Propulsion Jammer Operator - Basic
 
Sensor Dampener Operator - Basic
 
Target Painter Operator - Basic
 
Target Disruptor Operator - Basic
 
 
 
Standard
 
Cloak Operator - Standard
 
ECM Operator - Standard
 
EWAR Operator - Standard
 
Interdiction Maneuvers Standard
 
Propulsion Jammer Operator - Standard
 
Sensor Dampener Operator - Standard
 
Target Painter Operator - Standard
 
Target Disruptor Operator - Standard
 
Improved
 
Interdiction Maneuvers Improved
 
 
 
Elite
 
Cloak Operator - Elite
 
ECM Operator - Elite
 
EWAR Operator - Elite
 
Propulsion Jammer Operator - Elite
 
Sensor Dampener Operator - Elite
 
Target Painter Operator - Elite
 
Target Disruptor Operator - Elite
 
 
 
 
 
Gunnery
 
Basic
 
Battleship Energy Turretss - Basic
 
Battleship Hybrid Turrets - Basic
 
Battleship Projectile Turrets - Basic
 
Cruiser Energy Turrets - Basic
 
Cruiser Hybrid Turrets - Basic
 
Cruiser Projectile Turrets - Basic
 
Frigate Energy Turrets - Basic
 
Frigate Hybrid Turrets - Basic
 
Frigate Projectile Turrets - Basic
 
Turret Control - Basic
 
 
 
Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Artillery Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Beam Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Blaster Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Pulse Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Rail Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Energy Turretss - Standard
 
Battleship Hybrid Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Projectile Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Artillery Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Beam Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Blaster Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Pulse Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Rail Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Energy Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Hybrid Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Projectile Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Artillery Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Beam Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Blaster Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Pulse Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Rail Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Energy Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Hybrid Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Projectile Turrets - Standard
 
Turret Control - Standard
 
 
 
Improved
 
Turret Control - Improved
 
 
 
Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Artillery Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Beam Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Blaster Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Pulse Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Rail Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Energy Turretss - Elite
 
Battleship Hybrid Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Projectile Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Artillery Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Beam Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Blaster Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Pulse Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Rail Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Energy Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Hybrid Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Projectile Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Artillery Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Beam Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Blaster Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Pulse Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Rail Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Energy Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Hybrid Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Projectile Turrets - Elite
 
Turret Control - Elite
 
 
 
Harvesting
 
Basic
 
Common Ore Refiner - Basic
 
Rare Ore Refiner - Basic
 
Refinery Foreman - Basic
 
Resource Harvester - Basic
 
 
 
Standard
 
Common Ore Refiner - Standard
 
Ice Specialist - Standard
 
Mercoxit Specialist - Standard
 
Rare Ore Refiner - Standard
 
Refinery Foreman - Standard
 
Resource Harvester - Standard
 
 
 
Improved
 
Common Ore Refiner - Improved
 
Ice Specialist - Improved
 
Mercoxit Specialist - Improved
 
Rare Ore Refiner - Improved
 
Refinery Foreman - Improved
 
Resource Harvester - Improved
 
 
 
Elite
 
Common Ore Refiner - Elite
 
Ice Specialist - Elite
 
Mercoxit Specialist - Elite
 
Rare Ore Refiner - Elite
 
Refinery Foreman - Elite
 
Resource Harvester - Elite
 
 
 
Leadership
 
Basic
 
Battlespace Technician - Basic
 
Harvesting Comptroller - Basic
 
Tactical Commander - Basic
 
Unit Leader - Basic
 
 
 
Standard
 
Armored Warfare Chief - Standard
 
Battlespace Technician - Standard
 
Fleet Co-ordinator - Standard
 
Harvesting Comptroller - Standard
 
Information Warfare Chief - Standard
 
Siege Warfare Chief - Standard
 
Skirmish Warfare Chief - Standard
 
Tactical Commander - Standard
 
Unit Leader - Standard
 
 
 
Improved
 
Armored Warfare Chief - Improved
 
Battlespace Technician - Improved
 
Harvesting Comptroller - Improved
 
Information Warfare Chief - Improved
 
Siege Warfare Chief - Improved
 
Skirmish Warfare Chief - Improved
 
Tactical Commander - Improved
 
 
 
Elite
 
Armored Warfare Chief - Elite
 
Battlespace Technician - Elite
 
Fleet Co-ordinator - Elite
 
Harvesting Comptroller - Elite
 
Information Warfare Chief - Elite
 
Siege Warfare Chief - Elite
 
Skirmish Warfare Chief - Elite
 
Tactical Commander - Elite
 
Unit Leader - Elite
 
 
 
Missiles
 
Basic
 
Missile Control - Basic
 
Remote Demolitions - Basic
 
Frigate Launcher Control - Basic
 
Cruiser Launcher Control - Basic
 
Battleship Launcher Control - Basic
 
 
 
Standard
 
Missile Control - Standard
 
Frigate Launch Control - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Rocket Launchers - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Standard Launchers - Standard
 
Cruiser Launch Control - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Heavy Assault Launchers - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Heavy Launchers - Standard
 
Battleship Launcher Control - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Cruise Launchers - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Siege Launchers - Standard
 
Improved
 
Missile Control - Improved
 
 
 
Elite
 
Missile Control - Elite
 
Frigate Launch Control - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Rocket Launchers - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Standard Launchers - Elite
 
Cruiser Launch Control - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Heavy Assault Launchers - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Heavy Launchers - Elite
 
Battleship Launcher Control - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Cruise Launchers - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Siege Launchers - Elite
 
 
 
Navigation
 
Basic
 
Cartographer - Basic
 
High-Velocity Helmsman - Basic
 
Wormhole Generation - Basic
 
 
 
Standard
 
Cartographer - Standard
 
High-Velocity Helmsman - Standard
 
 
 
Improved
 
High-Velocity Helmsman - Improved
 
 
 
Elite
 
Cartographer - Elite
 
High-Velocity Helmsman - Elite
 
 
 
 
 
==Supplementary Reading==
 
Basic Information
 
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Certificates
 
 
 
DevBlog Chat
 
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=1678
 
 
 
EVEMon
 
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1467427
 
 
 
Mac Eve Tools
 
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10200
 
 
 
ISK: the guide
 
http://www.isktheguide.com/
 
 
 
[[Category:Certficates]]
 
[[Category:Getting Started]]
 
[[Category:Skills]]
 

Revision as of 18:27, 28 January 2012

This page is a work in progress. Please contact the original author before making changes.

Introduction

It seems to be a more or less well accepted fact that the certificate system in EvE Online is less than entirely useful as it currently stands. Articles tend to stress relatively complicated ways of approaching what skills to train. Long descriptions of the skills and how they interrelate are quite important to undersand, but for the beginning pilot, they tend to overwhelm.

The game has a system that can help simplify the decision as to what skills you train by allowing you to focus not on the individual skills so much as the underlying foundations of what pilots end up doing in New Eden. This is the certificate system.

But this too can be overwhelming to the new pilot. Because the game does not demand a certain progression or dictate roles and goals, the pilot is more or less left to her own devices. When she looks at the certificates, to choose wisely, she needs to know more or less what she wants to be when she grows up.

This article explains and details the certificate system, explains how to use it to plan your training, and briefly argues why you should use the certificate system, at least in the beginning.

Careers v. Professions v. Jobs

A career and a profession are clearly not the same thing and both of these are different than a job. One way to look at it is to see professions as skill sets and careers as the sets of activities you perform with those skill sets. Jobs would then be specific activities themselves. A real world example is the distinctions between lawyer, public administration, and running a Being a lawyer is being a member of a profession, but administering non-profit organisations is a career which people from many different professions can pursue.
The certificate system, in my view, should be seen as a helper on the professions side of this picture, while the detailed understanding of the skills trees should be seen as the career side. Specific jobs may require specfic skilsl that either fall out of the scope of a certificate or fall under what seems to be an entirely unrelated certificate. Useful metaphors might be the distinction between law school (where you learn what the law is) and the training you get in a law firm (where you learn how to practice the law) and the sort of courses requried to achieve the certificates/diplomas that technical schools/colleges award and the training offered by a specific technical company for a specfic job. 

Careers

EVE Careers Guide

http://www.eveonline.com/careerguide/

Professions

Jobs

Getting Started in the Professions

Seeing as this guide is about certificates and professions, let's look at those now.

The certificate system allows you to train into six 'starter' professions in three broad classes: business, industry, and the military.

The 'Starter' Professions

It is a misnomer to call these professions 'starter'. A better word would be 'main' or 'core'. There are quite a few more skill sets we should be calling 'professions' than these.

Each of the starter professions have racial variants, but only the racial frigate skill is different between them. Each certificate has four grades: basic, standard, improved, elite

Advanced Professions

Supplementary Reading

Basic Information http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Certificates

DevBlog Chat http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=1678

EVEMon http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1467427

Mac Eve Tools https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10200

ISK: the guide http://www.isktheguide.com/