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Projectile ammunition is a complex topic because, unlike [[Turrets#Hybrid_Ammo|hybrid]] or [[Turrets#Laser_Crystals|energy]] ammunition, different kinds of projectile ammunition can have not only different optimal [[Gunnery_Guide#Range|range]] modifiers, but also different [[Gunnery_Guide#Tracking|tracking]] modifiers and completely different damage types. This page attempts to explain projectile ammunition in detail.
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Projectile ammunition is a complex topic because, unlike [[Turrets#Hybrid ammo|hybrid]] or [[Turrets#Frequency crystals|energy]] ammunition, different kinds of projectile ammunition can have not only different optimal [[range]] modifiers, but also different [[tracking]] modifiers and completely different damage types.
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== T1 Ammunition Types ==
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== Tech 1 ammunition==
{| border="1"
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{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 90%; margin: 1em auto;"
! Name !! Range Mod. !! Tracking Mod. !! Damage Types !! Damage
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|+ T1 Ammunition Types
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|-  style="background-color :#222222 color: #BFBB7D;;"
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Name
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Optimal Range
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Tracking
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! scope="col" style="color: #00BFFF;" | EM
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! scope="col" style="color: #FA5858;" | Thermal
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! scope="col" style="color: #D8D8D8;" | Kinetic
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! scope="col" style="color: #FF8000;" | Explosive
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Damage
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Small
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Medium
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Large
 
|-
 
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||EMP || -50% || 0% || EM (75%)/exp (16%)/kin || High
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| EMP || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | -50% || 0% || style="background-color: #0080FF;" | 75% || || 8% || 17% || style="color: #00FF00;" | 150% || N ||  || I
 
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||Fusion || -50% || 0% || EXP (83%)/kin || High
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| Fusion || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | -50% || 0% || ||  || 17% || style="background-color: #B45F04;" | 83% || style="color: #00FF00;" | 150% || I || I || I
 
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||Phased Plasma || -50% || 0% || THERM (83%)/kin || High
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| Phased Plasma || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | -50% || 0% || || style="background-color: #B40404;" | 83% || 17% || || style="color: #00FF00;" | 150% || I ||  || 
 
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||Titanium Sabot || 0% || 20% || KIN (75%)/exp || Moderate
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| Titanium Sabot || +0% || style="color: #00FF00;" | 20% || || || style="background-color: #6E6E6E;" | 75% || 25% || 100% ||  ||  ||
 
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||Depleted Uranium || 0% || 20% || exp (38%)/therm (38%)/kin || Moderate
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| Depleted Uranium || +0% || style="color: #00FF00;" | 20% || || style="background-color: #B40404;" | 38% || 25% || style="background-color: #B45F04;" | 38% || 100% || I || I || 
 
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||Proton || 60% || 5% || em (60%)/kin || Low
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| Proton || style="color: #00FF00;" | +60% || style="color: #E1F5A9;" | 5% || style="background-color: #0080FF;" | 60% || || 40% || || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | 62.5% || I ||  || 
 
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||Nuclear || 60% || 5% || EXP (80%)/kin || Low
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| Nuclear || style="color: #00FF00;" | +60% || style="color: #E1F5A9;" | 5% || || || 20% || style="background-color: #B45F04;" | 80% || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | 62.5% ||  ||  || IN
 
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||Carbonized Lead || 60% || 5% || KIN (80%)/exp || Low
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| Carbonized Lead || style="color: #00FF00;" | +60% || style="color: #E1F5A9;" | 5% || || || style="background-color: #6E6E6E;" | 80% || 20% || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | 62.5% ||  || I || I
 
|}
 
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* 3 long range, low damage types with a minor tracking speed bonus -- Proton, Nuclear and Carbonized Lead
 
* 3 long range, low damage types with a minor tracking speed bonus -- Proton, Nuclear and Carbonized Lead
 
Within each tier the only differences are in the damage type, so EMP, phased plasma and fusion all do identical ''amounts'' of raw (before enemy resists are applied) damage.
 
Within each tier the only differences are in the damage type, so EMP, phased plasma and fusion all do identical ''amounts'' of raw (before enemy resists are applied) damage.
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The last 3 columns indicate which non-highsec material is required to build them. an I indicates Isogen and N, nocxium. Blank indicates only the Highsec minerals of Tritanium, Mexallon and Pyerite are required. This may effect the ammo choices of hybrid users who also craft their own ammunition, especially if they mine the materials as well. Capital is not included as if you are flying one of these, you likely have easy access to these materials anyway.
  
 
Faction versions of these ammunition types are available, and offer a nice increase in damage for a price. If you can afford it it's good to carry and use one or two loads of faction ammo in PvP; for PvE faction ammo is usually not cost-effective.
 
Faction versions of these ammunition types are available, and offer a nice increase in damage for a price. If you can afford it it's good to carry and use one or two loads of faction ammo in PvP; for PvE faction ammo is usually not cost-effective.
  
== Ammo and Autocannons ==
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== Tech 2 ammunition==
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{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 90%; margin: 1em auto;"
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|+ Autocannon Ammo
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|- style="background-color: #222222;"
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Name
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Optimal Range
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Falloff Range
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Tracking
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! scope="col" style="color: #00BFFF;" | EM
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! scope="col" style="color: #FA5858;" | Thermal
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! scope="col" style="color: #D8D8D8;" | Kinetic
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! scope="col" style="color: #FF8000;" | Explosive
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Damage
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|-
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| Hail || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | -50% || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | -25% || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | -25% || || || 21% || style="background-color: #B45F04;" | 79% || style="color: #00FF00;" | 193%
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| Barrage || +0% || style="color: #00FF00;" | +50% || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | -25% ||  ||  || 45% || style="background-color: #B45F04;" | 55% || style="color: #00FF00;" | 138%
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|}
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{| class="wikitable" style="font-size: 90%; margin: 1em auto;"
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|+ Artillery Ammo
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|- style="background-color: #222222;"
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Name
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Optimal Range
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Tracking
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! scope="col" style="color: #00BFFF;" | EM
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! scope="col" style="color: #FA5858;" | Thermal
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! scope="col" style="color: #D8D8D8;" | Kinetic
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! scope="col" style="color: #FF8000;" | Explosive
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Damage
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|-
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| Quake || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | -75% || style="color: #00FF00;" | +25% || || || 36% || style="background-color: #B45F04;" | 64% || style="color: #00FF00;" | 175%
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| Tremor || style="color: #00FF00;" | +80% || style="color: #FE2E2E;" | -75% || ||  || 37% || style="background-color: #B45F04;" | 63% || style="color: #00FF00;" | 138%
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|}
  
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== Ammo and autocannon ==
 
* Your optimal range doesn't exist (or might as well not exist)
 
* Your optimal range doesn't exist (or might as well not exist)
ACs have terrible optimal ranges and long falloff (read more about optimal and falloff [[Gunnery_Guide#Range|here]]). The only reasons why you should be taking autocannons into their optimal range is when fighting missile ships or if you've landed on top of a sniping battleship. All other times, fight in your falloff.
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Autocannons(AC) have terrible optimal ranges and long falloff (read more about optimal and falloff [[Range|here]]). The only reasons why you should be taking ACs into their optimal range is when fighting missile ships or if you've landed on top of a sniping battleship. All other times, fight in your falloff.
  
* If your ship has a falloff bonus, it's designed to fit autocannons
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* If your ship has a falloff bonus, it's designed to fit ACs
Because optimal range bonuses on autocannons are as useful as explosive damage bonuses for lasers.
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Because optimal range bonuses on ACs are as useful as explosive damage bonuses for lasers.
  
 
* T1 ammo range bonuses are irrelevant!
 
* T1 ammo range bonuses are irrelevant!
 
All T1 projectile ammo range modifiers apply to your optimal range, not falloff. As ACs have tiny optimal ranges and huge falloff, you can always load EMP, phased plasma or fusion -- your range would barely increase if you load one of the other ammo types.
 
All T1 projectile ammo range modifiers apply to your optimal range, not falloff. As ACs have tiny optimal ranges and huge falloff, you can always load EMP, phased plasma or fusion -- your range would barely increase if you load one of the other ammo types.
  
(There are some very minor exceptions to this rule. For example if you're trying to hit a close-orbiting Jaguar with medium ACs Titanium Sabot not only gives you a tracking bonus, but also hits the Jaguar's weakest resist, kinetic.)
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(There are some very minor exceptions to this rule. For example if you're trying to hit a close-orbiting [[Jaguar]] with medium ACs Titanium Sabot not only gives you a tracking bonus, but also hits the Jaguar's weakest resist, kinetic.)
  
* Don't ignore the low and middle-tier autocannons
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* Do not ignore the low and middle-tier ACs
125mm, 150mm, Dual 180mm, 220mm, Dual 425mm and Dual 650mm autocannons have stupidly low fitting requirements and allow you to either fit massive plates, loads of nos, twin reps, MWDs and cap boosters without gimping your setup. Using the next tier above means 4-5% more damage, a slightly reduced ammo consumption, and more falloff.
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125mm, 150mm, Dual 180mm, 220mm, Dual 425mm and Dual 650mm ACs have stupidly low fitting requirements and allow you to either fit massive plates, loads of nos, twin reps, MWDs and cap boosters without gimping your setup. Using the next tier above means 4-5% more damage, a slightly reduced ammo consumption, and more falloff.
  
* Fit top-tier autocannons for PvE
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* Fit top-tier ACs for PvE
They use a lot less ammo, which is very important when shooting rats with autocannons as they have the highest rate of fire of all turrets
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They use a lot less ammo, which is very important when shooting rats with ACs as they have the highest rate of fire of all turrets
  
=== T2 AC Ammo ===
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=== Tech 2 autocannon ammo ===
 
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There are two types of Tech 2 AC ammo, Barrage and Hail. Barrage is useful if you're fighting at long AC range, and Hail is useful to deal extra damage against targets which are easier to hit. Note that only Tech 2 ACs can load Tech 2 ammunition.
There are two types of T2 AC ammo, Barrage and Hail. Barrage is ridiculously useful, and Hail is pretty useless. Note that only T2 autocannons can load T2 ammunition.
 
  
 
==== Barrage ====
 
==== Barrage ====
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Barrage comes with a 50% boost to falloff and a 25% penalty to tracking. It does a mixture of explosive and kinetic damage, a little more explosive than kinetic. Barrage is often very useful for kiting/skirmishing tactics: it can let small AC reach out towards the further reaches of warp scrambler range, medium AC reach out to the further reaches of warp disruptor range, and large AC reach out very far indeed. It synergizes well with ships with range bonuses such as the [[Stabber]] and [[Vargur]]
  
Barrage comes with a 50% boost to falloff and a 25% penalty to tracking. It does a mixture of explosive and kinetic damage, a little more explosive than kinetic. This is the quintessential kiting/skirmishing ammo type, which lets you fit autocannons and fight at the edge of warp disruptor range.
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Due to the tracking penalty compared to normal short-range ammunition, you must consider whether or not you'll be able to keep your target's angular velocity low, and what countermeasures you will take--potentially including loading different ammunition--if a target closes in.
  
The only things it's a bit useless against are I-field shield tanks and T2 Amarr ships, who have very high explosive resists and are weaker to EM or thermal damage.
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Barrage can struggle against ships with invulnerability-field shield tanks and Tech 2 Amarr ships, which both have very high explosive resists and are weaker to EM or thermal damage.
  
 
==== Hail ====
 
==== Hail ====
 
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Hail does a lot of damage, on paper. It also cuts your tracking speed by 25%, optimal range by 50% and falloff by 25%. It can be an excellent high-damage option against targets which are easier to hit (e.g. they have been webbed or target-painted) and/or are one or more size classes larger than your guns (e.g. firing on cruisers or battleships with small AC, or on battleships with medium AC).
Hail does a lot of damage, on paper. Unfortunately it also cuts your tracking speed by 30% and falloff by 50%. (It also cuts your optimal by 50%, but you didn't want that optimal anyway, right?)
 
 
 
When fighting large, stationary targets, Hail may actually be useful. Generally, however, Hail's penalties mean that other ammunition will actually do more real, applied damage even if Hail offers the best on-paper damage.
 
  
 
=== Ammo selection ===
 
=== Ammo selection ===
 
 
So, what ammo should you actually pack? You don't need to carry a load of every type.
 
So, what ammo should you actually pack? You don't need to carry a load of every type.
  
==== PvP: T1 ACs ====
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==== PvP: Tech 1 autocannon ====
 
 
 
# Phased Plasma for general use (thermal is a decent all-round damage type)
 
# Phased Plasma for general use (thermal is a decent all-round damage type)
# Fusion to hit armour tanks
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# Fusion to hit armor tanks
 
# EMP to hit shield tanks
 
# EMP to hit shield tanks
  
==== PvP: T2 ACs ====
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==== PvP: Tech 2 autocannon ====
 
 
 
# Barrage for general use, unless you plan to fight at close range
 
# Barrage for general use, unless you plan to fight at close range
# Fusion to hit armour tanks at close range
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# Hail for close-ranged, easily-hit targets
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# Fusion to hit armor tanks at close range
 
# EMP to hit Barrage-resistant shield tanks
 
# EMP to hit Barrage-resistant shield tanks
 
# Phased Plasma to hit T2 Amarr ships or for general use at close range
 
# Phased Plasma to hit T2 Amarr ships or for general use at close range
  
On ships with an inherent falloff bonus and one or more Tracking Enhancers fitted (= the Vagabond), falloff can get so long that you can kite while using short-ranged, high-damage ammo rather than Barrage, for more DPS.
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On ships with an inherent falloff bonus and one or more Tracking Enhancers fitted (such as the [[Vagabond]]), falloff can get so long that you can kite while using short-ranged, high-damage ammo rather than Barrage, for more DPS.
  
 
==== PvE ====
 
==== PvE ====
The rule of thumb for PvE is to hit the weakest resists of the rat type you're fighting, as detailed [[NPC_Damage_Types#A_brief_Summary_of_NPC_Damage_Types|here]].
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The rule of thumb for PvE is to hit the weakest resists of the rat type you're fighting, as detailed [[NPC damage types|here]].
  
 
However, remember the tiering by damage. Some assume that since, for example, Guristas' lowest resist is to kinetic damage, titanium sabot is the best ammo to kill them. Actually, the higher damage of phased plasma makes up for the slightly worse resists.
 
However, remember the tiering by damage. Some assume that since, for example, Guristas' lowest resist is to kinetic damage, titanium sabot is the best ammo to kill them. Actually, the higher damage of phased plasma makes up for the slightly worse resists.
  
{| border="1"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:left; font-size:90%; margin: 1em auto;"
! Rats !! Best !! Second-Best  
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|- style="background-color: #222222;
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Pirate Faction
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Best Damage
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! scope="col" style="color: #BFBB7D;" | Second Best
 
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||Angel Cartel || Fusion || Titanium Sabot  
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| Angel Cartel || Fusion || Titanium Sabot  
 
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||Blood Raiders || EMP || Phased Plasma
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| Blood Raiders || EMP || Phased Plasma
 
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||Guristas || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
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| Guristas || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
 
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||Serpentis || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
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| Serpentis || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
 
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||Sansha || EMP || Phased Plasma
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| Sansha || EMP || Phased Plasma
 
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||Mercenaries || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
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| Mercenaries || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
 
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||Mordu's Legion || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
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| Mordu's Legion || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
 
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||Rogue Drones || EMP || Phased Plasma  
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| Rogue Drones || EMP || Phased Plasma  
 
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||Amarr Empire || EMP || Phased Plasma  
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| Amarr Empire || EMP || Phased Plasma  
 
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||Caldari State || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
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| Caldari State || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
 
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||Gallente Federation || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
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| Gallente Federation || Phased Plasma || Titanium Sabot
 
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||Minmatar Republic || Fusion || Titanium Sabot
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| Minmatar Republic || Fusion || Titanium Sabot
 
|}
 
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== Ammo and Artillery ==
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== Ammo and artillery ==
 
* Meaningful optimal ranges!
 
* Meaningful optimal ranges!
 
Unlike autocannon, artillery do have a noticeable optimal range, though they also have plenty of falloff too. This means that the range bonuses from the T1 ammo types do actually let you reach further away.
 
Unlike autocannon, artillery do have a noticeable optimal range, though they also have plenty of falloff too. This means that the range bonuses from the T1 ammo types do actually let you reach further away.
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* Alpha
 
* Alpha
Artillery pieces do low DPS but high [[Alpha#Alpha_Strike|alpha]] -- they deal a lot of damage in one hit. This is a further incentive to use the high-damage, short range ammo, to maximise your alpha strike. In certain PvP situations you can destroy a target in one hit, rendering DPS pretty irrelevant.
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Artillery pieces do low DPS but high [[Alpha Strike|alpha]] -- they deal a lot of damage in one hit. This is a further incentive to use the high-damage, short range ammo, to maximise your alpha strike. In certain PvP situations you can destroy a target in one hit, rendering DPS pretty irrelevant.
  
=== T2 Artillery Ammo ===
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=== Tech 2 artillery ammo ===
There are two types of T2 artillery ammo, Tremor and Quake. Tremor is a good sniping ammunition, and Quake is about as useless as Hail. Both Tremor and Quake do a mixture of explosive and kinetic damage, more explosive than kinetic.
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There are two types of Tech 2 artillery ammo, Tremor and Quake. Tremor is a good sniping ammunition, while Quake helps against targets that are too close for comfort. Both Tremor and Quake do a mixture of explosive and kinetic damage, more explosive than kinetic.
  
 
==== Tremor ====
 
==== Tremor ====
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==== Quake ====
 
==== Quake ====
Quake does a lot of damage on paper, but it comes with a 75% range penalty, a 25% tracking speed penalty and it also slows your ship down (particularly irritating in a normally-swift Minmatar hull). As with Hail, the drawbacks mean that Quake will rarely outdamage other ammo types, though it may be useful against large stationary targets.
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Quake is the polar opposite of Tremor, replacing the range bonus with a 75% range penalty and the tracking penalty with a 25% tracking speed bonus. It is designed to be a last resort against targets that are too close and have too high of a transversal to hit with other ammo types.
  
=== Ammo Selection ===
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=== Ammo selection ===
 
With artillery you are usually either
 
With artillery you are usually either
 
* using the short-ranged ammo, within disruptor range in PvP and within its optimal in PvE
 
* using the short-ranged ammo, within disruptor range in PvP and within its optimal in PvE
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So ammo selection follows a fairly similar logic to that for autocannons.
 
So ammo selection follows a fairly similar logic to that for autocannons.
  
==== PvP: T1 Arty ====
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==== PvP: Tech 1 artillery ====
 
# Phased Plasma for general use (thermal is a decent all-round damage type)
 
# Phased Plasma for general use (thermal is a decent all-round damage type)
# Fusion to hit armour tanks
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# Fusion to hit armor tanks
 
# EMP to hit shield tanks
 
# EMP to hit shield tanks
 
# Maybe one of Nuclear/Proton/Carbonized Lead to use if you find you cannot bring the enemy into range of the short-range ammo types
 
# Maybe one of Nuclear/Proton/Carbonized Lead to use if you find you cannot bring the enemy into range of the short-range ammo types
  
==== PvP: T2 Arty ====
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==== PvP: Tech 2 artillery ====
 
* If sniping, Tremor, with some short-ranged ammo for emergencies in the hold
 
* If sniping, Tremor, with some short-ranged ammo for emergencies in the hold
 
* If not sniping, the same selection as for T1 artillery, with Tremor replacing Nuclear/Proton/Carbonized Lead
 
* If not sniping, the same selection as for T1 artillery, with Tremor replacing Nuclear/Proton/Carbonized Lead
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As with autocannons, whichever of the three short-ranged ammo types the rats you're fighting are weakest to.
 
As with autocannons, whichever of the three short-ranged ammo types the rats you're fighting are weakest to.
  
==See Also==
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== See also ==
 
* [[Turrets]], for a more general overview of all three kinds of turret and their associated ammunition
 
* [[Turrets]], for a more general overview of all three kinds of turret and their associated ammunition
* Scrapheap's [http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=21694&sid=c3d9b8ddd0928c654c5490e3659dc78b Projectile Ammo sticky]
 
  
[[Category:Guides]]
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[[Category:Weapons]]
[[Category:Ship Fitting]]
 

Latest revision as of 09:45, 16 March 2024

Projectile ammunition is a complex topic because, unlike hybrid or energy ammunition, different kinds of projectile ammunition can have not only different optimal range modifiers, but also different tracking modifiers and completely different damage types.

Tech 1 ammunition

T1 Ammunition Types
Name Optimal Range Tracking EM Thermal Kinetic Explosive Damage Small Medium Large
EMP -50% 0% 75% 8% 17% 150% N I
Fusion -50% 0% 17% 83% 150% I I I
Phased Plasma -50% 0% 83% 17% 150% I
Titanium Sabot +0% 20% 75% 25% 100%
Depleted Uranium +0% 20% 38% 25% 38% 100% I I
Proton +60% 5% 60% 40% 62.5% I
Nuclear +60% 5% 20% 80% 62.5% IN
Carbonized Lead +60% 5% 80% 20% 62.5% I I

As you can see from this table, after the Dominion expansion, projectile ammo is divided into three tiers:

  • 3 short-ranged, high-damage types -- EMP, Phased Plasma and Fusion
  • 2 medium range, medium damage, high-tracking types -- Titanium Sabot and Depleted Uranium
  • 3 long range, low damage types with a minor tracking speed bonus -- Proton, Nuclear and Carbonized Lead

Within each tier the only differences are in the damage type, so EMP, phased plasma and fusion all do identical amounts of raw (before enemy resists are applied) damage.

The last 3 columns indicate which non-highsec material is required to build them. an I indicates Isogen and N, nocxium. Blank indicates only the Highsec minerals of Tritanium, Mexallon and Pyerite are required. This may effect the ammo choices of hybrid users who also craft their own ammunition, especially if they mine the materials as well. Capital is not included as if you are flying one of these, you likely have easy access to these materials anyway.

Faction versions of these ammunition types are available, and offer a nice increase in damage for a price. If you can afford it it's good to carry and use one or two loads of faction ammo in PvP; for PvE faction ammo is usually not cost-effective.

Tech 2 ammunition

Autocannon Ammo
Name Optimal Range Falloff Range Tracking EM Thermal Kinetic Explosive Damage
Hail -50% -25% -25% 21% 79% 193%
Barrage +0% +50% -25% 45% 55% 138%
Artillery Ammo
Name Optimal Range Tracking EM Thermal Kinetic Explosive Damage
Quake -75% +25% 36% 64% 175%
Tremor +80% -75% 37% 63% 138%

Ammo and autocannon

  • Your optimal range doesn't exist (or might as well not exist)

Autocannons(AC) have terrible optimal ranges and long falloff (read more about optimal and falloff here). The only reasons why you should be taking ACs into their optimal range is when fighting missile ships or if you've landed on top of a sniping battleship. All other times, fight in your falloff.

  • If your ship has a falloff bonus, it's designed to fit ACs

Because optimal range bonuses on ACs are as useful as explosive damage bonuses for lasers.

  • T1 ammo range bonuses are irrelevant!

All T1 projectile ammo range modifiers apply to your optimal range, not falloff. As ACs have tiny optimal ranges and huge falloff, you can always load EMP, phased plasma or fusion -- your range would barely increase if you load one of the other ammo types.

(There are some very minor exceptions to this rule. For example if you're trying to hit a close-orbiting Jaguar with medium ACs Titanium Sabot not only gives you a tracking bonus, but also hits the Jaguar's weakest resist, kinetic.)

  • Do not ignore the low and middle-tier ACs

125mm, 150mm, Dual 180mm, 220mm, Dual 425mm and Dual 650mm ACs have stupidly low fitting requirements and allow you to either fit massive plates, loads of nos, twin reps, MWDs and cap boosters without gimping your setup. Using the next tier above means 4-5% more damage, a slightly reduced ammo consumption, and more falloff.

  • Fit top-tier ACs for PvE

They use a lot less ammo, which is very important when shooting rats with ACs as they have the highest rate of fire of all turrets

Tech 2 autocannon ammo

There are two types of Tech 2 AC ammo, Barrage and Hail. Barrage is useful if you're fighting at long AC range, and Hail is useful to deal extra damage against targets which are easier to hit. Note that only Tech 2 ACs can load Tech 2 ammunition.

Barrage

Barrage comes with a 50% boost to falloff and a 25% penalty to tracking. It does a mixture of explosive and kinetic damage, a little more explosive than kinetic. Barrage is often very useful for kiting/skirmishing tactics: it can let small AC reach out towards the further reaches of warp scrambler range, medium AC reach out to the further reaches of warp disruptor range, and large AC reach out very far indeed. It synergizes well with ships with range bonuses such as the Stabber and Vargur

Due to the tracking penalty compared to normal short-range ammunition, you must consider whether or not you'll be able to keep your target's angular velocity low, and what countermeasures you will take--potentially including loading different ammunition--if a target closes in.

Barrage can struggle against ships with invulnerability-field shield tanks and Tech 2 Amarr ships, which both have very high explosive resists and are weaker to EM or thermal damage.

Hail

Hail does a lot of damage, on paper. It also cuts your tracking speed by 25%, optimal range by 50% and falloff by 25%. It can be an excellent high-damage option against targets which are easier to hit (e.g. they have been webbed or target-painted) and/or are one or more size classes larger than your guns (e.g. firing on cruisers or battleships with small AC, or on battleships with medium AC).

Ammo selection

So, what ammo should you actually pack? You don't need to carry a load of every type.

PvP: Tech 1 autocannon

  1. Phased Plasma for general use (thermal is a decent all-round damage type)
  2. Fusion to hit armor tanks
  3. EMP to hit shield tanks

PvP: Tech 2 autocannon

  1. Barrage for general use, unless you plan to fight at close range
  2. Hail for close-ranged, easily-hit targets
  3. Fusion to hit armor tanks at close range
  4. EMP to hit Barrage-resistant shield tanks
  5. Phased Plasma to hit T2 Amarr ships or for general use at close range

On ships with an inherent falloff bonus and one or more Tracking Enhancers fitted (such as the Vagabond), falloff can get so long that you can kite while using short-ranged, high-damage ammo rather than Barrage, for more DPS.

PvE

The rule of thumb for PvE is to hit the weakest resists of the rat type you're fighting, as detailed here.

However, remember the tiering by damage. Some assume that since, for example, Guristas' lowest resist is to kinetic damage, titanium sabot is the best ammo to kill them. Actually, the higher damage of phased plasma makes up for the slightly worse resists.

Pirate Faction Best Damage Second Best
Angel Cartel Fusion Titanium Sabot
Blood Raiders EMP Phased Plasma
Guristas Phased Plasma Titanium Sabot
Serpentis Phased Plasma Titanium Sabot
Sansha EMP Phased Plasma
Mercenaries Phased Plasma Titanium Sabot
Mordu's Legion Phased Plasma Titanium Sabot
Rogue Drones EMP Phased Plasma
Amarr Empire EMP Phased Plasma
Caldari State Phased Plasma Titanium Sabot
Gallente Federation Phased Plasma Titanium Sabot
Minmatar Republic Fusion Titanium Sabot

Ammo and artillery

  • Meaningful optimal ranges!

Unlike autocannon, artillery do have a noticeable optimal range, though they also have plenty of falloff too. This means that the range bonuses from the T1 ammo types do actually let you reach further away.

  • But . . .

Unless your tank really cannot survive at the range you have with EMP, phased plasma or fusion, you're generally best sticking to the short-ranged types to get the best DPS. Although the longer-ranged ammo types could be used for sniping, they're outclassed by Tremor, the long-range T2 artillery ammo.

  • Alpha

Artillery pieces do low DPS but high alpha -- they deal a lot of damage in one hit. This is a further incentive to use the high-damage, short range ammo, to maximise your alpha strike. In certain PvP situations you can destroy a target in one hit, rendering DPS pretty irrelevant.

Tech 2 artillery ammo

There are two types of Tech 2 artillery ammo, Tremor and Quake. Tremor is a good sniping ammunition, while Quake helps against targets that are too close for comfort. Both Tremor and Quake do a mixture of explosive and kinetic damage, more explosive than kinetic.

Tremor

Tremor comes with a whopping 80% range bonus, and a 75% tracking speed penalty. It's dedicated sniping ammo. If your targets ever get close enough that they achieve meaningful angular velocity, then artillery, which have slow tracking speeds at the best of times, will really struggle to hit them.

Quake

Quake is the polar opposite of Tremor, replacing the range bonus with a 75% range penalty and the tracking penalty with a 25% tracking speed bonus. It is designed to be a last resort against targets that are too close and have too high of a transversal to hit with other ammo types.

Ammo selection

With artillery you are usually either

  • using the short-ranged ammo, within disruptor range in PvP and within its optimal in PvE
  • or PvP sniping with Tremor at long, long range

So ammo selection follows a fairly similar logic to that for autocannons.

PvP: Tech 1 artillery

  1. Phased Plasma for general use (thermal is a decent all-round damage type)
  2. Fusion to hit armor tanks
  3. EMP to hit shield tanks
  4. Maybe one of Nuclear/Proton/Carbonized Lead to use if you find you cannot bring the enemy into range of the short-range ammo types

PvP: Tech 2 artillery

  • If sniping, Tremor, with some short-ranged ammo for emergencies in the hold
  • If not sniping, the same selection as for T1 artillery, with Tremor replacing Nuclear/Proton/Carbonized Lead

PvE

As with autocannons, whichever of the three short-ranged ammo types the rats you're fighting are weakest to.

See also

  • Turrets, for a more general overview of all three kinds of turret and their associated ammunition