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In particular, passive shield tanks can be effective on ships built for kiting or long-range combat tactics, both of which keep shield damage relatively low. As above, it can also be used when employing hit-and-run tactics as well. | In particular, passive shield tanks can be effective on ships built for kiting or long-range combat tactics, both of which keep shield damage relatively low. As above, it can also be used when employing hit-and-run tactics as well. | ||
− | ==Shield | + | == Shield recharge rate == |
{{main|Shields#Shield Recharge Rate}} | {{main|Shields#Shield Recharge Rate}} | ||
The shield regeneration rate increases by more than double as the shield takes damage. Since this change is a percentage, a ship that starts with a higher average regeneration rate will get a bigger boost in its optimum rate. In addition, since the shield regeneration ''time'' is constant, a larger shield will regenerate more hit points per second. | The shield regeneration rate increases by more than double as the shield takes damage. Since this change is a percentage, a ship that starts with a higher average regeneration rate will get a bigger boost in its optimum rate. In addition, since the shield regeneration ''time'' is constant, a larger shield will regenerate more hit points per second. | ||
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For example, these are all Caldari ships. Many Caldari ships prefer shield tanks. | For example, these are all Caldari ships. Many Caldari ships prefer shield tanks. | ||
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− | ! scope="col | + | ! scope="col" style="width: 150px; text-align:left;" | Ship Type |
− | ! scope="col | + | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px;" | Shield Capacity (hp) |
− | ! scope="col | + | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px;" | Shield Regeneration Time (sec) |
+ | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px;" | Average Regeneration Rate (C/T) | ||
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− | |style="text-align:left"|{{sh|Kestrel}} (frigate)|| 500 || 650 || 1.3 | + | |style="text-align: left;"|{{sh|Kestrel}} (frigate)|| 500 || 650 || 1.3 |
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− | |style="text-align:left"|{{sh|Corax}} (destroyer)|| 950 || 625 || 1.5 | + | |style="text-align: left;"|{{sh|Corax}} (destroyer)|| 950 || 625 || 1.5 |
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− | |style="text-align:left"|{{sh|Moa}} (cruiser)|| 2500 || 1250 || 2.0 | + | |style="text-align: left;"|{{sh|Moa}} (cruiser)|| 2500 || 1250 || 2.0 |
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− | |style="text-align:left"|{{sh|Drake}} (battlecruiser)|| 5250 || 1400 || 3.75 | + | |style="text-align: left;"|{{sh|Drake}} (battlecruiser)|| 5250 || 1400 || 3.75 |
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− | |style="text-align:left"|{{sh|Raven}} (battleship)|| 7000 || 2500 || 2.8 | + | |style="text-align: left;"|{{sh|Raven}} (battleship)|| 7000 || 2500 || 2.8 |
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These cruisers and battlecruisers provide a representative sample comparison of ships by faction. | These cruisers and battlecruisers provide a representative sample comparison of ships by faction. | ||
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− | ! scope="col | + | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px; text-align:left"| Faction |
− | ! scope="col | + | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px;" | Ship Type |
− | ! scope="col | + | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px;" | Shield Capacity (hp) |
− | ! scope="col | + | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px;" | Shield Regeneration Time (sec) |
+ | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px;" | Average Regeneration Rate (C/T) | ||
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|style="text-align:left"|{{sh|Drake}} || Battlecruiser || 5250 || 1400 || 3.8 | |style="text-align:left"|{{sh|Drake}} || Battlecruiser || 5250 || 1400 || 3.8 | ||
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The Caldari and Minmatar tend to have the larger shield capacities and higher shield recharge rates. Thus it is not surprising that ships of these factions are more likely to be shield tanked. | The Caldari and Minmatar tend to have the larger shield capacities and higher shield recharge rates. Thus it is not surprising that ships of these factions are more likely to be shield tanked. | ||
− | ==Combat | + | == Combat situations == |
Because a passive tank depends on the shield's recharging, it works best in situations where the damage is constant or builds slowly over time. It works least well in situation where the shield will take a large amount of damage in a very short time. Passive tanking can be used, then in situations where the pilot can "kite" the enemies to control how much damage comes in – or in situations where the pilot is using long range weapons and depending on speed to keep away from enemy fire. | Because a passive tank depends on the shield's recharging, it works best in situations where the damage is constant or builds slowly over time. It works least well in situation where the shield will take a large amount of damage in a very short time. Passive tanking can be used, then in situations where the pilot can "kite" the enemies to control how much damage comes in – or in situations where the pilot is using long range weapons and depending on speed to keep away from enemy fire. | ||
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In fleet situations the assigned combat role may be a factor. If the ship is to be tackling other ships, for example, its mid power slots may be needed for e-war modules, and it may be exposed to high, brief peaks of damage - so an armor tank will likely be preferable. | In fleet situations the assigned combat role may be a factor. If the ship is to be tackling other ships, for example, its mid power slots may be needed for e-war modules, and it may be exposed to high, brief peaks of damage - so an armor tank will likely be preferable. | ||
− | ==Modules and rigs== | + | == Modules and rigs == |
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The following influence the passive shield tank. | The following influence the passive shield tank. | ||
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− | ! scope="col | + | ! scope="col" | Unit |
− | ! scope="col | + | ! scope="col" | Slot |
− | ! scope="col" | + | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px;" | Capacitor Drain |
− | ! scope="col" | + | ! scope="col" style="width: 100px;" | Effect |
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|{{co|wheat|Shield Extender}} || mid || - || Capacity || increases Signature Radius | |{{co|wheat|Shield Extender}} || mid || - || Capacity || increases Signature Radius | ||
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− | ===Initial | + | === Initial fit === |
The usual starting point is to try to fill several low slots with Shield Power Relay modules, several mid slots with Shield Extender modules, and to fit all three rig slots with Defense Field Purger rigs. Of course, this will need to be modified to fit slot availability, resists and other considerations, but it is a good place to start. | The usual starting point is to try to fill several low slots with Shield Power Relay modules, several mid slots with Shield Extender modules, and to fit all three rig slots with Defense Field Purger rigs. Of course, this will need to be modified to fit slot availability, resists and other considerations, but it is a good place to start. | ||
− | With that in mind, although | + | With that in mind, although {{Co|#EEFFCC|Shield Power Relays}} reduce capacitor recharge rate, they have no stacking penalties, and they are the most powerful modules in terms of increasing shield regeneration. |
− | + | {{Co|#EEFFCC|Shield Extenders}} increase the capacity of the shield, and, because recharge ''time'' is a constant, this in turn increases the recharge rate. These modules have a Signature Radius penalty associated with them, and they impact on the power grid, but they have no stacking penalties, and their benefits outweigh these costs. In addition, it is often possible to "upsize" Shield Extenders ... putting Large Shield Extenders on a Cruiser, for example, or Medium Extenders on a Frigate. The increased buffer will also allow the ship to survive for a while even if incoming dps is higher than the recharge. This way the pilot can kill the dps enough to survive further. | |
− | Finally, | + | Finally, {{Co|#EEFFCC|Defense Field Purger rigs}} are almost always more effective than Defense Field Extender rigs in a passive shield fit. The extender increases the capacity of the shield, which does have the effect of also increasing its recharge rate. However, the Purger directly increases the recharge rate by enough to make a difference. The Purger does, however, have a larger impact on Signature Radius. |
− | {{Color box | color=#222222 | border=# | + | {{Color box |
+ | | color= #222222 | ||
+ | | border= #FFEEEE | ||
+ | | A tank built from these modules will greatly increase the shield recharge rate, will somewhat increase the shield capacity, will have no stacking penalties, will increase the ship's Signature Radius, and will reduce the Capacitor's recharge time (but will not draw directly on the Capacitor for power). | ||
Without the use of modules that incur stacking penalties, the calculation for passive shield regeneration rate is multiplicative; the more fittings added, the greater effect each fitting has. | Without the use of modules that incur stacking penalties, the calculation for passive shield regeneration rate is multiplicative; the more fittings added, the greater effect each fitting has. | ||
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− | ===Possible | + | === Possible alterations === |
− | + | * Most ships have "damage holes", a type of damage from which they are not well defended. A specific damage type shield hardener may need to be equipped to cover such holes. Hardener modules for other types of damage may be added to account for the primary damage types expected in the encounter. Keep in mind the stacking penalties that arise if a second hardener module is used to alter the same type of damage. | |
− | *Most ships have "damage holes", a type of damage from which they are not well defended. A specific damage type shield hardener may need to be equipped to cover such holes. Hardener modules for other types of damage may be added to account for the primary damage types expected in the encounter. Keep in mind the stacking penalties that arise if a second hardener module is used to alter the same type of damage. | + | * If the pilot's skills are not sufficient to install T2 modules, substitutions may be in order. You will have to experiment with T1 modules ... or you may find it better to just wait until your skills improve. |
− | *If the pilot's skills are not sufficient to install T2 modules, substitutions may be in order. You will have to experiment with T1 modules ... or you may find it better to just wait until your skills improve. | + | * Once your tanking modules are set, check to see if your ship's capacitor is stable. If it isn't, and the amount is significant, consider swapping one or two Shield Power Relays for Shield Flux Coils. If you have to swap more than two Shield Relays for Flux Coils, consider putting back all but one of the Shield Power Relays and adding a Capacitor Power Relay. |
− | *Once your tanking modules are set, check to see if your ship's capacitor is stable. If it isn't, and the amount is significant, consider swapping one or two Shield Power Relays for Shield Flux Coils. If you have to swap more than two Shield Relays for Flux Coils, consider putting back all but one of the Shield Power Relays and adding a Capacitor Power Relay. | ||
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+ | === Example === | ||
+ | [[File:QSG_hurricane_shield.png|thumb|upright=1.8|alt= Minmatar Hurricane shield attributes]] | ||
Consider the [[Hurricane]], a Minmatar Battlecruiser. | Consider the [[Hurricane]], a Minmatar Battlecruiser. | ||
− | + | * Base shield capacity: 4250 hp | |
− | *Base shield capacity: 4250 hp | + | * Base recharge time: 1400 sec |
− | *Base recharge time: 1400 sec | + | * Average regeneration rate = 4250 / 1400 = 3.0 hp/s |
− | *Average regeneration rate = 4250 / 1400 = 3.0 hp/s | + | * Base peak regen rate = 2.5 x 3.0 = 7.5 hp/s |
− | *Base peak regen rate = 2.5 x 3.0 = 7.5 hp/s | ||
− | *Note that the Hurricane's shields are weakest for EM, followed by Thermal, damage. | + | * Note that the Hurricane's shields are weakest for EM, followed by Thermal, damage. |
Why put a passive tank on a Hurricane? As an L3 Security Mission runner: | Why put a passive tank on a Hurricane? As an L3 Security Mission runner: | ||
− | *It has good shield capacity and a high recharge rate | + | * It has good shield capacity and a high recharge rate |
− | *It has six low slots – 3 for Shield Power Relays and 3 for offensive modules | + | * It has six low slots – 3 for Shield Power Relays and 3 for offensive modules |
− | *For mission running the mid slots can be dedicated to propulsion and shields | + | * For mission running the mid slots can be dedicated to propulsion and shields |
− | *Bonuses to medium projectile turrets and six turret hardpoints support artillery for PVE | + | * Bonuses to medium projectile turrets and six turret hardpoints support artillery for PVE |
− | *Increases in signature radius matter less in PVE | + | * Increases in signature radius matter less in PVE |
− | ===Shield Power Relays=== | + | === Shield Power Relays === |
+ | [[File:QSG_shieldpowerrelayII_attributes.png|thumb|alt= shield power relay II attributes]] | ||
Shield power relays increase the recharge time directly. They have no stacking penalty, but they do reduce the recharge rate of the capacitor. | Shield power relays increase the recharge time directly. They have no stacking penalty, but they do reduce the recharge rate of the capacitor. | ||
− | + | * Shield Power Relay II | |
− | *Shield Power Relay II | + | * Recharge time bonus: -24% |
− | *Recharge time bonus: -24% | + | * No shield support skills |
− | *No shield support skills | + | * (''Penalty: Capacitor Recharge Rate -35%'') |
− | *(''Penalty: Capacitor Recharge Rate -35%'') | ||
The first module reduces the Recharge Time by 24%, from 1400 sec to 1400 - 336 = 1064 sec | The first module reduces the Recharge Time by 24%, from 1400 sec to 1400 - 336 = 1064 sec | ||
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Repeating the calculation: | Repeating the calculation: | ||
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|Recharge Time|| 1064.0 || 808.6 || 614.3 || 466.9 || 354.9 || 269.7 | |Recharge Time|| 1064.0 || 808.6 || 614.3 || 466.9 || 354.9 || 269.7 | ||
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− | While this illustrates the power of the module, fitting six of them to a ship would be unrealistic. Three modules is a common fit, with the other slots used for other purposes. Thus, with no other skills or fittings, three Shield Power Relays would increase the '' | + | While this illustrates the power of the module, fitting six of them to a ship would be unrealistic. Three modules is a common fit, with the other slots used for other purposes. Thus, with no other skills or fittings, three Shield Power Relays would increase the ''{{Co|#fFFEEEE|Peak}}'' Recharge Rate to 17.3 hitpoints per second. |
For comparison, a medium Phased Plasma projectile does about 18 hp base shield damage plus 24 hp type damage; a medium Lead Hybrid charge does about 10 hp base shield damage plus 16 hp type damage. | For comparison, a medium Phased Plasma projectile does about 18 hp base shield damage plus 24 hp type damage; a medium Lead Hybrid charge does about 10 hp base shield damage plus 16 hp type damage. | ||
− | ===Shield Extenders=== | + | === Shield Extenders === |
+ | [[File:QSG_largeshieldextII_attributes.png|thumb|alt=large shield extender II attributes]] | ||
Shield extenders add hitpoints to the Capacity of the shield. The do not have stacking penalties, but they do increase the Signature Radius of the ship. | Shield extenders add hitpoints to the Capacity of the shield. The do not have stacking penalties, but they do increase the Signature Radius of the ship. | ||
− | + | * Large Shield Extender II | |
− | *Large Shield Extender II | + | * Shield Capacity Bonus: 2600 hp |
− | *Shield Capacity Bonus: 2600 hp | + | * No shield support skills |
− | *No shield support skills | + | * (''Penalty: Signature Radius 25 m'') |
− | *(''Penalty: Signature Radius 25 m'') | ||
Base recharge time: 1400 sec | Base recharge time: 1400 sec | ||
− | Shield Capacity: 4250 + 2600 = | + | Shield Capacity: 4250 + 2600 = {{Co|#EEFFCC|6850}} hp |
Average regeneration Rate = 6850 / 1400 = 4.9 hp/s | Average regeneration Rate = 6850 / 1400 = 4.9 hp/s | ||
Peak Recharge Rate = 2.5 x 4.9 = 12.3 hp/s | Peak Recharge Rate = 2.5 x 4.9 = 12.3 hp/s | ||
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The original base Peak Recharge Rate was 7.6 hp/s. So adding a large shield extender increases the recharge rate by 4.7 hp/s; an increase of 62%. | The original base Peak Recharge Rate was 7.6 hp/s. So adding a large shield extender increases the recharge rate by 4.7 hp/s; an increase of 62%. | ||
− | ===Core Defense Purger | + | === Core Defense Purger rigs === |
+ | [[File:QSG_coredeffieldpurger_attributes.png|thumb|alt=core defense field purger rig attributes]] | ||
These rigs produce a percentage increase in Shield Recharge Rate. They have no stacking penalty, but they do increase the Signature Radius of the ship. | These rigs produce a percentage increase in Shield Recharge Rate. They have no stacking penalty, but they do increase the Signature Radius of the ship. | ||
− | + | * Medium Core Defense Field Purger I | |
− | *Medium Core Defense Field Purger I | + | * Recharge Rate Bonus: -20% |
− | *Recharge Rate Bonus: -20% | + | * No shield support skills |
− | *No shield support skills | + | * (''Penalty: Signature Radius 10%'') |
− | *(''Penalty: Signature Radius 10%'') | ||
Since these are usually the last items to be fitted, this example will build on a fit that includes one Large Shield Extender II and three Power Shield Relay IIs. | Since these are usually the last items to be fitted, this example will build on a fit that includes one Large Shield Extender II and three Power Shield Relay IIs. | ||
The bare ship had: | The bare ship had: | ||
− | *Base shield capacity: 4250 hp | + | * Base shield capacity: 4250 hp |
− | *Base recharge time: 1400 sec | + | * Base recharge time: 1400 sec |
− | *Average regeneration rate = 4250 / 1400 = 3.0 hp/s | + | * Average regeneration rate = 4250 / 1400 = 3.0 hp/s |
− | *Base peak | + | * Base peak regeneration rate = 2.5 x 3.1 = 7.6 hp/s |
After one Large Shield Extender II (see above): | After one Large Shield Extender II (see above): | ||
− | *Shield capacity: | + | * Shield capacity: {{Co|#EEFFCC|6850 hp}} |
Three Power Shield Relay II (see above): | Three Power Shield Relay II (see above): | ||
− | *Modules reduce recharge time @ -24% | + | * Modules reduce recharge time @ -24% |
− | *Shield capacity: 6850 hp | + | * Shield capacity: 6850 hp |
− | *Peak Recharge Rate = Shield Capacity/Recharge Time x 2.5 | + | * Peak Recharge Rate = Shield Capacity/Recharge Time x 2.5 |
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! scope="col" width="50" | 2 | ! scope="col" width="50" | 2 | ||
! scope="col" width="50" | 3 | ! scope="col" width="50" | 3 | ||
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− | |Recharge Time || 1064 || 808.6 || | + | |Recharge Time || 1064 || 808.6 || {{Co|#EEFFCC|614.3}} |
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|Peak Regeneration Rate || 16.1 || 21.2 || 27.9 | |Peak Regeneration Rate || 16.1 || 21.2 || 27.9 | ||
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Three Core Defense Purger Rigs: | Three Core Defense Purger Rigs: | ||
− | *Rigs reduce recharge time @ -20% | + | * Rigs reduce recharge time @ -20% |
− | *Shield capacity: | + | * Shield capacity: {{Co|#eeffcc||6850}} hp |
− | *Starting Recharge Time: | + | * Starting Recharge Time: {{Co|#EEFFCC|614.3}} sec |
− | *Peak Recharge Rate = Shield Capacity/Recharge Time x 2.5 | + | * Peak Recharge Rate = Shield Capacity/Recharge Time x 2.5 |
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|Recharge Time || 491.4 || 393.1 || 314.4 | |Recharge Time || 491.4 || 393.1 || 314.4 | ||
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So with this fit in place, an no pilot shield skills, the Peak Shield Regeneration Rate will be 54.4 hp/sec. | So with this fit in place, an no pilot shield skills, the Peak Shield Regeneration Rate will be 54.4 hp/sec. | ||
− | ==Skills== | + | == Skills == |
− | {{ sk | Shield Management}}: ''5% bonus to shield capacity per skill level'' | + | {{sk|Shield Management}}: ''5% bonus to shield capacity per skill level'' |
− | {{ sk | Shield Operation}}: ''5% reduction in shield recharge time per skill level'' | + | {{sk|Shield Operation}}: ''5% reduction in shield recharge time per skill level'' |
Any pilot considering a passive shield tank would want to train these to at least Level IV. At that level, their effect would be considerable. | Any pilot considering a passive shield tank would want to train these to at least Level IV. At that level, their effect would be considerable. | ||
'''Shield Management @ Level IV''' | '''Shield Management @ Level IV''' | ||
− | [[File:QSG hurricane passive fit.png |thumb | + | [[File:QSG hurricane passive fit.png |thumb|upright=3.0]]*20% increase in Shield Capacity |
This would increase the Base Shield Capacity to: 4250 + 0.20 x 4250 = 5100 hitpoints | This would increase the Base Shield Capacity to: 4250 + 0.20 x 4250 = 5100 hitpoints | ||
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''It would also increase the benefit of the Large Shield Extender II by 20%: 2600 + 0.20 x 2600 = 3120'' | ''It would also increase the benefit of the Large Shield Extender II by 20%: 2600 + 0.20 x 2600 = 3120'' | ||
− | Making the total shield capacity: 5100 + 3120 = | + | Making the total shield capacity: 5100 + 3120 = {{Co|#EEFFCC|8220 hitpoints}} |
'''Shield Operation @ Level IV''' | '''Shield Operation @ Level IV''' | ||
− | *20% decrease in Shield Recharge Time | + | * 20% decrease in Shield Recharge Time |
This would decrease the Base Shield Recharge Time: 1400 - 1400 x 0.20 = 1120 | This would decrease the Base Shield Recharge Time: 1400 - 1400 x 0.20 = 1120 | ||
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And that value would be used in the three Shield Relay computations followed by the 3 Core Purger Rig computations | And that value would be used in the three Shield Relay computations followed by the 3 Core Purger Rig computations | ||
− | *Relay @ -24% | + | * Relay @ -24% |
:851.2, 646.9, 491.6 | :851.2, 646.9, 491.6 | ||
− | *Purger @ -20% | + | * Purger @ -20% |
:393.2, 314.5, 251.6 | :393.2, 314.5, 251.6 | ||
− | giving a final Recharge Time of: | + | giving a final Recharge Time of: {{Co|#EEFFCC|251.6 seconds}} |
These two values compute the final Peak Recharge Rate. | These two values compute the final Peak Recharge Rate. | ||
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Average Recharge Time = 8220/251.6 = 32.7 | Average Recharge Time = 8220/251.6 = 32.7 | ||
Peak Recharge Rate: 32.7 x 2.5 = 81.7 hp/sec | Peak Recharge Rate: 32.7 x 2.5 = 81.7 hp/sec | ||
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− | {{Color box | color=#222222 | border=# | + | {{Color box |
+ | | color= #222222 | ||
+ | | border=#FFEEEE | ||
+ | | If you have come this far, it may be worthwhile pausing to think about what all this might mean. Keep in mind, first, that the shield begins recharging at the Average Rate and then builds towards the Peak Rate, which it only achieves when the shield is 75% gone. That means that these numbers are not very helpful in combat, they simply give a way of comparing a passive fit against a more active one, or against armor. | ||
Passive fits more or less assume that you will be kiting, or at least firing from longer range, and that by so doing, you will not come under intense bursts of heavy fire. In other words, the shield needs time to rebuild itself as you fight. | Passive fits more or less assume that you will be kiting, or at least firing from longer range, and that by so doing, you will not come under intense bursts of heavy fire. In other words, the shield needs time to rebuild itself as you fight. | ||
− | The advantage of this approach lies in its avoidance of stacking penalties, which gives you more benefit per module fitted, and which in turn should give you extra strength in areas other than defense. This may come from having room to fit an additional module, or by savings in power or CPU that let you install more highly rated equipment.}} | + | The advantage of this approach lies in its avoidance of stacking penalties, which gives you more benefit per module fitted, and which in turn should give you extra strength in areas other than defense. This may come from having room to fit an additional module, or by savings in power or CPU that let you install more highly rated equipment. |
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+ | == Final fit == | ||
Thus, a Minmatar Hurricane fitted for this particular skilled, passive tank would have a Peak Shield Regeneration rate of approximately 82 hp/sec. Again, for comparison, a medium Phased Plasma projectile does about 18 hp base shield damage plus 24 hp type damage; a medium Lead Hybrid charge does about 10 hp base shield damage plus 16 hp type damage. | Thus, a Minmatar Hurricane fitted for this particular skilled, passive tank would have a Peak Shield Regeneration rate of approximately 82 hp/sec. Again, for comparison, a medium Phased Plasma projectile does about 18 hp base shield damage plus 24 hp type damage; a medium Lead Hybrid charge does about 10 hp base shield damage plus 16 hp type damage. | ||
A complete fit might look like this: | A complete fit might look like this: | ||
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skills=Minmatar Frigate IV</li><li>Minmatar Cruiser III</li><li>Spaceship Command IV</li><li>Minmatar Battlecruiser II</li><li>Gunnery III</li><li>Sharpshooter IV</li><li>Small Projectile Turret V</li><li>Small Artillery Specialization IV</li><li>Capacitor Systems Operation V</li><li>Capacitor Management IV</li><li>Power Grid Management V</li><li>CPU Management V</li><li>Electronics Upgrades V</li><li>Long Range Targeting IV</li><li>Signature Analysis IV</li><li>Medium Projectile Turret V</li><li>Medium Artillery Specialization I</li><li>Missile Launcher Operation V</li><li>Shield Upgrades IV</li><li>Tactical Shield Manipulation IV</li><li>Afterburner IV</li><li>Energy Grid Upgrades IV</li><li>Target Management V</li><li>Advanced Target Management I</li><li>Navigation IV</li><li>Evasive Maneuvering III</li><li>Warp Drive Operation III</li><li>Hull Upgrades IV</li><li>Shield Management IV</li><li>Mechanic V</li><li>Gunnery V</li><li>Rapid Firing IV</li><li>Motion Prediction IV</li><li>Trajectory Analysis IV</li><li>Weapon Upgrades IV</li><li>Mechanic III</li><li>Jury Rigging III</li><li>Shield Rigging I</li><li>Scout Drone Operation V</li><li>Drones V</li><li>Gallente Drone Specialization I| | skills=Minmatar Frigate IV</li><li>Minmatar Cruiser III</li><li>Spaceship Command IV</li><li>Minmatar Battlecruiser II</li><li>Gunnery III</li><li>Sharpshooter IV</li><li>Small Projectile Turret V</li><li>Small Artillery Specialization IV</li><li>Capacitor Systems Operation V</li><li>Capacitor Management IV</li><li>Power Grid Management V</li><li>CPU Management V</li><li>Electronics Upgrades V</li><li>Long Range Targeting IV</li><li>Signature Analysis IV</li><li>Medium Projectile Turret V</li><li>Medium Artillery Specialization I</li><li>Missile Launcher Operation V</li><li>Shield Upgrades IV</li><li>Tactical Shield Manipulation IV</li><li>Afterburner IV</li><li>Energy Grid Upgrades IV</li><li>Target Management V</li><li>Advanced Target Management I</li><li>Navigation IV</li><li>Evasive Maneuvering III</li><li>Warp Drive Operation III</li><li>Hull Upgrades IV</li><li>Shield Management IV</li><li>Mechanic V</li><li>Gunnery V</li><li>Rapid Firing IV</li><li>Motion Prediction IV</li><li>Trajectory Analysis IV</li><li>Weapon Upgrades IV</li><li>Mechanic III</li><li>Jury Rigging III</li><li>Shield Rigging I</li><li>Scout Drone Operation V</li><li>Drones V</li><li>Gallente Drone Specialization I| | ||
notes=This is a passive shield tanked PvE fit suitable for L3 Security Missions</li><li>The mid slot hardeners should be swapped to match the damage type appropriate to the enemies the pilot expects to encounter. </li><li>With one shield hardener running, the capacitor is stable. A second hardener will run the capacitor down in about fifteen minutes. </li><li>If skills are insufficient for power, consider swapping a gyrostabilizer for an Auxilliary Power Control.</li>}} | notes=This is a passive shield tanked PvE fit suitable for L3 Security Missions</li><li>The mid slot hardeners should be swapped to match the damage type appropriate to the enemies the pilot expects to encounter. </li><li>With one shield hardener running, the capacitor is stable. A second hardener will run the capacitor down in about fifteen minutes. </li><li>If skills are insufficient for power, consider swapping a gyrostabilizer for an Auxilliary Power Control.</li>}} | ||
− | *This is a highly skilled fitting. Weapons and modules can be scaled back to meet pilot skills. Watch dps and shield recharge rate and try to balance the decline. | + | * This is a highly skilled fitting. Weapons and modules can be scaled back to meet pilot skills. Watch dps and shield recharge rate and try to balance the decline. |
− | *The mid slot hardeners should be swapped to match the damage type appropriate to the enemies the pilot expects to encounter. | + | * The mid slot hardeners should be swapped to match the damage type appropriate to the enemies the pilot expects to encounter. |
− | *With one shield hardener running, the [[ | + | * With one shield hardener running, the [[Capacitor#Stability|capacitor is stable]]. A second hardener will run the capacitor down in about fifteen minutes. Since this fit is intended for L2/L3 Security Missions, that should not be a problem. If it becomes a concern, consider replacing one of the low slot gyrostabilizers with a Capacitor Flux Coil. |
− | *Low slot modules can be replaced by Auxiliary Power Controls, Capacitor Flux Coils, and/or Power Diagnostic Systems as needed. | + | * Low slot modules can be replaced by Auxiliary Power Controls, Capacitor Flux Coils, and/or Power Diagnostic Systems as needed. |
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− | Certain ships are often fit out with passive tank. Rather than copy those fits here, this article links to their Wiki pages, where you can see the full information | + | === More example fits === |
+ | Certain ships are often fit out with passive tank. Rather than copy those fits here, this article links to their Wiki pages, where you can see the full information for each ship. | ||
− | *Caldari [[Drake]]: battlecruiser - level 3 mission runner, wormhole pve explorer | + | * Caldari [[Drake]]: battlecruiser - level 3 mission runner, wormhole pve explorer |
− | *Caldari [[Caracal]]: cruiser - level 2 mission runner | + | * Caldari [[Caracal]]: cruiser - level 2 mission runner |
− | *Gallente [[Myrmidon]]: battlecruiser - level 3 mission runner | + | * Gallente [[Myrmidon]]: battlecruiser - level 3 mission runner |
− | *Minmatar [[Rupture]]: cruiser - level 2 mission runner | + | * Minmatar [[Hurricane]]: battlecruiser - level 3 mission runner |
− | *Minmatar [[Stabber]]: cruiser - level 2 mission runner | + | * Minmatar [[Rupture]]: cruiser - level 2 mission runner |
− | *Minmatar [[Rifter]]: frigate - level 1/2 mission runner | + | * Minmatar [[Stabber]]: cruiser - level 2 mission runner |
+ | * Minmatar [[Rifter]]: frigate - level 1/2 mission runner | ||
− | [[Category:Fitting]] | + | [[Category:Fitting]][[Category:Fittings]] |
Latest revision as of 13:23, 11 January 2023
- This page covers the use of shields as a passive tanking strategy. As such, it focuses on the advantages of passive tanking and the process of fitting a ship to use a passive tank. For basic information about how shields work, see Shields.
Passive shield tanking (often shortened to simply passive tanking) is a method of tanking that relies on the ability of shields to recharge without the need for active modules. Instead, passive shield tanks rely on modules that increase this recharge rate, as well as the absolute amount of shield hit points a ship has.
The goal of a passive shield tank is enable a ship's shield to regenerate as quickly as it takes damage. Passive shield tanks work best in situations where damage is either fairly constant, or slowly increasing over a long period of time. It can also work in situations where the pilot is able to remove the ship from combat periodically to let their shields recharge. As such, passive shield tanking is most appropriate for use in PvE situations, where incoming damage is fairly predictable.
In particular, passive shield tanks can be effective on ships built for kiting or long-range combat tactics, both of which keep shield damage relatively low. As above, it can also be used when employing hit-and-run tactics as well.
Shield recharge rate
- Main article: Shields#Shield Recharge Rate
The shield regeneration rate increases by more than double as the shield takes damage. Since this change is a percentage, a ship that starts with a higher average regeneration rate will get a bigger boost in its optimum rate. In addition, since the shield regeneration time is constant, a larger shield will regenerate more hit points per second.
For example, these are all Caldari ships. Many Caldari ships prefer shield tanks.
Ship Type | Shield Capacity (hp) | Shield Regeneration Time (sec) | Average Regeneration Rate (C/T) |
---|---|---|---|
Kestrel (frigate) | 500 | 650 | 1.3 |
Corax (destroyer) | 950 | 625 | 1.5 |
Moa (cruiser) | 2500 | 1250 | 2.0 |
Drake (battlecruiser) | 5250 | 1400 | 3.75 |
Raven (battleship) | 7000 | 2500 | 2.8 |
Without any modules, and assuming the pilots had the same skills, the Drake would rebuild its shield almost three times faster than the Kestrel. The Raven would rebuild about twice as fast as the Corax, but slower than the Drake. All other things being equal, the Drake, with its large shield capacity and very fast recharge time, would make the best candidate for a passive shield tank.
These cruisers and battlecruisers provide a representative sample comparison of ships by faction.
Faction | Ship Type | Shield Capacity (hp) | Shield Regeneration Time (sec) | Average Regeneration Rate (C/T) |
---|---|---|---|---|
Drake | Battlecruiser | 5250 | 1400 | 3.8 |
Hurricane | Battlecruiser | 4250 | 1400 | 3.0 |
Brutix | Battlecruiser | 4000 | 1400 | 2.8 |
Harbinger | Battlecruiser | 3000 | 1400 | 2.1 |
Moa | Cruiser | 2500 | 1250 | 2.0 |
Stabber | Cruiser | 1600 | 1250 | 1.3 |
Thorax | Cruiser | 1200 | 1250 | 1.0 |
Omen | Cruiser | 1200 | 1250 | 1.0 |
The Caldari and Minmatar tend to have the larger shield capacities and higher shield recharge rates. Thus it is not surprising that ships of these factions are more likely to be shield tanked.
Combat situations
Because a passive tank depends on the shield's recharging, it works best in situations where the damage is constant or builds slowly over time. It works least well in situation where the shield will take a large amount of damage in a very short time. Passive tanking can be used, then in situations where the pilot can "kite" the enemies to control how much damage comes in – or in situations where the pilot is using long range weapons and depending on speed to keep away from enemy fire.
In fleet situations the assigned combat role may be a factor. If the ship is to be tackling other ships, for example, its mid power slots may be needed for e-war modules, and it may be exposed to high, brief peaks of damage - so an armor tank will likely be preferable.
Modules and rigs
The following influence the passive shield tank.
Unit | Slot | Capacitor Drain | Effect | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|
Shield Extender | mid | - | Capacity | increases Signature Radius |
Power Diagnostic System | low | low | Recharge Rate and Capacity | small benefit |
Shield Power Relay | low | - | Recharge Rate | reduces capacitor recharge rate |
Shield Flux Coil | low | - | Recharge Rate | lowers capacity |
Shield Recharger | mid | - | Recharge Rate | small benefit |
Damage Control | low | small | Resistances | limit of one per ship |
Shield Resistance Amplifier | mid | small | Resistances | stacking penalty |
Shield Hardener | mid | small | Resistances | stacking penalty |
Core Defense Field Purger | rig | - | Recharge Rate | increases Signature Radius |
Core Defense Field Extender | rig | - | Capacity | increases Signature Radius |
Screen Reinforcer | rig | - | Resistances | increases Signature Radius, stacking penalty |
Initial fit
The usual starting point is to try to fill several low slots with Shield Power Relay modules, several mid slots with Shield Extender modules, and to fit all three rig slots with Defense Field Purger rigs. Of course, this will need to be modified to fit slot availability, resists and other considerations, but it is a good place to start.
With that in mind, although Shield Power Relays reduce capacitor recharge rate, they have no stacking penalties, and they are the most powerful modules in terms of increasing shield regeneration.
Shield Extenders increase the capacity of the shield, and, because recharge time is a constant, this in turn increases the recharge rate. These modules have a Signature Radius penalty associated with them, and they impact on the power grid, but they have no stacking penalties, and their benefits outweigh these costs. In addition, it is often possible to "upsize" Shield Extenders ... putting Large Shield Extenders on a Cruiser, for example, or Medium Extenders on a Frigate. The increased buffer will also allow the ship to survive for a while even if incoming dps is higher than the recharge. This way the pilot can kill the dps enough to survive further.
Finally, Defense Field Purger rigs are almost always more effective than Defense Field Extender rigs in a passive shield fit. The extender increases the capacity of the shield, which does have the effect of also increasing its recharge rate. However, the Purger directly increases the recharge rate by enough to make a difference. The Purger does, however, have a larger impact on Signature Radius.
Possible alterations
- Most ships have "damage holes", a type of damage from which they are not well defended. A specific damage type shield hardener may need to be equipped to cover such holes. Hardener modules for other types of damage may be added to account for the primary damage types expected in the encounter. Keep in mind the stacking penalties that arise if a second hardener module is used to alter the same type of damage.
- If the pilot's skills are not sufficient to install T2 modules, substitutions may be in order. You will have to experiment with T1 modules ... or you may find it better to just wait until your skills improve.
- Once your tanking modules are set, check to see if your ship's capacitor is stable. If it isn't, and the amount is significant, consider swapping one or two Shield Power Relays for Shield Flux Coils. If you have to swap more than two Shield Relays for Flux Coils, consider putting back all but one of the Shield Power Relays and adding a Capacitor Power Relay.
Example
Consider the Hurricane, a Minmatar Battlecruiser.
- Base shield capacity: 4250 hp
- Base recharge time: 1400 sec
- Average regeneration rate = 4250 / 1400 = 3.0 hp/s
- Base peak regen rate = 2.5 x 3.0 = 7.5 hp/s
- Note that the Hurricane's shields are weakest for EM, followed by Thermal, damage.
Why put a passive tank on a Hurricane? As an L3 Security Mission runner:
- It has good shield capacity and a high recharge rate
- It has six low slots – 3 for Shield Power Relays and 3 for offensive modules
- For mission running the mid slots can be dedicated to propulsion and shields
- Bonuses to medium projectile turrets and six turret hardpoints support artillery for PVE
- Increases in signature radius matter less in PVE
Shield Power Relays
Shield power relays increase the recharge time directly. They have no stacking penalty, but they do reduce the recharge rate of the capacitor.
- Shield Power Relay II
- Recharge time bonus: -24%
- No shield support skills
- (Penalty: Capacitor Recharge Rate -35%)
The first module reduces the Recharge Time by 24%, from 1400 sec to 1400 - 336 = 1064 sec This gives a new Average Recharge Rate of 4250/1064 = 4.0 hp/sec And a new Peak Recharge Rate of 2.5 x 4.0 = 10.0 hp/s
Repeating the calculation:
Modules | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Recharge Time | 1064.0 | 808.6 | 614.3 | 466.9 | 354.9 | 269.7 |
Peak Regeneration Rate (rounded) | 10.0 | 13.1 | 17.3 | 22.8 | 30.0 | 39.3 |
While this illustrates the power of the module, fitting six of them to a ship would be unrealistic. Three modules is a common fit, with the other slots used for other purposes. Thus, with no other skills or fittings, three Shield Power Relays would increase the Peak Recharge Rate to 17.3 hitpoints per second.
For comparison, a medium Phased Plasma projectile does about 18 hp base shield damage plus 24 hp type damage; a medium Lead Hybrid charge does about 10 hp base shield damage plus 16 hp type damage.
Shield Extenders
Shield extenders add hitpoints to the Capacity of the shield. The do not have stacking penalties, but they do increase the Signature Radius of the ship.
- Large Shield Extender II
- Shield Capacity Bonus: 2600 hp
- No shield support skills
- (Penalty: Signature Radius 25 m)
Base recharge time: 1400 sec
Shield Capacity: 4250 + 2600 = 6850 hp
Average regeneration Rate = 6850 / 1400 = 4.9 hp/s
Peak Recharge Rate = 2.5 x 4.9 = 12.3 hp/s
The original base Peak Recharge Rate was 7.6 hp/s. So adding a large shield extender increases the recharge rate by 4.7 hp/s; an increase of 62%.
Core Defense Purger rigs
These rigs produce a percentage increase in Shield Recharge Rate. They have no stacking penalty, but they do increase the Signature Radius of the ship.
- Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
- Recharge Rate Bonus: -20%
- No shield support skills
- (Penalty: Signature Radius 10%)
Since these are usually the last items to be fitted, this example will build on a fit that includes one Large Shield Extender II and three Power Shield Relay IIs.
The bare ship had:
- Base shield capacity: 4250 hp
- Base recharge time: 1400 sec
- Average regeneration rate = 4250 / 1400 = 3.0 hp/s
- Base peak regeneration rate = 2.5 x 3.1 = 7.6 hp/s
After one Large Shield Extender II (see above):
- Shield capacity: 6850 hp
Three Power Shield Relay II (see above):
- Modules reduce recharge time @ -24%
- Shield capacity: 6850 hp
- Peak Recharge Rate = Shield Capacity/Recharge Time x 2.5
Modules | 1 | 2 | 3 |
---|---|---|---|
Recharge Time | 1064 | 808.6 | 614.3 |
Peak Regeneration Rate | 16.1 | 21.2 | 27.9 |
The Core Defense Purger Rigs impact on Recharge Rate in the same way that the Power Shield Relays do ... by reducing the Recharge Time by a percentage.
Three Core Defense Purger Rigs:
- Rigs reduce recharge time @ -20%
- Shield capacity: 6850 hp
- Starting Recharge Time: 614.3 sec
- Peak Recharge Rate = Shield Capacity/Recharge Time x 2.5
Rigs | 1 | 2 | 3 |
---|---|---|---|
Recharge Time | 491.4 | 393.1 | 314.4 |
Peak Regeneration Rate | 34.8 | 43.6 | 54.4 |
So with this fit in place, an no pilot shield skills, the Peak Shield Regeneration Rate will be 54.4 hp/sec.
Skills
Shield Management: 5% bonus to shield capacity per skill level
Shield Operation: 5% reduction in shield recharge time per skill level
Any pilot considering a passive shield tank would want to train these to at least Level IV. At that level, their effect would be considerable.
Shield Management @ Level IV
*20% increase in Shield Capacity
This would increase the Base Shield Capacity to: 4250 + 0.20 x 4250 = 5100 hitpoints
It would also increase the benefit of the Large Shield Extender II by 20%: 2600 + 0.20 x 2600 = 3120
Making the total shield capacity: 5100 + 3120 = 8220 hitpoints
Shield Operation @ Level IV
- 20% decrease in Shield Recharge Time
This would decrease the Base Shield Recharge Time: 1400 - 1400 x 0.20 = 1120
And that value would be used in the three Shield Relay computations followed by the 3 Core Purger Rig computations
- Relay @ -24%
- 851.2, 646.9, 491.6
- Purger @ -20%
- 393.2, 314.5, 251.6
giving a final Recharge Time of: 251.6 seconds
These two values compute the final Peak Recharge Rate.
Recharge Time: 251.6 sec Average Recharge Time = 8220/251.6 = 32.7 Peak Recharge Rate: 32.7 x 2.5 = 81.7 hp/sec
Final fit
Thus, a Minmatar Hurricane fitted for this particular skilled, passive tank would have a Peak Shield Regeneration rate of approximately 82 hp/sec. Again, for comparison, a medium Phased Plasma projectile does about 18 hp base shield damage plus 24 hp type damage; a medium Lead Hybrid charge does about 10 hp base shield damage plus 16 hp type damage. A complete fit might look like this:
650mm Artillery Cannon II
650mm Artillery Cannon II
650mm Artillery Cannon II
650mm Artillery Cannon II
650mm Artillery Cannon II
650mm Artillery Cannon II
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II
10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
EM Shield Hardener II
Thermal Shield Hardener II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Hobgoblin II x6
Republic Fleet Phased Plasma Mx1
Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile x1
- Minmatar Frigate IV
- Minmatar Cruiser III
- Spaceship Command IV
- Minmatar Battlecruiser II
- Gunnery III
- Sharpshooter IV
- Small Projectile Turret V
- Small Artillery Specialization IV
- Capacitor Systems Operation V
- Capacitor Management IV
- Power Grid Management V
- CPU Management V
- Electronics Upgrades V
- Long Range Targeting IV
- Signature Analysis IV
- Medium Projectile Turret V
- Medium Artillery Specialization I
- Missile Launcher Operation V
- Shield Upgrades IV
- Tactical Shield Manipulation IV
- Afterburner IV
- Energy Grid Upgrades IV
- Target Management V
- Advanced Target Management I
- Navigation IV
- Evasive Maneuvering III
- Warp Drive Operation III
- Hull Upgrades IV
- Shield Management IV
- Mechanic V
- Gunnery V
- Rapid Firing IV
- Motion Prediction IV
- Trajectory Analysis IV
- Weapon Upgrades IV
- Mechanic III
- Jury Rigging III
- Shield Rigging I
- Scout Drone Operation V
- Drones V
- Gallente Drone Specialization I
- This is a passive shield tanked PvE fit suitable for L3 Security Missions
- The mid slot hardeners should be swapped to match the damage type appropriate to the enemies the pilot expects to encounter.
- With one shield hardener running, the capacitor is stable. A second hardener will run the capacitor down in about fifteen minutes.
- If skills are insufficient for power, consider swapping a gyrostabilizer for an Auxilliary Power Control.
- This is a highly skilled fitting. Weapons and modules can be scaled back to meet pilot skills. Watch dps and shield recharge rate and try to balance the decline.
- The mid slot hardeners should be swapped to match the damage type appropriate to the enemies the pilot expects to encounter.
- With one shield hardener running, the capacitor is stable. A second hardener will run the capacitor down in about fifteen minutes. Since this fit is intended for L2/L3 Security Missions, that should not be a problem. If it becomes a concern, consider replacing one of the low slot gyrostabilizers with a Capacitor Flux Coil.
- Low slot modules can be replaced by Auxiliary Power Controls, Capacitor Flux Coils, and/or Power Diagnostic Systems as needed.
More example fits
Certain ships are often fit out with passive tank. Rather than copy those fits here, this article links to their Wiki pages, where you can see the full information for each ship.
- Caldari Drake: battlecruiser - level 3 mission runner, wormhole pve explorer
- Caldari Caracal: cruiser - level 2 mission runner
- Gallente Myrmidon: battlecruiser - level 3 mission runner
- Minmatar Hurricane: battlecruiser - level 3 mission runner
- Minmatar Rupture: cruiser - level 2 mission runner
- Minmatar Stabber: cruiser - level 2 mission runner
- Minmatar Rifter: frigate - level 1/2 mission runner