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ROE addition- Outlaws in hisec?

== Killfeed Link updated needed ==

While looking over the rules, I noticed that the killfeed link (currently linked as http://killfeed.eve-ivy.com/) is no longer a valid link and simply redirects to the eveuniversity.org frontpage. A bit of searching found that the new link is http://killfeed.eveuniversity.org/. I was going to update it, but it seems that only higher-ups are able to edit the Rules page (which makes a lot of sense).

Anyone who has edit privileges might want to update the link to the new one.

[[User:Starbuilder stasarik|Starbuilder stasarik]] ([[User talk:Starbuilder stasarik|talk]]) 15:33, 30 September 2015 (CDT)

== ROE addition- Outlaws in hisec? ==

Today, someone asked about outlaws in hisec, and there is no explicit ROE for that. People keep asking, (they think they can catch pods) so might as well stick it in. Also, it should probably include an overview note in there, saying that good/high-standing MUST be higher than outlaw status, so people don't wind up podding an ally. [[User:Smoogle|Smoogle]] 08:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

== Claimable NullSec ==

At least for the next two weeks, all activity in sovnull other than structure bashing is allowed - should we edit this page to reflect that rule change, or wait for it to be made permanent?

--[[User:Raido Kudonen|Raido Kudonen]] 1407, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

In the section regarding Claimable NullSec, I recommend adding the following blurb:

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It is important to understand that these dynamics are to be expected. Regardless of how it happens, the vast majority of University members outgrow this organization and leave. This is not a defect -- it is the University fulfilling its mission.

Policy action and reinforcement, at its best, does not come from being jaded or egotistical. It comes from the experience of what is necessary to keep the University intact and successful. Espionage, intrigue and interpersonal dramas are not merely a by-product of social structures within Eve Online, as they may be in other MMO games. Instead, they are an encouraged feature. In this environment, the University's goal of maintaining an open and agreeable corporation is effectively equivalent to swimming upstream. The University aims to provide an environment of learning and camaraderie. Boundaries are necessary to maintain the environment the University provides, and those boundaries may be enforced with ruthless efficiency and unwavering resolve. Execution of these policies has nothing to do with bringing you down or stifling your creativity. It has everything to do with the University continuing to be available for transforming the new and inexperienced into competent and streetwise citizens of New Eden.

Policy action and reinforcement, at its best, does not come from being jaded or egotistical. It comes from the experience of what is necessary to keep the University intact and successful. Espionage, intrigue and interpersonal dramas are not merely a by-product of social structures within Eve Online, as they may be in other MMO games. Instead, they are an encouraged feature. In this environment, the University's goal of maintaining an open and agreeable corporation is effectively equivalent to swimming upstream. The University aims to provide an environment of learning and camaraderie. Boundaries are necessary to maintain the environment the University provides, and those boundaries may be enforced with ruthless efficiency and unwavering resolve. Execution of these policies has nothing to do with bringing you down, stifling your creativity or ruining your fun. It has everything to do with the University continuing to be available for transforming the new and inexperienced into competent and streetwise citizens of New Eden.

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I like this, but I would suggest that it should be pithier. Parts of the first paragraph, for example, read to me like a letter from local government ('policy enforcement actions', 'sometimes harsh', 'negative perceptions', 'a situation more personally compatible', 'recourse for satisfaction'). --[[User:Uryence|Uryence]] 21:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

== Communication Policy - Hostile Parties ==

Might want to specify what an hostile party is. People with low standings often wander into the E-Uni channel and I'm not sure if I should communicate with them or not at all. I also have had people telling me it's OK to communicate with certain individuals.

There really needs to be a clear rule about this. Make it specific if need be.

[[User:Jenna sol|Jenna sol]] 23:29, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

== Proposal - Fleet Class Outside Uni (After "Mixed Membership Fleets") ==

You may fly in fleets as part of E-Uni approved classes offered outside of the E-Uni without dropping corp. Please remember that in any of these fleets our Rules of Engagement and allowable areas are still in effect, and take precedence at all times over commands from your class FC. In some instances, E-Uni might provide representatives who can assist with clarifications during the fleet portion of the class. Please maintain the standard E-Uni overview even if an external class recommends their own settings.

== W-Space out of date ==

The W-space section still says you need to proceed immediately from Claimable Null to "authorised space". Since you can now freely travel in Claimable Null, this bit can be deleted. [[User:Thabink|Thabink]] ([[User talk:Thabink|talk]]) 11:11, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

== Reporting to diplomat ==

I think a clarification about talking to a diplomat is needed. Since the change to NBSI in low sec, we are free to engage or be

engaged by neutrals, it would be kind of strange to have to report all engagements in low.

So I propose the note in the rules of engagement to be changed into: "Remember to notify a diplomat if attacked by a neutral in high sec"

[[User:Aldaran Kurvora|Aldaran Kurvora]] 21:23, 03 September 2014 (UTC)

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-ROE addition-  Outlaws in hisec?
+== Killfeed Link updated needed ==
+While looking over the rules, I noticed that the killfeed link (currently linked as http://killfeed.eve-ivy.com/) is no longer a valid link and simply redirects to the eveuniversity.org frontpage. A bit of searching found that the new link is http://killfeed.eveuniversity.org/. I was going to update it, but it seems that only higher-ups are able to edit the Rules page (which makes a lot of sense).
+Anyone who has edit privileges might want to update the link to the new one.
+[[User:Starbuilder stasarik|Starbuilder stasarik]] ([[User talk:Starbuilder stasarik|talk]]) 15:33, 30 September 2015 (CDT)
+== ROE addition-  Outlaws in hisec? ==
 Today, someone asked about outlaws in hisec, and there is no explicit ROE for that.  People keep asking, (they think they can catch pods) so might as well stick it in.  Also, it should probably include an overview note in there, saying that good/high-standing MUST be higher than outlaw status, so people don't wind up podding an ally. [[User:Smoogle|Smoogle]] 08:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
 == Claimable NullSec ==
+At least for the next two weeks, all activity in sovnull other than structure bashing is allowed - should we edit this page to reflect that rule change, or wait for it to be made permanent?
+--[[User:Raido Kudonen|Raido Kudonen]] 1407, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
 In the section regarding Claimable NullSec, I recommend adding the following blurb:
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 It is important to understand that these dynamics are to be expected.  Regardless of how it happens, the vast majority of University members outgrow this organization and leave.  This is not a defect -- it is the University fulfilling its mission.
-Policy action and reinforcement, at its best, does not come from being jaded or egotistical.  It comes from the experience of what is necessary to keep the University intact and successful.  Espionage, intrigue and interpersonal dramas are not merely a by-product of social structures within Eve Online, as they may be in other MMO games.  Instead, they are an encouraged feature.  In this environment, the University's goal of maintaining an open and agreeable corporation is effectively equivalent to swimming upstream.  The University aims to provide an environment of learning and camaraderie.  Boundaries are necessary to maintain the environment the University provides, and those boundaries may be enforced with ruthless efficiency and unwavering resolve.  Execution of these policies has nothing to do with bringing you down or stifling your creativity.  It has everything to do with the University continuing to be available for transforming the new and inexperienced into competent and streetwise citizens of New Eden.
+Policy action and reinforcement, at its best, does not come from being jaded or egotistical.  It comes from the experience of what is necessary to keep the University intact and successful.  Espionage, intrigue and interpersonal dramas are not merely a by-product of social structures within Eve Online, as they may be in other MMO games.  Instead, they are an encouraged feature.  In this environment, the University's goal of maintaining an open and agreeable corporation is effectively equivalent to swimming upstream.  The University aims to provide an environment of learning and camaraderie.  Boundaries are necessary to maintain the environment the University provides, and those boundaries may be enforced with ruthless efficiency and unwavering resolve.  Execution of these policies has nothing to do with bringing you down, stifling your creativity or ruining your fun.  It has everything to do with the University continuing to be available for transforming the new and inexperienced into competent and streetwise citizens of New Eden.
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+I like this, but I would suggest that it should be pithier. Parts of the first paragraph, for example, read to me like a letter from local government ('policy enforcement actions', 'sometimes harsh', 'negative perceptions', 'a situation more personally compatible', 'recourse for satisfaction'). --[[User:Uryence|Uryence]] 21:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
+== Communication Policy - Hostile Parties ==
+Might want to specify what an hostile party is. People with low standings often wander into the E-Uni channel and I'm not sure if I should communicate with them or not at all. I also have had people telling me it's OK to communicate with certain individuals.
+There really needs to be a clear rule about this. Make it specific if need be.
+[[User:Jenna sol|Jenna sol]] 23:29, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
+== Proposal - Fleet Class Outside Uni (After "Mixed Membership Fleets") ==
+You may fly in fleets as part of E-Uni approved classes offered outside of the E-Uni without dropping corp. Please remember that in any of these fleets our Rules of Engagement and allowable areas are still in effect, and take precedence at all times over commands from your class FC. In some instances, E-Uni might provide representatives who can assist with clarifications during the fleet portion of the class. Please maintain the standard E-Uni overview even if an external class recommends their own settings.
+== W-Space out of date ==
+The W-space section still says you need to proceed immediately from Claimable Null to "authorised space". Since you can now freely travel in Claimable Null, this bit can be deleted. [[User:Thabink|Thabink]] ([[User talk:Thabink|talk]]) 11:11, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
+== Reporting to diplomat ==
+I think a clarification about talking to a diplomat is needed. Since the change to NBSI in low sec, we are free to engage or be
+engaged by neutrals, it would be kind of strange to have to report all engagements in low.
+So I propose the note in the rules of engagement to be changed into: "Remember to notify a diplomat if attacked by a neutral in high sec"
+[[User:Aldaran Kurvora|Aldaran Kurvora]] 21:23, 03 September 2014 (UTC)