Latest revision as of 15:23, 13 March 2024

The information presented here represents how we do things in the EVE University Incursion Community. It does not represent the best or only way to run Incursions. We make some compromises when it comes to efficiency for the sake of additional safety to create an environment where anyone can step up and learn a new role.

Planning ahead

Unless you are already heavily invested into a certain race or weapon system, it might be a good idea to think of which logistics ship or marauder you'll want in the end, rather than what your first incursion ship should be. You should also consider secondary value of whatever you train, perhaps you can find an end-of-the-line ship that not only furthers your goals for incursions but other goals as well given the skills you'll end up training for it.

See ship progression for more information.

	Attribute implants The training times listed for these will assume that you utilize +3 attribute implants (see the +3 Implants Program for unistas to get started). These implants are cheap and gives you a much needed boost to your training times.
	Neural remaps Normally one should be careful about remaps and not spend them needlessly. However, if you are making an alt knowing that it will only train for a month or two and not train anything else after that point, consider using all the remaps.
	Multiple character training PLEX can be used to activate Multiple Character Training. If you want to use the characters at the same time, or plan on training for a long time, consider making a second account instead as characters on the same account cannot be logged in at the same time.
	Skill injectors Skill injectors can be used to get these skills, but they are very expensive. It can however be an option to quickly get an alt up to speed if you've got the ISK lying around and you value time more than ISK.

In-game corporate skill plans

See: EVE University Corporation Skill Plans

The Minimum Damage Dealer, Minimum Logistics, and Minimum Ongrid Booster plans are available as a set of in-game skill plans.

EVE University members may directly access the plans through the Corporate Skill Plan utility. Non-members may access the plans using the links on this page, as described below.

EVE University Members: To find these skill plans, choose "Skill Plans > Corporation Plans", on your in-game Skills interface.

Where to find the in-game Corporate Skill Plans

All Players: The skill plans shown later on this page each have their in-game Corporate Skill plan name listed, along with text that can be copied to produce a link to the skill plan in-game. To utilize the link, copy all text listed after the "Corporate Skill Plan link" for the plan you want to generate a link for, including the leading <url> and trailing </url>. Then paste this string of text into your in-game notepad, and the game will automatically convert the pasted text into a link, which can then be used or shared.

The copy-and-paste link method described above, can be used by characters outside of EVE University, to access the EVE University skill plans.

A link to the Skill Plans can also be generated and shared in-game from the plans themselves.

Damage dealers

The majority of the skills we ask you to train are core fitting and support skills that'll help you fit and fly most ships better. Even the combat skills are mostly general gunnery or drone support skills you'd train as well if you did anything combat related in EVE.

Minimum skills for damage dealers

This skillplan is available to all pilots, regardless of clone state.

Getting the minimum skills for a damage dealer requires a couple of months worth of training for Omega clones (times should be doubled when training on an Alpha clone). This assumes a training plan for a turret-based battleship, done on a brand new character with no preexisting skills, and that no skill injectors are used.

EVE University Corporate Skill Plan Name: EUni - Incursion Community Baseline DD Skillplan
Corporate Skill Plan link: <url=skillPlan:6a26a952-300a-49a8-8a5a-beebcc18fe92:917701062>EUni - Incursion Community Baseline DD Skillplan</url>

Core skills	Utility skills	Gunnery skills	Ship skills	Drone skills
~ 16 days and 1 hour	~ 2 days and 10 hours	~ 11 days and 22 hours	~ 4 days and 22 hours	~ 7 days and 1 hours
Weapon Upgrades IV Capacitor Management IV Thermodynamics I EM Armor Compensation II Thermal Armor Compensation II Kinetic Armor Compensation II Explosive Armor Compensation II Hull Upgrades V Energy Grid Upgrades IV	Signature Analysis III Long Range Targeting III Target Management IV Target Painting I ^[1] Propulsion Jamming III ^[2] Armor Rigging III	Gunnery V Motion Prediction III ^[3] Rapid Firing III ^[3] Sharpshooter III ^[3] Surgical Strike III Trajectory Analysis IV Controlled Bursts III Small <racial> Turret III ^[4] Medium <racial> Turret III Large <racial> Turret III	Spaceship Command IV <racial> Frigate III ^[4] <racial> Destroyer III <racial> Cruiser III <racial> Battlecruiser III <racial> Battleship III Warp Drive Operation III Evasive Maneuvering III	Drones V Light Drone Operation III Drone Interfacing III Drone Navigation III Drone Sharpshooting III Drone Avionics III Drone Durability I Repair Drone Operation II Remote Armor Repair Systems III
~ 42 days and 8 hours worth of Omega state training in total (~ 2.1 million skillpoints)

^ Target Painting is needed for the target painter module. Can be skipped for Vindicator pilots (see Propulsion Jamming).
^ Propulsion Jamming is needed for the stasis webifier module normally fitted to T1 battleships and the Vindicator. Other ships may also fit this module situationally, from time to time.
^ ^a ^b ^c Having Motion Prediction, Rapid Firing, Sharpshooter and Controlled Bursts at III are all that's needed to get started, though it is recommended to train these skills to IV as soon as possible if you wish to invest further into Incursions.
^ ^a ^b <racial> Frigate III and Small <racial> Turret III are starter skills you normally have, but are included in case you have to cross-train out of your initial race.

Skill Plans

Listed below are the training plans for a general damage dealer, as well as specific skills for particular ships. These can be copied into your skill queue to train. The skills are not ordered in any sort of preference, so feel free to move them around as you see fit.

INC Armor DD Skillplan
This skillplan contains all the minimum DD skills, not including ship/weapon specific skills.
Expand this box to view a Skill queue to use in-game

Mechanics 1
Mechanics 2
Mechanics 3
Jury Rigging 1
Jury Rigging 2
Jury Rigging 3
Armor Rigging 1
Armor Rigging 2
Armor Rigging 3
Power Grid Management 1
Power Grid Management 2
Power Grid Management 3
Capacitor Management 1
Capacitor Management 2
Capacitor Management 3
Capacitor Management 4
Gunnery 1
Gunnery 2
Controlled Bursts 1
Controlled Bursts 2
Controlled Bursts 3
Drones 1
Drone Avionics 1
Drone Avionics 2
Drone Avionics 3
Drones 2
Drones 3
Drones 4
Drone Durability 1
Drones 5
Drone Interfacing 1
Drone Interfacing 2
Drone Interfacing 3
Drone Navigation 1
Drone Navigation 2
Drone Navigation 3
Drone Sharpshooting 1
Drone Sharpshooting 2
Drone Sharpshooting 3
Hull Upgrades 1
Hull Upgrades 2
Hull Upgrades 3
Hull Upgrades 4
EM Armor Compensation 1
EM Armor Compensation 2
Science 1
Energy Grid Upgrades 1
Energy Grid Upgrades 2
Energy Grid Upgrades 3
Energy Grid Upgrades 4
Navigation 1
Navigation 2
Evasive Maneuvering 1
Evasive Maneuvering 2
Evasive Maneuvering 3
Explosive Armor Compensation 1
Explosive Armor Compensation 2
Gunnery 3
Gunnery 4
Gunnery 5
Hull Upgrades 5
Kinetic Armor Compensation 1
Kinetic Armor Compensation 2
Light Drone Operation 1
Light Drone Operation 2
Light Drone Operation 3
CPU Management 1
CPU Management 2
Long Range Targeting 1
Long Range Targeting 2
Long Range Targeting 3
Motion Prediction 1
Motion Prediction 2
Motion Prediction 3
CPU Management 3
Propulsion Jamming 1
Propulsion Jamming 2
Propulsion Jamming 3
Rapid Firing 1
Rapid Firing 2
Rapid Firing 3
Repair Systems 1
Repair Systems 2
Remote Armor Repair Systems 1
Remote Armor Repair Systems 2
Remote Armor Repair Systems 3
Repair Drone Operation 1
Repair Drone Operation 2
Sharpshooter 1
Sharpshooter 2
Sharpshooter 3
Signature Analysis 1
Signature Analysis 2
Signature Analysis 3
Spaceship Command 1
Spaceship Command 2
Spaceship Command 3
Spaceship Command 4
Surgical Strike 1
Surgical Strike 2
Surgical Strike 3
Target Management 1
Target Management 2
Target Management 3
Target Management 4
Target Painting 1
Thermal Armor Compensation 1
Thermal Armor Compensation 2
Science 2
Science 3
Science 4
Power Grid Management 4
Thermodynamics 1
Trajectory Analysis 1
Trajectory Analysis 2
Trajectory Analysis 3
Trajectory Analysis 4
Warp Drive Operation 1
Warp Drive Operation 2
Warp Drive Operation 3
Weapon Upgrades 1
Weapon Upgrades 2
Weapon Upgrades 3
Weapon Upgrades 4

Apocalypse Navy Issue

Amarr Frigate I
Amarr Frigate II
Amarr Frigate III
Amarr Destroyer I
Amarr Destroyer II
Amarr Destroyer III
Amarr Cruiser I
Amarr Cruiser II
Amarr Cruiser III
Amarr Battlecruiser I
Amarr Battlecruiser II
Amarr Battlecruiser III
Amarr Battleship I
Amarr Battleship II
Amarr Battleship III
Small Energy Turret I
Small Energy Turret II
Small Energy Turret III
Medium Energy Turret I
Medium Energy Turret II
Medium Energy Turret III
Large Energy Turret I
Large Energy Turret II
Large Energy Turret III

Megathron

Gallente Frigate I
Gallente Frigate II
Gallente Frigate III
Gallente Destroyer I
Gallente Destroyer II
Gallente Destroyer III
Gallente Cruiser I
Gallente Cruiser II
Gallente Cruiser III 
Gallente Battlecruiser I
Gallente Battlecruiser II
Gallente Battlecruiser III
Gallente Battleship I
Gallente Battleship II
Gallente Battleship III
Small Hybrid Turret I
Small Hybrid Turret II
Small Hybrid Turret III
Medium Hybrid Turret I
Medium Hybrid Turret II
Medium Hybrid Turret III
Large Hybrid Turret I
Large Hybrid Turret II
Large Hybrid Turret III

Praxis (Pulse)

Small Energy Turret I
Small Energy Turret II
Small Energy Turret III
Medium Energy Turret I
Medium Energy Turret II
Medium Energy Turret III
Large Energy Turret I
Large Energy Turret II
Large Energy Turret III

Praxis (Blaster)

Small Hybrid Turret I
Small Hybrid Turret II
Small Hybrid Turret III
Medium Hybrid Turret I
Medium Hybrid Turret II
Medium Hybrid Turret III
Large Hybrid Turret I
Large Hybrid Turret II
Large Hybrid Turret III

EVEMon

The skills listed in the training plans can be easily copied and pasted into EVEMon using the Clipboard Import button after having created a new EVEMon Skill Plan.

Recommended skills for damage dealers

This skillplan is restricted to pilots in the Omega clone state.

Apart from the minimum skills listed above to get going, there are more skills that you can get once you start running.

Developing general skills to improve the overall performance of your ship can reap benefits in and out of Incursions.
Developing skills to run headquarter sites with public communities (strong emphasis on cap and propulsion).
- Public communities will have their own doctrines and skill requirements. The ones listed here are general recommendations.
Training into tech two weapons bring much needed flexibility and range projection, even for regular tech one battleships.
- While we use mostly short range weapons, consider training into the long range specialization as well.
Some ships can fit target painters or remote capacitor transmitters, which require a few skills to be useful.
Improving your drones with skills for tech 2 variants, or larger kinds of drones, can provide additional damage at low cost.
Training into a Marauder provides the largest damage boost you can get for your character in highsec Incursions, but takes a while.

General skills	Headquarters	Tech two weapons	Utility skills	Drones	Marauders
~ 37 days and 9 hours	~ 25 days and 13 hours	~ 35 days and 4 hours	~ 3 days and 21 hours	~ 9 days and 17 hours	~ 93 days and 14 hours
Evasive Maneuvering V Spaceship Command V Signature Analysis V Rapid Firing V Surgical Strike IV Biology V	EM Armor Compensation IV Thermal Armor Compensation IV Kinetic Armor Compensation IV Explosive Armor Compensation IV Capacitor Systems Operation V Electronic Warfare IV ^[1] Advanced Drone Avionics III Navigation V Acceleration Control III High Speed Maneuvering IV Micro Jump Drive Operation III	Motion Prediction V Large <racial> Turret V Large <short> Specialization II Sharpshooter V ^[2] Large <long> Specialization III ^[2]	Electronic Warfare III ^[3] Frequency Modulation III Long Distance Jamming III Target Painting III Capacitor Emission Systems IV Thermodynamics III	Light Drone Operation V ^[4] Amarr Drone Specialization II ^[4] Drone Interfacing IV Heavy Drone Operation III ^[5]	<racial> Battleship V Energy Grid Upgrades V ^[6] Advanced Weapon Upgrades V ^[6] Marauders IV Repair Systems V

^ Electronic Warfare IV is a requirement for Advanced Drone Avionics.
^ ^a ^b Optional - Consider spending an additional 9 days and 19 hours training into the long range specialization as well
^ Electronic Warfare III is needed for Frequency Modulation and Long Distance Jamming.
^ ^a ^b Training Light Drone Operation V unlocks T2 drones, which deal slightly more damage (with levels in Amarr Drone Specialization for Acolytes) and cost several times less than faction versions.
^ - While heavy drones are not used in Vanguards, they see common use in Headquarters fleets. HQ groups will generally require pilots of Vindicators and Kronii to use heavy drones.
^ ^a ^b Energy Grid Upgrades V and Advanced Weapon Upgrades V are prerequisites of Marauders.

Logistics

Training for logistics is considerably more time-consuming than that of a regular damage dealer. Please remember that when you think the above mentioned skills for a damage dealer is a long train. The bare minimum to make the logistics ships work is Logistics Cruisers IV, there is practically no way to make these ships function with lower skills than that. The reason for that is because the skill heavily influences the cap usage of remote repair modules as well as capacitor transmitters.

Minimum skills for logistics

This skillplan is restricted to pilots in the Omega clone state.

It takes almost three months to get good enough skills to fly a minimum logistics fit and you should try to skill up and upgrade to the recommended fit as soon as possible. The additional remote tracking computers can significantly improve the overall performance of the fleet.

EVE University Corporate Skill Plan Name: EUni - Incursion Community Minimum Logi Skillplan
Corporate Skill Plan link: <url=skillPlan:74618cda-a6b1-4e63-90e0-58c7f3859249:917701062>EUni - Incursion Community Minimum Logi Skillplan</url>

Core skills	Utility skills	Logistics skills	Ship skills	Drone skills
~ 22 days and 1 hours	~ 20 days and 21 hours	~ 4 days and 14 hours	~ 32 days and 8 hours	~ 5 days and 14 hours
Capacitor Management IV Capacitor Systems Operation IV Energy Grid Upgrades IV ^[1] EM Armor Compensation IV Thermal Armor Compensation IV Kinetic Armor Compensation IV Explosive Armor Compensation IV Hull Upgrades V	Signature Analysis V ^[2] Long Range Targeting V ^[2] Target Management V ^[3] Advanced Target Management III	Remote Armor Repair Systems IV Sensor Linking IV	Gallente Frigate III ^[4] Gallente Destroyer III Gallente Cruiser V Logistics Cruisers IV Evasive Maneuvering III Warp Drive Operation III	Drones V Drone Durability I ^[5] Repair Drone Operation II ^[5] Drone Navigation III Drone Avionics III Remote Armor Repair Systems III ^[6]
~ 85 days and 10 hours worth of training (~ 4,2 million skillpoints)

^ Energy Grid Upgrades is required for the cap, power diagnostic and reactor control modules.
^ ^a ^b Signature Analysis V and Long Range Targeting V are requirements for the Logistics Cruisers skill.
^ Target Management V is a requirement for the Advanced Target Management skill.
^ Gallente Frigate III is a starter skill for Gallente characters.
^ ^a ^b Drone Durability I and Repair Drone Operation II are required to use armor maintenance bots.
^ Remote Armor Repair Systems IV is already trained as a requirement for the Remote Armor Repairer II module.

Skill Plan

INC Armor Logi Skillplan
This skillplan contains all the minimum logi skills to fly an Oneiros.
Expand this box to view a Skill queue to use in-game

CPU Management 1
Target Management 1
Target Management 2
Target Management 3
Target Management 4
Target Management 5
Advanced Target Management 1
Advanced Target Management 2
Advanced Target Management 3
Power Grid Management 1
Power Grid Management 2
Power Grid Management 3
Capacitor Management 1
Capacitor Management 2
Capacitor Management 3
Capacitor Management 4
Capacitor Systems Operation 1
Capacitor Systems Operation 2
Capacitor Systems Operation 3
Capacitor Systems Operation 4
Drones 1
Drone Avionics 1
Drone Avionics 2
Drone Avionics 3
Drones 2
Drones 3
Drones 4
Drone Durability 1
Drone Navigation 1
Drone Navigation 2
Drone Navigation 3
Drones 5
Mechanics 1
Hull Upgrades 1
Hull Upgrades 2
Hull Upgrades 3
Hull Upgrades 4
EM Armor Compensation 1
EM Armor Compensation 2
EM Armor Compensation 3
EM Armor Compensation 4
Science 1
Energy Grid Upgrades 1
Energy Grid Upgrades 2
Energy Grid Upgrades 3
Energy Grid Upgrades 4
Navigation 1
Navigation 2
Evasive Maneuvering 1
Evasive Maneuvering 2
Evasive Maneuvering 3
Explosive Armor Compensation 1
Explosive Armor Compensation 2
Explosive Armor Compensation 3
Explosive Armor Compensation 4
Spaceship Command 1
Gallente Frigate 1
Gallente Frigate 2
Gallente Frigate 3
Gallente Destroyer 1
Gallente Destroyer 2
Gallente Destroyer 3
Spaceship Command 2
Gallente Cruiser 1
Gallente Cruiser 2
Gallente Cruiser 3
Gallente Cruiser 4
Gallente Cruiser 5
Hull Upgrades 5
Kinetic Armor Compensation 1
Kinetic Armor Compensation 2
Kinetic Armor Compensation 3
Kinetic Armor Compensation 4
Signature Analysis 1
Signature Analysis 2
Signature Analysis 3
Signature Analysis 4
Signature Analysis 5
CPU Management 2
Long Range Targeting 1
Long Range Targeting 2
Long Range Targeting 3
Long Range Targeting 4
Long Range Targeting 5
Spaceship Command 3
Logistics Cruisers 1
Logistics Cruisers 2
Logistics Cruisers 3
Logistics Cruisers 4
CPU Management 3
Repair Drone Operation 1
Repair Drone Operation 2
Repair Systems 1
Repair Systems 2
Mechanics 2
Mechanics 3
Remote Armor Repair Systems 1
Remote Armor Repair Systems 2
Remote Armor Repair Systems 3
Remote Armor Repair Systems 4
Sensor Linking 1
Sensor Linking 2
Sensor Linking 3
Sensor Linking 4
Thermal Armor Compensation 1
Thermal Armor Compensation 2
Thermal Armor Compensation 3
Thermal Armor Compensation 4
Warp Drive Operation 1
Warp Drive Operation 2
Warp Drive Operation 3

Recommended skills for logistics

This skillplan is restricted to pilots in the Omega clone state.

Since the minimum skills only gets you so far, it's important to continue training into the recommended logistics fit for logistics.

Advanced ^[1]	Drone skills
~ 55 days and 3 hours	~ 15 days and 9 hours
Power Grid Management V Capacitor Systems Operation V Logistics Cruisers V Remote Armor Repair Systems V Capacitor Management V	Repair Drone Operation V

^ This assumes you've already trained the skills listed under recommended.

Skill List

Listed below are the recommended skills above compiled into a list. It can be copied into your skill queue to train or create a skill plan from. The skills are ordered alphabetically, but feel free to move them around as you see fit.

Recommended logistics skills
Power Grid Management V Capacitor Systems Operation V Logistics Cruisers V Remote Armor Repair Systems V Capacitor Management V Repair Drone Operation V

Ongrid booster

Training into an ongrid booster requires quite a few months worth of training, even if you're doing it on an existing character. This is due to the fact it requires skills you normally wouldn't train unless you're specifically training to use command bursts. It's also a very long one that benefits greatly from using neural remaps.

Minimum skills for ongrid boosters

This skillplan is restricted to pilots in the Omega clone state.

Since Cybernetics V is required for the mindlink implant, consider training it first so you can also get +5 attribute implants and further improving your training time. The times listed below are, like all the other skill plans, assuming just the +3 attribute implants and no neural remaps. So there's plenty of room for optimization. These minimum skills will allow you to fly any of the minimum ongrid booster fits for vanguards.

EVE University Corporate Skill Plan Name: EUni - Incursion Community OGB Skillplan
Corporate Skill Plan link: <url=skillPlan:1356dae5-90a8-472e-b069-3a2689544b87:917701062>EUni - Incursion Community OGB Skillplan</url>

Core skills	Utility skills	Ship skills	Fleet support skills	Drone skills	Logibooster skills
~ 21 days and 12 hours	~ 12 days and 9 hours	~ 63 days and 13 hours	~ 89 days and 18 hours	~ 12 days and 9 hours	~ 10 days and 10 hours
CPU Management V EM Armor Compensation IV Thermal Armor Compensation IV Kinetic Armor Compensation IV Explosive Armor Compensation IV Hull Upgrades V	Signature Analysis V Long Range Targeting IV Target Management IV Advanced Target Management III	Gallente Frigate III Gallente Destroyer III Gallente Cruiser III Gallente Battlecruiser V Leadership V ^[1] Spaceship Command V ^[1] Wing Command IV ^[1] Command Burst Specialist IV ^[1] Command Ships IV Warp Drive Operation III Evasive Maneuvering III	Cybernetics V ^[2] Armored Command V ^[3] Armored Command Specialist V ^[2] Skirmish Command V ^[4] Skirmish Command Specialist V ^[2] Leadership V ^[5] Command Burst Specialist IV ^[5] Wing Command IV ^[5]	Drones V Light Drone Operation V Amarr Drone Specialization III ^[6] Drone Interfacing III Drone Navigation III Drone Sharpshooting III Drone Avionics III	Remote Armor Repair Systems IV Capacitor Management IV Capacitor Systems Operation V Sensor Linking III Magnetometric Sensor Compensation III Drone Durability I^[7] Repair Drone Operation II^[7]
~ 209 days, 22 hours worth of training (~ 10.3 million skillpoints)

^ ^a ^b ^c ^d Leadership V, Wing Command IV, Command Burst Specialist IV and Spaceship Command V are all needed to train Command Ships.
^ ^a ^b ^c Cybernetics V, Armored Command Specialist V and Skirmish Command Specialist V are needed for the Federation Navy Command Mindlink implant.
^ Armored Command V is a requirement for Armored Command Specialist.
^ Skirmish Command V is a requirement for Skirmish Command Specialist.
^ ^a ^b ^c Leadership V, Command Burst Specialist IV and Wing Command IV are already required for Command Ships
^ Drones V, Light Drone Operation V and Amarr Drone Specialization I is required to use Acolyte II. It's acceptable to skip this skill initially if you can use other drones, like Warrior II drones, but train it as soon as possible.
^ ^a ^b Drone Durability I and Repair Drone Operation II are required to use armor maintenance bots.

Skill Plan

Listed below is a skill plan for boosting. It can be copied into your skill queue to train. The skills are not ordered in any particular way, so feel free to move them around as you see fit.

INC - Armor OGB Skillplan
This skillplan contains all the minimum skills to pilot a logi booster.
Expand this box to view a Skill queue to use in-game

CPU Management 1
Target Management 1
Target Management 2
Target Management 3
Target Management 4
Target Management 5
Advanced Target Management 1
Advanced Target Management 2
Advanced Target Management 3
Drones 1
Drones 2
Drones 3
Drones 4
Drones 5
Amarr Drone Specialization 1
Amarr Drone Specialization 2
Amarr Drone Specialization 3
Leadership 1
Armored Command 1
Armored Command 2
Armored Command 3
Armored Command 4
Armored Command 5
Armored Command Specialist 1
Armored Command Specialist 2
Armored Command Specialist 3
Armored Command Specialist 4
Armored Command Specialist 5
Mechanics 1
Mechanics 2
Mechanics 3
Power Grid Management 1
Power Grid Management 2
Power Grid Management 3
Capacitor Management 1
Capacitor Management 2
Capacitor Management 3
Capacitor Management 4
Capacitor Systems Operation 1
Capacitor Systems Operation 2
Capacitor Systems Operation 3
Capacitor Systems Operation 4
Capacitor Systems Operation 5
Leadership 2
Leadership 3
Leadership 4
Leadership 5
Command Burst Specialist 1
Command Burst Specialist 2
Command Burst Specialist 3
Command Burst Specialist 4
Spaceship Command 1
Spaceship Command 2
Spaceship Command 3
Spaceship Command 4
Spaceship Command 5
Wing Command 1
Wing Command 2
Wing Command 3
Wing Command 4
Command Ships 1
Command Ships 2
Command Ships 3
Command Ships 4
CPU Management 2
CPU Management 3
CPU Management 4
CPU Management 5
Science 1
Science 2
Science 3
Cybernetics 1
Cybernetics 2
Cybernetics 3
Cybernetics 4
Cybernetics 5
Drone Avionics 1
Drone Avionics 2
Drone Avionics 3
Drone Durability 1
Drone Interfacing 1
Drone Interfacing 2
Drone Interfacing 3
Drone Navigation 1
Drone Navigation 2
Drone Navigation 3
Drone Sharpshooting 1
Drone Sharpshooting 2
Drone Sharpshooting 3
Hull Upgrades 1
Hull Upgrades 2
Hull Upgrades 3
Hull Upgrades 4
EM Armor Compensation 1
EM Armor Compensation 2
EM Armor Compensation 3
EM Armor Compensation 4
Navigation 1
Navigation 2
Evasive Maneuvering 1
Evasive Maneuvering 2
Evasive Maneuvering 3
Explosive Armor Compensation 1
Explosive Armor Compensation 2
Explosive Armor Compensation 3
Explosive Armor Compensation 4
Gallente Frigate 1
Gallente Frigate 2
Gallente Frigate 3
Gallente Destroyer 1
Gallente Destroyer 2
Gallente Destroyer 3
Gallente Cruiser 1
Gallente Cruiser 2
Gallente Cruiser 3
Gallente Battlecruiser 1
Gallente Battlecruiser 2
Gallente Battlecruiser 3
Gallente Battlecruiser 4
Gallente Battlecruiser 5
Hull Upgrades 5
Kinetic Armor Compensation 1
Kinetic Armor Compensation 2
Kinetic Armor Compensation 3
Kinetic Armor Compensation 4
Light Drone Operation 1
Light Drone Operation 2
Light Drone Operation 3
Light Drone Operation 4
Light Drone Operation 5
Long Range Targeting 1
Long Range Targeting 2
Long Range Targeting 3
Long Range Targeting 4
Magnetometric Sensor Compensation 1
Magnetometric Sensor Compensation 2
Magnetometric Sensor Compensation 3
Repair Systems 1
Repair Systems 2
Remote Armor Repair Systems 1
Remote Armor Repair Systems 2
Remote Armor Repair Systems 3
Remote Armor Repair Systems 4
Repair Drone Operation 1
Repair Drone Operation 2
Sensor Linking 1
Sensor Linking 2
Sensor Linking 3
Signature Analysis 1
Signature Analysis 2
Signature Analysis 3
Signature Analysis 4
Signature Analysis 5
Skirmish Command 1
Skirmish Command 2
Skirmish Command 3
Skirmish Command 4
Skirmish Command 5
Skirmish Command Specialist 1
Skirmish Command Specialist 2
Skirmish Command Specialist 3
Skirmish Command Specialist 4
Skirmish Command Specialist 5
Thermal Armor Compensation 1
Thermal Armor Compensation 2
Thermal Armor Compensation 3
Thermal Armor Compensation 4
Warp Drive Operation 1
Warp Drive Operation 2
Warp Drive Operation 3

Recommended skills for ongrid boosters

There are no real recommended skills for ongrid boosters apart from the minimum skills, as the bar is so high to begin with that the rest of the skills aren't really that critical. But wrapping up Command Ships V and Command Burst Specialist V could be convenient.

While you could train Fleet Command for larger area of effect, that isn't really needed for the vanguards we run, as we'll all stay well within the base range you get with the pre-requisite Leadership V and Wing Command IV.

Further training

Once you've got the most pressing skills trained and you're looking towards further training, remember that in the time it takes to train a skill from IV to V you can usually train up a handful of other skills from I to IV. As a general rule of thumb we recommend that people train their skills up to IV before starting to max them out. Sometimes you need a skill that requires you to train another skill to V, so it's not always avoidable, but until you have a solid set of skills trained it makes sense to hold off on training skills to V.

When you start training skills to V it might be a good time to start doing some serious skillplanning and consider neural remaps and better attribute implants. While restrictive, a good neural remap and attribute upgrades can lower the training time significantly.

Honing your skills

Remember that the minimum and recommended skills are just the beginning and there is much room for improvement. Maxing out the gunnery and support skills and topping off your racial ship skills for example will make your ship much more efficient. You'll also have many more options to improve your fit with better fitting and support skills, like upgrading a module, drop an excessive tank module for more utility modules and so forth.

What you're going to train next differs a little bit based on what ship and what weapons you're going to use. For some fitting skills will be prioritized due to the lack of CPU or powergrid of their hull, for others capacitor skills are more important while others can simply go straight for better ship and gunnery skills.

Useful training for alts

It is no secret that having alts or several accounts are extremely useful in EVE. Incursions are no different and we can make good use of alts for a wide variety of things, especially unistas during war. The training times shown below are assuming the same +3 attribute implants as mentioned at the top of this page.

Hacker / Scout

Scouting can be done in pretty much any ship and doesn't require any skills at all, even shuttles. When it comes to hacking the racial exploration ships are very useful thanks to their bonuses and often very cheap to boot. There are a few skills that help, but for the most part you'll have the skills needed to hack right off the bat. For dropping Lyavite in the Nation Mining Colony, the tech 1 mining frigate Venture is best suited for the job, being able to carry multiple sites worth of ore on its own.

For more information about the role, see the hacker/scout section on the Roles in Incursions page.

Minimum Heron hacker fit

Heron: Incursions (hacker)

EFT

[Heron, Incursions (hacker)]

Data Analyzer I
5MN Microwarpdrive I

Nanofiber Internal Structure I
Nanofiber Internal Structure I

Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I
Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I

Warrior I x7

FITTING DIFFICULTY

EVE VERSION

April 2020

ALPHA CAN USE

YES

EFT

SKILLS

NOTES

RECOMMENDED SKILLS

You'll need Caldari Frigate I to fly this ship.
(~15 minutes worth of training)
Hacking III (optional, 11 hours and 14 minutes)

NOTES

Any of the Magnate, Imicus, or Probe can also use this fitting with the same level of effectiveness.
Being able to fit a Data Analyzer II module will greatly improve hacking effectiveness, as it pushes the Heron's virus strength to 35, letting it break through defensive subsystems more easily.
Right-clicking your microwarpdrive and selecting the option "Set auto-repeat off" is a good way to make sure you only run one cycle of the microwarpdrive, thus avoiding any embarrassing issues like forgetting to keep it on and capping out before you can hack the tower.
The Warrior I drones are so that the scout can contribute damage and sponge a payout if there are less than ten ongrid ships.
Additional buffer modules, such as Small Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extenders, can make it easier for the logi pilots to hold up this ship, in case it takes aggro in an OTA.

Dropper Venture

Venture: Incursions (Dropper)

EFT

[Venture, Incursions (Dropper)]
Small Remote Shield Booster I

5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Small Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
Small Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender

Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I

Acolyte I x2

FITTING DIFFICULTY

EVE VERSION

February 2022

ALPHA CAN USE

YES

EFT

SKILLS

NOTES

RECOMMENDED SKILLS

NOTES

The Venture can hold 16 stacks of Lyavite containing 255 units in each stack.
The Small Remote Shield Extender is so that the scout can contribute repairs and sponge a payout if there are less than ten ongrid ships.
Adding a Prototype Cloaking Device enables the Venture to safely enter the Nation Mining Colony before the final wave. It is not necessary to perform dropper duties, and requires Omega clone status in order to use.

Valet alt

Having an alt capable of flying your ships around is invaluable when your main character is at war or otherwise indisposed. If the purpose is just to fly the ship, they wouldn't need any gunnery skills whatsoever. The same character could theoretically become your dedicated incursion/mission alt down the line to make life easier for your main character, if you have the means to support a second account that is. Since each account comes with three character slots, everyone have the ability to make two alts for their account, meaning this is an option everyone has, it's not limited to people with multiple accounts.

Moving your actual main, who is in uni, can be done safely in something as simple as a shuttle. See travel fits for more information on how you can easily move your main to and from incursions when you want to run.

Below are various levels of training needed for different type of tanking capabilities. As a minimum, the Hull tanking and Ship skills is enough to fit a Damage Control II and Reinforced Bulkhead II modules for a solid 130 - 150k+ effective hit points buffer on a regular tech one battleship. If you train the Additional race as well, the alt could move a pirate faction battleship. The extra shield skills would allow you to upgrade the meta shield modules to tech two for a little bit more tank as well.

Hull tanking	Ship skills	Additional race ^[1]	Shield tanking ^[2]
~ 1 day and 12 hours	~ 3 days and 5 hours	~ 2 days and 11 hours	~ 5 day and 11 hours
Hull Upgrades IV	Spaceship Command IV <racial> Frigate III <racial> Destroyer III <racial> Cruiser III <racial> Battlecruiser III <racial> Battleship I	<racial> Frigate III <racial> Destroyer III <racial> Cruiser III <racial> Battlecruiser III <racial> Battleship I	Shield Upgrades IV Tactical Shield Manipulation IV
Less than 4 days and 17 hours worth of training in total for a simple valet alt

^ Optional - If you need your alt to be able to move a pirate faction battleship (since they require two racial ship skills).
^ Optional - Increasing the train to a handful of days means you can upgrade the shield tank and use the Large Shield Extender II, EM Shield Amplifier II as well as the Multispectrum Shield Hardener II modules (or any of the active hardeners or passive amplifiers).

Travel fits

The basic idea behind travel fits for the above mentioned valet alt is to not be at war (which is why we use the valet) and to simply replace any modules that do not help us travel safer, so as not to be worth ganking in the first place. This means that webs, target painters, damage modules etc are removed in favour of tanking modules.

The easiest way to make a travel fit for a battleship is to replace all the low slots except for the damage control with reinforced bulkheads and replace all the midslots with a combination of large shield extenders and multispectrum shield hardeners. If the character you will be moving the battleship with can use cloaking devices then fitting an Improved Cloaking Device II in a high slot and a 500MN Microwarpdrive in a midslot will allow the use of the Cloak trick.

There is generally no need to unfit the high slot guns, if additional fitting space for tank modules is needed then guns can simply be offlined.

Moving costly modules

The regular fits on the wiki have but a couple of expensive modules, like the Federation Navy Stasis Webifier and for some ships the Republic Fleet Target Painter, which totals about 100 million. This can easily be carried in the hold of a travel fit battleship without much fear of becoming a gank target.

If you upgrade your ship with more expensive modules, such as deadspace and other faction modules, you should secure a better way of moving those expensive modules. The dedicated travel ships (except the shuttle) can easily hold the more expensive modules as they are often only 5 - 10 m3 in size and those ships can fit several modules in their hold.

Common guides

There are several common guides on the wiki already. Our needs in the incursion community are a little different, but it might be useful for general purposes or to get some inspiration of what else to train on your alt.

[1] Target Painting is needed for the target painter module. Can be skipped for Vindicator pilots (see Propulsion Jamming).

[2] Propulsion Jamming is needed for the stasis webifier module normally fitted to T1 battleships and the Vindicator. Other ships may also fit this module situationally, from time to time.

[gun_upgrade-3] Having Motion Prediction, Rapid Firing, Sharpshooter and Controlled Bursts at III are all that's needed to get started, though it is recommended to train these skills to IV as soon as possible if you wish to invest further into Incursions.

[racial-4] <racial> Frigate III and Small <racial> Turret III are starter skills you normally have, but are included in case you have to cross-train out of your initial race.

[5] Electronic Warfare IV is a requirement for Advanced Drone Avionics.

[long-6] Optional - Consider spending an additional 9 days and 19 hours training into the long range specialization as well

[7] Electronic Warfare III is needed for Frequency Modulation and Long Distance Jamming.

[t2lights-8] Training Light Drone Operation V unlocks T2 drones, which deal slightly more damage (with levels in Amarr Drone Specialization for Acolytes) and cost several times less than faction versions.

[9] - While heavy drones are not used in Vanguards, they see common use in Headquarters fleets. HQ groups will generally require pilots of Vindicators and Kronii to use heavy drones.

[marauder-10] Energy Grid Upgrades V and Advanced Weapon Upgrades V are prerequisites of Marauders.

[11] Energy Grid Upgrades is required for the cap, power diagnostic and reactor control modules.

[logistics-12] Signature Analysis V and Long Range Targeting V are requirements for the Logistics Cruisers skill.

[13] Target Management V is a requirement for the Advanced Target Management skill.

[racial-14] Gallente Frigate III is a starter skill for Gallente characters.

[logibots-15] Drone Durability I and Repair Drone Operation II are required to use armor maintenance bots.

[16] Remote Armor Repair Systems IV is already trained as a requirement for the Remote Armor Repairer II module.

[17] This assumes you've already trained the skills listed under recommended.

[command-18] Leadership V, Wing Command IV, Command Burst Specialist IV and Spaceship Command V are all needed to train Command Ships.

[mindlink-19] Cybernetics V, Armored Command Specialist V and Skirmish Command Specialist V are needed for the Federation Navy Command Mindlink implant.

[20] Armored Command V is a requirement for Armored Command Specialist.

[21] Skirmish Command V is a requirement for Skirmish Command Specialist.

[command2-22] Leadership V, Command Burst Specialist IV and Wing Command IV are already required for Command Ships

[23] Drones V, Light Drone Operation V and Amarr Drone Specialization I is required to use Acolyte II. It's acceptable to skip this skill initially if you can use other drones, like Warrior II drones, but train it as soon as possible.

[logibots-24] Drone Durability I and Repair Drone Operation II are required to use armor maintenance bots.

[25] Optional - If you need your alt to be able to move a pirate faction battleship (since they require two racial ship skills).

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-= Ship progression =
+{{eunic}}
-Unless you are already heavily invested into a certain race or weapon system, it might be a good idea to think of which logistics ship, strategic cruiser or pirate faction battleship you'll want in the end, rather than what your first incursion ship should be.
+= Planning ahead =
+Unless you are already heavily invested into a certain race or weapon system, it might be a good idea to think of which logistics ship or marauder you'll want in the end, rather than what your first incursion ship should be. You should also consider secondary value of whatever you train, perhaps you can find an end-of-the-line ship that not only furthers your goals for incursions but other goals as well given the skills you'll end up training for it.
-You should also consider secondary value of whatever you train, perhaps you can find an end-of-the-line ship that not only furthers your goals for incursions but other goals as well given the skills you'll end up training for it. If you already know that you like smaller ships, or have plans for diving into a wormhole in the future, it would make much more sense training into a strategic cruiser than a pirate faction battleship. Depending on the race, training for strategic cruisers will make quite some progress towards being able to fly logistics as well, or the other way around if your goal is to fly logistcs. That said, most strategic cruisers pale in comparison to the pirate faction battleships who remain the epitome of incursion boats.
+See [[ship progression in Incursions|ship progression]] for more information.
+{|
+| valign="top" | [[image:implants.png|64px|link=]]
+| valign="top" | {{co|coral|Attribute implants}}
-'''Recommended battleships:'''
+The training times listed for these will assume that you utilize '''+3 attribute implants''' (see [[the +3 Implants Program]] for unistas to get started). These implants are cheap and gives you a much needed boost to your training times.
-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:left; font-size:90%; border-collapse:collapse; border:1px solid #333333; padding:5px;"
 |-
-! style="background:#222222;" | Races
+| valign="top" | [[image:icon_dna.png|64px|link=]]
-! style="background:#222222;" | Ship
+| valign="top" | {{co|coral|Neural remaps}}
-! style="background:#222222;" | Description
-|- valign="top"
+Normally one should be careful about remaps and not spend them needlessly. However, if you are making an alt knowing that it will only train for a month or two and not train anything else after that point, consider using all the remaps.
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:logo_faction_minmatar_republic.png|64px]]
+|-
-| style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Maelstrom.jpg|64px]]
+| valign="top" | [[image:multiple_training.png|64px|link=]]
-| The [[Maelstrom]] can easily lead into the '''Machariel''', retaining the projectile skills and Minmatar skills, but requires Gallente battleship. Minmatar in general also offers the '''Loki''' and '''Sleipnir''' as well as the '''Scimitar''' for logistics.
+| valign="top" | {{co|coral|Multiple character training}}
-|- valign="top"
-| nowrap style="padding:0px; text-align:center;" | [[image:logo_faction_caldari_state.png|64px]]
+[[PLEX]] can be used to activate [[Multiple Character Training]]. If you want to use the characters at the same time, or plan on training for a long time, consider making a '''second account''' instead as characters on the same account cannot be logged in at the same time.
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Rokh.jpg|64px]]
-| The [[Rokh]] can train into a '''Vindicator''', retaining the hybrid skills, but forced to train both Gallente and Minmatar battleships. It can also train into the '''Nightmare''', retaining the Caldari battleship skills, but forced to crosstrain into lasers. Caldari also offers the '''Basilisk''' for logistics.
-|- valign="top"
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:logo_faction_gallente_federation.png|64px]]
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Hyperion.jpg|64px]]
-| The [[Hyperion]] can easily lead into the '''Vindicator''', retaining the hybrid skills and Gallente skills, but requires Minmatar battleship.
-|}
-'''End-game ships:'''
-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:left; font-size:90%; border-collapse:collapse; border:1px solid #333333; padding:5px;"
 |-
-! style="background:#222222;" | Races
+| valign="top" | [[image:skill_injector.png|64px|link=]]
-! style="background:#222222;" | Ship
+| valign="top" | {{co|coral|Skill injectors}}
-! style="background:#222222;" | Description
-|- valign="top"
+[[Skill Injector|Skill injectors]] can be used to get these skills, but they are '''very expensive'''. It can however be an option to quickly get an alt up to speed if you've got the ISK lying around and you value time more than ISK.
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:logo_faction_minmatar_republic.png|64px]][[image:logo_faction_gallente_federation.png|64px]]
-| style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Machariel.jpg|64px]]
-| The [[Machariel]] combines a flexible engagement range for autocannons with a high rate of fire. Fit for long range the impressive alpha is unmatched. It also has enough midslots to fit for any occasion.
-|- valign="top"
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:logo_faction_amarr_empire.png|64px]][[image:logo_faction_caldari_state.png|64px]]
-| style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Nightmare.jpg|64px]]
-| The [[Nightmare]] has very good damage at any range due to fast-swapping crystals and compensates for the innate low tracking of lasers with the ship's tracking bonus. It also has plenty of utility midslots available. Has some cap issues.
-|- valign="top"
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:logo_faction_gallente_federation.png|64px]][[image:logo_faction_minmatar_republic.png|64px]]
-| style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Vindicator.jpg|64px]]
-| The [[Vindicator]] is a brawler without match, both in terms of damage and incredibly strong webs. Despite appearances, it is also a very potent sniper when fitted with railguns, and tech two ammo makes it possible to use blasters at medium range.
-|- valign="top"
-| nowrap style="padding:0px; text-align:center;" | [[image:logo_faction_amarr_empire.png|64px]]
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Legion.jpg|64px]]
-| The [[Legion]] combines powerful short range capabilities with instant-swapping long range capabilities due to how crystals work. Ideal ship if you prefer smaller, more agile ships to the bulkier battleships.
-|- valign="top"
-| nowrap style="padding:0px; text-align:center;" | [[image:logo_faction_minmatar_republic.png|64px]]
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Loki.jpg|64px]]
-| The [[Loki]]'s combination of multiple webs and extreme tracking makes it very useful. It also has the option to fit for longer webs, which isn't always needed but makes a world of difference when it is.
-|- valign="top"
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:logo_faction_minmatar_republic.png|64px]][[image:logo_boundless_creation.png|64px]]
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Sleipnir.jpg|64px]]
-| Very few Command Ships have the range and utility needed to make them good for incursions, suffering the same problems as most ships with medium weaponry. The [[Sleipnir]] stands out with exceptional tracking, range and damage capabilities.
-|- valign="top"
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:logo_faction_minmatar_republic.png|64px]][[image:logo_core_complexion_inc.png|64px]]
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Scimitar.jpg|64px]]
-| The [[Scimitar]] is a logistics ship, the core of fleet defense. It does not rely on energy transfers to be cap stable and can therefor be fully operational on its own. The bonus to tracking links makes it an enormous asset on the field, on top of the repairs it supplies.
-|- valign="top"
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:logo_faction_caldari_state.png|64px]][[image:logo_lai_dai.png|64px]]
-| nowrap style="padding:0px;" | [[image:Basilisk.jpg|64px]]
-| The [[Basilisk]] is another logistics ship, but unlike the Scimitar, it needs someone to exchange energy transfers with to be effective. With good skills it can provide energy transfers to the fleet or field one more shield transporter for extra repping power.
 |}
-= Recommended skills =
+=In-game corporate skill plans=
-The following skills are recommended, if not downright required to fit the modules you have to in order to do incursions. For more information on what the different skills do, see the [[Support_Skills#Skills|Support Skills]] page. It's worth noting that the skills we recommend are basic skills, useful for pretty much all combat ships in EVE.
+See: [[EVE University Corporation Skill Plans]]
+The Minimum Damage Dealer, Minimum Logistics, and Minimum Ongrid Booster plans are available as a set of in-game skill plans.
+<br>
+<br>
+{{Color box|color=sienna|border=sandybrown|EVE University members may directly access the plans through the Corporate Skill Plan utility.  Non-members may access the plans using the links on this page, as described below.}}
+<br>
+<br>
+<u>EVE University Members</u>: To find these skill plans, choose "Skill Plans > Corporation Plans", on your in-game Skills interface.
+<br>
+<br>
+[[File:Corporate Skill Plans.PNG|center|Where to find the in-game Corporate Skill Plans]]
+<br>
+<br>
+<u>All Players</u>: The skill plans shown later on this page each have their in-game Corporate Skill plan name listed, along with text that can be copied to produce a link to the skill plan in-game.  To utilize the link, copy all text listed after the "Corporate Skill Plan link" for the plan you want to generate a link for, including the leading <nowiki><url></nowiki> and trailing <nowiki></url></nowiki>.  Then paste this string of text into your in-game notepad, and the game will automatically convert the pasted text into a link, which can then be used or shared.
-The training times listed for these will assume that you trained '''Cybernetics I''' and got a cheap set of '''+3 attribute implants''', which is not only reasonable but highly recommended regardless what you plan on doing in EVE. There's even [[The +3 Implants Program]] for unistas to get started.
+The copy-and-paste link method described above, can be used by characters outside of EVE University, to access the EVE University skill plans.
-== Damage dealers ==
+A link to the Skill Plans can also be generated and shared in-game from the plans themselves.
-Getting the recommended skills for a damage dealer requires less than 59 days of training, if you train into a turret-based battleship on a brand new character.
-Considering that is far more likely that you come looking for incursions after you have played the game for at least a couple of weeks, having trained some of the support skills already (the tutorial mentions many of them), you can often get ready much faster. Add to that the potential of neural remapping and what might seem like a daunting train can be covered in no-time.
+= Damage dealers =
+The majority of the skills we ask you to train are core fitting and support skills that'll help you fit and fly most ships better. Even the combat skills are mostly general gunnery or drone support skills you'd train as well if you did anything combat related in EVE.
+== Minimum skills for damage dealers ==
+{{alpha|skillplan}}
+Getting the minimum skills for a damage dealer requires a couple of months worth of training for {{Clonestate|omega}}s (times should be doubled when training on an {{Clonestate|alpha}}). This assumes a training plan for a turret-based battleship, done on a brand new character with no preexisting skills, and that no skill injectors are used.
+<br><br>
+*<u>EVE University Corporate Skill Plan Name</u>: EUni - Incursion Community Baseline DD Skillplan
+*<u>Corporate Skill Plan link</u>: <url=skillPlan:6a26a952-300a-49a8-8a5a-beebcc18fe92:917701062>EUni - Incursion Community Baseline DD Skillplan</url>
+<br>
-These recommended skills will allow you to fly any of the '''recommended battleships''' for [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Battleships|vanguards]] and [[Assault Incursion fits#Battleships|assaults]].
 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; text-align:center; padding:1px;"
-! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Support skills
+! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Core skills
-! [[file:icon_turret.png|32px|link=]] Gunnery skills
+! [[file:icon_cog.png|32px|link=]] Utility skills
+! [[file:icon_gunnery_turret.png|32px|link=]] Gunnery skills
 ! [[file:icon_ship.png|32px|link=]] Ship skills
-! [[File:Icon drone bandwith.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills
+! [[File:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills
 |- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
-| ~ 18 days and 18 hours
+| ~ 16 days and 1 hour
-| ~ 22 days and 2 hours
+| ~ 2 days and 10 hours
-| ~ 4 days and 15 hours
+| ~ 11 days and 22 hours
-| ~ 13 days and 2 hours
+| ~ 4 days and 22 hours
-|- valign="top" nowrap
+| ~ 7 days and 1 hours
-| style="padding:8px;" |
+|- valign="top"
-Cybernetics I<br>
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
-Electronics IV<br>
-Engineering IV<br>
-Mechanics IV<br>
 Weapon Upgrades IV<br>
-Energy Management IV<br>
+Capacitor Management IV<br>
-Energy Systems Operation IV<br>
+Thermodynamics I<br>
-Shield Upgrades IV<br>
+EM Armor Compensation II<br>
-Tactical Shield Manipulation IV<br>
+Thermal Armor Compensation II<br>
-Signature Analysis IV<br>
+Kinetic Armor Compensation II<br>
-Targeting IV<br>
+Explosive Armor Compensation II<br>
-Long Range Targeting IV<br>
+Hull Upgrades V<br>
-Propulsion Jamming III<br>
+Energy Grid Upgrades IV
-Target Painting III<small>&nbsp;<ref>'''Target Painting III''' is only needed if you'll use a Target Painter module.</ref></small><br>
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
-Jury Rigging III<br>
+Signature Analysis III<br>
-Shield Rigging III
+Long Range Targeting III<br>
-| style="padding:8px;" |
+Target Management IV<br>
+{{co|wheat|Target Painting I}}<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Target Painting}} is needed for the '''target painter''' module. Can be skipped for {{sh|Vindicator}} pilots (see Propulsion Jamming).</ref></small><br>
+Propulsion Jamming III<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Propulsion Jamming}} is needed for the '''stasis webifier''' module normally fitted to T1 battleships and the {{sh|Vindicator}}. Other ships may also fit this module situationally, from time to time.</ref></small><br>
+Armor Rigging III
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
 Gunnery V<br>
-Motion Prediction IV<br>
+Motion Prediction III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="gun upgrade">Having {{sk|Motion Prediction}}, {{sk|Rapid Firing}}, {{sk|Sharpshooter}} and {{sk|Controlled Bursts}} at III are all that's needed to get started, though it is recommended to train these skills to IV as soon as possible if you wish to invest further into Incursions.</ref></small><br>
-Rapid Firing IV<br>
+Rapid Firing III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="gun upgrade" /></small><br>
-Sharpshooter IV<br>
+Sharpshooter III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="gun upgrade" /></small><br>
-Surgical Strike IV<br>
+Surgical Strike III<br>
 Trajectory Analysis IV<br>
-Controlled Bursts IV<small>&nbsp;<ref>'''Controlled Bursts''' is useful for all hybrids and lasers, but useless for projectiles and missiles as they do not utilize cap.</ref></small><br>
+Controlled Bursts III<br>
-Small <racial> Turret III<br>
+Small <racial> Turret III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="racial">'''<racial> Frigate III''' and '''Small <racial> Turret III''' are starter skills you normally have, but are included in case you have to cross-train out of your initial race.</ref></small><br>
-Medium <racial> Turret IV<br>
+Medium <racial> Turret III<br>
 Large <racial> Turret III
-| style="padding:8px;" |
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
-<racial> Frigate III<br>
+Spaceship Command IV<br>
+<racial> Frigate III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="racial"></ref></small><br>
 <racial> Destroyer III<br>
 <racial> Cruiser III<br>
 <racial> Battlecruiser III<br>
-Spaceship Command IV<br>
 <racial> Battleship III<br>
-Warp Drive Operation III
+Warp Drive Operation III<br>
-| style="padding:8px;" |
+Evasive Maneuvering III<br>
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
 Drones V<br>
+Light Drone Operation III<br>
 Drone Interfacing III<br>
-Scout Drone Operation V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="warriors">'''Drones V''', '''Scout Drone Operation V''' and '''Minmatar Drone Specialization I''' is required to use Warrior II and Valkyrie II drones.</ref></small><br>
+Drone Navigation III<br>
-Combat Drone Operation III<br>
+Drone Sharpshooting III<br>
-Minmatar Drone Specialization III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="warriors"></ref></small><br>
+Drone Avionics III<br>
-Drone Durability I<small>&nbsp;<ref name="maintenance">'''Drone Durability I''', '''Repair Drone Operation II''' and '''Shield Emission System III''' is required to use Shield Maintenance drones, which can be trained in mere hours if you can already use tech two scout drones.</ref></small><br>
+Drone Durability I<br>
-Repair Drone Operation II<small>&nbsp;<ref name="maintenance"></ref></small><br>
+Repair Drone Operation II<br>
-Shield Emission Systems III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="maintenance"></ref></small>
+Remote Armor Repair Systems III
 |- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
-| colspan=4 | ~ 58 days and 12 hours worth of training in total
+| colspan=5 |~ 42 days and 8 hours worth of {{Clonestate|1=omega|2=Omega state}} training in total {{co|grey|(~ 2.1 million skillpoints)}}
 |}
 <small><references/></small>
-== Logistics ==
+=== Skill Plans ===
-Training for logistics is considerably more time-consuming than that of a regular damage dealer. Please remember that when you think the above mentioned skills for a damage dealer is a long train.
-It takes up to 75 days to get good enough skills to fly a [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Logistics|logistics starter fit]].
+Listed below are the training plans for a general damage dealer, as well as specific skills for particular ships. These can be copied into your skill queue to train. The skills are not ordered in any sort of preference, so feel free to move them around as you see fit.
+{{SkillQueue
+|name=INC Armor DD Skillplan
+|hdr=0
+|width=500px
+|desc=This skillplan contains all the minimum DD skills, not including ship/weapon specific skills.
+|Mechanics 1
+Mechanics 2
+Mechanics 3
+Jury Rigging 1
+Jury Rigging 2
+Jury Rigging 3
+Armor Rigging 1
+Armor Rigging 2
+Armor Rigging 3
+Power Grid Management 1
+Power Grid Management 2
+Power Grid Management 3
+Capacitor Management 1
+Capacitor Management 2
+Capacitor Management 3
+Capacitor Management 4
+Gunnery 1
+Gunnery 2
+Controlled Bursts 1
+Controlled Bursts 2
+Controlled Bursts 3
+Drones 1
+Drone Avionics 1
+Drone Avionics 2
+Drone Avionics 3
+Drones 2
+Drones 3
+Drones 4
+Drone Durability 1
+Drones 5
+Drone Interfacing 1
+Drone Interfacing 2
+Drone Interfacing 3
+Drone Navigation 1
+Drone Navigation 2
+Drone Navigation 3
+Drone Sharpshooting 1
+Drone Sharpshooting 2
+Drone Sharpshooting 3
+Hull Upgrades 1
+Hull Upgrades 2
+Hull Upgrades 3
+Hull Upgrades 4
+EM Armor Compensation 1
+EM Armor Compensation 2
+Science 1
+Energy Grid Upgrades 1
+Energy Grid Upgrades 2
+Energy Grid Upgrades 3
+Energy Grid Upgrades 4
+Navigation 1
+Navigation 2
+Evasive Maneuvering 1
+Evasive Maneuvering 2
+Evasive Maneuvering 3
+Explosive Armor Compensation 1
+Explosive Armor Compensation 2
+Gunnery 3
+Gunnery 4
+Gunnery 5
+Hull Upgrades 5
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 1
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 2
+Light Drone Operation 1
+Light Drone Operation 2
+Light Drone Operation 3
+CPU Management 1
+CPU Management 2
+Long Range Targeting 1
+Long Range Targeting 2
+Long Range Targeting 3
+Motion Prediction 1
+Motion Prediction 2
+Motion Prediction 3
+CPU Management 3
+Propulsion Jamming 1
+Propulsion Jamming 2
+Propulsion Jamming 3
+Rapid Firing 1
+Rapid Firing 2
+Rapid Firing 3
+Repair Systems 1
+Repair Systems 2
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 1
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 2
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 3
+Repair Drone Operation 1
+Repair Drone Operation 2
+Sharpshooter 1
+Sharpshooter 2
+Sharpshooter 3
+Signature Analysis 1
+Signature Analysis 2
+Signature Analysis 3
+Spaceship Command 1
+Spaceship Command 2
+Spaceship Command 3
+Spaceship Command 4
+Surgical Strike 1
+Surgical Strike 2
+Surgical Strike 3
+Target Management 1
+Target Management 2
+Target Management 3
+Target Management 4
+Target Painting 1
+Thermal Armor Compensation 1
+Thermal Armor Compensation 2
+Science 2
+Science 3
+Science 4
+Power Grid Management 4
+Thermodynamics 1
+Trajectory Analysis 1
+Trajectory Analysis 2
+Trajectory Analysis 3
+Trajectory Analysis 4
+Warp Drive Operation 1
+Warp Drive Operation 2
+Warp Drive Operation 3
+Weapon Upgrades 1
+Weapon Upgrades 2
+Weapon Upgrades 3
+Weapon Upgrades 4
+}}
+{{CollapseBox|width=500px|{{sh|Apocalypse Navy Issue}}|
+ Amarr Frigate I
+ Amarr Frigate II
+ Amarr Frigate III
+ Amarr Destroyer I
+ Amarr Destroyer II
+ Amarr Destroyer III
+ Amarr Cruiser I
+ Amarr Cruiser II
+ Amarr Cruiser III
+ Amarr Battlecruiser I
+ Amarr Battlecruiser II
+ Amarr Battlecruiser III
+ Amarr Battleship I
+ Amarr Battleship II
+ Amarr Battleship III
+ Small Energy Turret I
+ Small Energy Turret II
+ Small Energy Turret III
+ Medium Energy Turret I
+ Medium Energy Turret II
+ Medium Energy Turret III
+ Large Energy Turret I
+ Large Energy Turret II
+ Large Energy Turret III}}
+{{CollapseBox|width=500px|{{sh|Megathron}}|
+ Gallente Frigate I
+ Gallente Frigate II
+ Gallente Frigate III
+ Gallente Destroyer I
+ Gallente Destroyer II
+ Gallente Destroyer III
+ Gallente Cruiser I
+ Gallente Cruiser II
+ Gallente Cruiser III
+ Gallente Battlecruiser I
+ Gallente Battlecruiser II
+ Gallente Battlecruiser III
+ Gallente Battleship I
+ Gallente Battleship II
+ Gallente Battleship III
+ Small Hybrid Turret I
+ Small Hybrid Turret II
+ Small Hybrid Turret III
+ Medium Hybrid Turret I
+ Medium Hybrid Turret II
+ Medium Hybrid Turret III
+ Large Hybrid Turret I
+ Large Hybrid Turret II
+ Large Hybrid Turret III}}
+{{CollapseBox|width=500px|{{sh|Praxis}} (Pulse)|
+ Small Energy Turret I
+ Small Energy Turret II
+ Small Energy Turret III
+ Medium Energy Turret I
+ Medium Energy Turret II
+ Medium Energy Turret III
+ Large Energy Turret I
+ Large Energy Turret II
+ Large Energy Turret III}}
+{{CollapseBox|width=500px|{{sh|Praxis}} (Blaster)|
+ Small Hybrid Turret I
+ Small Hybrid Turret II
+ Small Hybrid Turret III
+ Medium Hybrid Turret I
+ Medium Hybrid Turret II
+ Medium Hybrid Turret III
+ Large Hybrid Turret I
+ Large Hybrid Turret II
+ Large Hybrid Turret III}}
+=== EVEMon ===
+The skills listed in the training plans can be easily copied and pasted into EVEMon using the Clipboard Import button after having created a new EVEMon Skill Plan.
+== Recommended skills for damage dealers ==
+{{omega|skillplan}}
+Apart from the minimum skills listed above to get going, there are more skills that you can get once you start running.
+* Developing '''general skills''' to improve the overall performance of your ship can reap benefits in and out of Incursions.
+* Developing skills to run '''headquarter sites''' with public communities (strong emphasis on cap and propulsion).
+** Public communities will have their own doctrines and skill requirements. The ones listed here are general recommendations.
+* Training into '''tech two weapons''' bring much needed flexibility and range projection, even for regular tech one battleships.
+** While we use mostly short range weapons, consider training into the '''long range specialization''' as well.
+* Some ships can fit '''target painters''' or '''remote capacitor transmitters''', which require a few skills to be useful.
+* Improving your '''drones''' with skills for tech 2 variants, or larger kinds of drones, can provide additional damage at low cost.
+* Training into a '''Marauder''' provides the largest damage boost you can get for your character in highsec Incursions, but takes a while.
 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; text-align:center; padding:1px;"
-! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Support skills
+! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] General skills
-! [[file:icon_shield_transporter_i.png|32px|link=]] Repair skills
+! [[file:incursions_headquarter_icon.png|32px|link=]] Headquarters
+! {{icon|turret new|32}} Tech two weapons
+! [[file:icon_cog.png|32px|link=]] Utility skills
+! [[File:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drones
+! [[File:Icon bastion.png|32px|link=]] Marauders
+|- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
+| ~ 37 days and 9 hours
+| ~ 25 days and 13 hours
+| ~ 35 days and 4 hours
+| ~ 3 days and 21 hours
+| ~ 9 days and 17 hours
+| ~ 93 days and 14 hours
+|- valign="top"
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Evasive Maneuvering V<br>
+Spaceship Command V<br>
+Signature Analysis V<br>
+Rapid Firing V<br>
+Surgical Strike IV<br>
+Biology V
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+EM Armor Compensation IV<br>
+Thermal Armor Compensation IV<br>
+Kinetic Armor Compensation IV<br>
+Explosive Armor Compensation IV<br>
+Capacitor Systems Operation V<br>
+Electronic Warfare IV<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Electronic Warfare|IV}} is a requirement for {{sk|Advanced Drone Avionics}}.</ref></small><br>
+Advanced Drone Avionics III<br>
+Navigation V<br>
+Acceleration Control III<br>
+High Speed Maneuvering IV<br>
+Micro Jump Drive Operation III
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Motion Prediction V<br>
+Large <racial> Turret V<br>
+Large <short> Specialization II<br>
+{{co|grey|Sharpshooter V}}<small>&nbsp;<ref name="long">{{co|crimson|Optional}} - Consider spending an additional '''9 days and 19 hours''' training into the long range specialization as well</ref></small><br>
+{{co|grey|Large <long> Specialization III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="long"></ref></small>}}<br>
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Electronic Warfare III<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Electronic Warfare|III}} is needed for {{sk|Frequency Modulation}} and {{sk|Long Distance Jamming}}.</ref></small><br>
+Frequency Modulation III<br>
+Long Distance Jamming III<br>
+Target Painting III<br>
+Capacitor Emission Systems IV<br>
+Thermodynamics III
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Light Drone Operation V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="t2lights">Training {{sk|Light Drone Operation|V}} unlocks T2 drones, which deal slightly more damage (with levels in {{sk|Amarr Drone Specialization}} for Acolytes) and cost several times less than faction versions.</ref></small><br>
+Amarr Drone Specialization II<small>&nbsp;<ref name="t2lights"></ref></small><br>
+Drone Interfacing IV<br>
+Heavy Drone Operation III<small>&nbsp;<ref> - While heavy drones are not used in Vanguards, they see common use in Headquarters fleets. HQ groups will generally require pilots of Vindicators and Kronii to use heavy drones.</ref></small>
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+<racial> Battleship V<br>
+Energy Grid Upgrades V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="marauder">{{sk|Energy Grid Upgrades|V}} and {{sk|Advanced Weapon Upgrades|V}} are prerequisites of {{sk|Marauders}}.</ref></small><br>
+Advanced Weapon Upgrades V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="marauder"></ref></small><br>
+Marauders IV<br>
+Repair Systems V
+|}
+<small><references/></small>
+= Logistics =
+Training for logistics is considerably more time-consuming than that of a regular damage dealer. Please remember that when you think the above mentioned skills for a damage dealer is a long train. The bare minimum to make the logistics ships work is {{sk|Logistics Cruisers|IV}}, there is practically no way to make these ships function with lower skills than that. The reason for that is because the skill heavily influences the cap usage of remote repair modules as well as capacitor transmitters.
+== Minimum skills for logistics ==
+{{omega|skillplan}}
+It takes almost three months to get good enough skills to fly a '''minimum''' [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Logistics|logistics fit]] and you should try to skill up and upgrade to the '''recommended''' fit as soon as possible. The additional remote tracking computers can significantly improve the overall performance of the fleet.
+*<u>EVE University Corporate Skill Plan Name</u>: EUni - Incursion Community Minimum Logi Skillplan
+*<u>Corporate Skill Plan link</u>: <url=skillPlan:74618cda-a6b1-4e63-90e0-58c7f3859249:917701062>EUni - Incursion Community Minimum Logi Skillplan</url>
+<br>
+{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; text-align:center; padding:1px;"
+! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Core skills
+! [[file:icon_cog.png|32px|link=]] Utility skills
+! [[file:icon_shield_transporter_i.png|32px|link=]] Logistics skills
 ! [[file:icon_ship.png|32px|link=]] Ship skills
-! [[File:Icon drone bandwith.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills
+! [[File:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills
 |- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
-| ~ 17 days and 23 hours
+| ~ 22 days and 1 hours
-| ~ 4 days and 3 hours
+| ~ 20 days and 21 hours
-| ~ 47 days and 16 hours
+| ~ 4 days and 14 hours
-| ~ 5 days and 6 hours
+| ~ 32 days and 8 hours
+| ~ 5 days and 14 hours
 |- valign="top" nowrap
-| style="padding:8px;" |
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
-Cybernetics I<br>
+Capacitor Management IV<br>
-Electronics IV<br>
+Capacitor Systems Operation IV<br>
-Engineering IV<br>
+Energy Grid Upgrades IV<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Energy Grid Upgrades}} is required for the '''cap''', '''power diagnostic''' and '''reactor control''' modules.</ref></small><br>
-Mechanics IV<br>
+EM Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Energy Management IV<br>
+Thermal Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Energy Systems Operation IV<br>
+Kinetic Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Shield Upgrades IV<br>
+Explosive Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Tactical Shield Manipulation IV<br>
+Hull Upgrades V<br>
-Targeting V<small>&nbsp;<ref>'''Targeting V''' is a requirement for '''Multitasking'''.</ref></small><br>
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
-Multitasking III<small>&nbsp;<ref>'''Multitasking III''' is required to lock up 10 fleet members.</ref></small><br>
+Signature Analysis V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="logistics">{{sk|Signature Analysis|V}} and {{sk|Long Range Targeting|V}} are requirements for the {{sk|Logistics Cruisers}} skill.</ref></small><br>
-Jury Rigging III<br>
-Shield Rigging III
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-Shield Emission Systems IV<br>
-Energy Emission Systems IV<br>
-Sensor Linking III
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-<racial> Frigate III<br>
-<racial> Destroyer III<br>
-<racial> Cruiser III<br>
-Signature Analysis V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="logistics">'''Signature Analysis V''' and '''Long Range Targeting V''' is a requirement for the '''Logistics''' skill.</ref></small><br>
 Long Range Targeting V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="logistics"></ref></small><br>
-Logistics IV<br>
+Target Management V<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Target Management|V}} is a requirement for the {{sk|Advanced Target Management}} skill.</ref></small><br>
-Afterburner III<br>
+Advanced Target Management III
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Remote Armor Repair Systems IV<br>
+Sensor Linking IV
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Gallente Frigate III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="racial">'''Gallente Frigate III''' is a starter skill for Gallente characters.</ref></small><br>
+Gallente Destroyer III<br>
+Gallente Cruiser V<br>
+Logistics Cruisers IV<br>
+Evasive Maneuvering III<br>
 Warp Drive Operation III
-| style="padding:8px;" |
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
 Drones V<br>
-Drone Durability I<small>&nbsp;<ref name="maintenance">'''Drone Durability I''', '''Repair Drone Operation II''' and '''Shield Emission System III''' is required to use Shield Maintenance drones, which can be trained in mere hours if you can already use tech two scout drones.</ref></small><br>
+Drone Durability I<small>&nbsp;<ref name="logibots">{{sk|Drone Durability|I}} and {{sk|Repair Drone Operation|II}} are required to use '''armor maintenance bots'''.</ref></small><br>
-Repair Drone Operation II<small>&nbsp;<ref name="maintenance"></ref></small><br>
+Repair Drone Operation II<small>&nbsp;<ref name="logibots"></ref></small><br>
-{{co|grey|''Shield Emission Systems III''<small>&nbsp;<ref>This skill is a requirement for '''Shield Transporters''' and '''Shield Maintenance Bots''' and is covered in the '''Repair skills''' section.</ref></small>}}
+Drone Navigation III<br>
+Drone Avionics III<br>
+{{co|grey|Remote Armor Repair Systems III}}<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Remote Armor Repair Systems|IV}} is already trained as a requirement for the '''Remote Armor Repairer II''' module.</ref></small>
 |- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
-| colspan=4 | ~ 75 days worth of training in total
+| colspan=5 | ~ 85 days and 10 hours worth of training {{co|grey|(~ 4,2 million skillpoints)}}
+|}
+<small><references/></small>
+=== Skill Plan ===
+{{SkillQueue
+|name=INC Armor Logi Skillplan
+|hdr=0
+|width=500px
+|desc=This skillplan contains all the minimum logi skills to fly an Oneiros.
+|CPU Management 1
+Target Management 1
+Target Management 2
+Target Management 3
+Target Management 4
+Target Management 5
+Advanced Target Management 1
+Advanced Target Management 2
+Advanced Target Management 3
+Power Grid Management 1
+Power Grid Management 2
+Power Grid Management 3
+Capacitor Management 1
+Capacitor Management 2
+Capacitor Management 3
+Capacitor Management 4
+Capacitor Systems Operation 1
+Capacitor Systems Operation 2
+Capacitor Systems Operation 3
+Capacitor Systems Operation 4
+Drones 1
+Drone Avionics 1
+Drone Avionics 2
+Drone Avionics 3
+Drones 2
+Drones 3
+Drones 4
+Drone Durability 1
+Drone Navigation 1
+Drone Navigation 2
+Drone Navigation 3
+Drones 5
+Mechanics 1
+Hull Upgrades 1
+Hull Upgrades 2
+Hull Upgrades 3
+Hull Upgrades 4
+EM Armor Compensation 1
+EM Armor Compensation 2
+EM Armor Compensation 3
+EM Armor Compensation 4
+Science 1
+Energy Grid Upgrades 1
+Energy Grid Upgrades 2
+Energy Grid Upgrades 3
+Energy Grid Upgrades 4
+Navigation 1
+Navigation 2
+Evasive Maneuvering 1
+Evasive Maneuvering 2
+Evasive Maneuvering 3
+Explosive Armor Compensation 1
+Explosive Armor Compensation 2
+Explosive Armor Compensation 3
+Explosive Armor Compensation 4
+Spaceship Command 1
+Gallente Frigate 1
+Gallente Frigate 2
+Gallente Frigate 3
+Gallente Destroyer 1
+Gallente Destroyer 2
+Gallente Destroyer 3
+Spaceship Command 2
+Gallente Cruiser 1
+Gallente Cruiser 2
+Gallente Cruiser 3
+Gallente Cruiser 4
+Gallente Cruiser 5
+Hull Upgrades 5
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 1
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 2
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 3
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 4
+Signature Analysis 1
+Signature Analysis 2
+Signature Analysis 3
+Signature Analysis 4
+Signature Analysis 5
+CPU Management 2
+Long Range Targeting 1
+Long Range Targeting 2
+Long Range Targeting 3
+Long Range Targeting 4
+Long Range Targeting 5
+Spaceship Command 3
+Logistics Cruisers 1
+Logistics Cruisers 2
+Logistics Cruisers 3
+Logistics Cruisers 4
+CPU Management 3
+Repair Drone Operation 1
+Repair Drone Operation 2
+Repair Systems 1
+Repair Systems 2
+Mechanics 2
+Mechanics 3
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 1
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 2
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 3
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 4
+Sensor Linking 1
+Sensor Linking 2
+Sensor Linking 3
+Sensor Linking 4
+Thermal Armor Compensation 1
+Thermal Armor Compensation 2
+Thermal Armor Compensation 3
+Thermal Armor Compensation 4
+Warp Drive Operation 1
+Warp Drive Operation 2
+Warp Drive Operation 3}}
+== Recommended skills for logistics ==
+{{omega|skillplan}}
+Since the minimum skills only gets you so far, it's important to continue training into the '''recommended logistics fit''' for [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Logistics|logistics]].
+{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; text-align:center; padding:1px;"
+! [[file:icon_ship_dark.png|32px|link=]] Advanced<small>&nbsp;<ref>This assumes you've already trained the skills listed under '''recommended'''.</ref></small>
+! [[image:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills
+|- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
+| ~ 55 days and 3 hours
+| ~ 15 days and 9 hours
+|- valign="top" nowrap
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Power Grid Management V<br>
+Capacitor Systems Operation V<br>
+Logistics Cruisers V<br>
+Remote Armor Repair Systems V<br>
+Capacitor Management V
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Repair Drone Operation V
 |}
 <small><references/></small>
-== Advanced hulls ==
+=== Skill List ===
-Once you have the recommended skills, the step from a battleship to a strategic cruiser or a pirate faction battleship is surprisingly short and you should take this step as soon as possible to get into a really good ship. You might need to top off some of the support skills, pending on what ship you decide to move into, if you run into powergrid, CPU or cap issues.
-For strategic cruisers you'll most likely require you to train some support skills to V and of course your racial cruiser of choice to V. Then you just move towards tech two medium weapons for further efficiency. When it comes to pirate faction battleship hulls like the Machariel, Nightmare and Vindicator, which are better in all regards compared to the regular battleships regardless of your skill, you'll need to train anything from a secondary racial shipline to two new racial shiplines and new racial turret skills.
+Listed below are the recommended skills above compiled into a list. It can be copied into your skill queue to train or create a skill plan from. The skills are ordered alphabetically, but feel free to move them around as you see fit.
+{{CollapseBox|width=500px|Recommended logistics skills|
+ Power Grid Management V
+ Capacitor Systems Operation V
+ Logistics Cruisers V
+ Remote Armor Repair Systems V
+ Capacitor Management V
+ Repair Drone Operation V}}
+= Ongrid booster =
+Training into an ongrid booster requires quite a few months worth of training, even if you're doing it on an existing character. This is due to the fact it requires skills you normally wouldn't train unless you're specifically training to use command bursts. It's also a very long one that benefits greatly from using [[Skills_and_Learning#Neural_Remaps|neural remaps]].
+== Minimum skills for ongrid boosters ==
+{{omega|skillplan}}
+Since {{sk|Cybernetics|V|icon=yes}} is required for the mindlink implant, consider training it first so you can also get +5 attribute implants and further improving your training time. The times listed below are, like all the other skill plans, assuming just the +3 attribute implants and no neural remaps. So there's plenty of room for optimization. These minimum skills will allow you to fly any of the '''minimum ongrid booster fits''' for [[Vanguard Incursion fits#Ongrid booster|vanguards]].
+<br><br>
+*<u>EVE University Corporate Skill Plan Name</u>: EUni - Incursion Community OGB Skillplan
+*<u>Corporate Skill Plan link</u>: <url=skillPlan:1356dae5-90a8-472e-b069-3a2689544b87:917701062>EUni - Incursion Community OGB Skillplan</url>
+<br>
-Flying ships that cost over a billion in just the hull shouldn't be taken lightly however, but from an efficiency point of view there is no reason not to get one.
 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; text-align:center; padding:1px;"
-! [[file:icon_ship.png|32px|link=]] Strategic Cruisers
+! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Core skills
-! [[file:icon_ship_dark.png|32px|link=]] Pirate Faction Battleships<small>&nbsp;<ref>Assuming the worst possible starter skills, two racial shiplines and new gunnery skills. Most likely you'll end up only needing to train a new racial ship line for your secondary battleship skill.</ref></small>
+! [[file:icon_cog.png|32px|link=]] Utility skills
-! [[file:icon_turret.png|32px|link=]] New racial turret
+! [[file:icon_ship.png|32px|link=]] Ship skills
-! [[file:icon_ship_other.png|32px|link=]] New racial shipline
+! [[image:icon_fleet.png|32px|link=]] Fleet support skills
+! [[File:Icon drones.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills
+! [[file:icon_shield_transporter_i.png|32px|link=]] Logibooster skills
+|- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
+| ~ 21 days and 12 hours
+| ~ 12 days and 9 hours
+| ~ 63 days and 13 hours
+| ~ 89 days and 18 hours
+| ~ 12 days and 9 hours
+| ~ 10 days and 10 hours
+|- valign="top"
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+CPU Management V<br>
+EM Armor Compensation IV<br>
+Thermal Armor Compensation IV<br>
+Kinetic Armor Compensation IV<br>
+Explosive Armor Compensation IV<br>
+Hull Upgrades V
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Signature Analysis V<br>
+Long Range Targeting IV<br>
+Target Management IV<br>
+Advanced Target Management III
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Gallente Frigate III<br>
+Gallente Destroyer III<br>
+Gallente Cruiser III<br>
+Gallente Battlecruiser V<br>
+Leadership V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="command">{{sk|Leadership|V}}, {{sk|Wing Command|IV}}, {{sk|Command Burst Specialist|IV}} and {{sk|Spaceship Command|V}} are all needed to train {{sk|Command Ships}}.</ref></small><br>
+Spaceship Command V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="command"></ref></small><br>
+Wing Command IV<small>&nbsp;<ref name="command"></ref></small><br>
+Command Burst Specialist IV<small>&nbsp;<ref name="command"></ref></small><br>
+Command Ships IV<br>
+Warp Drive Operation III<br>
+Evasive Maneuvering III<br>
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Cybernetics V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="mindlink">{{sk|Cybernetics|V}}, {{sk|Armored Command Specialist|V}} and {{sk|Skirmish Command Specialist|V}} are needed for the {{co|coral|Federation Navy Command Mindlink}} implant.</ref></small><br>
+Armored Command V<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Armored Command|V}} is a requirement for {{sk|Armored Command Specialist}}.</ref></small><br>
+Armored Command Specialist V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="mindlink"></ref></small><br>
+Skirmish Command V<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Skirmish Command|V}} is a requirement for {{sk|Skirmish Command Specialist}}.</ref></small><br>
+Skirmish Command Specialist V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="mindlink"></ref></small><br>
+{{co|grey|Leadership V}}<small>&nbsp;<ref name="command2">{{sk|Leadership|V}}, {{sk|Command Burst Specialist|IV}} and {{sk|Wing Command|IV}} are already required for {{sk|Command Ships}}</ref></small><br>
+{{co|grey|Command Burst Specialist IV}}<small>&nbsp;<ref name="command2"></ref></small><br>
+{{co|grey|Wing Command IV}}<small>&nbsp;<ref name="command2"></ref></small><br>
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Drones V<br>
+Light Drone Operation V<br>
+Amarr Drone Specialization III<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{sk|Drones|V}}, {{sk|Light Drone Operation|V}} and {{sk|Amarr Drone Specialization|I}} is required to use '''Acolyte II'''. It's acceptable to skip this skill initially if you can use other drones, like '''Warrior II''' drones, but train it as soon as possible.</ref></small><br>
+Drone Interfacing III<br>
+Drone Navigation III<br>
+Drone Sharpshooting III<br>
+Drone Avionics III
+| style="padding:8px;" nowrap |
+Remote Armor Repair Systems IV<br>
+Capacitor Management IV<br>
+Capacitor Systems Operation V<br>
+Sensor Linking III<br>
+Magnetometric Sensor Compensation III<br>
+Drone Durability I<ref name="logibots">{{sk|Drone Durability|I}} and {{sk|Repair Drone Operation|II}} are required to use '''armor maintenance bots'''.</ref><br>
+Repair Drone Operation II<ref name="logibots"></ref>
 |- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
-| ~ 43 days and 20 hours
+| colspan=7 | ~ 209 days, 22 hours worth of training {{co|grey|(~ 10.3 million skillpoints)}}
-| ~ 24 days and 15 hours
-| ~ 5 days and 5 hours
-| ~ 9 days and 17 hours
-|- valign="top"
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-Mechanics V<br>
-Shield Operation III<br>
-Electronics V<br>
-Engineering V<br>
-{{co|grey|''Gunnery V''<small> <ref>'''Gunnery V''' for the Legion, Loki and Proteus, but only '''Gunnery III''' for the Tengu. This skill is covered by the '''recommended skills''' already.</ref></small>}}<br>
-Missile Launcher Operation III<small> <ref>'''Missile Launcher Operation V''' for the Tengu and '''Missile Launcher Operation III''' for the Loki. Neither the Legion or the Proteus needs this skill trained unless they decide to fit missiles.</ref></small><br>
-Navigation V<br>
-<racial> Cruiser V<br>
-<racial> Strategic Cruiser III<br>
-<racial> Defensive Systems IV<br>
-<racial> Electronic Systems V<small>&nbsp;<ref>For the '''Loki''' it is very important to get '''Minmatar Electronic Systems V''', since it increases damage projection as well as reduces cap usage of your turrets. Slightly less important for the '''Legion''', but it does increase your scan resolution.</ref></small><br>
-<racial> Engineering Systems IV<br>
-<racial> Offensive Systems V<small>&nbsp;<ref>For the '''Legion''' it is very important to get '''Amarr Offensive Systems V''', since it increases damage projection as well as reduces cap usage of your turrets. For the '''Loki''' it is a straight up damage projection increase.</ref></small><br>
-<racial> Propulsion Systems IV
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-<primary> Frigate III<br>
-<primary> Destroyer III<br>
-<primary> Cruiser III<br>
-<primary> Battlecruiser III<br>
-<primary> Battleship IV<br>
-<secondary> Frigate III<br>
-<secondary> Destroyer III<br>
-<secondary> Cruiser III<br>
-<secondary> Battlecruiser III<br>
-<secondary> Battleship IV<br>
-Small <racial> Turret III<br>
-Medium <racial> Turret IV<br>
-Large <racial> Turret IV
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-Small <racial> Turret III<br>
-Medium <racial> Turret IV<br>
-Large <racial> Turret IV<br>
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-<racial> Frigate III<br>
-<racial> Destroyer III<br>
-<racial> Cruiser III<br>
-<racial> Battlecruiser III<br>
-<racial> Battleship IV
 |}
 <small><references/></small>
+=== Skill Plan ===
+Listed below is a skill plan for boosting. It can be copied into your skill queue to train. The skills are not ordered in any particular way, so feel free to move them around as you see fit.
+{{SkillQueue
+|name=INC - Armor OGB Skillplan
+|hdr=0
+|width=500px
+|desc=This skillplan contains all the minimum skills to pilot a logi booster.
+|CPU Management 1
+Target Management 1
+Target Management 2
+Target Management 3
+Target Management 4
+Target Management 5
+Advanced Target Management 1
+Advanced Target Management 2
+Advanced Target Management 3
+Drones 1
+Drones 2
+Drones 3
+Drones 4
+Drones 5
+Amarr Drone Specialization 1
+Amarr Drone Specialization 2
+Amarr Drone Specialization 3
+Leadership 1
+Armored Command 1
+Armored Command 2
+Armored Command 3
+Armored Command 4
+Armored Command 5
+Armored Command Specialist 1
+Armored Command Specialist 2
+Armored Command Specialist 3
+Armored Command Specialist 4
+Armored Command Specialist 5
+Mechanics 1
+Mechanics 2
+Mechanics 3
+Power Grid Management 1
+Power Grid Management 2
+Power Grid Management 3
+Capacitor Management 1
+Capacitor Management 2
+Capacitor Management 3
+Capacitor Management 4
+Capacitor Systems Operation 1
+Capacitor Systems Operation 2
+Capacitor Systems Operation 3
+Capacitor Systems Operation 4
+Capacitor Systems Operation 5
+Leadership 2
+Leadership 3
+Leadership 4
+Leadership 5
+Command Burst Specialist 1
+Command Burst Specialist 2
+Command Burst Specialist 3
+Command Burst Specialist 4
+Spaceship Command 1
+Spaceship Command 2
+Spaceship Command 3
+Spaceship Command 4
+Spaceship Command 5
+Wing Command 1
+Wing Command 2
+Wing Command 3
+Wing Command 4
+Command Ships 1
+Command Ships 2
+Command Ships 3
+Command Ships 4
+CPU Management 2
+CPU Management 3
+CPU Management 4
+CPU Management 5
+Science 1
+Science 2
+Science 3
+Cybernetics 1
+Cybernetics 2
+Cybernetics 3
+Cybernetics 4
+Cybernetics 5
+Drone Avionics 1
+Drone Avionics 2
+Drone Avionics 3
+Drone Durability 1
+Drone Interfacing 1
+Drone Interfacing 2
+Drone Interfacing 3
+Drone Navigation 1
+Drone Navigation 2
+Drone Navigation 3
+Drone Sharpshooting 1
+Drone Sharpshooting 2
+Drone Sharpshooting 3
+Hull Upgrades 1
+Hull Upgrades 2
+Hull Upgrades 3
+Hull Upgrades 4
+EM Armor Compensation 1
+EM Armor Compensation 2
+EM Armor Compensation 3
+EM Armor Compensation 4
+Navigation 1
+Navigation 2
+Evasive Maneuvering 1
+Evasive Maneuvering 2
+Evasive Maneuvering 3
+Explosive Armor Compensation 1
+Explosive Armor Compensation 2
+Explosive Armor Compensation 3
+Explosive Armor Compensation 4
+Gallente Frigate 1
+Gallente Frigate 2
+Gallente Frigate 3
+Gallente Destroyer 1
+Gallente Destroyer 2
+Gallente Destroyer 3
+Gallente Cruiser 1
+Gallente Cruiser 2
+Gallente Cruiser 3
+Gallente Battlecruiser 1
+Gallente Battlecruiser 2
+Gallente Battlecruiser 3
+Gallente Battlecruiser 4
+Gallente Battlecruiser 5
+Hull Upgrades 5
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 1
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 2
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 3
+Kinetic Armor Compensation 4
+Light Drone Operation 1
+Light Drone Operation 2
+Light Drone Operation 3
+Light Drone Operation 4
+Light Drone Operation 5
+Long Range Targeting 1
+Long Range Targeting 2
+Long Range Targeting 3
+Long Range Targeting 4
+Magnetometric Sensor Compensation 1
+Magnetometric Sensor Compensation 2
+Magnetometric Sensor Compensation 3
+Repair Systems 1
+Repair Systems 2
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 1
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 2
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 3
+Remote Armor Repair Systems 4
+Repair Drone Operation 1
+Repair Drone Operation 2
+Sensor Linking 1
+Sensor Linking 2
+Sensor Linking 3
+Signature Analysis 1
+Signature Analysis 2
+Signature Analysis 3
+Signature Analysis 4
+Signature Analysis 5
+Skirmish Command 1
+Skirmish Command 2
+Skirmish Command 3
+Skirmish Command 4
+Skirmish Command 5
+Skirmish Command Specialist 1
+Skirmish Command Specialist 2
+Skirmish Command Specialist 3
+Skirmish Command Specialist 4
+Skirmish Command Specialist 5
+Thermal Armor Compensation 1
+Thermal Armor Compensation 2
+Thermal Armor Compensation 3
+Thermal Armor Compensation 4
+Warp Drive Operation 1
+Warp Drive Operation 2
+Warp Drive Operation 3
+}}
+== Recommended skills for ongrid boosters ==
+There are no real recommended skills for ongrid boosters apart from the minimum skills, as the bar is so high to begin with that the rest of the skills aren't really that critical. But wrapping up {{sk|Command Ships|V|icon=yes}} and {{sk|Command Burst Specialist|V|icon=yes}} could be convenient.
+While you could train {{sk|Fleet Command|icon=yes}} for larger area of effect, that isn't really needed for the vanguards we run, as we'll all stay well within the base range you get with the pre-requisite {{sk|Leadership|V|icon=yes}} and {{sk|Wing Command|IV|icon=yes}}.
+= Further training =
+Once you've got the most pressing skills trained and you're looking towards further training, remember that in the time it takes to train a skill from IV to V you can usually train up a handful of other skills from I to IV. As a general rule of thumb we recommend that people train their skills up to IV before starting to max them out. Sometimes you need a skill that requires you to train another skill to V, so it's not always avoidable, but until you have a solid set of skills trained it makes sense to hold off on training skills to V.
+When you start training skills to V it might be a good time to start doing some serious skillplanning and consider [[Skills_and_Learning#Neural_Remaps|neural remaps]] and better attribute implants. While restrictive, a good neural remap and attribute upgrades can lower the training time significantly.
 == Honing your skills ==
-Remember that the recommended skills are just the beginning and there is much room for improvement. Increase these skills, train up for tech two weaponry and max out the gunnery and support skills, and your ship will be much more efficient. You'll also have many more options to improve your fit with better fitting and support skills, like upgrading a module, drop an excessive tank module for more utility modules and so forth.
+Remember that the minimum and recommended skills are just the beginning and there is much room for improvement. Maxing out the gunnery and support skills and topping off your racial ship skills for example will make your ship much more efficient. You'll also have many more options to improve your fit with better fitting and support skills, like upgrading a module, drop an excessive tank module for more utility modules and so forth.
-What you're going to train next differs a little bit based on what ship and what weapons you're going to use. For some fitting skills will be prioritized due to the lack of CPU or powergrid of their hull, for others capacitor skills are more important while others can simply go straight for better ship skills and tech two weaponry.
+What you're going to train next differs a little bit based on what ship and what weapons you're going to use. For some fitting skills will be prioritized due to the lack of CPU or powergrid of their hull, for others capacitor skills are more important while others can simply go straight for better ship and gunnery skills.
+= Useful training for alts =
+It is no secret that having alts or several accounts are extremely useful in EVE. Incursions are no different and we can make good use of alts for a wide variety of things, especially unistas during war. The training times shown below are assuming the same +3 attribute implants as mentioned at the top of this page.
+== Hacker / Scout ==
+Scouting can be done in pretty much any ship and doesn't require any skills at all, even shuttles. When it comes to hacking the racial exploration ships are very useful thanks to their bonuses and often very cheap to boot. There are a few skills that help, but for the most part you'll have the skills needed to hack right off the bat. For dropping Lyavite in the Nation Mining Colony, the tech 1 mining frigate {{sh|Venture}} is best suited for the job, being able to carry multiple sites worth of ore on its own.
+For more information about the role, see the [[Roles in Incursions#Hacker/Scout|hacker/scout]] section on the '''Roles in Incursions''' page.
+==== Minimum Heron hacker fit ====
+{{ShipFitting
+| ship=Heron
+| fitName= Incursions (hacker)
+| fitID= Incursions (hacker)
+| high1name=open
+| high2name=open
+| high3name=open
+| mid1name=Data Analyzer I
+| mid1typeID=22175
+| mid2name=5MN Microwarpdrive I
+| mid2typeID=434
+| mid3name=open
+| mid4name=open
+| mid5name=open
+| low1name=Nanofiber Internal Structure I
+| low1typeID=2603
+| low2name=Nanofiber Internal Structure I
+| low2typeID=2603
+| rig1name=Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I
+| rig1typeID=31238
+| rig2name=Small Memetic Algorithm Bank I
+| rig2typeID=31238
+| drone1name=Warrior I x7
+| drone1typeID=2486
+| showSKILLS=Y
+| showNOTES=Y
+| difficulty=0
+| version=April 2020
+| showTOC=N
+| alphacanuse=Y
+|skills=You'll need {{sk|Caldari Frigate|I|icon=yes}} to fly this ship.<br>(~15 minutes worth of training)</li><li>{{sk|Hacking|III|icon=yes}} ''(optional, 11 hours and 14 minutes)''
+|notes=Any of the {{Sh|Magnate}}, {{Sh|Imicus}}, or {{Sh|Probe}} can also use this fitting with the same level of effectiveness.<li>Being able to fit a {{co|coral|Data Analyzer II}} module will greatly improve hacking effectiveness, as it pushes the Heron's virus strength to 35, letting it break through defensive subsystems more easily.</li><li>Right-clicking your microwarpdrive and selecting the option ''"Set auto-repeat off"'' is a good way to make sure you only run one cycle of the microwarpdrive, thus avoiding any embarrassing issues like forgetting to keep it on and capping out before you can hack the tower.</li><li>The {{co|coral|Warrior I}} drones are so that the scout can contribute damage and sponge a payout if there are less than ten ongrid ships.</li><li>Additional buffer modules, such as {{co|coral|Small Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extenders}}, can make it easier for the logi pilots to hold up this ship, in case it takes aggro in an [[OTA]].
+}}
+==== Dropper Venture ====
+{{ShipFitting
+| ship=Venture
+| fitName= Incursions (Dropper)
+| fitID= Incursions(Dropper)
+| high1name=Small Remote Shield Booster I
+| high1typeID=3586
+| high2name=open
+| high2typeID=
+| high3name=open
+| high3typeID=
+| mid1name=5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
+| mid1typeID=35658
+| mid2name=Small Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
+| mid2typeID=8427
+| mid3name=Small Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender
+| mid3typeID=8427
+| low1name=Nanofiber Internal Structure II
+| low1typeID=2605
+| rig1name=Small Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
+| rig1typeID=31153
+| rig2name=Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
+| rig2typeID=31159
+| rig3name=Small Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I
+| rig3typeID=31159
+| drone1name=Acolyte I x2
+| drone1typeID=2203
+| skills={{sk|Mining Frigate|I|icon=yes}}</li><li>{{sk|Shield Emission Systems|I|icon=yes}}</li><li>''{{sk|Cloaking|I|icon=yes}} (Optional)''</li>
+| showSKILLS=Y
+| notes=The Venture can hold 16 stacks of [[Lyavite in Incursions|Lyavite]] containing 255 units in each stack.</li><li>The {{co|coral|Small Remote Shield Extender}} is so that the scout can contribute repairs and sponge a payout if there are less than ten ongrid ships.</li><li>Adding a {{co|coral|Prototype Cloaking Device}} enables the Venture to safely enter the Nation Mining Colony before the final wave. It is not necessary to perform dropper duties, and requires Omega clone status in order to use.
+| showNOTES=Y
+| difficulty=0
+| version=February 2022
+| showTOC=N
+| alphacanuse=Y
+}}
+== Valet alt ==
+Having an alt capable of flying your ships around is invaluable when your main character is at war or otherwise indisposed. If the purpose is just to fly the ship, they wouldn't need any gunnery skills whatsoever. The same character could theoretically become your dedicated incursion/mission alt down the line to make life easier for your main character, if you have the means to support a second account that is. Since each account comes with three character slots, everyone have the ability to make two alts for their account, meaning this is an option everyone has, it's not limited to people with multiple accounts.
+Moving your actual main, who is in uni, can be done safely in something as simple as a shuttle. See [[Travel_fits#Using_dedicated_ships_for_moving_around|travel fits]] for more information on how you can easily move your main to and from incursions when you want to run.
+Below are various levels of training needed for different type of tanking capabilities. As a minimum, the '''Hull tanking''' and '''Ship skills''' is enough to fit a {{co|coral|Damage Control II}} and {{co|coral|Reinforced Bulkhead II}} modules for a solid 130 - 150k+ effective hit points buffer on a regular tech one battleship. If you train the '''Additional race''' as well, the alt could move a pirate faction battleship. The extra shield skills would allow you to upgrade the meta shield modules to tech two for a little bit more tank as well.
 {| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; text-align:center; padding:1px;"
-! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Support skills
+! [[file:icon_hull.png|32px|link=]] Hull tanking
-! [[file:icon_turret.png|32px|link=]] Gunnery skills
 ! [[file:icon_ship.png|32px|link=]] Ship skills
-! [[File:Icon drone bandwith.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills
+! [[File:icon_ship_other.png|32px|link=]] {{co|grey|Additional race}}<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{co|crimson|Optional}} - If you need your alt to be able to move a pirate faction battleship (since they require two racial ship skills).</ref></small>
-|- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
+! [[file:icon_shield_glow.png|32px|link=]] {{co|grey|Shield tanking}}<small>&nbsp;<ref>{{co|crimson|Optional}} - Increasing the train to a handful of days means you can upgrade the shield tank and use the '''Large Shield Extender II''', '''EM Shield Amplifier II''' as well as the '''Multispectrum Shield Hardener II''' modules (or any of the active hardeners or passive amplifiers).</ref></small>
-| colspan=4 align="center" | Prioritize which skills to train first, some are more important than others, so do your research.
+|- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
+| ~ 1 day and 12 hours
+| ~ 3 days and 5 hours
+| {{co|grey|~ 2 days and 11 hours}}
+| {{co|grey|~ 5 day and 11 hours}}
 |- valign="top"
 | style="padding:8px;" |
-Cybernetics V<small> <ref>'''Cybernetics''' V is required for the top-tier advanced implants, like the +6% CONCORD-implants.</ref></small><br>
+Hull Upgrades IV
-Electronics V<br>
-Engineering V<br>
-Mechanics V<br>
-Energy Management V<br>
-Energy Systems Operation V<br>
-Shield Upgrades V<br>
-Targeting V<br>
-Multitasking III<br>
-Long Range Targeting V<br>
-Jury Rigging IV<small> <ref>'''Jury Rigging''' IV is only needed if it is a requirement for your more generic rigs, like energy grid rigs.</ref></small><br>
-Shield Rigging IV<br>
-Shield Emission Systems V<br>
-Energy Emission Systems V<small> <ref name="emission">'''Energy Emission Systems''' is only required if you fly a '''Guardian''' or a '''Basilisk''' with energy transfer modules, the '''Oneiros''' and the '''Scimitar''' does not need this skill.</ref></small><br>
-Sensor Linking V<small> <ref name="links">'''Sensor Linking''' is only required if you can fit the '''Tracking Link''' module and only needed at higher skill-levels if you try to fit several faction links at once.</ref></small>
 | style="padding:8px;" |
-Weapon Upgrades V<br>
+Spaceship Command IV<br>
-Advanced Weapon Upgrades V<br>
+<racial> Frigate III<br>
-Gunnery V<br>
+<racial> Destroyer III<br>
-Motion Prediction V<br>
+<racial> Cruiser III<br>
-Rapid Firing V<br>
+<racial> Battlecruiser III<br>
-Sharpshooter V<br>
+<racial> Battleship I
-Surgical Strike V<br>
-Trajectory Analysis V<br>
-Controlled Bursts V<small> <ref>'''Controlled Bursts''' is useful for all hybrids and lasers, but useless for projectiles and missiles as they do not utilize cap.</ref></small><br>
-Small <racial> Turret V<br>
-Small <racial> Specialization IV<small> <ref name="specs">Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.</ref></small><br>
-Medium <racial> Turret V<br>
-Medium <racial> Specialization IV<small> <ref name="specs">Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.</ref></small><br>
-Large <racial> Turret V<br>
-Large <racial> Specialization IV<small> <ref name="specs">Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.</ref></small><br>
-<weapon> Rigging IV
 | style="padding:8px;" |
-<racial> Battleship V<br>
+{{co|grey|<racial> Frigate III}}<br>
-Logistics V<br>
+{{co|grey|<racial> Destroyer III}}<br>
+{{co|grey|<racial> Cruiser III}}<br>
+{{co|grey|<racial> Battlecruiser III}}<br>
+{{co|grey|<racial> Battleship I}}
 | style="padding:8px;" |
-Electronic Warfare IV<small> <ref>'''Electronic Warfare''' is required for '''Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing'''.</ref></small><br>
+{{co|grey|Shield Upgrades IV}}<br>
-Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing IV<small><ref>'''Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing''' increases your drone control range by an additional 3 km / skillevel.</ref></small><br>
+{{co|grey|Tactical Shield Manipulation IV}}
-Drone Interfacing V<br>
+|- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
-Combat Drone Operation V<br>
+| colspan="4" style="padding:2px;" | Less than 4 days and 17 hours worth of training in total for a simple valet alt
-Minmatar Drone Specialization IV<br>
-Repair Drone operation V<small> <ref>'''Repair Drone Operation V''' is needed for tech two shield maintenance bots.</ref></small>
 |}
 <small><references/></small>
+==== Travel fits ====
+The basic idea behind travel fits for the above mentioned [[#Valet alt|valet alt]] is to not be at war (which is why we use the valet) and to simply replace any modules that do not help us travel safer, so as not to be worth ganking in the first place. This means that webs, target painters, damage modules etc are removed in favour of tanking modules.
-= Secondary skills =
+The easiest way to make a travel fit for a battleship is to replace all the low slots except for the damage control with reinforced bulkheads and replace all the midslots with a combination of large shield extenders and multispectrum shield hardeners. If the character you will be moving the battleship with can use cloaking devices then fitting an Improved Cloaking Device II in a high slot and a 500MN Microwarpdrive in a midslot will allow the use of the [[Cloak trick]].
-While not critical, being able to overheat your modules for a short while is often more than enough to save your ship when things turn from bad to worse. Basic navigation skills are good too, especially a decent level in warp drive skills so you don't cap out in long warps. Having the skills to use the microwarpdrive and cloak trick for safer travel is also handy.
-As such, it's also recommended that people train the following skills:
+There is generally no need to unfit the high slot guns, if additional fitting space for tank modules is needed then guns can simply be offlined.
-{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; text-align:center; padding:8px;"
-! [[file:icon_damage_therm.png|32px|link=]] Thermodynamics
+==== Moving costly modules ====
-! [[file:Module icon microwarpdrive tech1.png|32px|link=]] Navigation
+The regular fits on the wiki have but a couple of expensive modules, like the [[image:icon_stasis_webifier_faction.png|18px|link=]]{{co|coral|Federation Navy Stasis Webifier}} and for some ships the [[image:icon_target_painter_faction.png|18px|link=]]{{co|coral|Republic Fleet Target Painter}}, which totals about {{icon|money|18}} 100 million. This can easily be carried in the hold of a travel fit battleship without much fear of becoming a gank target.
-! [[file:icon_cloak.png|32px|link=]] MWD + Cloak trick
-|- style="background:#222222;"
+If you upgrade your ship with more expensive modules, such as deadspace and other faction modules, you should secure a better way of moving those expensive modules. The [[Travel_fits#Using_dedicated_ships_for_moving_around|dedicated travel ships]] (except the shuttle) can easily hold the more expensive modules as they are often only 5 - 10 m3 in size and those ships can fit several modules in their hold.
-| ~ 5 days and 12 hours
-| ~ 9 days and 17 hours
+== Common guides ==
-| ~ 1 day and 19 hours
+There are several common guides on the wiki already. Our needs in the incursion community are a little different, but it might be useful for general purposes or to get some inspiration of what else to train on your alt.
-|- valign="top"
+* [[Creating an Alt Hauler]]
-| style="padding:8px;" |
+* [[Creating an Alt Miner]]
-Engineering V<small>&nbsp;<ref name="thermo">'''Engineering V''' and '''Science IV''' are required to train '''Thermodynamics (training time assuming you have '''Engineering IV''' already, as per the recommendations).</ref></small><br>
+* [[Creating a Scanner Alt]]
-Science IV<small>&nbsp;<ref name="thermo">.</ref></small><br>
+* [[Creating an Alt Orca Pilot]]
-Thermodynamics III
+* [[Creating a Planetary Industry Alt]]
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-Acceleration Control IV<small>&nbsp;<ref name="ab">Mostly for '''logistics'''-pilots, but generally applies to anyone who uses an '''afterburner'''.</ref></small><br>
-Afterburner IV<small>&nbsp;<ref name="ab"></ref></small><br>
-Evasive Maneuvering IV<br>
-Fuel Conservation IV<small>&nbsp;<ref name="ab"></ref></small><br>
-Navigation IV<br>
-Warp Drive Operation IV
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-High Speed Maneuvering III<br>
-Cloaking III
-|}
-<small><references/></small>
-== Crosstraining into armour ==
+[[Category:EVE University Incursion Community]][[Category:Fittings]]
-While we primarily run shield fleets, most of the skills you use will be reusable for armour fleets as well. The skills required to fit a solid armour tank is listed in the right-most column even though they are not necessary to train right away.
-{| class="wikitable" style="font-size:90%; text-align:center; padding:8px;"
-! [[file:icon_turret.png|32px|link=]] Damage dealers
-! [[file:icon_remote_armor_repair_i.png|32px|link=]] Logistics
-|- style="background:#222222;"
-| ~ 18 days and 10 hours
-| ~ 46 days and 7 hours
-|- valign="top"
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-Hull Upgrades V<br>
-Armor Rigging III<br>
-EM Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Explosive Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Kinetic Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Thermic Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Repair Systems II<small>&nbsp;<ref name="remote">'''Mechanics III''' and '''Repair Systems II''' are required to train '''Remote Armor Repair Systems'''.</ref></small><br>
-Remote Armor Repair Systems III<small>&nbsp;<ref name="armour bots">'''Remote Armor Repair Systems III''' is required to use Armor Maintenance drones.</ref></small>
-| style="padding:8px;" |
-Hull Upgrades V<br>
-Armor Rigging III<br>
-EM Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Explosive Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Kinetic Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Thermic Armor Compensation IV<br>
-Repair Systems II<small>&nbsp;<ref name="remote"></ref></small><br>
-Remote Repair Systems IV<small>&nbsp;<ref name="armour bots"></ref></small><br>
-<new racial> Frigate III<br>
-<new racial> Destroyer III<br>
-<new racial Cruiser V<br>
-|}
-<small><references/></small>