Gas in W-space: Difference between revisions

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Types of gas

==Types of gas ==

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~~Types of sites~~ and ~~enemies you will face~~

== Site Composition and Defences ==

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Vast Frontier              5000 C32 (25K m3) 1000 C28 (2000m3) 4 Cruisers

Vital Core                  500 C320 (2500m3) 6000 C540(60K m3) 2 Battleships, 2 Frigates

Vital Core                  500 C320 (2500m3) 6000 C540(60K m3) 2 Advanced Battleships, 2 Frigates

Instrumental Core       500 C540 (5000m3) 6000 C320(30K m3) 2 Battleships

Instrumental Core       500 C540 (5000m3) 6000 C320(30K m3) 2 Advanced Battleships

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~~A note on gas...~~

==The Value of Gas==

Gas does not have to be refined in order to use it as Ore and Ice products do ~~but~~ can be used as is in T3 production. ~~Because~~ of the ~~different uses~~ and ~~proliferation~~ of ~~gasses~~ the ~~values can be quite extreme~~. At time of writing C84 is worth around 180 isk/m3 while C320 is worth around 17,000 isk/m3! However getting to C320 can be very difficult so a tip for beginners is to harvest C50 which at time of writing is the second most valuable gas at around 7000 isk/m3. The sleepers can be cleared very easily and the site can be cleared very quickly due to the small size of the gas.

Gas does not have to be refined in order to use it, as Ore and Ice products do. It can be used as is in T3 production. The difference in value between gasses can be extreme, due to the scarcity of the gas and the value of the end products. At time of writing C84 is worth around 180 isk/m3 while C320 is worth around 17,000 isk/m3! However getting to C320 can be very difficult so a tip for beginners is to harvest C50 which at time of writing is the second most valuable gas at around 7000 isk/m3. The sleepers can be cleared very easily and the site can be cleared very quickly due to the small size of the gas.

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A note on the more valuable gasses...

When you start getting up to the C320/540 stage you will need several people working together to clear the site due to ~~it's~~ size ~~so you~~ will probably need haulers and also someone acting as a dedicated scout ~~because~~ there is nothing like watching someone clear a site then ganking them and taking all the gas it took them hours to harvest in a matter of minutes.

When you start getting up to the C320/540 stage you will need several people working together to clear the site due to its size. You will probably need haulers and also someone acting as a dedicated scout. Remember, there is nothing like watching someone clear a site then ganking them and taking all the gas it took them hours to harvest in a matter of minutes. Don't let it happen to you.

~~A note on ships...~~

==Ships and Fitting==

A BC works well for this due to ~~it's~~ cargo size and Grid/CPU output. If you have someone with good leadership skills then a Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization gang link will ~~affect~~ your ~~harvesters~~ cycle time ~~so it is up to you if you want to fit one~~.

A battlecruiser works well for this due to its cargo size and Grid/CPU output. If you have someone with good leadership skills then a Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization gang link will reduce your harvester's cycle time. Other links do not affect gas mining.

A ~~note~~ on ~~fitting~~...

For the rest of your fit, a Proto cloak, probe launcher and cargohold expanders are the order of the day. Oh yeah a Scanner in a mid slot is useful too so you can see how much gas is remaining (you only need a T1 scanner as you have to be 1500m from the cloud to harvest so you don't need increased range). A bit of tank is handy and cargo expanders in the lows. THERE IS NO EXCUSE NOT TO FIT 2 WARP CORE STABS! I cannot emphasise that enough. If your constant spamming of D-scan is not enough to see someone (and in a lot of cases it won't be) then if one person warps in they will need a faction scram to catch you. If they can afford that then chances are they have a much better ship and more skills than you so you are dead anyway. Otherwise a big gang will drop on you with multiple scrams in which case you are dead anyway. Two stabs are just about right for this. You may also want to fit some sort of ECM in the mids but that is up to you.

Otherwise a Proto cloak, probe launcher and expanders are the order of the day. Oh yeah a Scanner in a mid slot is useful too so you can see how much gas is remaining (you only need a T1 scanner as you have to be 1500m from the cloud to harvest so you don't need increased range). A bit of tank is handy and cargo expanders in the lows. THERE IS NO EXCUSE NOT TO FIT 2 WARP CORE STABS! I cannot emphasise that enough. If your constant spamming of D-scan is not enough to see someone (and in a lot of cases it won't be) then if one person warps in they would need a faction scram to catch you and if they can afford that then chances are they have a much better ship and more skills than you so you are dead anyway, otherwise a big gang will drop on you with multiple scrams in which case you are dead anyway. Two stabs are just about right for this. You may also want to fit some sort of ECM in the mids but that is up to you.

==In Conclusion==

Gas harvesting IS very dull as you don't even get the "click-drag" every 3 minutes that you get with regular mining, you just sit there and wait for your hold to fill up. which can take as much as 15 minutes ~~or so~~. That said it is VERY profitable~~, you~~ can get close to 200M isk/hr from harvesting C320 at time of writing which far negates any boredom you might get. Use it in T3 production and you can make it even more profitable~~, even~~ turning it into polymers can make it more valuable.

Gas harvesting is very dull as you don't even get the "click-drag" every 3 minutes that you get with regular mining. You also don't get the nice visuals you get with regular mining. You just sit there and wait for your hold to fill up before jetcanning the gas, which can take as much as 15 minutes. That said, it is VERY profitable. You can get close to 200M isk/hr from harvesting C320 at time of writing, which far negates any boredom you might get. Use it in T3 production and you can make it even more profitable. Even turning it into polymers can make it more valuable. (And a lot less bulky).

Happy Harvesting.

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 Vast Frontier&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5000 C32 (25K m3) 1000 C28 (2000m3) 4 Cruisers
-Vital Core&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 500 C320 (2500m3) 6000 C540(60K m3) 2 Battleships, 2 Frigates
+Vital Core&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 500 C320 (2500m3) 6000 C540(60K m3) 2 Advanced Battleships, 2 Frigates
-Instrumental Core&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 500 C540 (5000m3) 6000 C320(30K m3) 2 Battleships
+Instrumental Core&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 500 C540 (5000m3) 6000 C320(30K m3) 2 Advanced Battleships
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-A note on gas...
+==The Value of Gas==
-Gas does not have to be refined in order to use it as Ore and Ice products do but can be used as is in T3 production. Because of the different uses and proliferation of gasses the values can be quite extreme. At time of writing C84 is worth around 180 isk/m3 while C320 is worth around 17,000 isk/m3! However getting to C320 can be very difficult so a tip for beginners is to harvest C50 which at time of writing is the second most valuable gas at around 7000 isk/m3. The sleepers can be cleared very easily and the site can be cleared very quickly due to the small size of the gas.
+Gas does not have to be refined in order to use it, as Ore and Ice products do. It can be used as is in T3 production. The difference in value between gasses can be extreme, due to the scarcity of the gas and the value of the end products. At time of writing C84 is worth around 180 isk/m3 while C320 is worth around 17,000 isk/m3! However getting to C320 can be very difficult so a tip for beginners is to harvest C50 which at time of writing is the second most valuable gas at around 7000 isk/m3. The sleepers can be cleared very easily and the site can be cleared very quickly due to the small size of the gas.
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 A note on the more valuable gasses...
-When you start getting up to the C320/540 stage you will need several people working together to clear the site due to it's size so you will probably need haulers and also someone acting as a dedicated scout because there is nothing like watching someone clear a site then ganking them and taking all the gas it took them hours to harvest in a matter of minutes.
+When you start getting up to the C320/540 stage you will need several people working together to clear the site due to its size. You will probably need haulers and also someone acting as a dedicated scout. Remember, there is nothing like watching someone clear a site then ganking them and taking all the gas it took them hours to harvest in a matter of minutes. Don't let it happen to you.
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-A note on ships...
+==Ships and Fitting==
-A BC works well for this due to it's cargo size and Grid/CPU output. If you have someone with good leadership skills then a Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization gang link will affect your harvesters cycle time so it is up to you if you want to fit one.
+A battlecruiser works well for this due to its cargo size and Grid/CPU output. If you have someone with good leadership skills then a Mining Foreman Link - Laser Optimization gang link will reduce your harvester's cycle time.  Other links do not affect gas mining.
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-A note on fitting...
+For the rest of your fit, a Proto cloak, probe launcher and cargohold expanders are the order of the day. Oh yeah a Scanner in a mid slot is useful too so you can see how much gas is remaining (you only need a T1 scanner as you have to be 1500m from the cloud to harvest so you don't need increased range). A bit of tank is handy and cargo expanders in the lows. THERE IS NO EXCUSE NOT TO FIT 2 WARP CORE STABS! I cannot emphasise that enough. If your constant spamming of D-scan is not enough to see someone (and in a lot of cases it won't be) then if one person warps in they will need a faction scram to catch you. If they can afford that then chances are they have a much better ship and more skills than you so you are dead anyway.  Otherwise a big gang will drop on you with multiple scrams in which case you are dead anyway. Two stabs are just about right for this. You may also want to fit some sort of ECM in the mids but that is up to you.
-Otherwise a Proto cloak, probe launcher and expanders are the order of the day. Oh yeah a Scanner in a mid slot is useful too so you can see how much gas is remaining (you only need a T1 scanner as you have to be 1500m from the cloud to harvest so you don't need increased range). A bit of tank is handy and cargo expanders in the lows. THERE IS NO EXCUSE NOT TO FIT 2 WARP CORE STABS! I cannot emphasise that enough. If your constant spamming of D-scan is not enough to see someone (and in a lot of cases it won't be) then if one person warps in they would need a faction scram to catch you and if they can afford that then chances are they have a much better ship and more skills than you so you are dead anyway, otherwise a big gang will drop on you with multiple scrams in which case you are dead anyway. Two stabs are just about right for this. You may also want to fit some sort of ECM in the mids but that is up to you.
+==In Conclusion==
-Gas harvesting IS very dull as you don't even get the "click-drag" every 3 minutes that you get with regular mining, you just sit there and wait for your hold to fill up. which can take as much as 15 minutes or so. That said it is VERY profitable, you can get close to 200M isk/hr from harvesting C320 at time of writing which far negates any boredom you might get. Use it in T3 production and you can make it even more profitable, even turning it into polymers can make it more valuable.
+Gas harvesting is very dull as you don't even get the "click-drag" every 3 minutes that you get with regular mining. You also don't get the nice visuals you get with regular mining.  You just sit there and wait for your hold to fill up before jetcanning the gas, which can take as much as 15 minutes. That said, it is VERY profitable. You can get close to 200M isk/hr from harvesting C320 at time of writing, which far negates any boredom you might get. Use it in T3 production and you can make it even more profitable.  Even turning it into polymers can make it more valuable. (And a lot less bulky).
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 Happy Harvesting.