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== Suggestions ==
 
== Suggestions ==
  
I'm not aware of a forum thread for discussing changes to wartime policies, so if this is the wrong place for ordinary Unistas to make suggestions, I apologize in advance.  
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* I'm not aware of a forum thread for discussing changes to wartime policies, so if this is the wrong place for ordinary Unistas to make suggestions, I apologize in advance.  
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**<strike>I understand the reasoning for most of the wartime ship class prohibitions, but I was under the impression that some experienced Fleet Commanders liked having interceptors in warfleets, especially for rollin safespots. You may want to consider taking Interdictors off the prohibition list.</strike>
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*** An interceptor is not an interdictor. Interdictor were prohibited as they do not really fit a role in a Uni fleet as we usually do not enter 0.0 and in non-bubble space it is just an extra expensive destroyer. Interceptors are allowed. -- Frood Frooster
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**"Rigs should not be fitted on frigates, destroyers or cruisers." This statement is vague. Depending upon intent, it should be changed to "The University allows, but strongly recommends against, fitting rigs to frigates, destroyers, or cruisers" or "Rigs are prohibited on frigates, destroyers, and cruisers".
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***"Trading while docked in a station, however moving items is prohibited." should be clarified to "Station Trading (that is, trading that does not require you to undock) is allowed. Using your University character to move items from one station to another is prohibited."
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**"Dropping from E-UNI during the war - there are no penalties this." &lt;-- Change to "Dropping from E-UNI during the war and rejoining the University after the war is over - there are no penalties for this." --[[User:Seamus donohue|Seamus donohue]] 07:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
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***Forum post is here! [http://www.eve-ivy.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25963] [[User:Kelduum revaan|Kelduum revaan]] 19:33, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
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****The server and domain name recently changed. [http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25963 The new link can be found here]. --[[User:Miranda glade|Miranda Glade]] 13:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
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*****And now that thread has been locked, so I presume the correct place for making suggestions is on this page. --[[User:Miranda glade|Miranda Glade]] 00:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
  
*<strike>I understand the reasoning for most of the wartime ship class prohibitions, but I was under the impression that some experienced Fleet Commanders liked having interceptors in warfleets, especially for rollin safespots. You may want to consider taking Interdictors off the prohibition list.</strike> An interceptor is not an interdictor. Interdictor were prohibited as they do not really fit a role in a Uni fleet as we usually do not enter 0.0 and in non-bubble space it is just an extra expensive destroyer. Interceptors are allowed. -- Frood Frooster
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* Explicitly add Orca to one of the ship categories? Yes, it's common sense, but I'm sure a rules lawyer would ''never'' try and argue that it wasn't technically in one of the categories... Heck, might as well add "Industrial Command Ship" to the Capital category, just in case someone has a Rorqual? [[User:Smoogle|Smoogle]] 04:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)  
*"Rigs should not be fitted on frigates, destroyers or cruisers." This statement is vague. Depending upon intent, it should be changed to "The University allows, but strongly recommends against, fitting rigs to frigates, destroyers, or cruisers" or "Rigs are prohibited on frigates, destroyers, and cruisers".
 
*"Trading while docked in a station, however moving items is prohibited." should be clarified to "Station Trading (that is, trading that does not require you to undock) is allowed. Using your University character to move items from one station to another is prohibited."
 
*"Dropping from E-UNI during the war - there are no penalties this." &lt;-- Change to "Dropping from E-UNI during the war and rejoining the University after the war is over - there are no penalties for this."
 
  
--[[User:Seamus donohue|Seamus donohue]] 07:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
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* "Ships must be fully 'PvP fitted'. " Forum Link Broken. Maybe replace with this one http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=129&amp;t=19111 [[User:Yokitte|Yokitte]] 03:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
  
Forum post is here! [http://www.eve-ivy.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25963] [[User:Kelduum revaan|Kelduum revaan]] 19:33, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
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* The WSOP contains a section on Promoted Activities. First item on the list is Fleet Operations. Yet, there is no link to the [[Fleet Operations During War Time]] policy page. I believe a link should be included. A precedent for this exists: The [[Wartime and Official ILN Operations Loot Policy]], a similar extended policy information page, is linked from the WSOP page. --[[User:Miranda glade|Miranda Glade]] 00:14, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
*The server and domain name recently changed. [http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=25963 The new link can be found here]. --[[User:Miranda glade|Miranda Glade]] 13:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 
**And now that thread has been locked, so I presume the correct place for making suggestions is on this page. --[[User:Miranda glade|Miranda Glade]] 00:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
<br> Explicitly add Orca to one of the ship categories? Yes, it's common sense, but I'm sure a rules lawyer would ''never'' try and argue that it wasn't technically in one of the categories... Heck, might as well add "Industrial Command Ship" to the Capital category, just in case someone has a Rorqual?
 
 
 
[[User:Smoogle|Smoogle]] 04:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
 
 
 
"Ships must be fully 'PvP fitted'. " Forum Link Broken. Maybe replace with this one http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewtopic.php?f=129&amp;t=19111 [[User:Yokitte|Yokitte]] 03:24, 24 September 2010 (UTC)  
 
  
 
== Default SOP  ==
 
== Default SOP  ==

Revision as of 00:14, 9 October 2010

Suggestions

  • I'm not aware of a forum thread for discussing changes to wartime policies, so if this is the wrong place for ordinary Unistas to make suggestions, I apologize in advance.
    • I understand the reasoning for most of the wartime ship class prohibitions, but I was under the impression that some experienced Fleet Commanders liked having interceptors in warfleets, especially for rollin safespots. You may want to consider taking Interdictors off the prohibition list.
      • An interceptor is not an interdictor. Interdictor were prohibited as they do not really fit a role in a Uni fleet as we usually do not enter 0.0 and in non-bubble space it is just an extra expensive destroyer. Interceptors are allowed. -- Frood Frooster
    • "Rigs should not be fitted on frigates, destroyers or cruisers." This statement is vague. Depending upon intent, it should be changed to "The University allows, but strongly recommends against, fitting rigs to frigates, destroyers, or cruisers" or "Rigs are prohibited on frigates, destroyers, and cruisers".
      • "Trading while docked in a station, however moving items is prohibited." should be clarified to "Station Trading (that is, trading that does not require you to undock) is allowed. Using your University character to move items from one station to another is prohibited."
    • "Dropping from E-UNI during the war - there are no penalties this." <-- Change to "Dropping from E-UNI during the war and rejoining the University after the war is over - there are no penalties for this." --Seamus donohue 07:17, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Explicitly add Orca to one of the ship categories? Yes, it's common sense, but I'm sure a rules lawyer would never try and argue that it wasn't technically in one of the categories... Heck, might as well add "Industrial Command Ship" to the Capital category, just in case someone has a Rorqual? Smoogle 04:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Default SOP

Suggestions for revisions for PI:

3. Missions, Ratting, Complexes, Exploration sites, deploying PI Command Centres, moving industrial products are prohibited in k-space.[3]

Non-Fleet Activities

Hey guys:

Take a second, and read bullet 3 and bullet 4 of Non-Fleet activites. I can easily see bullet 4 sounding like "Its ok to fly a cruiser or up, as long as I use warp core stabs." I don't think this was the intent of the bulletpoint....


LJ Chimera

Communications

 "1. Remember that no communication channels are ever 100% secure, so ensure that all information on
targets or fleet composition is limited to Corp and Alliance channels. Remember to mention the
formation of the fleet in the private Chat.E-UNI channel for any members who are logged in on alts."

Perhaps another clause could be added to the final sentence to emphasise that while the existence of a fleet can be mentioned in chat.e-uni, the destination/composition/departure time etc. should not be. The issue caused some confusion in chat.e-uni today, 25/07/10

Clompy

Correction

Update link in "Ships must be fully PvP fitted." (last line, default SOP) to http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewforum.php?f=129

ILN BG2 Wiki Updates

  • This page has been worked on as part of the ILN BG2 Wiki Updates Project --Miranda Glade 12:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

SOP Update

For some reason I can't edit this page so someone else will need to add Stealthbombers to the restricted ships list --Kyrlin dishai 13:03, 27 September 2010 (UTC)