The Rookie's Guide to Fleet Ops: Difference between revisions

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== Joining a fleet ==

~~'''ALWAYS ASSUME THERE ARE SPIES IN EVERY CHANNEL, CHAT WITH CAUTION.'''~~

=== Operational security ===

* {{Co|~~yellow|'''Do not ask in ''Alliance'' or ''General (~~EVE Uni~~)'' if there~~ is a fleet ~~being formed,~~ or ~~if you can join a~~ fleet.~~''' The~~ fleet ~~commander (FC) will ask you to join them~~, not ~~the other way around.}} Monitor ''~~Alliance'' chat~~, and follow the procedures listed~~ in ~~this guide~~. ~~If you~~ have ~~questions about~~ fleet ~~formation procedures~~ that ~~are not answered in this guide~~, ~~ask in your local [[EVE University Chat Channels#Campus~~ channels~~|Campus Channel]]~~. You ~~may '''not''' ask if there are any fleets currently out - it is UNI policy not to discuss active fleet operations, for security reasons~~. ~~ ~~

* '''Forming a fleet can take a while.'''~~ ~~Usually around 15 to 30 minutes depending on how well organized the command is. The FC needs to figure out how to set up their wings and squads, ensure everyone is in an appropriate ship, and potentially send out scouts and analyze reports. ~~ ~~

* '''For small and medium sized fleets, ~~you~~ will ~~see~~ a link ~~posted~~ in the ''Alliance'' channel.~~''' ~~Simply click this to join the fleet, then move yourself to an appropriate squad. You do this by right clicking your name in the fleet window and selecting move. ~~If you miss this initial link, you can find an advert for the fleet in the [[Fleet Finder]].~~ For ~~larger~~ or ~~more~~ complex fleets we use a ~~method called X ups~~. ~~Read on~~ to ~~see how~~ this ~~works~~.~~ ~~

* '''The Fleet Commander will ask for different roles in the ''Alliance ''channel.''' ~~ They'll probably start with Wing Commanders, Squad Commanders, and Scouts. If you're a rookie, forget about filling any of those roles.~~ Different FCs all have their own way of doing invites, most will ask to X up. This means you get to type "~~X Role Hull~~" when the FC asks for the role you want to fill. For example, when the FC asks for tacklers to X up, and your role is tackler and you are in a frigate, you would type: ''X T Frig''. If you're really new, you might only have a damage frigate to offer. If you want to contribute during war, spending from a few hours to a day or two to train tackling or EW is a good idea. Some FCs may not accept DD frigates during war. Note that if you are auto-rejecting chat invitations, you cannot join a fleet. If the FC says you rejected their fleet, be sure to check your settings as described in the check list above.~~ ~~

EVE Uni is a fairly open and low-stakes entity compared to a sovereignty-holding alliance, but our policy is that members should:

* '''X-ing up ~~is NOT a~~ guarantee of an invite'''~~ ~~By X-ing up you ~~are indicating~~ your availability to the FC. They may have limited spaces due to ~~their wing/squad arrangement or~~ mission requirements, or need specific ships only to fill the remaining spaces. Most FCs will do a "final call" for anyone that got accidentally left off, but please do not persist in complaining if you are left ~~out - you will only annoy everyone by doing so~~.~~ ~~

* '''Wait until the FC calls your role before you X up.''' ~~ ~~Do not spam your X up repeatedly, as that only makes the assignments to squads more difficult for the commanders. If you were passed over, be patient. The FC should make a last call before leaving if there is time and space left in the fleet. You can then X up again.~~ ~~

* not discuss fleet movements anywhere other than in fleet chat or other chat channels set up by leadership in the fleet for the purposes of the fleet itself. This includes discussing the current or future location of a fleet, and asking for information about an active fleet. Do not ask in Alliance or Corporation chat about current fleets.

* '''Once you've been invited to the fleet and placed in a squad, your squad leader should invite you into a channel separate from the fleet channel.''' The squad channel is where you can chat. If you have questions, or have comments, or whatever, squad chat is where to type it. Not all fleets are strict about this, and there will sometimes be chatter in the fleet channel. But it is usually best to keep the chattering to squad channel.

* not join fleet channels in Mumble unless you are a current member of that fleet.

*'''You should keep the ~~Squad and~~ Fleet channel ~~windows~~ separate so you can watch ~~both~~ without tabbing.''' ~~ ~~You can separate them by clicking the tab and dragging it off. If you wish to watch the ''Local'' channel during the op, you might want to drag it off in another window as well. This is also a good idea so that (1) you can see how many people are in the current system and (2) you don't accidentally type in it, which is a Very Bad Thing™. Typing in local without the permission of the FC can get you kicked out the fleet.

* have at least a five-minute delay on any streaming of any fleet. Streamers should also ensure that sensitive information, such as chat channels, are obscured. (You should check with the FC about streaming.)

*'''Keep all chatter out of the ''Alliance'' channel.'''

=== Forming up ===

'''Forming a fleet can take a while''', Usually around 15 to 30 minutes depending on how well organized the command is. The FC needs to figure out how to set up their wings and squads, ensure everyone is in an appropriate ship, and potentially send out scouts and analyze reports. Be patient, listen carefully, and ask questions textually in fleet chat while forming up: the process can be educational itself.

For small and medium sized fleets, and some strategic operations:

* Scheduled fleets will have a notice posted in the [https://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewforum.php?f=266 Combat Fleets] forum.

* Scheduled fleets will have a calendar entry in the in-game corp calendar.

* Scheduled and impromptu fleets will be pinged in the #ping-pvp channel on Discord and in Alliance chat in-game.

* Scheduled and impromptu fleets will normally appear in the [[Fleet Finder]]; the FC might also post a link in the Alliance chat channel. Simply click this to join the fleet, then move yourself to an appropriate squad. You do this by right clicking your name in the fleet window and selecting move.

For very large or complex fleets we ''may'' use a fleet-external x-up system. If this happens, it will work as follows:

* {{Co|yellow|'''Do not ask in ''Alliance'' or ''General (EVE Uni)'' if there is a fleet being formed, or if you can join a fleet.''' The fleet commander (FC) will ask you to join them, not the other way around.}} Monitor ''Alliance'' chat, and follow the procedures listed in this guide.

* '''The Fleet Commander will ask for different roles in the ''Alliance ''channel.''' Different FCs all have their own way of doing invites, most will ask to x-up. This means you get to type "x [role] [hull]", e.g. "x logi Inquisitor", when the FC asks for the role you want to fill. If the FC says you rejected their fleet, be sure to check your settings as described in the check list above.

* '''x-ing up does not guarantee an invite''' By x-ing up you indicate your availability to the FC. They may have limited spaces due to mission requirements, or need specific ships only to fill the remaining spaces. Most FCs will do a "final call" for anyone that got accidentally left off, but please do not persist in complaining if you are left out—most of our fleets are highly inclusive, but not all can be.

* '''Wait until the FC calls your role before you x up.''' Do not spam your x-up repeatedly, as that only makes the assignments to squads more difficult for the commanders. If you were passed over, be patient. The FC should make a last call before leaving if there is time and space left in the fleet. You can then x up again.

*'''You should keep the Fleet channel window separate so you can watch it without tabbing.''' You can separate them by clicking the tab and dragging it off.

== Fleet interface ==

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 == Joining a fleet ==
-'''ALWAYS ASSUME THERE ARE SPIES IN EVERY CHANNEL, CHAT WITH CAUTION.'''
+=== Operational security ===
-* {{Co|yellow|'''Do not ask in ''Alliance'' or ''General (EVE Uni)'' if there is a fleet being formed, or if you can join a fleet.''' The fleet commander (FC) will ask you to join them, not the other way around.}}<br>Monitor ''Alliance'' chat, and follow the procedures listed in this guide. If you have questions about fleet formation procedures that are not answered in this guide, ask in your local [[EVE University Chat Channels#Campus channels|Campus Channel]]. You may '''not''' ask if there are any fleets currently out - it is UNI policy not to discuss active fleet operations, for security reasons. <br><br>
-* '''Forming a fleet can take a while.'''<br>Usually around 15 to 30 minutes depending on how well organized the command is. The FC needs to figure out how to set up their wings and squads, ensure everyone is in an appropriate ship, and potentially send out scouts and analyze reports. <br><br>
+{{main|Operational Security Policy}}
-* '''For small and medium sized fleets, you will see a link posted in the ''Alliance'' channel.'''<br>Simply click this to join the fleet, then move yourself to an appropriate squad. You do this by right clicking your name in the fleet window and selecting move. If you miss this initial link, you can find an advert for the fleet in the [[Fleet Finder]]. For larger or more complex fleets we use a method called X ups. Read on to see how this works.<br><br>
-* '''The Fleet Commander will ask for different roles in the ''Alliance ''channel.''' <br>They'll probably start with Wing Commanders, Squad Commanders, and Scouts. If you're a rookie, forget about filling any of those roles. Different FCs all have their own way of doing invites, most will ask to X up. This means you get to type "X Role Hull" when the FC asks for the role you want to fill. <br>For example, when the FC asks for tacklers to X up, and your role is tackler and you are in a frigate, you would type: ''X T Frig''.<br>If you're really new, you might only have a damage frigate to offer. If you want to contribute during war, spending from a few hours to a day or two to train tackling or EW is a good idea. Some FCs may not accept DD frigates during war. <br> Note that if you are auto-rejecting chat invitations, you cannot join a fleet.  If the FC says you rejected their fleet, be sure to check your settings as described in the check list above.<br><br>
+EVE Uni is a fairly open and low-stakes entity compared to a sovereignty-holding alliance, but our policy is that members should:
-* '''X-ing up is NOT a guarantee of an invite'''<br>By X-ing up you are indicating your availability to the FC. They may have limited spaces due to their wing/squad arrangement or mission requirements, or need specific ships only to fill the remaining spaces. Most FCs will do a "final call" for anyone that got accidentally left off, but please do not persist in complaining if you are left out - you will only annoy everyone by doing so.<br><br>
-* '''Wait until the FC calls your role before you X up.''' <br>Do not spam your X up repeatedly, as that only makes the assignments to squads more difficult for the commanders. If you were passed over, be patient. The FC should make a last call before leaving if there is time and space left in the fleet. You can then X up again.<br><br>
+*  not discuss fleet movements anywhere other than in fleet chat or other chat channels set up by leadership in the fleet for the purposes of the fleet itself. This includes discussing the current or future location of a fleet, and asking for information about an active fleet. Do not ask in Alliance or Corporation chat about current fleets.
-* '''Once you've been invited to the fleet and placed in a squad, your squad leader should invite you into a channel separate from the fleet channel.''' <br>The squad channel is where you can chat. If you have questions, or have comments, or whatever, squad chat is where to type it. Not all fleets are strict about this, and there will sometimes be chatter in the fleet channel. But it is usually best to keep the chattering to squad channel.<br><br>
+* not join fleet channels in Mumble unless you are a current member of that fleet.
-*'''You should keep the Squad and Fleet channel windows separate so you can watch both without tabbing.''' <br>You can separate them by clicking the tab and dragging it off. If you wish to watch the ''Local'' channel during the op, you might want to drag it off in another window as well. This is also a good idea so that (1) you can see how many people are in the current system and (2) you don't accidentally type in it, which is a Very Bad Thing™. Typing in local without the permission of the FC can get you kicked out the fleet.<br><br>
+* have at least a five-minute delay on any streaming of any fleet. Streamers should also ensure that sensitive information, such as chat channels, are obscured. (You should check with the FC about streaming.)
-*'''Keep all chatter out of the ''Alliance'' channel.'''
+=== Forming up ===
+'''Forming a fleet can take a while''', Usually around 15 to 30 minutes depending on how well organized the command is. The FC needs to figure out how to set up their wings and squads, ensure everyone is in an appropriate ship, and potentially send out scouts and analyze reports. Be patient, listen carefully, and ask questions textually in fleet chat while forming up: the process can be educational itself.
+For small and medium sized fleets, and some strategic operations:
+* Scheduled fleets will have a notice posted in the [https://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewforum.php?f=266 Combat Fleets] forum.
+* Scheduled fleets will have a calendar entry in the in-game corp calendar.
+* Scheduled and impromptu fleets will be pinged in the #ping-pvp channel on Discord and in Alliance chat in-game.
+* Scheduled and impromptu fleets will normally appear in the [[Fleet Finder]]; the FC might also post a link in the Alliance chat channel. Simply click this to join the fleet, then move yourself to an appropriate squad. You do this by right clicking your name in the fleet window and selecting move.
+For very large or complex fleets we ''may'' use a fleet-external x-up system. If this happens, it will work as follows:
+* {{Co|yellow|'''Do not ask in ''Alliance'' or ''General (EVE Uni)'' if there is a fleet being formed, or if you can join a fleet.''' The fleet commander (FC) will ask you to join them, not the other way around.}} Monitor ''Alliance'' chat, and follow the procedures listed in this guide.
+* '''The Fleet Commander will ask for different roles in the ''Alliance ''channel.''' Different FCs all have their own way of doing invites, most will ask to x-up. This means you get to type "x [role] [hull]", e.g. "x logi Inquisitor", when the FC asks for the role you want to fill. If the FC says you rejected their fleet, be sure to check your settings as described in the check list above.
+* '''x-ing up does not guarantee an invite''' By x-ing up you indicate your availability to the FC. They may have limited spaces due to mission requirements, or need specific ships only to fill the remaining spaces. Most FCs will do a "final call" for anyone that got accidentally left off, but please do not persist in complaining if you are left out—most of our fleets are highly inclusive, but not all can be.
+* '''Wait until the FC calls your role before you x up.''' Do not spam your x-up repeatedly, as that only makes the assignments to squads more difficult for the commanders. If you were passed over, be patient. The FC should make a last call before leaving if there is time and space left in the fleet. You can then x up again.
+*'''You should keep the Fleet channel window separate so you can watch it without tabbing.''' You can separate them by clicking the tab and dragging it off.
 == Fleet interface ==