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* volume matters | * volume matters | ||
* dont put up all your stock on the market if its more than likely gets sold in 1-2 days, it will just make other people underbid you more aggressivly | * dont put up all your stock on the market if its more than likely gets sold in 1-2 days, it will just make other people underbid you more aggressivly | ||
+ | * make use of implants to get more profit (e.g. refine efficiency implants or speed implants for hauling ) | ||
+ | * markets might not be profitable today but tomorrow and they might be profitable today but not tomorrow -> markets are changing constantly, use that to your advantage | ||
Note: there are exceptions to every rule, use your trade smarts to figure out when there is a time to better not go by them | Note: there are exceptions to every rule, use your trade smarts to figure out when there is a time to better not go by them | ||
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+ | == Haulers for Trading == | ||
+ | * freighter | ||
+ | ** keep a hauler in cargo and some cargo extenders and shield extenders to make quick intra-region pickup tasks ( dont use the freighter for everything ) | ||
+ | * hauler | ||
+ | * kestrel ( good cargo capactiy and fast ) | ||
+ | * shuttle ( use for fast run and only warp to 0 ) | ||
== Todo == | == Todo == |
Revision as of 13:44, 4 September 2010
this is to write down my thoughts on trading.
feel free to already make use of them.
in the long run i will try to write down a Trade 101 and 102 Class from them as well as a extensive Trade Tips page.
Why the market works
- hauling takes time
- people are lazy
- people like to buy were they are
- people can make more money in the time they not have to get an item elsewhere because its cheaper there
- people want to buy everything at one place
- people dont always know what the usual price of an item is or what it costs in another region
- people cant type big numbers correctly
Trading Strategies
- station trading
- inter-region trading
- intra-region trading
Finding items to trade
- mission runner setups, what modules do they use
- whats new and in demand
- any patch changes that effect items
- what do all eve players need frequently
- what gets blown up often
- what is rare
Spikes in Trading Volume
- right after Downtime every day
- 18-20 when European come online in their evening time
- at weekends the volume seems generally higher
Note: this is not the case for all items just a general observation
Tips
- write as much down as you can to plan trading (volumes, items, opportunities, observations, frequent buyer/seller names)
- diversify in as much markets as you can
- always keep isk to snatch up cheap items on the market when the opportunity arises
- lookout for market resets/buyouts of other people and ride the wave of profits they created
- plan into the feature days/weeks/months
- dont have to much spare isk laying around - keep you money working with e.g. buy orders
- be cautious when hauling - no afk hauling , always warp to 0, don't go to low-sec unless in a proper ship (e.g. transport with cloak)
- there is no free lunch - if somethings sounds to good, check the numbers three times more
- track your progress with out of game tools like eve commander
- volume matters
- dont put up all your stock on the market if its more than likely gets sold in 1-2 days, it will just make other people underbid you more aggressivly
- make use of implants to get more profit (e.g. refine efficiency implants or speed implants for hauling )
- markets might not be profitable today but tomorrow and they might be profitable today but not tomorrow -> markets are changing constantly, use that to your advantage
Note: there are exceptions to every rule, use your trade smarts to figure out when there is a time to better not go by them
Haulers for Trading
- freighter
- keep a hauler in cargo and some cargo extenders and shield extenders to make quick intra-region pickup tasks ( dont use the freighter for everything )
- hauler
- kestrel ( good cargo capactiy and fast )
- shuttle ( use for fast run and only warp to 0 )
Todo
- Ghost Orders
- Expiration of Orders
- Mind Games 8 vs 9 vs 0
- multi order sniping
- buyout games
- place alts in other regions to check prizes quickly
- mission hubs
- market hubs
- market cycles
- its not always about having the lowest sell / highest buy order (anticipate the market cycles)
- market research
- strategies in market pvp
- why shorter time orders can be better
- how to use the market windows
- interpretation of market graphs
- filter settings
- supply management
- buying items for reprocessing and selling the minerals