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== '''POSs''' ==

Using markets or clone bays at a player-owned structure (POS, as opposed to an NPC station) is one of those risk-versus-reward things that only you can decide. POS markets generally have lower sales volumes than NPC markets, so extractors might not be immediately available. You may have to discount your injectors to move them. How long can you afford to let 3,~~200M~~ ISK worth of injectors gather dust? If you choose a POS that’s well-located, you might sell your injectors at a nearby trade hub instead, but that defeats the purpose of using a POS in the first place.

Using markets or clone bays at a [[Upwell_structures|player-owned structure]] (POS, as opposed to an [[NPC_corporations|NPC]] station) is one of those risk-versus-reward things that only you can decide. POS markets generally have lower sales volumes than NPC markets, so extractors might not be immediately available. You may have to discount your injectors to move them. How long can you afford to let 4,665.5M ISK worth of injectors gather dust? If you choose a POS that’s well-located, you might sell your injectors at a nearby trade hub instead, but that defeats the purpose of using a POS in the first place.

The benefits of the Broker Relations skill don’t apply at a POS, as detailed here. Jump clones might be considerably cheaper at a POS. Sometimes they’re even complimentary if you have good standing, but they’re a relatively small expense.

The benefits of the Broker Relations skill don’t apply at a POS, as detailed [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203218962-Broker-Fee-and-Sales-Tax here]. Jump clones might be considerably cheaper at a POS. Sometimes they’re even complimentary if you have good [[Standings_101|standing]], but they’re a relatively small expense.

Consider that POSs are run by other players. Everything depends on your standing with them. That favorable tax rate, the free clone, even your docking privileges, can vanish overnight. The POS might be attacked, which has a chilling effect on its market. It might be destroyed in that attack, which means you lose your clone and everything else you had there. (Asset Safety may preserve most of your stuff, but recovering it without a clone nearby is a whole ’nother hassle!). Maybe the owner decides to decommission their POS, or quit the game entirely. Where does that leave you?

Consider that POSs are run by other players. ''Everything'' depends on your standing with them. That favorable tax rate, the free clone, even your [[Jump_clones#Losing_Access_to_Jump_Clones|docking privileges]], can vanish overnight. The POS might be attacked, which has a chilling effect on its market. It might be destroyed in that attack, which means you lose your clone and everything else you had there. ([https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289365-Asset-Safety Asset Safety] may preserve most of your stuff, but recovering it without a clone nearby is a whole ’nother hassle!). Maybe the owner decides to [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289365-Asset-Safety decommission] their POS, or quit the game entirely. Where does that leave you?

Investigating markets at POSs is a bit more difficult. You must travel to their system to determine what sales tax they charge. If you decide to go that route, try starting with the trade hub systems and their neighbors. Or work from another angle and use your market tool to see where injectors are selling well, then investigate those markets.

Investigating markets at POSs is a bit more difficult. You must travel to their system to determine what sales tax they charge. If you decide to go that route, try starting with the [[Trade_hubs|trade hub]] systems and their neighbors. Or work from another angle and use your market tool to see where injectors are selling well, then investigate those markets.

On the other hand, POSs sometimes offer tempting prices on injectors, so don’t discount them completely. A corporation that needs a steady supply of injectors out in Delve should be willing to pay handsomely for them!

On the other hand, POSs sometimes offer tempting prices on injectors, so don’t discount them completely. A corporation that needs a steady supply of injectors out in [https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Delve Delve] should be willing to pay handsomely for them!

You pay 5% at NPC markets for a reason: they’re more active, predictable, secure, and stable. But a 0.1% sales tax means you save almost 26M ISK per large injector (assuming you’ve trained Accounting V). Where’s the tipping point? Your call.

== '''Alternate suppliers''' ==

Enhancers, extractors, and other necessities can also be purchased from Loyalty Point Stores, the New Eden Store, etc., rather than on the open market. Those suppliers will require some other form of currency (Loyalty Points, PLEX, etc.), but look into them. There are bargains to be had! For example, as of this writing the New Eden Store is selling extractors at 10 for 1,120 PLEX. At an exchange rate of 3.2M ISK per PLEX, that’s about 353.9M ISK per extractor. Market prices for extractors run about 356.8M ISK, so the New Eden Store saves me ~~almost~~ 3M ISK each. Plus, if I buy them from the New Eden Store, I can redeem them in any structure. Even I can do that math!

Enhancers, extractors, and other necessities can also be purchased from [[Loyalty_Points#Loyalty_point_store|Loyalty Point Stores]], the [[New_Eden_Store|New Eden Store]], etc., rather than on the open market. Those suppliers will require some other form of currency ([[Loyalty_Points|Loyalty Points]], PLEX, etc.), but look into them. There are bargains to be had! For example, as of this writing the New Eden Store is selling extractors at 10 for 1,120 PLEX. At an exchange rate of 3.2M ISK per PLEX, that’s about 353.9M ISK per extractor. Market prices for extractors run about 356.8M ISK, so the New Eden Store saves me about 3M ISK each. Plus, if I buy them from the New Eden Store, I can redeem them in any structure. Even ''I'' can do that math!

If you intend to use your profits from skill farming to pay for your EVE account, you’ll also need an honest reliable source of reasonably-priced PLEX (because you can’t pay for your EVE account directly with ISK). As a currency, PLEX are a bit more secure (thanks to the PLEX vault), and anything you purchase with them from the New Eden Store can be redeemed at any structure by any character on the same account.

Note that you can’t pay for your EVE account with PLEX if you purchased that account through Steam or another third-party retailer. Those retailers accept only IRL currency. You can open another account directly with EVE, but you’ll be starting over as a noob.

If you intend to use your profits from {{dothis|'''skill farming'''}} to pay for your EVE account, you’ll also need an honest reliable source of reasonably-priced PLEX (because you can’t pay for your EVE account directly with ISK). As a currency, PLEX are a bit more secure (thanks to the [[PLEX_Vault|PLEX vault]]), and anything you purchase with them from the New Eden Store can be redeemed at any structure by any character on the same account.

Note that you can’t pay for your EVE account with PLEX if you purchased that account through [https://store.steampowered.com/ Steam] or another [https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx third-party retailer]. Those retailers accept only [[EVE_Lexicon#I|IRL]] currency. You can open another account directly with EVE, but you’ll be starting over as a [[EVE_Lexicon#Newbro|noob]].

== '''Small injectors''' ==

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 == '''POSs''' ==
-Using markets or clone bays at a player-owned structure (POS, as opposed to an NPC station) is one of those risk-versus-reward things that only you can decide. POS markets generally have lower sales volumes than NPC markets, so extractors might not be immediately available. You may have to discount your injectors to move them. How long can you afford to let 3,200M ISK worth of injectors gather dust? If you choose a POS that’s well-located, you might sell your injectors at a nearby trade hub instead, but that defeats the purpose of using a POS in the first place.
+Using markets or clone bays at a [[Upwell_structures|player-owned structure]] (POS, as opposed to an [[NPC_corporations|NPC]] station) is one of those risk-versus-reward things that only you can decide. POS markets generally have lower sales volumes than NPC markets, so extractors might not be immediately available. You may have to discount your injectors to move them. How long can you afford to let 4,665.5M ISK worth of injectors gather dust? If you choose a POS that’s well-located, you might sell your injectors at a nearby trade hub instead, but that defeats the purpose of using a POS in the first place.
-The benefits of the Broker Relations skill don’t apply at a POS, as detailed here. Jump clones might be considerably cheaper at a POS. Sometimes they’re even complimentary if you have good standing, but they’re a relatively small expense.
+The benefits of the Broker Relations skill don’t apply at a POS, as detailed [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203218962-Broker-Fee-and-Sales-Tax here]. Jump clones might be considerably cheaper at a POS. Sometimes they’re even complimentary if you have good [[Standings_101|standing]], but they’re a relatively small expense.
-Consider that POSs are run by other players. Everything depends on your standing with them. That favorable tax rate, the free clone, even your docking privileges, can vanish overnight. The POS might be attacked, which has a chilling effect on its market. It might be destroyed in that attack, which means you lose your clone and everything else you had there. (Asset Safety may preserve most of your stuff, but recovering it without a clone nearby is a whole ’nother hassle!). Maybe the owner decides to decommission their POS, or quit the game entirely. Where does that leave you?
+Consider that POSs are run by other players. ''Everything'' depends on your standing with them. That favorable tax rate, the free clone, even your [[Jump_clones#Losing_Access_to_Jump_Clones|docking privileges]], can vanish overnight. The POS might be attacked, which has a chilling effect on its market. It might be destroyed in that attack, which means you lose your clone and everything else you had there. ([https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289365-Asset-Safety Asset Safety] may preserve most of your stuff, but recovering it without a clone nearby is a whole ’nother hassle!). Maybe the owner decides to [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/208289365-Asset-Safety decommission] their POS, or quit the game entirely. Where does that leave you?
-Investigating markets at POSs is a bit more difficult. You must travel to their system to determine what sales tax they charge. If you decide to go that route, try starting with the trade hub systems and their neighbors. Or work from another angle and use your market tool to see where injectors are selling well, then investigate those markets.
+Investigating markets at POSs is a bit more difficult. You must travel to their system to determine what sales tax they charge. If you decide to go that route, try starting with the [[Trade_hubs|trade hub]] systems and their neighbors. Or work from another angle and use your market tool to see where injectors are selling well, then investigate those markets.
-On the other hand, POSs sometimes offer tempting prices on injectors, so don’t discount them completely. A corporation that needs a steady supply of injectors out in Delve should be willing to pay handsomely for them!
+On the other hand, POSs sometimes offer tempting prices on injectors, so don’t discount them completely. A corporation that needs a steady supply of injectors out in [https://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Delve Delve] should be willing to pay handsomely for them!
 You pay 5% at NPC markets for a reason: they’re more active, predictable, secure, and stable. But a 0.1% sales tax means you save almost 26M ISK per large injector (assuming you’ve trained Accounting V). Where’s the tipping point? Your call.
 == '''Alternate suppliers''' ==
-Enhancers, extractors, and other necessities can also be purchased from Loyalty Point Stores, the New Eden Store, etc., rather than on the open market. Those suppliers will require some other form of currency (Loyalty Points, PLEX, etc.), but look into them. There are bargains to be had! For example, as of this writing the New Eden Store is selling extractors at 10 for 1,120 PLEX. At an exchange rate of 3.2M ISK per PLEX, that’s about 353.9M ISK per extractor. Market prices for extractors run about 356.8M ISK, so the New Eden Store saves me almost 3M ISK each. Plus, if I buy them from the New Eden Store, I can redeem them in any structure. Even I can do that math!
+Enhancers, extractors, and other necessities can also be purchased from [[Loyalty_Points#Loyalty_point_store|Loyalty Point Stores]], the [[New_Eden_Store|New Eden Store]], etc., rather than on the open market. Those suppliers will require some other form of currency ([[Loyalty_Points|Loyalty Points]], PLEX, etc.), but look into them. There are bargains to be had! For example, as of this writing the New Eden Store is selling extractors at 10 for 1,120 PLEX. At an exchange rate of 3.2M ISK per PLEX, that’s about 353.9M ISK per extractor. Market prices for extractors run about 356.8M ISK, so the New Eden Store saves me about 3M ISK each. Plus, if I buy them from the New Eden Store, I can redeem them in any structure. Even ''I'' can do that math!
-If you intend to use your profits from skill farming to pay for your EVE account, you’ll also need an honest reliable source of reasonably-priced PLEX (because you can’t pay for your EVE account directly with ISK). As a currency, PLEX are a bit more secure (thanks to the PLEX vault), and anything you purchase with them from the New Eden Store can be redeemed at any structure by any character on the same account.
-Note that you can’t pay for your EVE account with PLEX if you purchased that account through Steam or another third-party retailer. Those retailers accept only IRL currency. You can open another account directly with EVE, but you’ll be starting over as a noob.
+If you intend to use your profits from {{dothis|'''skill farming'''}} to pay for your EVE account, you’ll also need an honest reliable source of reasonably-priced PLEX (because you can’t pay for your EVE account directly with ISK). As a currency, PLEX are a bit more secure (thanks to the [[PLEX_Vault|PLEX vault]]), and anything you purchase with them from the New Eden Store can be redeemed at any structure by any character on the same account.
+Note that you can’t pay for your EVE account with PLEX if you purchased that account through [https://store.steampowered.com/ Steam] or another [https://secure.eveonline.com/etc.aspx third-party retailer]. Those retailers accept only [[EVE_Lexicon#I|IRL]] currency. You can open another account directly with EVE, but you’ll be starting over as a [[EVE_Lexicon#Newbro|noob]].
 == '''Small injectors''' ==