Talk:Implants: Difference between revisions

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:: Changed Secondary Effect from "Capacitor regeneration speed" to "Capacitor recharge time" and made the percentages negative. Put a strike trough on the Total Effect for now. -- [[User:Evon R'al|Evon R'al]] ([[User talk:Evon R'al|talk]]) 12:36, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

:: UNDEADLI's and mine results for calculating the Total Effect initially differed. Caused by me wrongly interpretating how the set bonus should be applied. After explanation by UNDEADLI and reading CCP's support article about [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/211314069-Implants implants] which says "Some Implants are part of an implant set, providing a set bonus with each additional implant of the same set plugged in." I agree with UNDEADLI and updated the Total Effect fields. -- [[User:Evon R'al|Evon R'al]] ([[User talk:Evon R'al|talk]]) 15:39, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

: Thanks for reacting to this. Sorry for late reply; I'm not really a eveuniversity power user. My calculation for the high grade set is essentially what UNDEADLY answered and as follows. We assume raw implant bonuses shown in game are not rounded and round the calculation at end to minimize power based oom error accumulation.

: The total modifier m for the secondary effects is calculated m= 1.15^5 * 1.5 = 3.01703578125 with secondary effects alpha through gamma of alpha=1-m*0.01, beta=1-m*0.02, gamma=1-m*0.03, delta=1-m*0.04, epsilon=1-m*0.05, gamma=1-m*0.00=1.

: alpha = 1- 0.0301703578125 = 0.9698296421875

: beta = 1- 0.060340715625 = 0.939659284375

: gamma = 1- 0.0905110734375 = 0.9094889265625

: delta = 1- 0.12068143125 = 0.87931856875

: epsilon = 1- 0.1508517890625 = 0.8491482109375

: gamma = 1-0 = 1

: total recharge time multiplier = alpha*beta*gamma*delta*epsiplon*gamma = 0.61886086792552306245615800849058 := 0.6189

: -> recharge time reduction = 1-0.6189 = 0.3811 = 38.11%

: that equals charge/s modifier of 1/0.6189 = 1.6159 resulting in a 61.59% increase of cap/s gained. -- [[User:Skeltek|Skeltek]] ([[User talf:Skeltek|talk]]} 18:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

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 :: Changed Secondary Effect from "Capacitor regeneration speed" to "Capacitor recharge time" and made the percentages negative. Put a strike trough on the Total Effect for now. -- [[User:Evon R&#39;al|Evon R&#39;al]] ([[User talk:Evon R&#39;al|talk]]) 12:36, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
 :: UNDEADLI's and mine results for calculating the Total Effect initially differed. Caused by me wrongly interpretating how the set bonus should be applied. After explanation by UNDEADLI and reading CCP's support article about [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/211314069-Implants implants] which says "Some Implants are part of an implant set, providing a set bonus with each additional implant of the same set plugged in." I agree with UNDEADLI and updated the Total Effect fields. -- [[User:Evon R&#39;al|Evon R&#39;al]] ([[User talk:Evon R&#39;al|talk]]) 15:39, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
+: Thanks for reacting to this. Sorry for late reply; I'm not really a eveuniversity power user. My calculation for the high grade set is essentially what UNDEADLY answered and as follows. We assume raw implant bonuses shown in game are not rounded and round the calculation at end to minimize power based oom error accumulation.
+: The total modifier m for the secondary effects is calculated m= 1.15^5 * 1.5 = 3.01703578125 with secondary effects alpha through gamma of alpha=1-m*0.01, beta=1-m*0.02, gamma=1-m*0.03, delta=1-m*0.04, epsilon=1-m*0.05, gamma=1-m*0.00=1.
+: alpha = 1- 0.0301703578125 = 0.9698296421875
+: beta = 1- 0.060340715625 = 0.939659284375
+: gamma = 1- 0.0905110734375 = 0.9094889265625
+: delta = 1- 0.12068143125 = 0.87931856875
+: epsilon = 1- 0.1508517890625 = 0.8491482109375
+: gamma = 1-0 = 1
+: total recharge time multiplier = alpha*beta*gamma*delta*epsiplon*gamma = 0.61886086792552306245615800849058 := 0.6189
+: -> recharge time reduction = 1-0.6189 = 0.3811 = 38.11%
+: that equals charge/s modifier of 1/0.6189 = 1.6159 resulting in a 61.59% increase of cap/s gained. -- [[User:Skeltek|Skeltek]] ([[User talf:Skeltek|talk]]} 18:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)