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This is the personal draft space for elaborating the idea.
This is the personal draft space for elaborating the idea.


Widget will be avaliable on github or something...
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'''Note:''' On this page, the terms "''orbitting speed''" and "''orbitting velocity''" are used interchangeably. They both refer to the target’s movement speed along its orbital path. Also, the term "''stationary''" is used instead of "''static''" to more accurately describe ships that are not moving.
'''Note:''' On this page, the terms "''orbitting speed''" and "''orbitting velocity''" are used interchangeably. They both refer to the target’s movement speed along its orbital path. Also, the term "''stationary''" is used instead of "''static''" to more accurately describe ships that are not moving.
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It is recommended to read the [[Turret_mechanics#Hit_chance]] section beforehand, as this explanation assumes a basic understanding of turret mechanics.
It is recommended to read the [[Turret_mechanics#Hit_chance]] section beforehand, as this explanation assumes a basic understanding of turret mechanics.
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According to the [[Turret_mechanics#Hit_Math|hit chance formula]], we have:
According to the [[Turret_mechanics#Hit_Math|hit chance formula]], we have:


:<math> \displaystyle \text{Chance to hit} = 0.5^{\displaystyle \left( \left( \frac{\text{Angular} \times 40,000 \text{ m}}{\text{Tracking} \times \text{Signature}} \right)^2 + \left(\frac{\max(0,\ \text{Distance} - \text{Optimal})}{\text{Falloff}} \right)^2\right)} </math>
:<math> \displaystyle \text{Chance to hit} = 0.5^{\displaystyle \left( \left( \frac{\text{Angular} \times 40,000 \text{ m}}{\text{Tracking} \times \text{Signature}} \right)^2 + \left(\frac{\max(0,\ \text{Distance} - \text{Optimal})}{\text{Falloff}} \right)^2\right)} </math>
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To visualize this complex formula intuitively, we apply the following constraints to simplify the setup:
To visualize this complex formula intuitively, we apply the following constraints to simplify the setup:
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[[File:Turret tracking visualization small blaster vs static.png|thumb|Small blaster v.s. 100 sig static object]]
[[File:Turret tracking visualization small blaster vs static.png|thumb|Small blaster v.s. 100 sig static object]]
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For different weapon types
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<div>[[File:Turret tracking visualization small autocannon vs static.png|thumb|Small autocannon v.s. 100 sig static object]]</div>
<div>[[File:Turret tracking visualization small pulse vs static.png|thumb|Small pulse laser v.s. 100 sig static object]]</div>
<div>[[File:Turret tracking visualization small blaster vs static.png|thumb|Small blaster v.s. 100 sig static object]]</div>
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Revision as of 08:22, 31 May 2025

This is the personal draft space for elaborating the idea.

Widget will be available on github or something...

Note: On this page, the terms "orbitting speed" and "orbitting velocity" are used interchangeably. They both refer to the target’s movement speed along its orbital path. Also, the term "stationary" is used instead of "static" to more accurately describe ships that are not moving.

Visualization formula derivation

It is recommended to read the Turret_mechanics#Hit_chance section beforehand, as this explanation assumes a basic understanding of turret mechanics.


According to the hit chance formula, we have:

Chance to hit=0.5((Angular×40,000 mTracking×Signature)2+(max(0,DistanceOptimal)Falloff)2)


To visualize this complex formula intuitively, we apply the following constraints to simplify the setup:

  • The attacker is stationary.[Note 1]
  • The target is either stationary or moving in a perfect circular orbit around the attacker.
  • The scenario takes place on a 2D plane.[Note 2]


First, consider the distance term.

(max(0,DistanceOptimal)Falloff)2

This term shows that hit chance decreases the further the target is beyond optimal range. This relationship can be visualized along a 1D axis.

The heatmap of hit chance, from a stationary 200mm Autocannon I without any ammo or skill, tracking an orbitting object at a distance of 5000 meter and 1380m/s speed, is 60.55%.
The heatmap of hit chance, from a stationary attacker, tracking an orbitting object.
Note that the orbitting velocity (orange arrow arc) lies within the yellow area of the heatmap, which represents mediocre hit chance.


Next, consider the tracking term:

(Angular×40,000 mTracking×Signature)2

We can visualize the target's orbiting motion as an arc. The length of this arc over one second represents the target’s orbital velocity. For a given orbital velocity, the angular velocity (how quickly the target moves across the turret’s aim) increases as the orbital radius (distance to the attacker) decreases:

Angular Velocity=Orbitting VelocityOrbitting Distance

This means, the closer the target is while orbiting at the same speed, the harder it is for the turret to track.

From this, we can interpret the turret's tracking stat as a kind of "maximum allowable angular velocity" it can handle. Visually, this forms a 2D cone shape where hit chance remains high within the cone and falls off outside of it.


By combining the 1D distance-based falloff term with the 2D angular velocity-based tracking cone, we can visualize the hit chance on a 2D plane using a heatmap.

  1. ^ If the attacker is moving, we can treat it as stationary by adding its velocity to the target instead. This doesn't change the relative motion.
  2. ^ This can be easily generalized to 3D.

Title for some examples ?

Examples for parameters change and practical usage (web, TP, tracking computer etc.)

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Table for different weapon types
Small autocannon v.s. 100 sig static object
Small pulse laser v.s. 100 sig static object
Small blaster v.s. 100 sig static object

Demo

For different weapon types

Small autocannon v.s. 100 sig static object
Small pulse laser v.s. 100 sig static object
Small blaster v.s. 100 sig static object
Table for different signatures
Small autocannon v.s. 100 sig static object
Small autocannon v.s. static Amarr shuttle
Small autocannon v.s. static Praxis battleship
Table for same weapon category
Small autocannon v.s. 100 sig static object
Small artillery v.s. 100 sig static object
Medium autocannon v.s. 100 sig static object

Title 3

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