Incursion Fitting: Vanguard: Difference between revisions

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=====Battleships=====

*[[Abbadon]] Huge capacitor issues, Bad Tracking, Requires high skills, Best damage at range

*[[Apocalypse]] Very bad tank, Capacitor issues, Bad tracking, Best damage at range

*[[Rokh]] Great tank, 1 utility mid slot, Solid damage

*[[Hyperion]] Very high close range damage, Some tracking problems, Utility mid slot.

*[[Megathron]] Very High close range damage, Some tracking problems, Utility high slot, Large drone bay

*[[Maelstrom]] Good damage both close and at range

*[[Tempest]] Solid damage, missing some range and tracking, 2 utility high slots

None of the Amarr BSs are well suited for Shield Incursions. The one thing they bring that no other BS can is sufficient range to hit the Mara with Pulse Lasers. Unfortunately, none of the BSs will be able to bring Mid Slot utility modules when shield tanked, unlike most other BSs. This means that all have problems with tracking due to the low tracking of lasers and the inability to fit tracking computers. Looking at the individual ships, the [[Armageddon]] does not have enough Mid Slots to be shield tanked. The [[Abaddon]]'s capacitor problems are ~~too~~ sever ~~to try making the ship work~~. This leaves the [[Apocalypse]] which has good capacitor life with high skills. Though because this ship has a huge signature radius and small Shield HP it is not recommended.

None of the Amarr BSs are well suited for Shield Incursions. The one thing they bring that no other BS can is sufficient range to hit the Mara with Pulse Lasers. Unfortunately, none of the BSs will be able to bring Mid Slot utility modules when shield tanked, unlike most other BSs. This means that all have problems with tracking due to the low tracking of lasers and the inability to fit tracking computers. Looking at the individual ships, the [[Armageddon]] does not have enough Mid Slots to be shield tanked. The [[Abaddon]]'s capacitor problems are sever, but can be managed with high skills. This leaves the [[Apocalypse]] for low skilled Amarr pilots, which has good capacitor life with high skills. Though because this ship has a huge signature radius and small Shield HP it is not recommended.

The only Caldari BS suitable for Vanguards is the [[Rokh]]. Both the [[Raven]] and [[Scorpion]] use large missiles which are very ineffective against frigates and cruisers. The [[Rokh]]'s bonuses are not the best for damage, but it has a very good tank. Further a Pilot with BS IV has the option to swap an Invulnerability field for a utility module.

All the Gallente BSs have bonuses to Hybrid Turret damage. The [[Megathron]] is preferred because it also has a bonus to tracking speed, which is very relevant against frigates. Further it can fit a full flight of Sentry Drones if needed and has a utility high slot for an ET or Drone Link Augmentor. The [[Hyperion]]'s bonus to armor repair is irrelevant in Incursions as there are always Logistics ships, but it does have the potential for a better Shield tank than the [[Megathron]] due to higher base shield HP and an extra mid slot. The [[Dominix]] is also sub-optimal because it has the fewest turret points, it has low base shield HP, and it relies on Drones for most of its damage.

All the Gallente BSs have bonuses to Hybrid Turret damage. The [[Megathron]] is preferred because it also has a bonus to tracking speed, which is very relevant against frigates. Further it can fit a full flight of Sentry Drones if needed and has a utility high slot for an ET or Drone Link Augmentor. The [[Hyperion]]'s bonus to armor repair is irrelevant in Incursions as there are always Logistics ships, but it does have the potential for a better Shield tank than the [[Megathron]] due to higher base shield HP and an extra mid slot. Also it can have higher damage due to the extra turret slot and can fit a Tracking Computer or Web in the utility mid slot. The [[Dominix]] is also sub-optimal because it has the fewest turret points, it has low base shield HP, and it relies on Drones for most of its damage.

For the Minmatar the [[Maelstrom]] deals more damage than the [[Tempest]] until a pilot has Minmatar Battleship V. (At this point the pilot should consider the [[Tempest Fleet Issue]].) In addition the [[Maelstrom]] has 6 mid slots instead of 5, making it easier to fit a shield tank and utility modules. Finally, the [[Maelstrom]] can fit 2 Tracking computers to the [[Tempest]]'s 1, meaning it has better tracking or range as needed. The one advantage of the [[Tempest]] is its two utility high slots, which tend to be at a premium in Tech I fleets. While both hulls are usable in Incursions, the [[Maelstrom]] is preferred for shield fleets.

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 =====Battleships=====
+*[[Abbadon]] Huge capacitor issues, Bad Tracking, Requires high skills, Best damage at range
 *[[Apocalypse]] Very bad tank, Capacitor issues, Bad tracking, Best damage at range
 *[[Rokh]] Great tank, 1 utility mid slot, Solid damage
+*[[Hyperion]] Very high close range damage, Some tracking problems, Utility mid slot.
 *[[Megathron]] Very High close range damage, Some tracking problems, Utility high slot, Large drone bay
 *[[Maelstrom]] Good damage both close and at range
 *[[Tempest]] Solid damage, missing some range and tracking, 2 utility high slots
-None of the Amarr BSs are well suited for Shield Incursions. The one thing they bring that no other BS can is sufficient range to hit the Mara with Pulse Lasers. Unfortunately, none of the BSs will be able to bring Mid Slot utility modules when shield tanked, unlike most other BSs. This means that all have problems with tracking due to the low tracking of lasers and the inability to fit tracking computers. Looking at the individual ships, the [[Armageddon]] does not have enough Mid Slots to be shield tanked. The [[Abaddon]]'s capacitor problems are too sever to try making the ship work. This leaves the [[Apocalypse]] which has good capacitor life with high skills. Though because this ship has a huge signature radius and small Shield HP it is not recommended.
+None of the Amarr BSs are well suited for Shield Incursions. The one thing they bring that no other BS can is sufficient range to hit the Mara with Pulse Lasers. Unfortunately, none of the BSs will be able to bring Mid Slot utility modules when shield tanked, unlike most other BSs. This means that all have problems with tracking due to the low tracking of lasers and the inability to fit tracking computers. Looking at the individual ships, the [[Armageddon]] does not have enough Mid Slots to be shield tanked. The [[Abaddon]]'s capacitor problems are sever, but can be managed with high skills. This leaves the [[Apocalypse]] for low skilled Amarr pilots, which has good capacitor life with high skills. Though because this ship has a huge signature radius and small Shield HP it is not recommended.
 The only Caldari BS suitable for Vanguards is the [[Rokh]]. Both the [[Raven]] and [[Scorpion]] use large missiles which are very ineffective against frigates and cruisers. The [[Rokh]]'s bonuses are not the best for damage, but it has a very good tank. Further a Pilot with BS IV has the option to swap an Invulnerability field for a utility module.
-All the Gallente BSs have bonuses to Hybrid Turret damage. The [[Megathron]] is preferred because it also has a bonus to tracking speed, which is very relevant against frigates. Further it can fit a full flight of Sentry Drones if needed and has a utility high slot for an ET or Drone Link Augmentor. The [[Hyperion]]'s bonus to armor repair is irrelevant in Incursions as there are always Logistics ships, but it does have the potential for a better Shield tank than the [[Megathron]] due to higher base shield HP and an extra mid slot. The [[Dominix]] is also sub-optimal because it has the fewest turret points, it has low base shield HP, and it relies on Drones for most of its damage.
+All the Gallente BSs have bonuses to Hybrid Turret damage. The [[Megathron]] is preferred because it also has a bonus to tracking speed, which is very relevant against frigates. Further it can fit a full flight of Sentry Drones if needed and has a utility high slot for an ET or Drone Link Augmentor. The [[Hyperion]]'s bonus to armor repair is irrelevant in Incursions as there are always Logistics ships, but it does have the potential for a better Shield tank than the [[Megathron]] due to higher base shield HP and an extra mid slot. Also it can have higher damage due to the extra turret slot and can fit a Tracking Computer or Web in the utility mid slot. The [[Dominix]] is also sub-optimal because it has the fewest turret points, it has low base shield HP, and it relies on Drones for most of its damage.
 For the Minmatar the [[Maelstrom]] deals more damage than the [[Tempest]] until a pilot has Minmatar Battleship V. (At this point the pilot should consider the [[Tempest Fleet Issue]].) In addition the [[Maelstrom]] has 6 mid slots instead of 5, making it easier to fit a shield tank and utility modules. Finally, the [[Maelstrom]] can fit 2 Tracking computers to the [[Tempest]]'s 1, meaning it has better tracking or range as needed. The one advantage of the [[Tempest]] is its two utility high slots, which tend to be at a premium in Tech I fleets. While both hulls are usable in Incursions, the [[Maelstrom]] is preferred for shield fleets.