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Recommended skills

The following skills are recommended, if not downright required to fit the modules you have to in order to do incursions. For more information on what the different skills do, see the Support Skills page. It's worth noting that the skills we recommend are basic skills, useful for pretty much all combat ships in EVE.

The training times listed for these will assume that you trained Cybernetics I and got a cheap set of +3 attribute implants, which is not only reasonable but highly recommended regardless what you plan on doing in EVE. There's even The +3 Implants Program for unistas to get started.

Damage dealers

Getting the recommended skills for a damage dealer requires less than 59 days of training, if you train into a turret-based battleship on a brand new character.

Considering that is far more likely that you come looking for incursions after you have played the game for at least a couple of weeks, having trained some of the support skills already (the tutorial mentions many of them), you can often get ready much faster. Add to that the potential of neural remapping and what might seem like a daunting train can be covered in no-time.

These recommended skills will allow you to fly any of the recommended battleships for vanguards and assaults.

Support skills	Gunnery skills	Ship skills	Drone skills
~ 18 days and 18 hours	~ 22 days and 2 hours	~ 4 days and 15 hours	~ 13 days and 2 hours
Cybernetics I Electronics IV Engineering IV Mechanics IV Weapon Upgrades IV Energy Management IV Energy Systems Operation IV Shield Upgrades IV Tactical Shield Manipulation IV Signature Analysis IV Targeting IV Long Range Targeting IV Propulsion Jamming III Target Painting III ^[1] Jury Rigging III Shield Rigging III	Gunnery V Motion Prediction IV Rapid Firing IV Sharpshooter IV Surgical Strike IV Trajectory Analysis IV Controlled Bursts IV ^[2] Small <racial> Turret III Medium <racial> Turret IV Large <racial> Turret III	<racial> Frigate III <racial> Destroyer III <racial> Cruiser III <racial> Battlecruiser III Spaceship Command IV <racial> Battleship III Warp Drive Operation III	Drones V Drone Interfacing III Scout Drone Operation V ^[3] Combat Drone Operation III Minmatar Drone Specialization III ^[3] Drone Durability I ^[4] Repair Drone Operation II ^[4] Shield Emission Systems III ^[4]
~ 58 days and 12 hours worth of training in total

^ Target Painting III is only needed if you'll use a Target Painter module.
^ Controlled Bursts is useful for all hybrids and lasers, but useless for projectiles and missiles as they do not utilize cap.
^ ^a ^b Drones V, Scout Drone Operation V and Minmatar Drone Specialization I is required to use Warrior II and Valkyrie II drones.
^ ^a ^b ^c Drone Durability I, Repair Drone Operation II and Shield Emission System III is required to use Shield Maintenance drones, which can be trained in mere hours if you can already use tech two scout drones.

Logistics

Training for logistics is considerably more time-consuming than that of a regular damage dealer. Please remember that when you think the above mentioned skills for a damage dealer is a long train.

It takes up to 75 days to get good enough skills to fly a logistics starter fit.

Support skills	Repair skills	Ship skills	Drone skills
~ 17 days and 23 hours	~ 4 days and 3 hours	~ 47 days and 16 hours	~ 5 days and 6 hours
Cybernetics I Electronics IV Engineering IV Mechanics IV Energy Management IV Energy Systems Operation IV Shield Upgrades IV Tactical Shield Manipulation IV Targeting V ^[1] Multitasking III ^[2] Jury Rigging III Shield Rigging III	Shield Emission Systems IV Energy Emission Systems IV Sensor Linking III	<racial> Frigate III <racial> Destroyer III <racial> Cruiser III Signature Analysis V ^[3] Long Range Targeting V ^[3] Logistics IV Afterburner III Warp Drive Operation III	Drones V Drone Durability I ^[4] Repair Drone Operation II ^[4] Shield Emission Systems III ^[5]
~ 75 days worth of training in total

^ Targeting V is a requirement for Multitasking.
^ Multitasking III is required to lock up 10 fleet members.
^ ^a ^b Signature Analysis V and Long Range Targeting V is a requirement for the Logistics skill.
^ ^a ^b Drone Durability I, Repair Drone Operation II and Shield Emission System III is required to use Shield Maintenance drones, which can be trained in mere hours if you can already use tech two scout drones.
^ This skill is a requirement for Shield Transporters and Shield Maintenance Bots and is covered in the Repair skills section.

Honing your skills

Remember that the recommended skills are just the beginning and there is much room for improvement. Increase these skills, train up for tech two weaponry and max out the gunnery and support skills, and your ship will be much more efficient. You'll also have many more options to improve your fit with better fitting and support skills, like upgrading a module, drop an excessive tank module for more utility modules and so forth.

What you're going to train next differs a little bit based on what ship and what weapons you're going to use. For some fitting skills will be prioritized due to the lack of CPU or powergrid of their hull, for others capacitor skills are more important while others can simply go straight for better ship skills and tech two weaponry.

Support skills	Gunnery skills	Ship skills	Drone skills
Prioritize which skills to train first, some are more important than others, so do your research.
Cybernetics V ^[1] Electronics V Engineering V Mechanics V Energy Management V Energy Systems Operation V Shield Upgrades V Targeting V Multitasking III Long Range Targeting V Jury Rigging IV ^[2] Shield Rigging IV Shield Emission Systems V Energy Emission Systems V ^[3] Sensor Linking V ^[4]	Weapon Upgrades V Advanced Weapon Upgrades V Gunnery V Motion Prediction V Rapid Firing V Sharpshooter V Surgical Strike V Trajectory Analysis V Controlled Bursts V ^[5] Small <racial> Turret V Small <racial> Specialization IV ^[6] Medium <racial> Turret V Medium <racial> Specialization IV ^[6] Large <racial> Turret V Large <racial> Specialization IV ^[6] <weapon> Rigging IV	<racial> Battleship V Logistics V	Electronic Warfare IV ^[7] Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing IV^[8] Drone Interfacing V Combat Drone Operation V Minmatar Drone Specialization IV Repair Drone operation V ^[9]

^ Cybernetics V is required for the top-tier advanced implants, like the +6% CONCORD-implants.
^ Jury Rigging IV is only needed if it is a requirement for your more generic rigs, like energy grid rigs.
^ Energy Emission Systems is only required if you fly a Guardian or a Basilisk with energy transfer modules, the Oneiros and the Scimitar does not need this skill.
^ Sensor Linking is only required if you can fit the Tracking Link module and only needed at higher skill-levels if you try to fit several faction links at once.
^ Controlled Bursts is useful for all hybrids and lasers, but useless for projectiles and missiles as they do not utilize cap.
^ ^a ^b ^c Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.
^ Electronic Warfare is required for Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing.
^ Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing increases your drone control range by an additional 3 km / skillevel.
^ Repair Drone Operation V is needed for tech two shield maintenance bots.

Secondary skills

While not critical, being able to overheat your modules for a short while is often more than enough to save your ship when things turn from bad to worse. Basic navigation skills are good too, especially a decent level in warp drive skills so you don't cap out in long warps. Having the skills to use the microwarpdrive and cloak trick for safer travel is also handy.

As such, it's also recommended that people train the following skills:

Thermodynamics	Navigation	32px MWD + Cloak trick
~ 5 days and 12 hours	~ 9 days and 17 hours	~ 1 day and 19 hours
Engineering V ^[1] Science IV ^[1] Thermodynamics III	Acceleration Control IV ^[2] Afterburner IV ^[2] Evasive Maneuvering IV Fuel Conservation IV ^[2] Navigation IV Warp Drive Operation IV	High Speed Maneuvering III Cloaking III

^ ^a ^b Engineering V and Science IV are required to train Thermodynamics (training time assuming you have Engineering IV already, as per the recommendations). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "thermo" defined multiple times with different content
^ ^a ^b ^c Mostly for logistics-pilots, but generally applies to anyone who uses an afterburner.

Crosstraining into armour

While we primarily run shield fleets, most of the skills you use will be reusable for armour fleets as well. The skills required to fit a solid armour tank is listed in the right-most column even though they are not necessary to train right away.

Damage dealers	Logistics
~ 12 days and 18 hours	~ some days
Hull Upgrades V Armor Rigging III EM Armor Compensation III Explosive Armor Compensation III Kinetic Armor Compensation III Thermic Armor Compensation III Repair Systems II ^[1] Remote Armor Repair Systems III ^[2]	Hull Upgrades V Armor Rigging III EM Armor Compensation III Explosive Armor Compensation III Kinetic Armor Compensation III Thermic Armor Compensation III Repair Systems II ^[1] Remote Repair Systems IV ^[2] <racial> Frigate III <racial> Destroyer III <racial Cruiser V

^ ^a ^b Mechanics III and Repair Systems II are required to train Remote Armor Repair Systems.
^ ^a ^b Remote Armor Repair Systems III is required to use Armor Maintenance drones.

[1] Target Painting III is only needed if you'll use a Target Painter module.

[2] Controlled Bursts is useful for all hybrids and lasers, but useless for projectiles and missiles as they do not utilize cap.

[warriors-3] Drones V, Scout Drone Operation V and Minmatar Drone Specialization I is required to use Warrior II and Valkyrie II drones.

[maintenance-4] Drone Durability I, Repair Drone Operation II and Shield Emission System III is required to use Shield Maintenance drones, which can be trained in mere hours if you can already use tech two scout drones.

[5] Targeting V is a requirement for Multitasking.

[6] Multitasking III is required to lock up 10 fleet members.

[logistics-7] Signature Analysis V and Long Range Targeting V is a requirement for the Logistics skill.

[maintenance-8] Drone Durability I, Repair Drone Operation II and Shield Emission System III is required to use Shield Maintenance drones, which can be trained in mere hours if you can already use tech two scout drones.

[9] This skill is a requirement for Shield Transporters and Shield Maintenance Bots and is covered in the Repair skills section.

[10] Cybernetics V is required for the top-tier advanced implants, like the +6% CONCORD-implants.

[11] Jury Rigging IV is only needed if it is a requirement for your more generic rigs, like energy grid rigs.

[emission-12] Energy Emission Systems is only required if you fly a Guardian or a Basilisk with energy transfer modules, the Oneiros and the Scimitar does not need this skill.

[links-13] Sensor Linking is only required if you can fit the Tracking Link module and only needed at higher skill-levels if you try to fit several faction links at once.

[14] Controlled Bursts is useful for all hybrids and lasers, but useless for projectiles and missiles as they do not utilize cap.

[specs-15] Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.

[16] Electronic Warfare is required for Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing.

[17] Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing increases your drone control range by an additional 3 km / skillevel.

[18] Repair Drone Operation V is needed for tech two shield maintenance bots.

[thermo-19] Engineering V and Science IV are required to train Thermodynamics (training time assuming you have Engineering IV already, as per the recommendations). Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; name "thermo" defined multiple times with different content

[ab-20] Mostly for logistics-pilots, but generally applies to anyone who uses an afterburner.

[remote-21] Mechanics III and Repair Systems II are required to train Remote Armor Repair Systems.

[armour_bots-22] Remote Armor Repair Systems III is required to use Armor Maintenance drones.

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 == Honing your skills ==
-Remember that these recommendations are just for the basic levels and there is much room for improvement. Increase these skills, train up for tech two weaponry and max out the gunnery and support skills, and your ship will be much more efficient. You'll also have many more options to improve your fit with better fitting and support skills, like upgrading a module, swap out an ancillary current rig for a damage rig, drop an excessive tank module for more utility modules and so forth.
+Remember that the recommended skills are just the beginning and there is much room for improvement. Increase these skills, train up for tech two weaponry and max out the gunnery and support skills, and your ship will be much more efficient. You'll also have many more options to improve your fit with better fitting and support skills, like upgrading a module, drop an excessive tank module for more utility modules and so forth.
-What you're going to train next differs a little bit based on what ship and what weapons you're going to use. For some fitting skills will be prioritized due to the lack of CPU/powergrid of their hull, for others capacitor skills are more important while others can simply go straight for better ship skills and tech two weaponry.
+What you're going to train next differs a little bit based on what ship and what weapons you're going to use. For some fitting skills will be prioritized due to the lack of CPU or powergrid of their hull, for others capacitor skills are more important while others can simply go straight for better ship skills and tech two weaponry.
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-! Fitting skills
+! [[file:icon_cogs.png|32px|link=]] Support skills
-! Support skills
+! [[file:icon_turret.png|32px|link=]] Gunnery skills
-! Gunnery skills
+! [[file:icon_ship.png|32px|link=]] Ship skills
-! Logistics skills
+! [[File:Icon drone bandwith.png|32px|link=]] Drone skills
 |- valign="top" style="background:#222222;"
 | colspan=4 align="center" | Prioritize which skills to train first, some are more important than others, so do your research.
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+| style="padding:8px;" |
 Cybernetics V<small> <ref>'''Cybernetics''' V is required for the top-tier advanced implants, like the +6% CONCORD-implants.</ref></small><br>
 Electronics V<br>
 Engineering V<br>
-Mechanics V
+Mechanics V<br>
-|
-Jury Rigging IV<small> <ref>'''Jury Rigging''' IV is only needed if it is a requirement for your more generic rigs, like energy grid rigs.</ref></small><br>
 Energy Management V<br>
 Energy Systems Operation V<br>
 Shield Upgrades V<br>
-Tactical Shield Manipulation V<br>
-Shield Rigging IV<br>
 Targeting V<br>
 Multitasking III<br>
-Long Range Targeting V
+Long Range Targeting V<br>
+Jury Rigging IV<small> <ref>'''Jury Rigging''' IV is only needed if it is a requirement for your more generic rigs, like energy grid rigs.</ref></small><br>
+Shield Rigging IV<br>
-Electronic Warfare IV<small> <ref>'''Electronic Warfare''' is required for '''Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing'''.</ref></small><br>
+Shield Emission Systems V<br>
-Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing IV<small><ref>'''Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing''' increases your drone control range by an additional 3 km / skillevel.</ref></small><br>
+Energy Emission Systems V<small> <ref name="emission">'''Energy Emission Systems''' is only required if you fly a '''Guardian''' or a '''Basilisk''' with energy transfer modules, the '''Oneiros''' and the '''Scimitar''' does not need this skill.</ref></small><br>
-Drone Interfacing V
+Sensor Linking V<small> <ref name="links">'''Sensor Linking''' is only required if you can fit the '''Tracking Link''' module and only needed at higher skill-levels if you try to fit several faction links at once.</ref></small>
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+| style="padding:8px;" |
 Weapon Upgrades V<br>
 Advanced Weapon Upgrades V<br>
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 Trajectory Analysis V<br>
 Controlled Bursts V<small> <ref>'''Controlled Bursts''' is useful for all hybrids and lasers, but useless for projectiles and missiles as they do not utilize cap.</ref></small><br>
-<weapon> Rigging IV<br>
 Small <racial> Turret V<br>
+Small <racial> Specialization IV<small> <ref name="specs">Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.</ref></small><br>
 Medium <racial> Turret V<br>
+Medium <racial> Specialization IV<small> <ref name="specs">Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.</ref></small><br>
 Large <racial> Turret V<br>
-Small <racial> Specialization IV<small> <ref name="specs">Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.</ref></small><br>
-Medium <racial> Specialization IV<small> <ref name="specs">Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.</ref></small><br>
 Large <racial> Specialization IV<small> <ref name="specs">Turrets have two different specialization skills, for example projectiles have both autocannons and artillery which are split into two different specialization skills.</ref></small><br>
-<racial> Battleship V
+<weapon> Rigging IV
-|
+| style="padding:8px;" |
-Shield Emission Systems V<br>
+<racial> Battleship V<br>
-Energy Emission Systems V<small> <ref name="emission">'''Energy Emission Systems''' is only required if you fly a '''Guardian''' or a '''Basilisk''' with energy transfer modules, the '''Oneiros''' and the '''Scimitar''' does not need this skill.</ref></small><br>
+Logistics V<br>
-Sensor Linking V<small> <ref name="links">'''Sensor Linking''' is only required if you can fit the '''Tracking Link''' module and only needed at higher skill-levels if you try to fit several faction links at once.</ref></small><br>
+| style="padding:8px;" |
+Electronic Warfare IV<small> <ref>'''Electronic Warfare''' is required for '''Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing'''.</ref></small><br>
+Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing IV<small><ref>'''Electronic Warfare Drone Interfacing''' increases your drone control range by an additional 3 km / skillevel.</ref></small><br>
+Drone Interfacing V<br>
+Combat Drone Operation V<br>
+Minmatar Drone Specialization IV<br>
 Repair Drone operation V<small> <ref>'''Repair Drone Operation V''' is needed for tech two shield maintenance bots.</ref></small>
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