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Before mining, it is best advised that players determine what is the most profitable way to mine. This involves determining what asteroids to mine, where to find these asteroids, which ships (and skills) are best suited and optimized to mine and (in most cases) how best to haul the ore to a [[Refining|refining]] station and then to the market. All miners should attempt to maximize their efficiency (and therefore their profitability) which is typically measured by the amount of m3 mined in a cycle of a mining laser. For example Veldspar is the most common and cheapest ore in EVE and has a volume of .1m3, Scordite is the next most common ore but has a volume of .15m3. Therefore, for every cycle, 3/2 more Veldspar is mined than Scordite. To be more profitable Scordite's market price must be in turn 3/2 greater than Veldspar. Since the market is player driven ore and mineral prices are ever changing, hence miners should always check the market for the most efficient ore/mineral to mine for.  
Before mining, it is best advised that players determine what is the most profitable way to mine. This involves determining what asteroids to mine, where to find these asteroids, which ships (and skills) are best suited and optimized to mine and (in most cases) how best to haul the ore to a [[Refining|refining]] station and then to the market. All miners should attempt to maximize their efficiency (and therefore their profitability) which is typically measured by the amount of m3 mined in a cycle of a mining laser. For example Veldspar is the most common and cheapest ore in EVE and has a volume of .1m3, Scordite is the next most common ore but has a volume of .15m3. Therefore, for every cycle, 3/2 more Veldspar is mined than Scordite. To be more profitable Scordite's market price must be in turn 3/2 greater than Veldspar. Since the market is player driven ore and mineral prices are ever changing, hence miners should always check the market for the most efficient ore/mineral to mine for.  


A good site that will help you determine the most profitable ores is [http://eve.grismar.net/ore/ Grismar's Ore Chart]. Look up the market prices of the minerals from your console, and input them in the top row. Hit Apply, and you'll see which ore will give you the most ISK per m3. There are a few sites that will do this for you - [http://gunfleet.org/igb/mining.php This IGB site] and [http://www.boxofmonocles.com/eve_ore this OGB site] are two examples. [[Determine which ore to mine for most profit|This page]] explains how to use the second site. Remember to doublecheck the prices that any automated tools give you - they will often use regional averages to determine mineral prices, and if you plan to sell your goods at a specific station or hub then your priorities might come out differently.  
A good site that will help you determine the most profitable ores is [http://eve.grismar.net/ore/ Grismar's Ore Chart]. Look up the market prices of the minerals from your console, and input them in the top row. Hit Apply, and you'll see which ore will give you the most ISK per m3. There are a few sites that will do this for you - [http://gunfleet.org/igb/mining.php This IGB site] for example. [[Determine which ore to mine for most profit|This page]] explains how to use the second site. Remember to doublecheck the prices that any automated tools give you - they will often use regional averages to determine mineral prices, and if you plan to sell your goods at a specific station or hub then your priorities might come out differently.  


=== Asteroids  ===
=== Asteroids  ===


[[Image:Glow roid grid.jpg|thumb|right|200px]] Asteroid belts can be found in most systems either on the overview window or by right clicking and using the Asteroid Belt section([http://www.ombeve.co.uk/ Ombey's 2D Maps] contains information on the number of asteroid belts in a system). Each asteroid belt has several properties: what asteroids compose the asteroid belt, what asteroids are present and the overall quantity and quality of the asteroids. In empire space there are six asteroids: Veldspar, Scordite, Pyroxeres, Plagioclase, Omber and Kernite. However only a subset of these six asteroids can be found any system depending on which faction controls the region. Low-sec and 0.0 space each have their own respective set of asteroids (which is compounded, so low-sec space contains all the empire space asteroids and 0.0 space contains both empire and low-sec asteroids). Keep in mind that asteroids only spawn after downtime so there will be belts that are devoid of a certain asteroid (or any asteroid in some cases) because other miners have already mined it out.  
[[Image:Glow roid grid.jpg|thumb|right|200px]]  
Asteroid belts can be found in most systems either on the overview window or by right clicking and using the Asteroid Belt section([http://www.ombeve.co.uk/ Ombey's 2D Maps] contains information on the number of asteroid belts in a system). Each asteroid belt has several properties: what asteroids compose the asteroid belt, what asteroids are present and the overall quantity and quality of the asteroids. In empire space there are six asteroids: Veldspar, Scordite, Pyroxeres, Plagioclase, Omber and Kernite. However only a subset of these six asteroids can be found any system depending on which faction controls the region. Low-sec and 0.0 space each have their own respective set of asteroids (which is compounded, so low-sec space contains all the empire space asteroids and 0.0 space contains both empire and low-sec asteroids). Keep in mind that asteroids only spawn after downtime so there will be belts that are devoid of a certain asteroid (or any asteroid in some cases) because other miners have already mined it out.  


Another important factor is the size of the asteroids in a belt: smaller asteroids will require more laser management and cause more wasted laser cycles. Using a survey scanner to scout belts is highly recommended; the difference between a belt freshly respawned after downtime and one that hasn't been touched in a few days is very noticable. Missions also often yield significant asteroid belts. Keep an eye out for those, and you may reap in more ore than a couple of belts combined.  
Another important factor is the size of the asteroids in a belt: smaller asteroids will require more laser management and cause more wasted laser cycles. Using a survey scanner to scout belts is highly recommended; the difference between a belt freshly respawned after downtime and one that hasn't been touched in a few days is very noticable. Missions also often yield significant asteroid belts. Keep an eye out for those, and you may reap in more ore than a couple of belts combined.  
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*{{sk|Spaceship Command|Industrial Command Ships}}: [[Orca]]  
*{{sk|Spaceship Command|Industrial Command Ships}}: [[Orca]]  
*{{sk|Spaceship Command|Capital Industrial Ships}}: [[Rorqual]]
*{{sk|Spaceship Command|Capital Industrial Ships}}: [[Rorqual]]
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== Solo Mining  ==  
== Solo Mining  ==  
 
[[File:Hulk.jpg|thumb|The [[Hulk]].]]
There are several methods commonly used in mining, the most basic only requires one account and can be run by very low skilled players while the most advanced will require multiple players all performing separate tasks in order to be effective.  
There are several methods commonly used in mining, the most basic only requires one account and can be run by very low skilled players while the most advanced will require multiple players all performing separate tasks in order to be effective.  


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It is possible to have two accounts on one computer. (If you have multiple monitors, EVEMover is a useful program to manage multiple EVE instances.) One of these can be used as a maxed-out miner, and the second as a hauler. Even new accounts can do this productively. For example, one account could, in two or three weeks, be set up to use a Caldari Osprey with Miner IIs and some Mining Foreman skill. The other, in the same time, could be set up to fly a Badger Mark II (or similar Industrial) and fit a Miner II as well as haul the stuff back to base whenever it is full. This greatly improves the efficiency of mining (4x Miner IIs help a little, but no downtime for hauling helps a lot).  
It is possible to have two accounts on one computer. (If you have multiple monitors, EVEMover is a useful program to manage multiple EVE instances.) One of these can be used as a maxed-out miner, and the second as a hauler. Even new accounts can do this productively. For example, one account could, in two or three weeks, be set up to use a Caldari Osprey with Miner IIs and some Mining Foreman skill. The other, in the same time, could be set up to fly a Badger Mark II (or similar Industrial) and fit a Miner II as well as haul the stuff back to base whenever it is full. This greatly improves the efficiency of mining (4x Miner IIs help a little, but no downtime for hauling helps a lot).  


Eventually, one account could move toward an Orca and the other toward a Hulk (or Covetor, or Rokh, etc.). Later, the Orca pilot could also learn Freighters (such as the Charon).  
Eventually, one account could move toward an Orca and the other toward a Hulk (or Covetor, etc.). Later, the Orca pilot could also learn Freighters (such as the Charon).  


See the [[Creating an Alt Hauler]] guide for information on creating a hauler alt quickly and easily. Alternatively, see [[Creating an Alt Miner]] for information on how to create an alt to fly the best mining ship in the game quickly and easily.
See the [[Creating an Alt Hauler]] guide for information on creating a hauler alt quickly and easily. Alternatively, see [[Creating an Alt Miner]] for information on how to create an alt to fly the best mining ship in the game quickly and easily.


== Cooperative Mining  ==
== Cooperative Mining  ==
 
[[File:Orca.jpg|thumb|The [[Orca]].]]
Of the professions in Eve, mining and production are most impacted by the player’s efficiency. For miners, it’s all about mining. Time spent hauling, killing rats, moving cans or dealing with ore thieves, can flippers and other flavors of griefers is time not spent making little rocks out of big ‘roids. Anything that can be done to eliminate or minimize the impact of all of those other factors means more little rocks in the hold, which means a fatter wallet.  
Of the professions in Eve, mining and production are most impacted by the player’s efficiency. For miners, it’s all about mining. Time spent hauling, killing rats, moving cans or dealing with ore thieves, can flippers and other flavors of griefers is time not spent making little rocks out of big ‘roids. Anything that can be done to eliminate or minimize the impact of all of those other factors means more little rocks in the hold, which means a fatter wallet.  


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*[[Gas Cloud Mining]]  
*[[Gas Cloud Mining]]  
*[[Refining]]  
*[[Refining]]  
*[http://www.eve-ivy.com/oog/industry E-UNI's official helpful links collection]
*[[Creating an Alt Miner]]  
*[[Creating an Alt Miner]]  
*[[Creating an Alt Hauler]]  
*[[Creating an Alt Hauler]]  
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*[[Scrapyard's Mining Op Worksheet]]  
*[[Scrapyard's Mining Op Worksheet]]  
*[[Web Resources for Miners]]
*[[Web Resources for Miners]]
*[[Amarr Mining Campus]]
*[[Orca Guide]]
==External links==
*[http://www.eve-ivy.com/oog/industry E-UNI's official helpful links collection]
*[http://www.tetrr.com/fleetlogger Mining-Fleet-Logger]
*[http://www.tetrr.com/fleetlogger Mining-Fleet-Logger]
*[http://www.tetrr.com/kalkulator/ EvE BPO/BPC Calc]
*[http://www.tetrr.com/kalkulator/ EvE BPO/BPC Calc]
*[https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/ore/ Fuzzworks ore table]
*[http://ore.cerlestes.de/index.html Cerlestes ore table]
*[http://eve-mining.com/ eve-mining.com - includes Mining Timer Optimizer]
*[http://eve.grismar.net/ore/ Grismar - ore chart]
*[http://greedygoblin.blogspot.com/p/why-was-i-ganked.html greedygoblin - mining safety tips from a ganker]
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