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==Introduction==
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{{Deprecated|[[Ship Tree]]. Certificates were a way to identify which skills to train. At least for flying spaceships now you can use the [[Ship Tree]]. There are levels up to 5 to show your mastery of the ship and you can see which skills you should train to increase the level.}}
It seems to be a more or less well accepted fact that the certificate system in EvE Online is less than entirely useful. Articles tend to stress relatively complicated ways of approaching what skills to train. Long descritptions of the skills and how they interrelate are quite important to undersand, but for the beginning pilot, they tend to overwhelm.
 
  
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{{Hatnote|This page is about the old pre-Rubicon Certificates - these do not exist anymore since the Rubicon expansion.}}
  
The game has a system that can help simplify the decision as to what skills you train by allowing you to focus not on the individual skills so much as the underlying foundations of what pilots end up doing in New Eden.
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It seems to be a more or less well accepted fact that the certificate system in EVE Online is less than entirely useful as it currently stands. Articles tend to stress relatively complicated ways of approaching what skills to train. Long descriptions of the skills and how they interrelate are quite important to understand, but for the beginning pilot, they tend to overwhelm.  
  
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The game has a system that can help simplify the decision as to what skills you train by allowing you to focus not on the individual skills so much as the underlying foundations of what pilots end up doing in New Eden. This is the certificate system.
  
This article explains and details the certificate system, explains how to use it to plan your training, and breifly argues why you should use the certificate sywtem, at least in the beginning.
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But this too can be overwhelming to the new pilot. Because the game does not demand a certain progression or dictate roles and goals, the pilot is more or less left to her own devices. When she looks at the certificates, to choose wisely, she needs to know more or less what she wants to be when she grows up.  
  
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This article explains and details the certificate system, explains how to use it to plan your training, and briefly argues why you should use the certificate system, at least in the beginning.
  
==Careers v. Professions v. Jobs/Activities==
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== The Certificates  ==
A career and a profession are clearly not the same thing and both of these are different than a job. One way to look at it is to see professions as skill sets and careers as the sets of activities you perform with those skill sets. Jobs would then be specific activities themselves. A real world example is the distinctions between lawyer, public administration, and running a  Being a lawyer is being a member of a profession, but administering non-profit organisations is a career which people from many different professions can pursue.
 
  
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Certificates are simply credentials that are assigned to you by CONCORD (and a few other organisations) when you have trained a specific number of skills at specific skill levels. Think of certificates just like certificates in IT training, or diplomas and degrees granted by universities and colleges. The skills gathered together represent, to some extent, a competence in some area, such as in the use of missiles or more general areas like 'prospecting.'
  
The certificate system, in my view, should be seen as the professions side of this picture, while the detailed understanding of the skills trees should be seen as the career side. Another useful metaphor might be the distinction between law school (where you learn what the law is) and the training you get in a law form (where you learn how to practice the law).
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The certificates are grouped into eleven categories. Most certificates have four grades: basic, standard, improved, elite. They can usefully be organised into supergroups, like so:
  
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*Professions
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**Starter Professions
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**Business and Industry
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**Harvesting
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**Leadership
  
==Careers==
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*Flight Skills
EVE Careers Guide
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**Core
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**Defence
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**Drones
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**Electronic Warfare
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**Gunnery
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**Missiles
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**Navigation
  
http://www.eveonline.com/careerguide/
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What you see here is a fairly clear division between the skill sets for flying spacecraft and skill sets concerned with doing specific tasks with those spacecraft. Flight skills everyone needs at one point or another, but the professional skills are all about what you do with or without your spacecraft.  
  
==Getting Started in the Professions==
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At this point, it would be instructive for you to pop into the game and just look over the certificates that are available (and the ones youmight already have), but going to your [[NeoCom|NeoCom]] and clicking Neocom > Character Sheet > Certificates > Certificates tab and then click on the Certificate Planner. Take a long look around.  
The certificate system allows you to train into six 'starter' professions in three broad classes: business, industry, and the military.
 
  
==The 'Starter' Professions==
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=== Flight Skills Certificates  ===
  
It is a misnomer to call these professions 'starter'. A better word would be 'main' or 'core'. There are quite a few skill sets we should be calling 'professions' than these.  
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First let's look at the flight skills. At this point, even the neophyte pilot is more or less familiar with these terms and what they could possibly mean for them. Core skills are required to underpin the other skills, while gunnery and missile skills increase the usefulness of turrets and missiles. For example, the Gunnery class certificates at the basic level include
  
Each of the starter professions have racial variants, but only the racial frigate skill is different between them. Each certificate has four levels/grades: basic, standard, improved, elite
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*Battleship Energy Turrets
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*Battleship Hybrid Turrets
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*Battleship Projectile Turrets
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*Cruiser Energy Turrets
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*Cruiser Hybrid Turrets
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*Cruiser Projectile Turrets
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*Frigate Energy Turrets
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*Frigate Hybrid Turrets
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*Frigate Projectile Turrets
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*Turret Control
  
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<u>Turret Control - Basic</u> requires the following skills:
  
*[[ Business - Entrepreneur]]
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*Gunnery III
*[[ Business - Executive Commander]]
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*Sharpshooter I
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*Rapid Firing II
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*Motion Prediction II
  
*[[ Industry - Engineer]]
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This certificate is supposed to represent 'a basic level of competence in handling all kinds of turreted weapons.' If we look at the required skills, we see what a basic understanding of turret control should be comprised of. Almost all of the certificates are like this. They take a group of skills that generally go together (with respect to game mechanics) and then label those skills with a certificate.
*[[ Industry - Prospector]]
 
  
*[[ Military - Soldier]]
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Core certificates are gathered in five sub-categories and one 'master' category:
*[[ Military - Special Forces]]
 
  
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<u>Core Competency</u>
  
==Advanced Professions==
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*Core Capacitor
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*Core Fitting
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*Core Integrity
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*Core Navigation
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*Core Targeting
  
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Again, we can see how the sub-categories form the most fundamental skills associated with piloting a spacecraft. The Core Competency certificate gathers the other five together. For example, the Core Competency - Basic certificate requires all five of the other competency certificates at the basic level. As for the competence groups, the Core Capacitor - Basic certificate, for example, requires:
  
==Certificates (by group)==
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*Energy Systems Operation III (which provides a 5% reduction in capacitor recharge time per skill level)  
===Business and Industry===
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*Energy Management III (which provides a 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per skill level)
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*Energy Grid Upgrades II (which provides a 5% reduction in CPU needs of modules requiring Energy Grid Upgrdes per skill level)
  
*Business Mogul - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
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Clearly, these skills are going to be invaluable for piloting a spacecraft: cap is life.
*Business Tycoon - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Field Technician - [[Basic]] Standard [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Production Intern - Basic [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Production Manager - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Research Manager - [[Basic]] [[Standard]] [[Improved]] [[Elite]]
 
*Technical Specialist - Basic [[Standard]] Improved [[Elite]]
 
  
Core
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The certificates I have called 'Flight Skills Certificates' are those you should be particularly interested in when improving for and planning future ships and fittings. Go to your Character Sheet, click on the Certificates tab and read up. Nothing is going to substitute for familiarity with the specific requirements of the certificate themselves and the skills that fall under them. Again, be aware that a certificate has no further function than guidance. Train the skills you need for a particular ship or fitting, but do not slavishly train for a certificate without knowing why you are training that particular skill to that particular level. With that in mind, let's take a look at the certificates that are recommended for the Drake.
Basic
 
Core Capacitor - Basic
 
Core Competency - Basic
 
Core Fitting - Basic
 
Core Integrity - Basic
 
Core Navigation - Basic
 
Core Targeting - Basic
 
  
Standard
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The required skills for the Drake are Caldari Cruiser III and Battlecrusiers II. But it is recommended that you obtain these three certificates:
Core Capacitor - Standard
 
Core Competency - Standard
 
Core Fitting - Standard
 
Core Integrity - Standard
 
Core Navigation - Standard
 
Core Targeting - Standard
 
  
Improved
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*Core Competency Standard
Core Fitting - Improved
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*Passive Shield Tanking Standard
Core Navigation - Improved
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*Cruiser Launcher Control Standard
  
Elite
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Now, if you are a relatively new pilot, getting into a Drake seems pretty simple. But, as you probably know by now, being able to fly a ship is not the same thing as being able to fly it ''well''. Training Caldari Cruiser requires Caldari Frigate IV and Battlecruisers requires Spaceship Command IV. So, what do the three certificates just above get you?
Core Capacitor - Elite
 
Core Competency - Elite
 
Core Fitting - Elite
 
Core Integrity - Elite
 
Core Navigation - Elite
 
Core Targeting - Elite
 
  
Defence
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Well, to get these certificates you will need to have trained the following:
Basic
 
Active Shield Tanking - Basic
 
Armor Reinforcement - Basic
 
Armor Tanking - Basic
 
Logistics Chief - Basic
 
Passive Shield Tanking - Basic
 
Shield Reinforcement - Basic
 
  
Standard
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*Energy Systems Operation V
Active Shield Tanking - Standard
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*Energy Management IV
Armor Reinforcement - Standard
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*Energy Grid Upgrades IV
Armor Tanking - Standard
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*Electronics V
Logistics Chief - Standard
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*Electronics Upgrades V
Passive Shield Tanking - Standard
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*Weapon Upgrades IV
Shield Reinforcement - Standard
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*Long Range Targeting IV
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*Signature Analysis IV
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*Target Management V
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*Advanced Target Management I
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*Navigation IV
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*Evasive Maneuvering III
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*Warp Drive Operation III
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*Mechanics IV
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*Hull Upgrades IV
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*Shield Management V
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*Shield Operation V
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*Shield Upgrades IV
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*Tactical Shield Manipulation II
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*Thermal Shield Compensation III
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*EM Shield Compensation III
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*Kinetic Shield Compensation III
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*Explosive Shield Compensation III
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*Missile Launcher Operation V
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*Missile Bombardment IV
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*Target Navigation Prediction IV
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*Rapid Launch IV
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*Missile Projection II
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*Light Missiles III
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*Heavy Missiles IV
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*Assault Missiles IV
  
Improved
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This is not a trivial list. Depending upon your implants and neural mapping, this might take more than three months of training. If you follow the certificates blindly, you are liable to waste a lot of time training skills you don't need or, even worse, training skills you don't really need ''yet''. The certificates do not prioritize skills for you. That is something you are going to have to do for yourself. Read about each skill, find out how it helps you, and then prioritize them. You will be trading these skills off against profession skills as well.
Active Shield Tanking - Improved
 
Armor Tanking - Improved
 
Passive Shield Tanking - Improved
 
  
Elite
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=== Professional Certificates  ===
Active Shield Tanking - Elite
 
Armor Reinforcement - Elite
 
Armor Tanking - Elite
 
Hull Tanking - Elite
 
Logistics Chief - Elite
 
Passive Shield Tanking - Elite
 
Shield Reinforcement - Elite
 
  
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==== Careers v. Professions v. Occupations  ====
  
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A career and a profession are clearly not the same thing and both of these are different than an occupation. One way to look at it is to see professions as skill sets and careers as the sets of activities you perform with those skill sets. Occupations would then be specific activities themselves. A real world example is the distinctions between a lawyer, public administration, and running a private organization. Being a lawyer is being a member of a profession, but administering private organizations is a career which people from many different professions can pursue.
  
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The certificate system can be seen as a helper on the professions side of this picture, while the detailed understanding of the skills trees should be seen as the career side. Some occupations may require specific skills that either fall out of the scope of a certificate or fall under what seems to be an entirely unrelated certificate. A useful metaphor might be the distinction between law school (where you learn what the law is) and the training you get in a law firm (where you learn how to practice the law).
  
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The EVE Careers Guide has an interesting breakdown of the various career paths available in EVE. Not only are the normal industrial and military careers considered, but discussions of role playing careers and metagame[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metagaming] play.
  
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These are some of the basic occupations that you can get into very early and very easily in your career:
  
Drones
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*Courier
Basic
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*Miner
Combat Drone Control - Basic
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*Rat Hunter
Drone Control - Basic
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*Mission Runner
Heavy Drone Control - Basic
 
Specialist Drone Operator - Basic
 
  
Standard
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The starter professions can be seen as the core around which Business and Industry, Harvesting, and Leadership certificates revolve. Much of what is required to complete these higher level certificates rest in the starter professions.
Combat Drone Control - Standard
 
Drone Control - Standard
 
Heavy Drone Control - Standard
 
Specialist Drone Operator - Standard
 
  
Improved
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==== The 'Starter' Professions  ====
Combat Drone Control - Improved
 
Drone Control - Improved
 
Heavy Drone Control - Improved
 
  
Elite
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There are three broad classes of starter profession: business, industry, and the military (the military has two because it is, you know, special). I think 'starter' is a misnomer. A better word would be 'main' or 'core'. There are quite a few more skill sets we should be calling 'professions' than these. Each of the starter professions have racial variants, primarily because of the racial frigate skill but also because some racial ships/skills are tuned for different weapons and defensive systems.
Combat Drone Control - Elite
 
Drone Control - Elite
 
Elite Drone Operator - Elite
 
Heavy Drone Control - Elite
 
Specialist Drone Operator - Elite
 
  
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<u>Business - Entrepreneur</u>
  
Electronic Warfare
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*Racial Frigate II
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*Trade V
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*Retail IV
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*Daytrading IV
  
Basic
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These skills all revolve around trading and market interaction.<br> <u>Business - Executive Commander</u>
Cloak Operator - Basic
 
ECM Operator - Basic
 
EWAR Operator - Basic
 
Propulsion Jammer Operator - Basic
 
Sensor Dampener Operator - Basic
 
Target Painter Operator - Basic
 
Target Disruptor Operator - Basic
 
  
Standard
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*Racial Frigate II
Cloak Operator - Standard
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*Leadership V
ECM Operator - Standard
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*Shield Operation IV
EWAR Operator - Standard
 
Interdiction Maneuvers Standard
 
Propulsion Jammer Operator - Standard
 
Sensor Dampener Operator - Standard
 
Target Painter Operator - Standard
 
Target Disruptor Operator - Standard
 
Improved
 
Interdiction Maneuvers Improved
 
  
Elite
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These skills start you off along the path to command fleets of ships.
Cloak Operator - Elite
 
ECM Operator - Elite
 
EWAR Operator - Elite
 
Propulsion Jammer Operator - Elite
 
Sensor Dampener Operator - Elite
 
Target Painter Operator - Elite
 
Target Disruptor Operator - Elite
 
  
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<br> <u>Military - Soldier (Caldari)</u>
  
Gunnery
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*Caldari Frigate III
Basic
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*Missile Operation IV
Battleship Energy Turretss - Basic
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*Standard Missiles III
Battleship Hybrid Turrets - Basic
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*Shield Operation III
Battleship Projectile Turrets - Basic
 
Cruiser Energy Turrets - Basic
 
Cruiser Hybrid Turrets - Basic
 
Cruiser Projectile Turrets - Basic
 
Frigate Energy Turrets - Basic
 
Frigate Hybrid Turrets - Basic
 
Frigate Projectile Turrets - Basic
 
Turret Control - Basic
 
  
Standard
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These are basic skills that any military pilot should know.
Battleship Advanced Artillery Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Beam Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Blaster Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Pulse Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Rail Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Energy Turretss - Standard
 
Battleship Hybrid Turrets - Standard
 
Battleship Projectile Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Artillery Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Beam Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Blaster Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Pulse Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Rail Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Energy Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Hybrid Turrets - Standard
 
Cruiser Projectile Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Artillery Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Beam Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Blaster Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Pulse Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Rail Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Energy Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Hybrid Turrets - Standard
 
Frigate Projectile Turrets - Standard
 
Turret Control - Standard
 
  
Improved
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<br> <u>Military - Special Forces (Caldari)</u>
Turret Control - Improved
 
  
Elite
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*Caldari Frigate IV
Battleship Advanced Artillery Turrets - Elite
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*Shield Operation III
Battleship Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Elite
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*Electronic Warfare II
Battleship Advanced Beam Turrets - Elite
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*Missile Bombardment V
Battleship Advanced Blaster Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Pulse Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Rail Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Energy Turretss - Elite
 
Battleship Hybrid Turrets - Elite
 
Battleship Projectile Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Artillery Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Beam Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Blaster Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Pulse Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Rail Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Energy Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Hybrid Turrets - Elite
 
Cruiser Projectile Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Artillery Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Autocannon Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Beam Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Blaster Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Pulse Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Rail Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Energy Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Hybrid Turrets - Elite
 
Frigate Projectile Turrets - Elite
 
Turret Control - Elite
 
  
Harvesting
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These skills are more specialised and aim for some of the more esoteric military roles later on.
Basic
 
Common Ore Refiner - Basic
 
Rare Ore Refiner - Basic
 
Refinery Foreman - Basic
 
Resource Harvester - Basic
 
  
Standard
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<br> <u>Industry - Engineer</u>
Common Ore Refiner - Standard
 
Ice Specialist - Standard
 
Mercoxit Specialist - Standard
 
Rare Ore Refiner - Standard
 
Refinery Foreman - Standard
 
Resource Harvester - Standard
 
  
Improved
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*Racial Frigate I
Common Ore Refiner - Improved
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*Industry III
Ice Specialist - Improved
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*Mass Production I
Mercoxit Specialist - Improved
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*Laboratory Operation V
Rare Ore Refiner - Improved
 
Refinery Foreman - Improved
 
Resource Harvester - Improved
 
  
Elite
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These skills aim at very basic production and research roles.
Common Ore Refiner - Elite
 
Ice Specialist - Elite
 
Mercoxit Specialist - Elite
 
Rare Ore Refiner - Elite
 
Refinery Foreman - Elite
 
Resource Harvester - Elite
 
  
Leadership
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<br> <u>Industry - Prospector</u>
Basic
 
Battlespace Technician - Basic
 
Harvesting Comptroller - Basic
 
Tactical Commander - Basic
 
Unit Leader - Basic
 
  
Standard
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*Racial Frigate I (allows you to fly a Bantam, the Caldari mining frigate)
Armored Warfare Chief - Standard
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*Industry III (allows for basic operation of factories)
Battlespace Technician - Standard
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*Refining V (allows for use of refineries and gives a 2% reduction in refinery waster per skill level)
Fleet Co-ordinator - Standard
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*Mining V (skill at using mining lasers and gives a 5% bonus to mining turret yield per skill level)
Harvesting Comptroller - Standard
 
Information Warfare Chief - Standard
 
Siege Warfare Chief - Standard
 
Skirmish Warfare Chief - Standard
 
Tactical Commander - Standard
 
Unit Leader - Standard
 
  
Improved
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Clearly, if you are going to go down the mining profession path, these are the core skills required.
Armored Warfare Chief - Improved
 
Battlespace Technician - Improved
 
Harvesting Comptroller - Improved
 
Information Warfare Chief - Improved
 
Siege Warfare Chief - Improved
 
Skirmish Warfare Chief - Improved
 
Tactical Commander - Improved
 
  
Elite
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==== Business and Industry  ====
Armored Warfare Chief - Elite
 
Battlespace Technician - Elite
 
Fleet Co-ordinator - Elite
 
Harvesting Comptroller - Elite
 
Information Warfare Chief - Elite
 
Siege Warfare Chief - Elite
 
Skirmish Warfare Chief - Elite
 
Tactical Commander - Elite
 
Unit Leader - Elite
 
  
Missiles
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<u>Business Mogul</u>
Basic
 
Missile Control - Basic
 
Remote Demolitions - Basic
 
Frigate Launcher Control - Basic
 
Cruiser Launcher Control - Basic
 
Battleship Launcher Control - Basic
 
  
Standard
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*Trade II
Missile Control - Standard
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*Retail II
Frigate Launch Control - Standard
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*Broker Relations II
Frigate Advanced Rocket Launchers - Standard
 
Frigate Advanced Standard Launchers - Standard
 
Cruiser Launch Control - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Heavy Assault Launchers - Standard
 
Cruiser Advanced Heavy Launchers - Standard
 
Battleship Launcher Control - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Cruise Launchers - Standard
 
Battleship Advanced Siege Launchers - Standard
 
Improved
 
Missile Control - Improved
 
  
Elite
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<br>
Missile Control - Elite
 
Frigate Launch Control - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Rocket Launchers - Elite
 
Frigate Advanced Standard Launchers - Elite
 
Cruiser Launch Control - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Heavy Assault Launchers - Elite
 
Cruiser Advanced Heavy Launchers - Elite
 
Battleship Launcher Control - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Cruise Launchers - Elite
 
Battleship Advanced Siege Launchers - Elite
 
  
Navigation
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<u>Business Tycoon</u>
Basic
 
Cartographer - Basic
 
High-Velocity Helmsman - Basic
 
Wormhole Generation - Basic
 
  
Standard
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*Procurement II
Cartographer - Standard
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*Daytrading II
High-Velocity Helmsman - Standard
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*Wholesale II
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*Accounting II
  
Improved
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<br>
High-Velocity Helmsman - Improved
 
  
Elite
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<u>Field Technician</u>
Cartographer - Elite
 
High-Velocity Helmsman - Elite
 
  
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*Salvaging I
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*Mechanic III
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*Survey III
  
==Supplementary Reading==
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<br>
Basic Information
 
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Certificates
 
  
DevBlog Chat
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<u>Production Manager</u>
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=1678
 
  
EVEMon
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*Industry III
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1467427
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*Mass Production III
Mac Eve Tools
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*Production Efficiency III
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10200
 
  
ISK: the guide
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<br>
http://www.isktheguide.com/
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<u>Research Manager</u>
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*Research I
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*Laboratory Operation I
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*Metallurgy I
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==== Harvesting  ====
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<u>Common Ore Refiner</u>
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*Kernite Processing III
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*Omber Processing III
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*Pyroxeres Processing III
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*Veldspar Processing III
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*Plagioclase Processing III
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*Scordite Processing III
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<br>
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<u>Rare Ore Refiner</u>
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*Crokite Processing III
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*Dark Ochre Processing III
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*Gneiss Processing III
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*Hedbergite Processing IV
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*Jaspet Processing IV
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*Hemorphiote Processing IV
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<br>
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<u>Refinery Foreman</u>
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*Refining III
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<br>
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<u>Resource Harvester</u>
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*Mining IV
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<br>
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These two certificates start at the standard level. They represent relatively advanced skill sets.
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<u>Ice Specialist</u>
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*Ice Harvesting I
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*Astrogeology III
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*Mining V
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*Mining Upgrades II
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<br>
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<u>Mercoxit Specialist</u>
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*Deep Core Mining I
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*Astrogeology II
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*Resource Harvester Certificate - Standard
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==== Leadership  ====
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There are quite a few leadership certificates and some of them require more basic leadership certificates. The general idea is that the more advanced leadership certificates are more specialised.
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<u>Battlespace Technician</u>
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*Warfare Link Spcialist I
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*Battlecruisers II
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<br>
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<u>Harvesting Comptroller</u>
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*Tactical Commander Certificate - Basic
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*Mining Foreman V<br>
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<br>
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<u>Tactical Commander</u>
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*Leadership V<br>
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<br>
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<u>Unit Leader</u>
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*Tactical Commander V
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*Skirmish Warfare II
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*Armored Warfare II
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*Siege Warfare II
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*Information Warfare II
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At the standard level, you have certificates that specialise in specific kinds of warfare (armoured, information, and siege).
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=== Planning with Certificates  ===
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In the same way that one plans an academic or professional career based on goals, the pilot should plan one's skill training. Using certificates helps the process by laying out in relatively perspicuous form, just what you need to train to be able to do what you wish to do. I recommend using some form of skill training third party tools like [http://evemon.battleclinic.com, EVEMon], [https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1096971, Mac Eve Tools], or EVEUniverse.
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The idea is not to follow whatever these certificates tell you to train (unless your goal is to just collect certificates), but to use them in order to get a working template for fine tuning.
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As an example, you may have done the tutorials and are ready to go into the glamorous profession of mining. Looking at what we have said above it is clear that the core competencies are going to be important so that we don't die in the harsh cold of space and so that we can get the spacecraft to the rocks in one piece. Furthermore, the starter profession Prospector deals with mining, so that will be a good one to pursue.
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Being conservative, we look to the requirements for Core Competency - Basic and Amarr Industry - Prospector, our current skills, and come up with something like this:
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[[Image:Certplanexample.png]]
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This is a shot of Mac Eve Tools after I loaded our two certificates into the planner. I have chosen to do the Prospector certificate first because I'll be mining while these skills accumulate, so I might as well increase the yields I get while I skill the certificate. Your thinking might be different here; go with it. Feel free to move the skills around as you see fit. The program will re-arrange dependencies for you. For instance, you might want to wait to put Mining V into the skill queue until just before that long weekend you'll be off surfing, hang gliding, or wrestling alligators. Being away from the game is a good time for long training times. So, you might decide to skill to Mining IV, then do some of the energy and signature stuff before the Friday that you leave.
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With some of the more advanced certificates, you might feel that putting that 14 day skill into your queue can wait for a while as you gather some of the other skills you'll need to get in to that Battlecruiser you've always wanted. That's perfectly good as well, as long as you don't need that particular skill to train the others. This is where the skill planning tools really help out.
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== Advanced Careers  ==
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As has been said, these six core careers should be thought of as root professions, like 'lawyer' rather than manager. But there are quite a few careers that are more highly specialised (or take longer to make them more than marginally worth the time) and require more skill training. We'll see just a few of these as introduction to what you might do once you are well on your way in training into a profession.
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*Scientific Careers
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**Archaeologist
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**Hacker
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**Cartographer<br>
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*Military
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**Scout
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**EWAR Specialist
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**Tackler
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**Covert Ops Specialist
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**Sniper
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**Fleet Commander<br>
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*Corporation Management
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**Chief Executive Officer
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**Accountant
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**Instructor/Mentor<br>
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*Industry/Engineering
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**T2 Manufacturer
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**Research Engineer
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**Hauler
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== Supplementary Reading  ==
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[https://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1467427| EVEMon - Windows character progression program]
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[https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10200| Mac Eve Tools - MacOS X character progression application]
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[http://www.isktheguide.com| ISK: the guide]
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== Authors  ==
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[[User:Diane yanumano]]
  
[[Category:Certficates]]
 
[[Category:Getting Started]]
 
 
[[Category:Skills]]
 
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Latest revision as of 14:04, 30 December 2021

This article is deprecated and no longer in use.
Please visit Ship Tree. Certificates were a way to identify which skills to train. At least for flying spaceships now you can use the Ship Tree. There are levels up to 5 to show your mastery of the ship and you can see which skills you should train to increase the level. for current info.
This page is about the old pre-Rubicon Certificates - these do not exist anymore since the Rubicon expansion.

It seems to be a more or less well accepted fact that the certificate system in EVE Online is less than entirely useful as it currently stands. Articles tend to stress relatively complicated ways of approaching what skills to train. Long descriptions of the skills and how they interrelate are quite important to understand, but for the beginning pilot, they tend to overwhelm.

The game has a system that can help simplify the decision as to what skills you train by allowing you to focus not on the individual skills so much as the underlying foundations of what pilots end up doing in New Eden. This is the certificate system.

But this too can be overwhelming to the new pilot. Because the game does not demand a certain progression or dictate roles and goals, the pilot is more or less left to her own devices. When she looks at the certificates, to choose wisely, she needs to know more or less what she wants to be when she grows up.

This article explains and details the certificate system, explains how to use it to plan your training, and briefly argues why you should use the certificate system, at least in the beginning.

The Certificates

Certificates are simply credentials that are assigned to you by CONCORD (and a few other organisations) when you have trained a specific number of skills at specific skill levels. Think of certificates just like certificates in IT training, or diplomas and degrees granted by universities and colleges. The skills gathered together represent, to some extent, a competence in some area, such as in the use of missiles or more general areas like 'prospecting.'

The certificates are grouped into eleven categories. Most certificates have four grades: basic, standard, improved, elite. They can usefully be organised into supergroups, like so:

  • Professions
    • Starter Professions
    • Business and Industry
    • Harvesting
    • Leadership
  • Flight Skills
    • Core
    • Defence
    • Drones
    • Electronic Warfare
    • Gunnery
    • Missiles
    • Navigation

What you see here is a fairly clear division between the skill sets for flying spacecraft and skill sets concerned with doing specific tasks with those spacecraft. Flight skills everyone needs at one point or another, but the professional skills are all about what you do with or without your spacecraft.

At this point, it would be instructive for you to pop into the game and just look over the certificates that are available (and the ones youmight already have), but going to your NeoCom and clicking Neocom > Character Sheet > Certificates > Certificates tab and then click on the Certificate Planner. Take a long look around.

Flight Skills Certificates

First let's look at the flight skills. At this point, even the neophyte pilot is more or less familiar with these terms and what they could possibly mean for them. Core skills are required to underpin the other skills, while gunnery and missile skills increase the usefulness of turrets and missiles. For example, the Gunnery class certificates at the basic level include

  • Battleship Energy Turrets
  • Battleship Hybrid Turrets
  • Battleship Projectile Turrets
  • Cruiser Energy Turrets
  • Cruiser Hybrid Turrets
  • Cruiser Projectile Turrets
  • Frigate Energy Turrets
  • Frigate Hybrid Turrets
  • Frigate Projectile Turrets
  • Turret Control

Turret Control - Basic requires the following skills:

  • Gunnery III
  • Sharpshooter I
  • Rapid Firing II
  • Motion Prediction II

This certificate is supposed to represent 'a basic level of competence in handling all kinds of turreted weapons.' If we look at the required skills, we see what a basic understanding of turret control should be comprised of. Almost all of the certificates are like this. They take a group of skills that generally go together (with respect to game mechanics) and then label those skills with a certificate.

Core certificates are gathered in five sub-categories and one 'master' category:

Core Competency

  • Core Capacitor
  • Core Fitting
  • Core Integrity
  • Core Navigation
  • Core Targeting

Again, we can see how the sub-categories form the most fundamental skills associated with piloting a spacecraft. The Core Competency certificate gathers the other five together. For example, the Core Competency - Basic certificate requires all five of the other competency certificates at the basic level. As for the competence groups, the Core Capacitor - Basic certificate, for example, requires:

  • Energy Systems Operation III (which provides a 5% reduction in capacitor recharge time per skill level)
  • Energy Management III (which provides a 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per skill level)
  • Energy Grid Upgrades II (which provides a 5% reduction in CPU needs of modules requiring Energy Grid Upgrdes per skill level)

Clearly, these skills are going to be invaluable for piloting a spacecraft: cap is life.

The certificates I have called 'Flight Skills Certificates' are those you should be particularly interested in when improving for and planning future ships and fittings. Go to your Character Sheet, click on the Certificates tab and read up. Nothing is going to substitute for familiarity with the specific requirements of the certificate themselves and the skills that fall under them. Again, be aware that a certificate has no further function than guidance. Train the skills you need for a particular ship or fitting, but do not slavishly train for a certificate without knowing why you are training that particular skill to that particular level. With that in mind, let's take a look at the certificates that are recommended for the Drake.

The required skills for the Drake are Caldari Cruiser III and Battlecrusiers II. But it is recommended that you obtain these three certificates:

  • Core Competency Standard
  • Passive Shield Tanking Standard
  • Cruiser Launcher Control Standard

Now, if you are a relatively new pilot, getting into a Drake seems pretty simple. But, as you probably know by now, being able to fly a ship is not the same thing as being able to fly it well. Training Caldari Cruiser requires Caldari Frigate IV and Battlecruisers requires Spaceship Command IV. So, what do the three certificates just above get you?

Well, to get these certificates you will need to have trained the following:

  • Energy Systems Operation V
  • Energy Management IV
  • Energy Grid Upgrades IV
  • Electronics V
  • Electronics Upgrades V
  • Weapon Upgrades IV
  • Long Range Targeting IV
  • Signature Analysis IV
  • Target Management V
  • Advanced Target Management I
  • Navigation IV
  • Evasive Maneuvering III
  • Warp Drive Operation III
  • Mechanics IV
  • Hull Upgrades IV
  • Shield Management V
  • Shield Operation V
  • Shield Upgrades IV
  • Tactical Shield Manipulation II
  • Thermal Shield Compensation III
  • EM Shield Compensation III
  • Kinetic Shield Compensation III
  • Explosive Shield Compensation III
  • Missile Launcher Operation V
  • Missile Bombardment IV
  • Target Navigation Prediction IV
  • Rapid Launch IV
  • Missile Projection II
  • Light Missiles III
  • Heavy Missiles IV
  • Assault Missiles IV

This is not a trivial list. Depending upon your implants and neural mapping, this might take more than three months of training. If you follow the certificates blindly, you are liable to waste a lot of time training skills you don't need or, even worse, training skills you don't really need yet. The certificates do not prioritize skills for you. That is something you are going to have to do for yourself. Read about each skill, find out how it helps you, and then prioritize them. You will be trading these skills off against profession skills as well.

Professional Certificates

Careers v. Professions v. Occupations

A career and a profession are clearly not the same thing and both of these are different than an occupation. One way to look at it is to see professions as skill sets and careers as the sets of activities you perform with those skill sets. Occupations would then be specific activities themselves. A real world example is the distinctions between a lawyer, public administration, and running a private organization. Being a lawyer is being a member of a profession, but administering private organizations is a career which people from many different professions can pursue.

The certificate system can be seen as a helper on the professions side of this picture, while the detailed understanding of the skills trees should be seen as the career side. Some occupations may require specific skills that either fall out of the scope of a certificate or fall under what seems to be an entirely unrelated certificate. A useful metaphor might be the distinction between law school (where you learn what the law is) and the training you get in a law firm (where you learn how to practice the law).

The EVE Careers Guide has an interesting breakdown of the various career paths available in EVE. Not only are the normal industrial and military careers considered, but discussions of role playing careers and metagame[1] play.

These are some of the basic occupations that you can get into very early and very easily in your career:

  • Courier
  • Miner
  • Rat Hunter
  • Mission Runner

The starter professions can be seen as the core around which Business and Industry, Harvesting, and Leadership certificates revolve. Much of what is required to complete these higher level certificates rest in the starter professions.

The 'Starter' Professions

There are three broad classes of starter profession: business, industry, and the military (the military has two because it is, you know, special). I think 'starter' is a misnomer. A better word would be 'main' or 'core'. There are quite a few more skill sets we should be calling 'professions' than these. Each of the starter professions have racial variants, primarily because of the racial frigate skill but also because some racial ships/skills are tuned for different weapons and defensive systems.

Business - Entrepreneur

  • Racial Frigate II
  • Trade V
  • Retail IV
  • Daytrading IV

These skills all revolve around trading and market interaction.
Business - Executive Commander

  • Racial Frigate II
  • Leadership V
  • Shield Operation IV

These skills start you off along the path to command fleets of ships.


Military - Soldier (Caldari)

  • Caldari Frigate III
  • Missile Operation IV
  • Standard Missiles III
  • Shield Operation III

These are basic skills that any military pilot should know.


Military - Special Forces (Caldari)

  • Caldari Frigate IV
  • Shield Operation III
  • Electronic Warfare II
  • Missile Bombardment V

These skills are more specialised and aim for some of the more esoteric military roles later on.


Industry - Engineer

  • Racial Frigate I
  • Industry III
  • Mass Production I
  • Laboratory Operation V

These skills aim at very basic production and research roles.


Industry - Prospector

  • Racial Frigate I (allows you to fly a Bantam, the Caldari mining frigate)
  • Industry III (allows for basic operation of factories)
  • Refining V (allows for use of refineries and gives a 2% reduction in refinery waster per skill level)
  • Mining V (skill at using mining lasers and gives a 5% bonus to mining turret yield per skill level)

Clearly, if you are going to go down the mining profession path, these are the core skills required.

Business and Industry

Business Mogul

  • Trade II
  • Retail II
  • Broker Relations II


Business Tycoon

  • Procurement II
  • Daytrading II
  • Wholesale II
  • Accounting II


Field Technician

  • Salvaging I
  • Mechanic III
  • Survey III


Production Manager

  • Industry III
  • Mass Production III
  • Production Efficiency III


Research Manager

  • Research I
  • Laboratory Operation I
  • Metallurgy I

Harvesting

Common Ore Refiner

  • Kernite Processing III
  • Omber Processing III
  • Pyroxeres Processing III
  • Veldspar Processing III
  • Plagioclase Processing III
  • Scordite Processing III


Rare Ore Refiner

  • Crokite Processing III
  • Dark Ochre Processing III
  • Gneiss Processing III
  • Hedbergite Processing IV
  • Jaspet Processing IV
  • Hemorphiote Processing IV


Refinery Foreman

  • Refining III


Resource Harvester

  • Mining IV


These two certificates start at the standard level. They represent relatively advanced skill sets.

Ice Specialist

  • Ice Harvesting I
  • Astrogeology III
  • Mining V
  • Mining Upgrades II


Mercoxit Specialist

  • Deep Core Mining I
  • Astrogeology II
  • Resource Harvester Certificate - Standard

Leadership

There are quite a few leadership certificates and some of them require more basic leadership certificates. The general idea is that the more advanced leadership certificates are more specialised.

Battlespace Technician

  • Warfare Link Spcialist I
  • Battlecruisers II


Harvesting Comptroller

  • Tactical Commander Certificate - Basic
  • Mining Foreman V


Tactical Commander

  • Leadership V


Unit Leader

  • Tactical Commander V
  • Skirmish Warfare II
  • Armored Warfare II
  • Siege Warfare II
  • Information Warfare II

At the standard level, you have certificates that specialise in specific kinds of warfare (armoured, information, and siege).

Planning with Certificates

In the same way that one plans an academic or professional career based on goals, the pilot should plan one's skill training. Using certificates helps the process by laying out in relatively perspicuous form, just what you need to train to be able to do what you wish to do. I recommend using some form of skill training third party tools like EVEMon, Mac Eve Tools, or EVEUniverse.

The idea is not to follow whatever these certificates tell you to train (unless your goal is to just collect certificates), but to use them in order to get a working template for fine tuning.

As an example, you may have done the tutorials and are ready to go into the glamorous profession of mining. Looking at what we have said above it is clear that the core competencies are going to be important so that we don't die in the harsh cold of space and so that we can get the spacecraft to the rocks in one piece. Furthermore, the starter profession Prospector deals with mining, so that will be a good one to pursue.

Being conservative, we look to the requirements for Core Competency - Basic and Amarr Industry - Prospector, our current skills, and come up with something like this:

Certplanexample.png

This is a shot of Mac Eve Tools after I loaded our two certificates into the planner. I have chosen to do the Prospector certificate first because I'll be mining while these skills accumulate, so I might as well increase the yields I get while I skill the certificate. Your thinking might be different here; go with it. Feel free to move the skills around as you see fit. The program will re-arrange dependencies for you. For instance, you might want to wait to put Mining V into the skill queue until just before that long weekend you'll be off surfing, hang gliding, or wrestling alligators. Being away from the game is a good time for long training times. So, you might decide to skill to Mining IV, then do some of the energy and signature stuff before the Friday that you leave.

With some of the more advanced certificates, you might feel that putting that 14 day skill into your queue can wait for a while as you gather some of the other skills you'll need to get in to that Battlecruiser you've always wanted. That's perfectly good as well, as long as you don't need that particular skill to train the others. This is where the skill planning tools really help out.

Advanced Careers

As has been said, these six core careers should be thought of as root professions, like 'lawyer' rather than manager. But there are quite a few careers that are more highly specialised (or take longer to make them more than marginally worth the time) and require more skill training. We'll see just a few of these as introduction to what you might do once you are well on your way in training into a profession.

  • Scientific Careers
    • Archaeologist
    • Hacker
    • Cartographer
  • Military
    • Scout
    • EWAR Specialist
    • Tackler
    • Covert Ops Specialist
    • Sniper
    • Fleet Commander
  • Corporation Management
    • Chief Executive Officer
    • Accountant
    • Instructor/Mentor
  • Industry/Engineering
    • T2 Manufacturer
    • Research Engineer
    • Hauler

Supplementary Reading

EVEMon - Windows character progression program

Mac Eve Tools - MacOS X character progression application

ISK: the guide

Authors

User:Diane yanumano