Talk:Cloak trick

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Sept 23, 2010

The character Nyctef significantly chopped my original contribution down, deleting why the cloak trick is useful, what the cloak trick is, and relevant information regarding the fact that hitting the mwd after the cloak works. He also introduced a confusing statement that when you drop cloak you will be at "near align speeds" rather than "near-warp speed." He also introduced several grammatical errors. I've undone his edits and reverted this post to it's original form. - Dooobles.

Actually, the information you say I deleted was added to the first paragraph. "Align speed" is a term I've heard and used a lot (meaning 75% of max speed), while warp speed could be confused with the maximum speed attainable during warp (like 3 or 6 AU/s). I'm not sure about the grammatical errors; maybe you could elaborate on those. Anyway, I'll leave it alone for now. Nyctef 18:37, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Sept 24, 2010

I have never heard anyone use the term "align speed..." ever. You can align to an object at any speed. I see your history of editing other people's pages from your user page. I feel you consistently remove anecdotal advice that may be helpful for new players and that's why I restored this page to the state it was before your edits. If you're not ADDING something to my pages please leave them as they are unless you can back up and document that there is mis-information or have additional information to add. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I appreciate your effort to improve things and the articles you created yourself on the ORE ships are nice. Unless something is blatantly outdated you should confer with the original author before editing if possible, no one "owns" wiki pages but it is considered polite to consult with people who created the article. An example of your grammatical error would be saying "an MWD" in your revision. An is used only before words starting with vowels, I know it's not a big deal but it irritates me to find it on a page I originally authored. I also make grammatical errors, no worries. I appreciate your effort and cooperation, thanks man. Dooobles Sept 24, 2010.

Sometimes it's useful to refactor/reorganise a page without necessarily adding new information. I try to not remove information where possible, and I'm still not convinced I removed anything significant from this page. Organisation makes it much easier to find information on a page, and reduce duplication of information between pages. It also assists readers' comprehension to have a professional style to writing, which is not helped by guides written in the first person with phrases like "Here is the straight deal" and "Do wuhat?", which I find particularly funny when you criticize me on my (actually correct) grammar. You are right that guides don't belong to a single person, and if people had to consult every time they wanted to make a wiki edit then nothing would get done. I'd like to refer you to the notice underneath the edit box that says "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here." You can use "~~~~" to sign your discussions. Nyctef 20:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Note: I'm removing this discussion from this page and sending a pm to Nyctef on the forums. Also for anyone browsing the history, despite his link to wikipedia (the oracle of grammar it seems,) the use of the word an is not justified in the context in which it was used..