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== Restored WH table ==
 
== Restored WH table ==
 
 
Enta - I rolled back your latest changes, per the request of UNIs who wanted the large mass table restored.  The content you added was good, but that table needs to be preserved. - Neville Smit
 
Enta - I rolled back your latest changes, per the request of UNIs who wanted the large mass table restored.  The content you added was good, but that table needs to be preserved. - Neville Smit
  
Enta, you wiped the Wormhole mass table, again.  Is there something wrong about the table?  --[[User:Seamus donohue|Seamus donohue]] ([[User talk:Seamus donohue|talk]]) 21:26, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
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: Enta, you wiped the Wormhole mass table, again.  Is there something wrong about the table?  --[[User:Seamus donohue|Seamus donohue]] ([[User talk:Seamus donohue|talk]]) 21:26, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
  
Seamus - don't panic: the Wormhole mass table is still in the wiki - it's now fond via a link from this page to its own dedicated page: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormhole_Types -- Nev 12 November 2013
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:: Seamus - don't panic: the Wormhole mass table is still in the wiki - it's now fond via a link from this page to its own dedicated page: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormhole_Types -- Nev 12 November 2013
  
Enta - thanks for your edits and additions - and for preserving the old reference table.  Nev
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::: Enta - thanks for your edits and additions - and for preserving the old reference table.  Nev
  
Hadn't realized there was a discussion going on here as well. Confirming that it's in the new location and linked through the WH sidebar. - [[User:Enta en bauldry|Enta en bauldry]] ([[User talk:Enta en bauldry|talk]]) 05:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
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:::: Hadn't realized there was a discussion going on here as well. Confirming that it's in the new location and linked through the WH sidebar. - [[User:Enta en bauldry|Enta en bauldry]] ([[User talk:Enta en bauldry|talk]]) 05:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
  
 
== List of all WHs ==
 
== List of all WHs ==
 
 
Ekcim compiled a very useful list of all WH systems including their statics, number of moons and planets. I would love to see this on our wiki. Can we get this information on our wiki and maybe even copy the googledoc to our server so we keep access in case Ekcim at one point deletes his googledoc?
 
Ekcim compiled a very useful list of all WH systems including their statics, number of moons and planets. I would love to see this on our wiki. Can we get this information on our wiki and maybe even copy the googledoc to our server so we keep access in case Ekcim at one point deletes his googledoc?
  
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: It looks [[User:Terra_infector_adoudel/Wormhole_List|pretty awful]] as a wiki page. Maybe just add a link. I also agree with Enta though. Not sure on its use --[[User:Terra infector adoudel|Terra infector adoudel]] ([[User talk:Terra infector adoudel|talk]]) 16:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
 
: It looks [[User:Terra_infector_adoudel/Wormhole_List|pretty awful]] as a wiki page. Maybe just add a link. I also agree with Enta though. Not sure on its use --[[User:Terra infector adoudel|Terra infector adoudel]] ([[User talk:Terra infector adoudel|talk]]) 16:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
  
If you look for a new WH home, it is handy to find out which WHs fit your criteria (class, statics, nr. of moons, planets) and you can contact others with the exact WH number as well as offer ISK for finding a certain WH.
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:: If you look for a new WH home, it is handy to find out which WHs fit your criteria (class, statics, nr. of moons, planets) and you can contact others with the exact WH number as well as offer ISK for finding a certain WH.
  
 
== Plural page title ==
 
== Plural page title ==
 
 
Title of this page is plural, 'Wormholes'. On a wiki, most people expect titles to be singular ('Wormhole'). This is why 'Wormhole' as a link is the most wanted page. I'd suggest to rename this page to 'Wormhole' and fix all referring links. The alternative is a redirect on a new page 'Wormhole', however this redirect was deleted by Kelduum not long ago, I assume to prepare for a more standard solution. My question: Is it worth it, and am I allowed to fix all this? I'd be happy to do it for this page and possible others. -[[User:Elijah_borceforth|Elijah Borceforth]] 19:32, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 
Title of this page is plural, 'Wormholes'. On a wiki, most people expect titles to be singular ('Wormhole'). This is why 'Wormhole' as a link is the most wanted page. I'd suggest to rename this page to 'Wormhole' and fix all referring links. The alternative is a redirect on a new page 'Wormhole', however this redirect was deleted by Kelduum not long ago, I assume to prepare for a more standard solution. My question: Is it worth it, and am I allowed to fix all this? I'd be happy to do it for this page and possible others. -[[User:Elijah_borceforth|Elijah Borceforth]] 19:32, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
  
 
== Name of W-Space systems ==
 
== Name of W-Space systems ==
 
 
After reading those pages
 
After reading those pages
[http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Anoikis_%28Chronicle%29]
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Anoikis_%28Chronicle%29
[http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Anoikis]
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Anoikis
[http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek%27Jaalan_Library]
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http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek%27Jaalan_Library
 
I think we should mention that WH space systems are called Anoikis.
 
I think we should mention that WH space systems are called Anoikis.
  
 
Pitheas
 
Pitheas
:It's a wiki, go add it! --[[User:Terra infector adoudel|Terra infector adoudel]] ([[User talk:Terra infector adoudel|talk]]) 18:49, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
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: It's a wiki, go add it! --[[User:Terra infector adoudel|Terra infector adoudel]] ([[User talk:Terra infector adoudel|talk]]) 18:49, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
  
 
== WHC info ==
 
== WHC info ==
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: [[User:Brigadier Mahafatifati|Brigadier Mahafatifati]] in E-UNI Discord #wiki wrote: "the show info doesn't update unless someone jumps through or you warp off and warp back" --[[User:Evon R'al|Evon R'al]] ([[User talk:Evon R'al|talk]]) 08:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
 
: [[User:Brigadier Mahafatifati|Brigadier Mahafatifati]] in E-UNI Discord #wiki wrote: "the show info doesn't update unless someone jumps through or you warp off and warp back" --[[User:Evon R'al|Evon R'al]] ([[User talk:Evon R'al|talk]]) 08:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
  
It definitely does not exist between t-1 to t-15 minutes of the 15 window claimed. I recall anecdotal references of it being seen just before the collapse animation however if we have evidence of someone not seeing it after checking show info every second as it disappeared I think its enough to be removed. Good luck asking someone to keep clicking show info on a wormhole at the right time. History on the edit shows that it was removed but made it back again as a possibility and edited later to add certainty to the comment.  
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:: It definitely does not exist between t-1 to t-15 minutes of the 15 window claimed. I recall anecdotal references of it being seen just before the collapse animation however if we have evidence of someone not seeing it after checking show info every second as it disappeared I think its enough to be removed. Good luck asking someone to keep clicking show info on a wormhole at the right time. History on the edit shows that it was removed but made it back again as a possibility and edited later to add certainty to the comment.  
Requesting a new show info while on grid does give you updated information when going from '''not yet begun''' to '''beginning to decay''' and from '''beginning to decay''' to '''reaching the end'''. The claim that it doesn't update just for this status unless the grid is refreshed or a session change is invoked (by any party) seems unusual and can't form basis as evidence here unless the claim itself can be verified. This should not stop removal suggested by [[User:Seamus Donohue|Seamus Donohue]]. -- [[User:Biwako Acami|Biwako Acami]] ([[User talk:Biwako Acami|talk]])  (I forgot how to timestamp with my name)
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:: Requesting a new show info while on grid does give you updated information when going from '''not yet begun''' to '''beginning to decay''' and from '''beginning to decay''' to '''reaching the end'''. The claim that it doesn't update just for this status unless the grid is refreshed or a session change is invoked (by any party) seems unusual and can't form basis as evidence here unless the claim itself can be verified. This should not stop removal suggested by [[User:Seamus Donohue|Seamus Donohue]]. -- [[User:Biwako Acami|Biwako Acami]] ([[User talk:Biwako Acami|talk]])  (I forgot how to timestamp with my name)

Revision as of 10:10, 11 February 2024

Restored WH table

Enta - I rolled back your latest changes, per the request of UNIs who wanted the large mass table restored. The content you added was good, but that table needs to be preserved. - Neville Smit

Enta, you wiped the Wormhole mass table, again. Is there something wrong about the table? --Seamus donohue (talk) 21:26, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Seamus - don't panic: the Wormhole mass table is still in the wiki - it's now fond via a link from this page to its own dedicated page: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Wormhole_Types -- Nev 12 November 2013
Enta - thanks for your edits and additions - and for preserving the old reference table. Nev
Hadn't realized there was a discussion going on here as well. Confirming that it's in the new location and linked through the WH sidebar. - Enta en bauldry (talk) 05:19, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

List of all WHs

Ekcim compiled a very useful list of all WH systems including their statics, number of moons and planets. I would love to see this on our wiki. Can we get this information on our wiki and maybe even copy the googledoc to our server so we keep access in case Ekcim at one point deletes his googledoc?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Agw0iumi5pswdFdBRkJQZEpiX2hCRkg4U29Bb2FZcXc#gid=0

That would be quite a massive list. We could do it, but would anybody use it over Wormnav? Enta en bauldry (talk) 10:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
It looks pretty awful as a wiki page. Maybe just add a link. I also agree with Enta though. Not sure on its use --Terra infector adoudel (talk) 16:04, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
If you look for a new WH home, it is handy to find out which WHs fit your criteria (class, statics, nr. of moons, planets) and you can contact others with the exact WH number as well as offer ISK for finding a certain WH.

Plural page title

Title of this page is plural, 'Wormholes'. On a wiki, most people expect titles to be singular ('Wormhole'). This is why 'Wormhole' as a link is the most wanted page. I'd suggest to rename this page to 'Wormhole' and fix all referring links. The alternative is a redirect on a new page 'Wormhole', however this redirect was deleted by Kelduum not long ago, I assume to prepare for a more standard solution. My question: Is it worth it, and am I allowed to fix all this? I'd be happy to do it for this page and possible others. -Elijah Borceforth 19:32, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Name of W-Space systems

After reading those pages http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Anoikis_%28Chronicle%29 http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Anoikis http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Arek%27Jaalan_Library I think we should mention that WH space systems are called Anoikis.

Pitheas

It's a wiki, go add it! --Terra infector adoudel (talk) 18:49, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

WHC info

Something similar to what has been added across the top of the incursion page, to link to the E-Uni WHC page would make sense here. -- Jindo Lee (talk) 16:48, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

"dissipating into the ether"

On 2024-01-21, I watched an end-of-life wormhole for 3 hours. Specifically, one of my alts was orbiting a Wormhole A641; I used the "Look At" function on the wormhole, I had the wormhole in the Selected Item box, and I was clicking the Show Info button at irregular intervals over those 3 hours. I just so happened to be clicking the Show Info button every second when the wormhole despawned. The last text blurb in the Show Info window was "reaching the end of its natural lifetime". At no point in time did I observe the phrase "dissipating into the ether".

Additional testing and observations are required, but the "dissipating into the ether" phase might not exist.

--Seamus Donohue (talk) 00:31, 22 January 2024 (UTC)

Brigadier Mahafatifati in E-UNI Discord #wiki wrote: "the show info doesn't update unless someone jumps through or you warp off and warp back" --Evon R'al (talk) 08:30, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
It definitely does not exist between t-1 to t-15 minutes of the 15 window claimed. I recall anecdotal references of it being seen just before the collapse animation however if we have evidence of someone not seeing it after checking show info every second as it disappeared I think its enough to be removed. Good luck asking someone to keep clicking show info on a wormhole at the right time. History on the edit shows that it was removed but made it back again as a possibility and edited later to add certainty to the comment.
Requesting a new show info while on grid does give you updated information when going from not yet begun to beginning to decay and from beginning to decay to reaching the end. The claim that it doesn't update just for this status unless the grid is refreshed or a session change is invoked (by any party) seems unusual and can't form basis as evidence here unless the claim itself can be verified. This should not stop removal suggested by Seamus Donohue. -- Biwako Acami (talk) (I forgot how to timestamp with my name)