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| − | = Tips to Survive =
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| − | Survival is often a matter of common sense, patience, and remembering to put into practice some tried and true basics.
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| − | The following are a number of points that if followed will help you minimize your risks during wartime.
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| − | For a more in-depth write up on what to expect during war please read [[Wartime Operations in EVE University]]. This page is a very good read, especially for the newer members, and it helps give a broad understanding of the Uni during wartime.
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| − | == The Main "Rule" of EVE: Don't Fly What You Can't Afford To Lose ==
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| − | Read the title of this. Read it again. Remember it. This means don't fly your entire wealth in a single ship. It will get blown up. Don't fit large amounts of expensive mods on a cheap hull. Always balance isk/benefit.
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| − | == Smart Pilots take Precautions when Flying... ==
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| − | ==== ...PVE Ships ====
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| − | These are ships that are fit for PVE purpose, such as missions and/or incursions. The nature of these activities mean the ships are typically fit in a way that is suboptimal for PVP.
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| − | ==== ...Mining Ships ====
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| − | This includes the specialized [[Mining|mining]] ships, such as:
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| − | *[[Venture]]
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| − | *[[Barge]]s<ref>This should go without saying, but they have little to no offensive capability if the target is not an asteroid.</ref>
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| − | *[[Exhumer]]s<ref>While they can fit a half-decent PvE tank, they are simply not suited to any PvP.</ref>
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| − | *[[Orca]]<ref>Big, slow, expensive and no means of defence? Not a PvP ship!</ref>
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| − | ==== ...Haulers ====
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| − | This is any ship which is designed to move large amounts of cargo around<ref>In short, if there's something worth moving, its worth money to someone, and is better not put in harms way at all.</ref>, such as:
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| − | *[[Hauling#T1 Industrials|Industrials]], including the [[Noctis]]<ref>While they can have a decent buffer tank to avoid some suicide ganks, they are slow and do not survive long in PvP.</ref>
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| − | *[[Hauling#Blockade Runners (T2 Industrial)|Blockade Runner]]s<ref>These can warp cloaked, are fast and maneuverable, which is nice, but they are expensive and still don't last long, which is not nice.</ref>
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| − | *[[Hauling#Deep Space Transport (T2 Industrial)|Deep Space Transports]]<ref>These tend to have a half-decent tank, and built-in [[Warp Stabiliser|warp stabilisers]], but are very slow, expensive and an easy target.</ref>
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| − | *[[Hauling#Freighters|Freighters]]<ref>This should go without saying, but while freighters have a decent amount of HP, they huge, slow, can be outrun by a capsule and are incredibly expensive if/when they are lost, even without any cargo.</ref>
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| − | If you need to move items safely during wartime, you should use an [[Creating an Alt Hauler|'out-of-corp' Alt Hauler]] or issue a public courier contract.
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| − | == Smart Pilots will fit... ==
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| − | === ...your ship for PvP ===
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| − | This depends greatly on the ship and what you plan to do, but usually means no Mining lasers, cargo expanders or exploration (Codebreaker, Analyser, etc) modules, along with a Buffer tank where appropriate. For relevant fittings, [http://forum.eveuniversity.org/viewforum.php?f=129 see the forum].<ref>Hopefully this should be fairly self evident after playing a little EVE, but [[PvP]] fits tend to focus on 'buffer' tanks and are significantly different to [[PvE]] fits which focus on repairing over time.</ref>
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| − | === ...your guns and launchers efficiently ===
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| − | This means using faction ammo where you can<ref>The extra damage is usually worth the money, but if you cant afford it, thats ok.</ref>. Remember you don't need to fill your cargo, no matter what the ammo - you need only take one or two reloads on most fleets.
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| − | === ...a Tech 2 tank on BattleCruisers and Battleships ===
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| − | This means your tanking modules are mainly Tech 2, such as Hardeners, Extenders, and so on.<ref>There are some exceptions to this where the Meta 4 module has better statistics, and is cheaper or easier to fit, but in all cases you must still have the skills to fit the modules individually.</ref>
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| − | === ...your ship for its role ===
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| − | This should go without saying, but it means the modules on your ship should not typically cost massively more than the value of the hull. Tackle frigates are fit cheaply and disposably<ref>Use Meta 0, 1 or 2 modules where you can as they are very cheap.</ref>, and module cost scales with the cost of the hull<ref>The bigger the ship, the less likely it is to die quickly in a fight, therefore it is worth fitting it well.</ref>.
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| − | == You should ''always''... ==
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| − | === ...check the Local channel for War-Targets ===
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| − | Check it before you undock, and keep checking it whenever you are in space. Read up on how to [[Identifying War Targets in Local|identify war targets in local]]. Hostiles may appear at any moment.<ref>The Local channel is the best tool any player has as to what is going on, and during war it should be made as tall as possible so you can see as many people as possible without scrolling.</ref>
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| − | === ...check liveintel.ILN regularly ===
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| − | You should join the chat channel liveintel.ILN and check it for wartarget reports regularly.
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| − | === ...use D-Scan regularly when undocked ===
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| − | Your ship's onboard scanner, or D-Scan, is a valuable tool for you to use. Read up on it on our [[Directional Scanner Guide]].
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| − | === ...know how to save your pod ===
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| − | Knowing [[How to save your Pod]] will give you confidence in operating in space during wartime. It's also an essential PvP skillset.
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| − | === ...understand and know how to take advantage of timers ===
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| − | Knowing how to take advantage of [[Timers]] will help you get out of tricky situations and give you the time you need to make the best decision to avoid unnecessary losses.
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| − | === ...dock up if there are War-Targets ===
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| − | If not in a combat fleet<ref>Hopefully that should go without saying, but if you are in a combat fleet you should be killing them.</ref> and you see a War-Target in space or the local channel, then dock immediately, no waiting.
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| − | === ...avoid Trade Hubs when travelling ===
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| − | You should avoid [[Trade Hubs|Trade hubs]] when travelling<ref>These are prime hunting grounds for most wartargets, and will often have hostiles or their alts present.</ref>, and go around them when you can. Remember, you can use Trade skills for station trading remotely without having to be docked in the station.
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| − | == Dumb pilots who want to die quickly will ==
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| − | === ...use the Autopilot to fly your ship ===
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| − | Apart from using it to plot a course and highlight gates, it must never be used to actually fly your ship. All manoeuvres<ref>This includes setting the next system as a waypoint, and enabling autopilot while in warp, as it leaves a crucial few seconds before jumping.</ref> must be done manually.<ref>The Autopilot is dangerous even in peacetime as it drops you around 15km from the gate, meaning that you need to either align and enter warp to escape or burn those 15km to the stargate to jump through. Not to mention that Autopilot promotes being AFK.</ref>
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| − | === ...go AFK in space ===
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| − | Never leave your ship unattended for long periods when in space<ref>Being AFK, for an extended time, even cloaked at a safe-spot or sitting at the POS, simply isn't worth the risk.</ref>. Always dock up if you have to leave. If you are a scout or picket and need to take a short break, warp to a safe-spot and cloak up until you get back.
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| − | == Fleets should...==
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| − | === ...be on Mumble with the FC able to talk ===
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| − | Fleets must use the University [[Mumble]] server for voice communications, and the Fleet Commander must be able to talk.<ref>The few seconds needed to type out or otherwise pass a command are often the difference between a success and the loss of the whole fleet.</ref>
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| − | === ...have members that are not impaired ===
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| − | This means in PvP, you should not have additional accounts engaging in other things than the current combat operation. That means, no PvE, Mining, Chatting, Mailing, granting Titles etc. while you are on a combat operation. Using out of corp alts for fleet related tasks is fine.<ref>You really don't want to be known as the fleet commander who fell asleep in the middle of a warp.</ref>
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| − | =Activities you can try=
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| − | == During wartime you can... ==
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| − | There are a number of things which you can do during wars apart from hunting War Targets. These are some of them.
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| − | === ...travel around EVE ===
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| − | Travelling is defined as moving with no cargo (opposed to hauling) and should be done in a '[[Frigate#Fast Frigates|Fast Frigate]]'<ref>These are small, fast and can typically get through a camped gate if you encounter any hostiles. On top of this, they are also cheap, and will not typically make a significant ISK dent on the killboard.</ref>, [[Shuttle]] or [[Starter Frigate]]<ref>Travelling in a [[Capsule]], while possible, is generally a bad idea as they are so fragile. If flying a shuttle at least, you can survive at least one volley.</ref>. You should avoid hauling cargo on your Uni character, especially into and out of [[Trade Hubs|trade hubs]], into and out of the [[Campus Groups|campuses]], and along common trade routes. It is strongly encouraged that you [[Creating_an_Alt_Hauler|create an OOC (out-of-corp) Alt Hauler]]. Many a new player's "fortune" of stuff has found itself destroyed or floating in space to be scooped up and sold by the enemy. You will want to be mindful of any [[Travel Advisories]].
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| − | === ...set-up and spar at the E-UNI POS (currently exists) ===
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| − | If we currently have a POS, it is advisable to do activities such as setting up overviews, practicing scanning and sparring<ref>This does not have to be inside the shield, but for safety reasons you should stay within 50km of the tower where possible.</ref> should be done at the POS, as it will engage any hostile targets on grid with you<ref>It will tend to take a few seconds for the POS to lock and kill a wartarget, so you should still be careful</ref>.
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| − | If we do not currently have a POS, it is advisable to do this activities in a deep safe spot in an out of the way system.
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| − | === ...run fleets in LoSec and NullSec ===
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| − | Just because there are no war targets around doesn't mean there is nobody to fight. Take a fleet out to losec or nullsec, and see what you find<ref>This is a good way to practice, and there is usually someone to shoot and practice with, and you may run into wartargets.</ref>. Remember to follow the normal E-UNI Rules of Engagement.
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| − | === ...run Wormhole Operations ===
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| − | You may run combat sites in wormholes during wartime<ref>Wormhole combat sites require fits very close to normal PvP, and are a good way to practice fleet command.</ref>. A cloaked scout (either covert ops or picket) should stay at the exit to known-space<ref>This is simply to watch for any one entering the system, to give you advance warning.</ref>.
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| − | If you are using a salvage [[Destroyer]], [[BattleCruiser]] or [[Noctis]] ', it is safer if they are kept cloaked at a safe spot until time to salvage and then be guarded while salvaging.
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| − | === ...run Incursions ===
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| − | Incursions are allowed, but any fleets should have a few Ivy League members, and anyone outside of the alliance who is providing remote repair, shield transfer or similar should be made aware immediately when joining the fleet.<ref>Anyone assisting will flag themselves to the hostiles, which will allow them to be killed by them.</ref>. Unless the community openly supports having fleet members who are at war and you clear it with each fleet you run with, joining a 'public' Incursion fleet<ref>This means a fleet run by any open Incursion-running community, such as the "BTL Pub" or "The Ditanian Fleet" channels.</ref> is prohibited in wartime, as it risks our status with the other Incursion communities. Failure to follow this will likely see you [[The Departed|Departed]]<ref>The membership has worked hard to build trust with these groups, so if you risk this, you will be treated as a hostile target.</ref>.
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| − | === ...run missions, ideally in a small group ===
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| − | As these tend to involve high-value ships, so you should ensure you are some distance away from HQ in either a quiet (or very busy) system. You may run missions solo, but is strongly advised that you mission in a fleet of at least three students.
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| − | === ...run exploration sites, ideally in a small group ===
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| − | You can look to run exploration sites (relic, data, and combat) in the various security sectors of space away from the higher and more probable areas the war targets like to operate in. Exploration ships are extremely vulnerable so if you're caught by a war target expect to lose it. Try and run these sites in at least groups of three. You'd be reshipping for combat sites so in a small group you could have one actual explorer scanning down the sites and the others start the site while the explorer either reships to join in, or carries on with scanning.
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| − | === ...mine, ideally in a group ===
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| − | This is best done with four or more members, with at least one of them in a scout keeping an eye on incoming gates, and/or combat ship as support. Ideally, all mining should be done in an exploration pocket located in a quiet system or wormhole as far away from HQ and known operating areas of any war-targets as possible. Ensure that all fleet members keep a lookout in local for any hostiles, and nobody goes AFK without docking first. Don't forget to use an out of corp hauler to pick up any minerals. Solo mining is strongly discouraged and should only be undertaken if you can manage to mitigate the risks involved and you should definitely avoid popular Uni systems such as [[Aldrat]] where you would be easy prey and dangers are difficult to spot.
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| − | === ...station trade ===
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| − | Remember that moving cargo (items not for your current ship) is a bad idea while using an E-UNI character, and the [[Daytrading]], [[Marketing]] and [[Procurement]] skills allow you to trade remotely. 'Shopping trips' (i.e. hauling items you bought) are still a bad idea, and will probably get you killed if you use an industrial.
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| − | === ...use an out of alliance character ===
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| − | You can use an out-of-alliance character or alt for [[Alt Missioning|Missions]], Mining and Hauling alone. Many missions may be accepted on your E-UNI character but performed with an alt.
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| − | === ...leave E-UNI for a time ===
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| − | If you want to, [[So, You Want to Leave for the War?|you may leave the Uni during wartime]] without any penalties. You will retain access to the vast majority of forum content, channels, classes, the Wiki and even Mumble, and will be fast-tracked through recruitment when returning if re-applying within 30 days of leaving. Please note that the Uni may be under wartime conditions almost constantly.
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| − | = Possible Guidelines on What to Fly =
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| − | You may fly anything you want with the exception of supercarriers and titans. These tables are just as a possible example on how to limit your isk/risk to closely match your skill. It is merely a suggestion.
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| − | == Tables ==
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| − | Reading the tables assumes that you understand these terms. If you don't, [[Techs, Tiers and Meta levels| try here.]]
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| − | A more detailed listing of ships, modules, and rigs is [[Fitting Modules and Rigs Guide | here]] [[ Ships | and here]].
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| − | === Ship Table ===
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| − | ! width="50px" | No Title
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| − | ! width="50px" | Freshman
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| − | ! width="50px" | Graduate
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| − | ! width="450px" | Notes
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| − | | T1 (Including Capitals)
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| − | | Faction ships are produced by the 4 main empire navies.
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| − | | Pirate ships are those with dual-race skill bonuses, which are those produced by the NPC pirate corporations and Sisters of Eve.
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| − | === Module Table ===
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| − | ===Rigs Table===
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| − | = References and Notes =
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| − | For new players, its not immediately obvious why the rules are as they are. Below are answers to some of the more common questions.
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| − | <small><references /></small>
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| − | [[Category:War]] | |
