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==Griefing in rookie systems== | ==Griefing in rookie systems== | ||
CCP | CCP designates several systems as "rookie systems", consisting of the starter systems, the career agent systems, and Arnon. The canonical list can be found [https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203209712-Rookie-Griefing here]. | ||
{{quote|Attempting to abuse a new player's lack of knowledge of the game and its mechanic for your personal gain or simply for their harm is prohibited in these solar systems.}} | {{quote|Attempting to abuse a new player's lack of knowledge of the game and its mechanic for your personal gain or simply for their harm is prohibited in these solar systems.}} | ||
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==PLEX for GOOD== | ==PLEX for GOOD== | ||
Using a [http://web.archive.org/web/20160227201453/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/PLEX_for_GOOD PLEX for GOOD] campaign to scam people out of ISK, items or PLEX is | Using a [http://web.archive.org/web/20160227201453/https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/PLEX_for_GOOD PLEX for GOOD] campaign to scam people out of ISK, items or PLEX is explicitly forbidden by CCP and will earn you a permanent ban. | ||
=Recourse= | =Recourse= | ||
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===What you see=== | ===What you see=== | ||
It's a contract to buy items that | It's a contract to buy items that seem to offer above-market rates. They are often linked to in local chat. | ||
===How it works=== | ===How it works=== | ||
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If you want a failsafe, only ever keep a single copy of an expensive mod (or PLEX) on hand when selling to WTB contracts. | If you want a failsafe, only ever keep a single copy of an expensive mod (or PLEX) on hand when selling to WTB contracts. | ||
==Deal baiting contracts== | ==Deal baiting contracts== | ||
A deal | A deal-baiting contract looks like a buyer forgot to add one zero to the sell price of the contract, as the sell price is 10 times less than the price advertised in local and in the title of the contract. In fact the much-reduced actual sell price is still much higher than the value of the contracted items. | ||
===What you see=== | ===What you see=== | ||
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This exploits a player's desire to scoop up a "great deal". The scammer creates a contract with a large number of items (often including cheap faction or officer equipment such as faction/officer armour coatings). | This exploits a player's desire to scoop up a "great deal". The scammer creates a contract with a large number of items (often including cheap faction or officer equipment such as faction/officer armour coatings). | ||
The scammer sets the sell price of the contract to be several times that of the value of the items in the contract. They then set the title of the contract to advertise a sale price 10 times greater than the actual sale price on the contract. They advertise this in local for | The scammer sets the sell price of the contract to be several times that of the value of the items in the contract. They then set the title of the contract to advertise a sale price 10 times greater than the actual sale price on the contract. They advertise this in local for a higher sale price. | ||
The scammer hopes that a player will look at the contract and see that the actual sale price is 10 times less than the advertised price, assume that the scammer made a mistake on the price by forgetting to add one zero, and immediately scoop it up (thinking they're getting a deal) without looking too closely at the actual items. The scammer includes cheap faction/officer gear in the items to make the contract seem more believable, and to increase the chance that a player will fall for the scam (as most-but, importantly, ''not'' all-faction/officer gear is expensive). | The scammer hopes that a player will look at the contract and see that the actual sale price is 10 times less than the advertised price, assume that the scammer made a mistake on the price by forgetting to add one zero, and immediately scoop it up (thinking they're getting a deal) without looking too closely at the actual items. The scammer includes cheap faction/officer gear in the items to make the contract seem more believable, and to increase the chance that a player will fall for the scam (as most-but, most importantly, ''not'' all-faction/officer gear is expensive). | ||
===Example of how it works=== | ===Example of how it works=== | ||
A scammer in Jita buys 10 million ISK worth of random items and includes a couple of Centum C-Type Kinetic Energized Membranes (worth about 450 thousand ISK each). The scammer creates a contract for all of these items and sets the price at 950 million ISK. The scammer sets the title to "WTS 9.6 billion ISK". | A scammer in Jita buys 10 million ISK worth of random items and includes a couple of Centum C-Type Kinetic Energized Membranes (worth about 450 thousand ISK each). The scammer creates a contract for all of these items and sets the price at 950 million ISK. The scammer sets the title to "WTS 9.6 billion ISK". | ||
The scammer then advertises the contract in local (stating that the price is 9.6 billion ISK), including something about how they just sorted through their inventory and are doing a special bulk sale. An unsuspecting player sees the advertisement, looks at the contract out of curiosity, and sees that the price on the contract is 960 million ISK. The player assumes that the scammer forgot to add a zero to the actual contract price, sees some officer gear in there, and quickly accepts it before (in their mind) someone else does. The scam is now complete: the scammer has the player's 960 million ISK and the player is left with a large | The scammer then advertises the contract in local (stating that the price is 9.6 billion ISK), including something about how they just sorted through their inventory and are doing a special bulk sale. An unsuspecting player sees the advertisement, looks at the contract out of curiosity, and sees that the price on the contract is 960 million ISK. The player assumes that the scammer forgot to add a zero to the actual contract price, sees some officer gear in there, and quickly accepts it before (in their mind) someone else does. The scam is now complete: the scammer has the player's 960 million ISK and the player is left with a large number of items which together are worth much less than 960 million ISK. | ||
==Combined WTS/WTB contracts== | ==Combined WTS/WTB contracts== | ||
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This scam can involve market buy orders or contracts. Simply, the scammer sets up a buy order/buy contract at 1/1000 the average price. It relies on people not noticing the difference between 121 thousand and 121 million. | This scam can involve market buy orders or contracts. Simply, the scammer sets up a buy order/buy contract at 1/1000 the average price. It relies on people not noticing the difference between 121 thousand and 121 million. | ||
This scam can also be run with markets, especially in low population regions by offering ships or modules at 10x their price. For example if you're not careful and need a Rifter, you might accept the only sell order in the region as the average, while they're selling at 100m instead of 100k. | This scam can also be run with markets, especially in low population regions by offering ships or modules at 10x their price. For example, if you're not careful and need a Rifter, you might accept the only sell order in the region as the average, while they're selling at 100m instead of 100k. | ||
This scam works can be assisted by someone announcing in local broadcasting the contract and announcing they are selling at the lower price when the contract is actually selling at | This scam works can be assisted by someone announcing in local broadcasting the contract and announcing they are selling at the lower price when the contract is actually selling at a higher price. | ||
==Similar names== | ==Similar names== | ||
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===What you see=== | ===What you see=== | ||
The scammer will advertise a ship or module as its faction variant and rely on people not checking the actual item being offered. For example, someone might advertise a normal [[Raven]] as a [[Raven Navy Issue]]. Or they might advertise a faction variant that looks good but doesn't even exist. This can also work with modules with similar names, such as a less powerful Pith C-Type in a contract advertised as | The scammer will advertise a ship or module as its faction variant and rely on people not checking the actual item being offered. For example, someone might advertise a normal [[Raven]] as a [[Raven Navy Issue]]. Or they might advertise a faction variant that looks good but doesn't even exist. This can also work with modules with similar names, such as a less powerful Pith C-Type in a contract advertised as a stronger A- or X-Type. In some extreme cases, they could try to fool you with similar looking item names, like a unit of the element Carbon masquerading as the valuable [[Charon]] freighter, but those are much easier to spot as you often get a visual representation of the item along with the name. | ||
==The Three Ships== | ==The Three Ships== | ||
The "Three Ships" is a scam that tricks the victim into buying | The "Three Ships" is a scam that tricks the victim into buying an overpriced ship because they just missed out on a good deal. | ||
===What you see=== | ===What you see=== | ||
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===How to recognize the scam=== | ===How to recognize the scam=== | ||
The contract will: | The contract will: | ||
*be | *be only available for a day; | ||
* | *Specify a collateral number worth way more than the cargo; | ||
*be too big for a frigate but small enough to fit in | *be too big for a frigate but small enough to fit in a hauler (more easily ganked) and not realistic for a Freighter for such a short haul; | ||
*have a delivery route will be through low-trafficked systems and at least one 0.5 or less system (so the odd | *have a delivery route will be through low-trafficked systems and at least one 0.5 or less system (so the odd hauler passing through can be easily passive cargo scanned) | ||
==No-access courier contracts== | ==No-access courier contracts== | ||
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The contract owner will be part of a corporation or alliance that owns at least one structure, and that structure's access will generally be restricted to only members of that group. Because there is not currently a convenient method of verifying whether a pilot has access to a structure, a player who accepts this contract will be unable to complete the delivery, and the scammer will make a profit on the cost of the cargo due to the large collateral. | The contract owner will be part of a corporation or alliance that owns at least one structure, and that structure's access will generally be restricted to only members of that group. Because there is not currently a convenient method of verifying whether a pilot has access to a structure, a player who accepts this contract will be unable to complete the delivery, and the scammer will make a profit on the cost of the cargo due to the large collateral. | ||
Since October 2018 update all Upwell Structures have a drop box | Since October 2018 update all Upwell Structures have a drop box that anybody can use, regardless of access rights, to transfer items in space from their ship's cargoholds to the Upwell structure (but not back). This makes this kind of scam much harder to achieve if to a high-sec citadel (but not impossible). | ||
===How to recognize the scam=== | ===How to recognize the scam=== | ||
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==Manipulated Buy Orders== | ==Manipulated Buy Orders== | ||
The contractor will advertise a contract for several copies of the same item at an inflated price | The contractor will advertise a contract for several copies of the same item at an inflated price but will put in a buy order at en even slightly higher price. As soon as you buy the contract, the scammer withdraws the buy orders. | ||
Note that since this is highly time-sensitive, requiring the scammer to constantly monitor the market and be ready to change or cancel the order at a moment's notice, it's very unlikely that people actually do these | Note that since this is highly time-sensitive, requiring the scammer to constantly monitor the market and be ready to change or cancel the order at a moment's notice, it's very unlikely that people actually do these types of scams with normal buy orders. | ||
===What you see=== | ===What you see=== | ||
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* The scammer creates a contract for 3 items for a total of 500 million ISK. | * The scammer creates a contract for 3 items for a total of 500 million ISK. | ||
* The scammer also places 3 different buy orders for 200 million ISK each, leading you to believe you can buy and resell the contracts immediately for 100 million ISK profit. | * The scammer also places 3 different buy orders for 200 million ISK each, leading you to believe you can buy and resell the contracts immediately for 100 million ISK profit. | ||
* As soon as you accept the contract, the scammer withdraws their buy orders, or they fail due to lack of ISK. If the actual market price is 100 million ISK, you have lost 200 million ISK. | * As soon as you accept the contract, the scammer withdraws their buy orders, or they fail due to a lack of ISK. If the actual market price is 100 million ISK, you have lost 200 million ISK. | ||
* Making 3 different buy orders makes the process of | * Making 3 different buy orders makes the process of reselling the items longer; the buy orders usually have a 0.1 ISK difference, so a lambda will usually try to sell the items one by one. This gives the scammer more time to remove the other buy orders. Even if you manage to resell 1 of the items before the buy order is removed, you have lost 100 million ISK. | ||
===How to recognize the scam=== | ===How to recognize the scam=== | ||
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==BPCs as BPOs== | ==BPCs as BPOs== | ||
The contract will contain a [[Blueprint]] Copy (BPC) at a price that is close to—but better—than the going rate for a Blueprint Original (BPO). The victim ends up paying more than a BPC is typically worth | The contract will contain a [[Blueprint]] Copy (BPC) at a price that is close to—but better—than the going rate for a Blueprint Original (BPO). The victim ends up paying more than a BPC is typically worth because they compared the price to a BPO on the market. | ||
===What you see=== | ===What you see=== | ||
A blueprint, often of a type with very few existing contracts, that looks like a good deal when you click View Market Details from the contract window and find they are listed on the | A blueprint, often of a type with very few existing contracts, that looks like a good deal when you click View Market Details from the contract window and find they are listed on the market for a little bit more. | ||
===How it works=== | ===How it works=== | ||
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This scam primarily relies upon the player not understanding the difference between the two, or not recognizing that a BPC cannot be sold on the market. | This scam primarily relies upon the player not understanding the difference between the two, or not recognizing that a BPC cannot be sold on the market. | ||
===How to | ===How to recognize the scam=== | ||
* BPCs have a light blue background on their icon, | * BPCs have a light blue background on their icon, whereas BPOs have a dark blue background. | ||
* If the contract item has a limited number of runs, it is a BPC. BPOs have infinite runs. | * If the contract item has a limited number of runs, it is a BPC. BPOs have infinite runs. | ||
* Watch for comments that suggest it is below market price—these may be intended to make you check market price and not notice it's a BPC. | * Watch for comments that suggest it is below market price—these may be intended to make you check the market price and not notice it's a BPC. | ||
==Skin/Ship Scam== | |||
This Scam is common with capital ships, usually carriers and supercarriers though it can apply to any ship. This scam relies on the complex way the contract search function works. | |||
===What you see=== | |||
When searching for a ship (usually a supercarrier) on contracts, you see a contract that looks cheaper than all the rest, usually by not that much, but still cheaper, for example, 55 bil when the going price is 60. You immediately accept the contract, but then realize it doesn't contain a supercarrier but a far cheaper carrier and a skin with the name of the supercarrier you wanted. | |||
===How it works=== | |||
When searching for items on the contract system, the query will return all contracts bearing items with the name you typed, regardless of what it is you wanted. For example, searching "Bastion" will return contracts bearing either the Bastion Module or the Storyline "Bastion" armor plates. In the real scam, a pilot looking to buy a Hel supercarrier will search "Hel" in the search bar, but the query will return contracts bearing the Hel supercarrier, bpo's and bpc's for the Hel, and/or skins for the Hel. An over-eager buyer will not notice that the contract, with all of its "fluff" fittings and fighters, doesn't actually have the Hel in it but merely a significantly cheaper Nidhogur and a near-worthless Hel skin. This scam can work with any ship but is most common with capitals because these are less easily sold on the market and are commonly traded via contract. | |||
===How to recognize the scam=== | |||
The simplest way is to improve the way you search for things on the contract system. Instead of merely typing in "Hel" or whatever else you want, use the filter functions instead and avoid the unwieldy search tool. Using the "more search options" tool, you can filter for "ship," then filter for "supercarrier," and then and only then type in "Hel" to the search bar. This will return only contacts containing physical Hels and not blueprints or skins. | |||
Another way to avoid this scam is to simply read the whole contract to the bottom and ensure that you are getting what you think you are getting. | |||
=Other Miscellaneous Scams= | =Other Miscellaneous Scams= | ||
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==Sale of intangibles== | ==Sale of intangibles== | ||
This is the epic tale of selling someone the Golden Gate | This is the epic tale of selling someone the Golden Gate Bridge: someone's selling something that either has no worth, is not verifiable, or simply does not belong to them. For example, selling a bookmark to a wormhole with any kind of assurance of what is or is not in there (in terms of sites to run as well as the presence of a hostile corporation inside). Another example would be ransoming your ship and pod for the assurance that they'll let you go, then destroying you anyway. | ||
===Mining Permits=== | ===Mining Permits=== | ||
Some ingame groups | Some ingame groups claim "sovereignty" over all of high security space, and require that miners purchase a mining permit from them and conform to a standard of behavior, otherwise, they will kill you. Just run from these people if you can. | ||
====How it works==== | ====How it works==== | ||
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==Trade Window== | ==Trade Window== | ||
This scam relies on timing, typically when you're selling something. Someone offers you a great price and asks you to trade it via the trade window instead of using a private contract, for some arbitrary reason like not having enough money for contract fees. The scammer will enter the amount of ISK in the window, and as soon as you drop the item, they'll change the ISK amount to "0" and quickly accept the trade. Normally any chance or alteration of amount of modules would invalidate previous acceptance of the trade, but if they time it right by changing the value right after you add items, but before you click "Accept", you might accidentally accept the 0 ISK offer without knowing it. | This scam relies on timing, typically when you're selling something. Someone offers you a great price and asks you to trade it via the trade window instead of using a private contract, for some arbitrary reason like not having enough money for contract fees. The scammer will enter the amount of ISK in the window, and as soon as you drop the item, they'll change the ISK amount to "0" and quickly accept the trade. Normally any chance or alteration of the amount of modules would invalidate previous acceptance of the trade, but if they time it right by changing the value right after you add items, but before you click "Accept", you might accidentally accept the 0 ISK offer without knowing it. | ||
To avoid this scam, never use the trade window when dealing with someone you don't trust when the item is of non-trivial value. Contract fees are nothing compared to losing an expensive item). | To avoid this scam, never use the trade window when dealing with someone you don't trust when the item is of non-trivial value. Contract fees are nothing compared to losing an expensive item). | ||
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=Big Schemes= | =Big Schemes= | ||
Some of EVE's richer players like to run banks, investment schemes or IPOs (initial public offering). Occasionally these are even legitimate, but generally they are not. Remember that there's rarely a compelling reason for anyone else to make ISK for you | Some of EVE's richer players like to run banks, investment schemes or IPOs (initial public offering). Occasionally these are even legitimate, but generally, they are not. Remember that there's rarely a compelling reason for anyone else to make ISK for you and that unlike in real life, there are no significant consequences for fraud in New Eden. | ||
==Banks== | ==Banks== | ||
There are no ingame systems for administrating and controlling ingame banks. Even if banks in | There are no ingame systems for administrating and controlling ingame banks. Even if banks in EVE are started with the best of intentions, that much ISK concentrated in one place is an irresistible temptation. Most banks in EVE have ended with someone walking off with the money. You can confidently expect that any banks which haven't died in this way yet will do at some point. | ||
==Ponzi scheme== | ==Ponzi scheme== | ||
Those running a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme Ponzi scheme] pretend that the money they receive is invested, and the profits are distributed to the investors via dividends. In reality however, the dividends paid to existing investors are being funded by the money from new investors and administrators pocket the rest. Once they've reached the desired amount of ISK that they're happy with, they simply take the money and run. | Those running a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme Ponzi scheme] pretend that the money they receive is invested, and the profits are distributed to the investors via dividends. In reality, however, the dividends paid to existing investors are being funded by the money from new investors and administrators pocket the rest. Once they've reached the desired amount of ISK that they're happy with, they simply take the money and run. | ||
==Corporate theft== | ==Corporate theft== | ||
Corporate theft is hard to avoid | Corporate theft is hard to avoid because the person who intends to steal from you will wait as long as they need to in order to steal what they want. Corporate theft can work on many levels and as roles and trust grow, the opportunities to steal increase and could even evolve into alliance theft. It can't be emphasized enough that a person who's seriously looking to steal from a corporation or alliance, will not show their true intentions until it's too late. | ||
You can guard, or at least help mitigate, against such theft to some extent by spreading assets and not allowing a single person access to the majority of your assets -- or, even more simply, by never having any valuable assets in the first place. When it comes to being less vulnerable to corporate infiltrators removing players from your corporation or messing with roles, one thing you can do is to give all useful members a role. This gives you at least a day's warning by forcing the infiltrator hand a day in advance, as you need to remove roles from someone before kicking them. | You can guard, or at least help mitigate, against such theft to some extent by spreading assets and not allowing a single person access to the majority of your assets -- or, even more simply, by never having any valuable assets in the first place. When it comes to being less vulnerable to corporate infiltrators removing players from your corporation or messing with roles, one thing you can do is to give all useful members a role. This gives you at least a day's warning by forcing the infiltrator hand a day in advance, as you need to remove roles from someone before kicking them. | ||