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: I've added some text to discuss that, right below the fit. Does it make sense? Still go with a rainbow? --Antei

Needs a plate or MSE tank. Expect complete new player collapse and coms confusion. The veterans may know what modules to slap on, but I doubt the freshmen will. Either refit the griffins yourself before an engagement or have them already fitted with rainbow to cut down on micromanagement.-Karimson

: You need some serious powergrid skills to be able to fit the MSE. I can't. I've seen your fit, and some others on the web, but even with a MAPC I don't have the skills. (I have the basic fitting skills, but I don't have full "Upgrades" skills.) The MSE I has base PGreq = 28, and the Griffin has base PG = 24. Plate is similar, but better because there's more levels (200mm only needs PGreq = 10). Getting rid of rocket launchers would help this. Unfortunate thing, of course, is that Griffin is already short on low slots.

== Procurer fitting ==

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The Procurer as stated there should be somewhat tanky. Maybe, instead of a damage control system for the Procurer, use a warp stab. Run the Procurer at 70-75% aligned speed. Kind of thinking out loud on that one. I can see the pros and cons to both setups. Reduced targeting speed is probably not a major issue, though. - Kazi

Yeah, trouble with Warp Stabs is they carry a 50% penalty to targeting range each. Now, the targeting range of the Proc actually gets buffed a bit in Kronos--up to 30 km--but one warp stab would cut that to 15 km. That would be a bummer, given that the Orca extends the laser range to 25 km; it would mean more frequent reversals. And it wouldn't help vs. scrams. But I can see where you're coming from. --Antei

: Yeah, trouble with Warp Stabs is they carry a 50% penalty to targeting range each. Now, the targeting range of the Proc actually gets buffed a bit in Kronos--up to 30 km--but one warp stab would cut that to 15 km. That would be a bummer, given that the Orca extends the laser range to 25 km; it would mean more frequent reversals. And it wouldn't help vs. scrams. But I can see where you're coming from. --Antei

== A few suggestions ==

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Dagon/Taragon Shi

: Awesome! I'll wait for others to have a chance to read before commenting/changing any of this, but I did want comment on the very first thing. Dashes are used to connect words in a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen#Compound_modifiers compound modifier]--a combination of an adjective and an adverbial adjective that modifies that adjective--that precedes a noun, but not when it follows the noun, or when the adjective is used as a noun. So, for example, I've formatted "AMC miners in low sec" and "low-sec fleets" differently.

: \analgrammarlesson

: --Antei

: Made some changes based on these comments. Thanks! --Antei

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 : I've added some text to discuss that, right below the fit. Does it make sense? Still go with a rainbow? --Antei
+Needs a plate or MSE tank. Expect complete new player collapse and coms confusion. The veterans may know what modules to slap on, but I doubt the freshmen will. Either refit the griffins yourself before an engagement or have them already fitted with rainbow to cut down on micromanagement.-Karimson
+: You need some serious powergrid skills to be able to fit the MSE. I can't. I've seen your fit, and some others on the web, but even with a MAPC I don't have the skills. (I have the basic fitting skills, but I don't have full "Upgrades" skills.) The MSE I has base PGreq = 28, and the Griffin has base PG = 24.  Plate is similar, but better because there's more levels (200mm only needs PGreq = 10). Getting rid of rocket launchers would help this. Unfortunate thing, of course, is that Griffin is already short on low slots.
 == Procurer fitting ==
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 The Procurer as stated there should be somewhat tanky.   Maybe, instead of a damage control system for the Procurer, use a warp stab.  Run the Procurer at 70-75% aligned speed.  Kind of thinking out loud on that one.  I can see the pros and cons to both setups.  Reduced targeting speed is probably not a major issue, though. - Kazi
-Yeah, trouble with Warp Stabs is they carry a 50% penalty to targeting range each. Now, the targeting range of the Proc actually gets buffed a bit in Kronos--up to 30 km--but one warp stab would cut that to 15 km. That would be a bummer, given that the Orca extends the laser range to 25 km; it would mean more frequent reversals. And it wouldn't help vs. scrams. But I can see where you're coming from. --Antei
+: Yeah, trouble with Warp Stabs is they carry a 50% penalty to targeting range each. Now, the targeting range of the Proc actually gets buffed a bit in Kronos--up to 30 km--but one warp stab would cut that to 15 km. That would be a bummer, given that the Orca extends the laser range to 25 km; it would mean more frequent reversals. And it wouldn't help vs. scrams. But I can see where you're coming from. --Antei
 == A few suggestions ==
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 Dagon/Taragon Shi
+: Awesome! I'll wait for others to have a chance to read before commenting/changing any of this, but I did want comment on the very first thing. Dashes are used to connect words in a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphen#Compound_modifiers compound modifier]--a combination of an adjective and an adverbial adjective that modifies that adjective--that precedes a noun, but not when it follows the noun, or when the adjective is used as a noun. So, for example, I've formatted "AMC miners in low sec" and "low-sec fleets" differently.
+: \analgrammarlesson
+: --Antei
+: Made some changes based on these comments. Thanks! --Antei