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= Miscellaneous Timers/Countdowns =
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= Other Timers=
 
== Session Change Timer (SCT)  ==
 
== Session Change Timer (SCT)  ==
  
The SCT is a 10 second timer initiated after performing one of the following things:  
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The SCT is a 10 second timer initiated after performing one of the following things:
  
*jumping through a stargate or wormhole
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*jumping through a stargate, wormhole or jump bridge
*docking/undocking  
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*using a jump drive
*joining a fleet or getting moved to a different position within that fleet  
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*docking or undocking  
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*joining a fleet or moving to a different command position within that fleet  
 
*upon booster/role changes applied to you in that fleet  
 
*upon booster/role changes applied to you in that fleet  
*cyno-jumping
 
 
*leaving your ship, either through ejecting or having it destroyed  
 
*leaving your ship, either through ejecting or having it destroyed  
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*boarding a ship
 
*performing a clone jump  
 
*performing a clone jump  
 
*being podded  
 
*being podded  
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*changing corp wallet divisions
 
*changing corp wallet divisions
  
While the SCT is active it prevents you from doing any of the things that cause a session change timer (i.e. anything on the list above).  
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Whilsr the SCT is active it prevents you from doing any of the things that cause a session change timer (i.e. anything on the list above), and will give you a sometimes amusing error message. Some of these things, if you attempt them with the SCT active, will 'queue', and will be executed as soon as it wears off.
 
 
[[Image:Scotty.jpg]]
 
  
 
The SCT is displayed in the top left corner of your screen. The exact time remaining will be displayed upon mouse-over.  
 
The SCT is displayed in the top left corner of your screen. The exact time remaining will be displayed upon mouse-over.  
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''2: You are fighting on a wormhole and your ship is destroyed''. ''You attempt to jump your capsule through the wormhole to get away, but your SCT from your ship being destroyed prevents you jumping (and so your capsule is destroyed too!).''  
 
''2: You are fighting on a wormhole and your ship is destroyed''. ''You attempt to jump your capsule through the wormhole to get away, but your SCT from your ship being destroyed prevents you jumping (and so your capsule is destroyed too!).''  
  
=== SCT and invulnerability ===
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=== Station undock invulnerability timer ===
  
The game grants you a protection after undocking. If you do not activate any modules, or target anyone, or move your ship in any direction after undocking you cannot be locked/fired upon for 30 seconds. This can be used to wait out your SCT and re-dock.  
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The game grants you a 30 second protection after undocking. If you do not activate any modules, or target anyone, or move your ship in any direction after undocking you cannot be targeted or bumped at all for 30 seconds. This can be used to wait out your SCT and re-dock.
  
''Example: You undock and spot hostiles around the station, you hit "ctrl-space" to stop your ship and prevent it from drifting outside of docking range of the station. You wait out your SCT while being invulnerable. You dock up again.''
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You can still press Ctrl+Space to stop your ship (or click the small - icon on the HUD) and retain your invulnerability, this action does not break it.
  
'''Important note:''' There are certain stations that will eject you (kick-out) outside of docking range and prevent you from using this tactic without reapproaching the station's docking radius. A prominent example would be the EVE-University HQ at Aldrat IX – Pator Tech School.  
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'''Important note:''' There are certain stations that will eject you (kick-out) outside of docking range and prevent you from using this tactic without reapproaching the station's docking radius. A prominent example would be the EVE-University HQ at Aldrat IX – Pator Tech School. Even if you immediately stop your ship on undocking, by the time your SCT has worn off you are likely to be out of immediate docking range
  
 
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[[Image:Hq75.jpg]]
  
=== SCT and cloak  ===
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== Gate cloak timer ==
  
The other form of protection granted is the cloak after using a stargate. When jumping through you will stay cloaked for 60 seconds unless you move or activate any modules. As with the station dock invulnerability, this allows you to wait out your SCT and reapproach the gate to jump back through it. However, you will be several (up to 15) kilometers away from the gate when you enter the system, and since you instantly de-cloak the moment you begin moving and you must be within 2500 meters to jump through the gate, you need to have a VERY fast ship to be able to jump back through the gate before anyone can webify or destroy your ship.  
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After jumping through a stargate or wormhole you will have an SCT for 10 seconds, however the entire gate cloak timer is 60 seconds. For this entire 1 minute period you are invulnerable to damage from such effects as bombs, smartbombs and ECM Bursts. For the entire duration of the cloak you cannot be de-cloaked by someone coming within 2000 meters. For the entire period you cannot be bumped to cause you to lose your cloak.  
  
<br> ''Example: You jump through a gate and spot hostiles upon system entry. You stay cloaked and let your SCT expire, and then reapproach the gate as fast as you can and try to jump back through before being fired on.''
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You are effectively completely invulnerable and invisible - however, the gate or wormhole will have flashed to signify a ship has jumped through it (and in k-space you will immediately appear in Local chat), so if anyone happens to be watching they are likely to know you are there.
  
== Gate Cloak Timer  ==
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This timer allows you a period of safety to scout out the system, with d-scan or otherwise, before deciding what course of action to take.
  
After jumping through a stargate or wormhole you will have an SCT for 10 seconds, however the entire gate cloak timer is 60 seconds. For the entire period  you are invulnerable to damage from such effects as bombs, smartbombs and ECM Bursts. For the entire duration of the cloak you cannot be de-cloaked by someone coming within 2000 meters. For the entire period you cannot be bumped to cause you to lose your cloak.
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== Logout timer ==
 
 
== Logout Timer ==
 
  
 
When logging out in space, your ship (if not warp-disrupted/scrambled) will warp off to a random location and remain there for 1 minute until disappearing.
 
When logging out in space, your ship (if not warp-disrupted/scrambled) will warp off to a random location and remain there for 1 minute until disappearing.
  
This timer will extend to 5 minutes if you were involved in combat with npc ships.
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This timer will extend to 5 minutes if you were involved in combat with NPC ships.
  
It will get extended to 15 minutes if you were involved in pvp, be it you being aggressive or being aggressed by someone. Should your ship be destroyed during this time, another 15 minute timer applying to your pod will start.
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It will get extended to 15 minutes if you were involved in pvp, whether it you being aggressive or being aggressed by someone else. Should your ship be destroyed during this time, another 15 minute timer applying to your pod will start.
  
== Polarization Timer for Wormholes  ==
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== Wormhole polarization timer ==
  
 
You can make a maximum of 2 jumps through a specific [[Wormholes|wormhole]] in 5 minutes. If you try to jump a third time through the same wormhole inside those 5 minutes, you will receive a message informing you how long you have to wait before you can jump again.&nbsp; This timer doesn't apply to jumping through different wormholes.<br>
 
You can make a maximum of 2 jumps through a specific [[Wormholes|wormhole]] in 5 minutes. If you try to jump a third time through the same wormhole inside those 5 minutes, you will receive a message informing you how long you have to wait before you can jump again.&nbsp; This timer doesn't apply to jumping through different wormholes.<br>
  
== Trade Modification Timer ==
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== Trade modification timer ==
  
 
When you place or modify a buy or sell order in the market, you will not be allowed to modify that order or delete that order until 5 minutes have elapsed.
 
When you place or modify a buy or sell order in the market, you will not be allowed to modify that order or delete that order until 5 minutes have elapsed.
  
== Corporation Roles & Titles Timer ==
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== Corporation roles & titles timer ==
  
 
While the timer does still exist, members can quit corporation even without waiting 24 hours after dropping roles by right clicking their portrait in chat and choosing quit corporation? and confirm quit corporation.
 
While the timer does still exist, members can quit corporation even without waiting 24 hours after dropping roles by right clicking their portrait in chat and choosing quit corporation? and confirm quit corporation.
  
== Character Termination Timer ==
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== Character termination timer ==
  
 
If you choose to terminate one of the characters owned by your account, it will enter the recycling queue for a 10 hour waiting period. When the 10 hour timer expires, you can complete the termination of the character and re-use the slot for a new character.
 
If you choose to terminate one of the characters owned by your account, it will enter the recycling queue for a 10 hour waiting period. When the 10 hour timer expires, you can complete the termination of the character and re-use the slot for a new character.
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*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyjBwWcFGe0 Pirating Timer Video]
 
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyjBwWcFGe0 Pirating Timer Video]
 
*[http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1213121 Hidden Aggro Timer Bug]
 

Revision as of 23:19, 14 December 2014

A brief overview about the basics of timers and their impact on capsuleers in empire space.

Combat and legality timers

The Retribution expansion introduced a new and improved timers system called Crimewatch 2.0, which greatly improve upon the previous one by getting rid of the Global Countdown Timer and generally streamlining the system via the use of specific flags.

It's very important to be aware of and understand what the different timers mean and what the implications are in terms of legality. Timers can easily wreak havoc in the fleet causing issues with rules of engagements and remote assistance.

See Crimewatch for more details on the more intricate mechanics of legal timers.

Combat Timers

The following timers have no direct impact on the legality of actions, but serve as a consequence for your actions. Keep in mind that the capsuleer log-off timer can indirectly cause legality issues if you are also at war.

Non-Capsuleer Log-Off Timer

NPC flag Non-Capsuleer Log-Off Timer a.k.a. NPC-flag
Cause: Combat with a non-capsuleer
Consequence: Ship will remain in space on log-off until timer expires (5 minutes)

The non-capsuleer log-off timer is created when you either shoot or get shot by an NPC.

This means you will remain in space if you disconnect or close the client, until the timer runs out. The NPC timer will not be renewed if you are shot while already having disconnected or logged off.

Capsuleer Log-Off Timer

PvP flag Capsuleer Log-Off Timer a.k.a. PvP-flag (complicated timer, see comments below)
Cause: Combat with another capsuleer.
Consequence: Ship will remain in space on log-off until timer expires (15 minutes).

The capsuleer log-off timer is created when you either shoot or get shot by a fellow capsuleer.

This means you will remain in space if you disconnect or close the client, until the timer runs out. The timer will be renewed if you are shot while already having disconnected or logged off. So if someone finds you after you logged out they can keep your ship in space indefinitely.

When your corporation or alliance is at war, the capsuleer log-off timer becomes deceptively dangerous because in order to assist someone with a capsuleer log-off timer who is at war will require you to turn your safety to yellow and go suspect. As such, it's important to avoid accidentally shooting corporation members, since that is a legal action in and by itself, but it will give you both capsuleer log-off timers that will be spread to the logistics and anyone else who's offering remote assistance.

Weapon Timer

Weapon flag Weapons Timer
Cause: Aggression against another capsuleer.
Consequence: Unable to dock or use stargates (60 seconds).

You get a weapon timer whenever you activate an offensive module against another player (including webs, painters, damps, scrams, points, turrets, missiles, drones etc). Unlike the capsuleer log-off timer, you do not get this flag simply by being shot by another player.

While this timer is active you cannot change sessions, which means you cannot jump, dock or eject from, store or switch ships.

Legality Timers

The following timers directly determine whether or not you are a legal target.

Suspect Timer

Suspect flag Suspect Timer
Cause: Committed a "suspect"-level offense.
Consequence: Capsuleers may freely engage (15 minutes).

The suspect timer means that anyone can freely attack you without CONCORD interfering. If someone engages you, a limited engagement timer is created between both of you, to allow you to shoot back at the aggressor. This causes issues with assistance however, due to interfering with a limited engagement (for more information, see limited engagement below).

Criminal Timer

Criminal flag Criminal Timer
Cause: Committed a "criminal"-level offense.
Consequence: Capsuleers may freely engage. CONCORD will engage in high-sec space (15 minutes).

The criminal timer means that anyone can freely attack you without CONCORD interfering.

If someone engages you, a limited engagement timer is created between both of you, to allow you to shoot back at the aggressor. This causes issues with assistance however, due to interfering with a limited engagement (for more information, see limited engagement below).

Consequences of being a criminal

Being a criminal means that CONCORD will engage and kill you in high security space. The response-time of CONCORD depends on the security of space, anything between a few seconds up to half a minute. During that time, while piloting a ship with a criminal flag you'll be unable to enter warp, jump through gates, dock up in stations, eject from, store or switch ships. Those restrictions are lifted once your ship is destroyed and you're in your capsule. That doesn't necessarily mean you can do these things, as all those actions (with the exception of warping away) would also be prohibited by an active weapon timer.

Being a criminal in low security space is practically the same as being a suspect, as long as you or anyone who assists you have no plans of jumping into high security space for the next fifteen minutes.

Jumping into or undocking a ship in high security space as a criminal will allow you to benefit from the session change timer invulnerability, but it only delays the inevitable demise of your ship. Even if your criminal timer runs out during the invulnerability, CONCORD will still follow through and destroy your ship, even though you're no longer a criminal when the invulnerability wears off.

Limited Engagement Timer

Limited Engagement flag Limited Engagement Timer
Cause: Involved in a limited engagement with 1 pilot (or any number of pilots).
Consequence: These pilots may freely engage you while timer is active (5 minutes).
Hovering over the limited engagement icon will show all current engagements, the pilot's name and corporation as well as the time left.

A limited engagement is created whenever two capsuleers are involved in combat where both parties cannot legally shoot each other. So to ensure that you can always shoot back when aggressed, the limited engagement is created when legality isn't enough. The timer is renewed whenever either side of the limited engagement takes aggressive action.

Consequences of being in a limited engagement

Being involved in a limited engagement means that any for anyone to offer outside assistance, the assistee would be forced to go suspect unless you can both legally attack each other. Simply being attackable doesn't count, you actually have to have the right already through mutual wars, or your very own limited engagement mirroring the one your recipient has.

Naturally in null security space or wormhole space, where you are allowed to freely engage anyone at any time, there would be no legality issues and no timers apart from the combat timers would be created in the first place.

Remote assistance

There are several modules that doesn't give you any bonuses, but instead is activated on a friendly ship to give them a boost. Below is a list of common assistance modules.

Remote assistance module Description
Icon shield transporter i.png Remote shield boosters Repairs shield hit points of the targeted ship.
Icon remote armor repair i.png Remote armor repairers Repairs armour hit points of the targeted ship.
Icon remote capacitor transmitter i.png Remote capacitor transmitters Transfers capacitor energy to the targeted ship.
Icon tracking computer i.png Remote tracking computers Increases the tracking speed and range of the targeted ship's turrets.
Icon sensor resolution.png Remote sensor boosters Increases the scan resolution and locking range of the targeted ship.

Remote assistance and combat timers

Whenever you remotely assist someone, you will automatically inherit all the combat timers of the one you're assisting. The time left will be whatever the recipient of your assistance has left, so if someone has 22 seconds left of their weapon timer when you assist them, your inherited weapon timer will also have 22 seconds left, assuming you don't have a weapon timer of your own with more than 22 seconds left on it.

Apart from inheriting timers, naturally legality puts itself on top of that, regulating what actions cause you to get a suspect or criminal timer.

Remote assistance and legality

As remote assistance can turn the tide of battle, certain actions are legal and some are not. In general, interfering in a fight between two parties or aiding a suspect is usually a suspect offence and assisting outlaws and criminals is a criminal offence.



Other Timers

Session Change Timer (SCT)

The SCT is a 10 second timer initiated after performing one of the following things:

  • jumping through a stargate, wormhole or jump bridge
  • using a jump drive
  • docking or undocking
  • joining a fleet or moving to a different command position within that fleet
  • upon booster/role changes applied to you in that fleet
  • leaving your ship, either through ejecting or having it destroyed
  • boarding a ship
  • performing a clone jump
  • being podded
  • joining or leaving a corporation
  • changing corp wallet divisions

Whilsr the SCT is active it prevents you from doing any of the things that cause a session change timer (i.e. anything on the list above), and will give you a sometimes amusing error message. Some of these things, if you attempt them with the SCT active, will 'queue', and will be executed as soon as it wears off.

The SCT is displayed in the top left corner of your screen. The exact time remaining will be displayed upon mouse-over.

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Examples of the SCT in action:

1: You are scouting lo-sec systems in a CovOps for a fleet and the FC moves you to another wing or squad without telling you. You arrive on a stargate to jump through, but the SCT prevents you from jumping.  Unfortunately there happened to be a hostile there, and because you were decloaked by the stargate, you are destroyed.

2: You are fighting on a wormhole and your ship is destroyed. You attempt to jump your capsule through the wormhole to get away, but your SCT from your ship being destroyed prevents you jumping (and so your capsule is destroyed too!).

Station undock invulnerability timer

The game grants you a 30 second protection after undocking. If you do not activate any modules, or target anyone, or move your ship in any direction after undocking you cannot be targeted or bumped at all for 30 seconds. This can be used to wait out your SCT and re-dock.

You can still press Ctrl+Space to stop your ship (or click the small - icon on the HUD) and retain your invulnerability, this action does not break it.

Important note: There are certain stations that will eject you (kick-out) outside of docking range and prevent you from using this tactic without reapproaching the station's docking radius. A prominent example would be the EVE-University HQ at Aldrat IX – Pator Tech School. Even if you immediately stop your ship on undocking, by the time your SCT has worn off you are likely to be out of immediate docking range

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Gate cloak timer

After jumping through a stargate or wormhole you will have an SCT for 10 seconds, however the entire gate cloak timer is 60 seconds. For this entire 1 minute period you are invulnerable to damage from such effects as bombs, smartbombs and ECM Bursts. For the entire duration of the cloak you cannot be de-cloaked by someone coming within 2000 meters. For the entire period you cannot be bumped to cause you to lose your cloak.

You are effectively completely invulnerable and invisible - however, the gate or wormhole will have flashed to signify a ship has jumped through it (and in k-space you will immediately appear in Local chat), so if anyone happens to be watching they are likely to know you are there.

This timer allows you a period of safety to scout out the system, with d-scan or otherwise, before deciding what course of action to take.

Logout timer

When logging out in space, your ship (if not warp-disrupted/scrambled) will warp off to a random location and remain there for 1 minute until disappearing.

This timer will extend to 5 minutes if you were involved in combat with NPC ships.

It will get extended to 15 minutes if you were involved in pvp, whether it you being aggressive or being aggressed by someone else. Should your ship be destroyed during this time, another 15 minute timer applying to your pod will start.

Wormhole polarization timer

You can make a maximum of 2 jumps through a specific wormhole in 5 minutes. If you try to jump a third time through the same wormhole inside those 5 minutes, you will receive a message informing you how long you have to wait before you can jump again.  This timer doesn't apply to jumping through different wormholes.

Trade modification timer

When you place or modify a buy or sell order in the market, you will not be allowed to modify that order or delete that order until 5 minutes have elapsed.

Corporation roles & titles timer

While the timer does still exist, members can quit corporation even without waiting 24 hours after dropping roles by right clicking their portrait in chat and choosing quit corporation? and confirm quit corporation.

Character termination timer

If you choose to terminate one of the characters owned by your account, it will enter the recycling queue for a 10 hour waiting period. When the 10 hour timer expires, you can complete the termination of the character and re-use the slot for a new character.

Links

  • Log off mechanic threads here and here on the official Eve Online forum.