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Discussion page of User:Abelard Andedare/WIP/3rd Party Tools
some initial questions and issues
 
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A complete rewrite of the [[3rd Party Tools]] article, with an eye towards usability and maintainability
=Plan of Action=
# <s>Initial layout and information gathering</s>
# <s>incorporation of all standalone or web hosted tools from the #tweetfleet [https://github.com/devfleet/awesome-eve awesome-eve] list</s>
# <s>checking and incorporation of all relevant entries from the old page</s>
# <s>copy editing</s>
# peer review
# publication
# moving of leftover resources to a new page to compliment this one, with "reference material" and "news"
[[User:Abelard andedare|Abelard andedare]] ([[User talk:Abelard andedare|talk]]) 19:35, 14 March 2017 (CDT)
=Outstanding Issues=
=Outstanding Issues=
* Should self-hosted web-apps (requiring a LAMP stack or equivalent) be included?
* Should self-hosted web-apps (requiring a LAMP stack or equivalent) be included?
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[[User:Abelard andedare|Abelard andedare]] ([[User talk:Abelard andedare|talk]]) 16:13, 14 March 2017 (CDT)
[[User:Abelard andedare|Abelard andedare]] ([[User talk:Abelard andedare|talk]]) 16:13, 14 March 2017 (CDT)
I would suggest to add the following additional tools (from my parallel edit):
* <s>jEveAssets - very useful asset manager (http://eve.nikr.net/jeveasset)</s>
* IGB POS Planer - Unique POS fitting tool, and does not need the IGB to work
* <s>EVE Structures - Unique tool for finding public structures in New Eden (http://www.kalkoken.org/apps/evestruct/)</s>
[[User:Erik kalkoken|Erik kalkoken]] ([[User talk:Erik kalkoken|talk]]) 18:17, 15 March 2017 (CDT)
* Oops, I though jEveAssets WAS added. Feel free to add it. Would you put it in Market/Industry or Misc?
* IGB POS Planer has no updates since 2016-05, which is around the time I have been dropping other tools without updates.
* Feel free to add this one too. Intel section?
[[User:Abelard andedare|Abelard andedare]] ([[User talk:Abelard andedare|talk]]) 18:20, 15 March 2017 (CDT)
* added jEveAssets and Eve Structures
* I think jEveAssets fits well in the Character Monitoring, since its about monitoring character related information
* Regarding IGB POS Planer: I agree that its about a year old, but I would argue that it is still very useful for players and there is no alternative (that I know of). Also, there has not been any big POS changes since then. So I would still recommend it to players today. What do you think?
--[[User:Erik kalkoken|Erik kalkoken]] ([[User talk:Erik kalkoken|talk]]) 21:00, 15 March 2017 (CDT)
* You make some good points about IGB POS. I am adding it back in
* adding a warning note to Pirate's little helper that it is [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5zl4l6/is_rischwa_done_with_eve/ no longer being developed] and is breaking/will break in the near future
[[User:Abelard andedare|Abelard andedare]] ([[User talk:Abelard andedare|talk]]) 08:09, 16 March 2017 (CDT)
=Removed Entries=
I am leaving out the following tools because they are not updated in a long while:
* [https://github.com/gtkevemon/gtkevemon GtkEveMon] - not updated since May 14, 2016, and that was minor
* [http://sourceforge.net/projects/evemeep/ EVE Meep] - last update in 2015
* [http://www.evementat.com/ Eve Mentat] - no longer extant
* [https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246157 EVE-O] - no update since 2013?
* [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aideronrobotics.android.aura Aura] - last updated December 15, 2014
* [http://eve-hunt.net/ EVE Hunt] - no longer extant
* [http://eve.grismar.net/ Grimsar's EVE Wiki] - site is broken
* [http://gunfleet.org/igb/index.php Gunfleet EVE Quick Lookup] - no longer extant
* [http://eve-cost.eu/ EVE-Cost] - site is still up but no updates or communication since 2016-01-21
* [http://eve.battleclinic.com/ Battleclinic] - no longer extant
* [http://failheap-challenge.com/ Failheap Challenge] - forums are not tools
* [http://dedafsindustrialtool.blogspot.com/ Dedaf's Industrial Tool] - no update since 2015-12
[[User:Abelard andedare|Abelard andedare]] ([[User talk:Abelard andedare|talk]]) 20:26, 14 March 2017 (CDT)
=Reference Sites=
The following entries are being left out because they are not tools per se, and should be part of a separate "Further Resource" type of page
* [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eve.news.official Eve News] - news aggregators don't really belong here
* [http://evenews24.com/ EN24] - news aggregators don't really belong here
* [http://www.themittani.com/ The Mittani dot com] - news aggregators don't really belong here
* [http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/default.php Chruker's EVE site] - Reference sites belong elsewhere
* [http://cerlestes.de/ Cerlestes Ore and Ice Tables] - Reference sites belong elsewhere
* [http://howtoeve.com/ref.html EVE Reference Sheet] - Reference sites belong elsewhere
* [http://www.eveacronyms.com/ EVE Acronyms] - Reference sites belong elsewhere
[[User:Abelard andedare|Abelard andedare]] ([[User talk:Abelard andedare|talk]]) 19:16, 14 March 2017 (CDT)