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Incursion fleets rely on good resists and buffer supported by a logistics. There are simply too many enemies to be able to fit a strong enough local tank, not to mention that by sacrificing a small portion of your fleet to bring in logistics instead of more damage dealers, the rest of the damage dealers can fit more offensive modules and your fleet will perform better.

Once you have a good enough tank, the rest of your spare slots should be used to augment your damage potential. While there's such a thing as under-tanked, being over-tanked is not only wasteful in incursions but even dangerous if done at the cost of ~~offense~~.

Once you have a good enough tank, the rest of your spare slots should be used to augment your damage potential. While there's such a thing as under-tanked, being over-tanked is not only wasteful in incursions but even dangerous if done at the cost of offence.

See [[Preparing for Incursions]] for more information about what skills are needed.

== Omni damage ==

The Sansha incursion rats deal two types of damages, lasers (EM and thermal) and torpedoes (kinetic and explosive). As such, they hit across all four resist types and all incursion fits ~~must reflect that. In general we use a rather erroneous term ''"70%~~ resists ~~across the board"'' when we tell people what their resists should be~~. It is important to know that there is more to it than that.

The Sansha incursion rats deal two types of damages, lasers (EM and thermal) and torpedoes (kinetic and explosive). As such, they hit across all four resist types and therefore all incursion fits have to have even resists. It is important to know that there is more to it than that.

First of all, it's more of an average resist per type of damage so you can often compensate one resist for the other. The Basilisk for example can ~~leave~~ a ~~reasonable hole in its~~ EM resist thanks to their ~~high~~ thermal resist and still stand up to the damage inflicted by lasers. It also means that most ships can have a slightly lower kinetic resist as long as their explosive resist is equally higher, averaging a solid ~~70%~~ resist-profile for the damage inflicted by torpedoes.

First of all, it's more of an average resist per type of damage, so you can often compensate one resist for the other. The Basilisk for example can have a lower EM resist thanks to their higher thermal resist and still stand up to the damage inflicted by lasers. It also means that most ships can have a slightly lower kinetic resist as long as their explosive resist is equally higher, averaging a solid resist-profile for the damage inflicted by torpedoes.

Second, smaller ships take less damage from torpedoes than larger ships, especially if they are also faster. As such, logistics and strategic cruisers can often get away with slightly lower resists for kinetic and explosive, whereas battleships (especially those with huge signatures) would be better off pushing their kinetic and explosive resists a little bit higher to compensate for taking more damage from torpedoes.

The reason we still use the erroneous ''"70% resists across the board"'' term is that if you have 70% resists in all categories, you're good and there's no risk of anyone getting it wrong thinking you can combine a low EM resist with a high explosive resist.

== Omni tank ==

Just as they do damage across the board, the Sansha incursion rats have omni tanks as well. The only notable exception is the Lirsautton Parichaya, it's a little weaker against thermal damage and stronger against explosive damage. So contrary to missions where Amarr and Gallente weapons are somewhat limited due to their set damage types, these weapons are not hampered by resists in incursions.

Just as they do damage across the board, the Sansha incursion rats have omni tanks as well. The only notable exception is the '''Lirsautton Parichaya''', it's a little weaker against thermal damage and stronger against explosive damage. So contrary to missions where Amarr and Gallente weapons are somewhat limited due to their set damage types, these weapons are not hampered by resists in incursions.

== Applied DPS ==

One of the most important aspects to realize is that whatever ~~dps~~ (damage per second) your favourite third party fitting tool tells you that you have, or whatever the fitting window ingame tells you, is worth nothing if you cannot apply that damage. Hence the term ''"applied ~~dps~~"'' as opposed to ''"paper ~~dps~~"'' which is basically just your potential damage.

One of the most important aspects to realize is that whatever DPS(damage per second) your favourite third party fitting tool tells you that you have, or whatever the fitting window ingame tells you, is worth nothing if you cannot apply that damage. Hence the term ''"applied DPS"'' as opposed to ''"paper DPS"'' which is basically just your potential damage.

Your velocity, your target's velocity, approach vectors, your gun's signature resolution, your target's ship signature, locking speed, locking range, your weapon's optimal and falloff range and tracking all play a vital part in how much of your damage you'll be able to apply on your enemy. See [[Turret Damage|turret damage]] for a more comprehensive introduction to the factors determining how much damage you'll end up doing when you undock and leave your bubble.

Your velocity, your target's velocity, approach vectors, your gun's signature resolution, your target's ship signature, locking speed, locking range, your weapon's optimal and falloff range and tracking all play a vital part in how much of your damage you'll be able to apply on your enemy. See [[Turret Damage|turret damage]] or the [[Gunnery Guide‎]] for a more comprehensive introduction to the factors determining how much damage you'll end up doing when you undock and leave your theoretical bubble.

Practically this means that utility modules often make or break fleets.

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 Incursion fleets rely on good resists and buffer supported by a logistics. There are simply too many enemies to be able to fit a strong enough local tank, not to mention that by sacrificing a small portion of your fleet to bring in logistics instead of more damage dealers, the rest of the damage dealers can fit more offensive modules and your fleet will perform better.
-Once you have a good enough tank, the rest of your spare slots should be used to augment your damage potential. While there's such a thing as under-tanked, being over-tanked is not only wasteful in incursions but even dangerous if done at the cost of offense.
+Once you have a good enough tank, the rest of your spare slots should be used to augment your damage potential. While there's such a thing as under-tanked, being over-tanked is not only wasteful in incursions but even dangerous if done at the cost of offence.
 See [[Preparing for Incursions]] for more information about what skills are needed.
 == Omni damage ==
-The Sansha incursion rats deal two types of damages, lasers (EM and thermal) and torpedoes (kinetic and explosive). As such, they hit across all four resist types and all incursion fits must reflect that. In general we use a rather erroneous term ''"70% resists across the board"'' when we tell people what their resists should be. It is important to know that there is more to it than that.
+The Sansha incursion rats deal two types of damages, lasers (EM and thermal) and torpedoes (kinetic and explosive). As such, they hit across all four resist types and therefore all incursion fits have to have even resists. It is important to know that there is more to it than that.
-First of all, it's more of an average resist per type of damage so you can often compensate one resist for the other. The Basilisk for example can leave a reasonable hole in its EM resist thanks to their high thermal resist and still stand up to the damage inflicted by lasers. It also means that most ships can have a slightly lower kinetic resist as long as their explosive resist is equally higher, averaging a solid 70% resist-profile for the damage inflicted by torpedoes.
+First of all, it's more of an average resist per type of damage, so you can often compensate one resist for the other. The Basilisk for example can have a lower EM resist thanks to their higher thermal resist and still stand up to the damage inflicted by lasers. It also means that most ships can have a slightly lower kinetic resist as long as their explosive resist is equally higher, averaging a solid resist-profile for the damage inflicted by torpedoes.
 Second, smaller ships take less damage from torpedoes than larger ships, especially if they are also faster. As such, logistics and strategic cruisers can often get away with slightly lower resists for kinetic and explosive, whereas battleships (especially those with huge signatures) would be better off pushing their kinetic and explosive resists a little bit higher to compensate for taking more damage from torpedoes.
-The reason we still use the erroneous ''"70% resists across the board"'' term is that if you have 70% resists in all categories, you're good and there's no risk of anyone getting it wrong thinking you can combine a low EM resist with a high explosive resist.
 == Omni tank ==
-Just as they do damage across the board, the Sansha incursion rats have omni tanks as well. The only notable exception is the Lirsautton Parichaya, it's a little weaker against thermal damage and stronger against explosive damage. So contrary to missions where Amarr and Gallente weapons are somewhat limited due to their set damage types, these weapons are not hampered by resists in incursions.
+Just as they do damage across the board, the Sansha incursion rats have omni tanks as well. The only notable exception is the '''Lirsautton Parichaya''', it's a little weaker against thermal damage and stronger against explosive damage. So contrary to missions where Amarr and Gallente weapons are somewhat limited due to their set damage types, these weapons are not hampered by resists in incursions.
 == Applied DPS ==
-One of the most important aspects to realize is that whatever dps (damage per second) your favourite third party fitting tool tells you that you have, or whatever the fitting window ingame tells you, is worth nothing if you cannot apply that damage. Hence the term ''"applied dps"'' as opposed to ''"paper dps"'' which is basically just your potential damage.
+One of the most important aspects to realize is that whatever DPS(damage per second) your favourite third party fitting tool tells you that you have, or whatever the fitting window ingame tells you, is worth nothing if you cannot apply that damage. Hence the term ''"applied DPS"'' as opposed to ''"paper DPS"'' which is basically just your potential damage.
-Your velocity, your target's velocity, approach vectors, your gun's signature resolution, your target's ship signature, locking speed, locking range, your weapon's optimal and falloff range and tracking all play a vital part in how much of your damage you'll be able to apply on your enemy. See [[Turret Damage|turret damage]] for a more comprehensive introduction to the factors determining how much damage you'll end up doing when you undock and leave your bubble.
+Your velocity, your target's velocity, approach vectors, your gun's signature resolution, your target's ship signature, locking speed, locking range, your weapon's optimal and falloff range and tracking all play a vital part in how much of your damage you'll be able to apply on your enemy. See [[Turret Damage|turret damage]] or the [[Gunnery Guide‎]] for a more comprehensive introduction to the factors determining how much damage you'll end up doing when you undock and leave your theoretical bubble.
 Practically this means that utility modules often make or break fleets.