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== Salvaging Science ==

:''This section is taken from the [[Salvaging 101]] class.''

All wrecks have a base access percentage, which is likelihood (for each cycle of your salvaging module) that you will successfully salvage the wreck.

~~As with every other thing in EVE, there are numbers involved.~~

All wrecks have a base access percentage ~~- the~~ likelihood that you will successfully salvage the wreck.

*Small basic wrecks (Frigates and Destroyers) have a base access of 30%

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*Large basic wrecks (Battleships) have a base access of 10%

*Small advanced wrecks (Wormhole NPCs, Faction or officer NPCs, or T2 player ships) have a base access of 0%

*A Sleeper Large Advanced Wreck has an Access Difficulty Base of -20.

*A Sleeper Large Advanced Wreck has an Access Difficulty Base of -20%.

Base access can be modified by salvaging skill level, and using rigs, implants, and tech II salvaging modules.

Each level of the {{sk|Salvaging|icon=yes}} skill with a Salvager I module improves your access chance by 5% per level (up to +25% at level V). Once you have trained {{sk|Salvaging|V}}, you can use the Salvager II module, which improves your base access by 7% per level (up to +35% at level V).

Salvage Tackle I rigs improve your access chance by 10% each. Salvage Tackle II improve your access chance by 15% each, but they are hideously expensive and usually not worth the additional investment unless you plan to do a ''lot'' of salvaging.

~~Base~~ access ~~can be modified by salvaging skill level, and using rigs~~, ~~implants~~ and ~~tech II salvaging~~ modules.

The Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPY-1 [[implant]] (it fits into slot 9) improves your access chance 5%. The Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPZ-1 implant (it fits into slot 10) reduces cycle time of salvage, hacking and archaeology modules by 5%.

~~Each salvaging skill level with a Salvager I module raises base~~ access by 5% ~~per~~ level~~. Note that~~ a ~~higher salvaging skill does not give you better salvage~~. ~~It just makes it more likely for you~~ to ~~succeed~~.

If you're using [[Drone#Salvage_drones|Salvage Drones]], their access chance is 3%, and is increased by 2% for each level you have trained in the {{sk|Salvage Drone Operation|icon=yes}} skill (up to a maximum of 13% at level V). This means they should be able to open anything except Sleeper Large Advanced Wrecks.

~~Salvaging V unlocks~~ the ~~Salvager II module, which raises base access~~ by ~~7% per level~~, ~~and also extends salvaging range~~ to 6,~~000 meters~~.

Note that the chance to salvage is not affected by [[stacking penalties]]. Also, improving your chance to salvage does ''not'' give you better salvage; it merely reduces the number of cycles it takes you to salvage a wreck (or, in the case of very difficult wrecks, allows you to salvage them at all).

~~Salvage Tackle~~ I ~~rigs raise base access by 10~~% ~~each. Salvage Tackle II rigs raise base access by 15~~% each, ~~but they are hideously expensive and usually not worth~~ the ~~additional investment unless you plan to do a LOT of salvaging~~.

{{example|1=A beginner salvaging pilot trains {{sk|Salvaging|I}}, fits her ship with a single Salvager, and tries to salvage a small basic wreck. Her Salvager I module and her skills give her a 30% + (1 * 5%) = 35% chance to salvage the wreck on each cycle of her salvager module (10 seconds); therefore, on average, it will take 3 cycles (30 seconds) to salvage the wreck.<ref>For details on the math, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value expected value] on Wikipedia</ref>.

~~The Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPY~~-1 ~~implant raises base access by~~ 5% - it ~~fits~~ into ~~slot 9. The Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPZ~~-1 ~~implant reduces cycle time of salvage~~, ~~hacking~~ and ~~archaeology modules by~~ 5% - ~~it fits into slot 10~~.

Buoyed by her initial success, the pilot heads to more remote areas of space, and encounters large basic wrecks. Her chance to salvage these is 10% + (1 * 5%) = 15%; therefore, on average, it will take 7 cycles (1 minute and 10 seconds) to salvage each wreck. Heading deeper into space, she encounters small advanced wrecks (chance to salvage 0% + (1 * 5%) = 5%, taking 15 cycles (2.5 minutes) on average) and even some sleeper large advanced wrecks (chance to salvage -20% + (1 * 5%) = -5%; she will not be able to salvage these wrecks).

~~If you're using Salvage Drones~~, ~~the base~~ salvage ~~chance~~ is 3%~~. This is increased by 2~~% ~~per level for the "Salvage Drone Operation" skill~~, up to a ~~maximum of 13% at Salvage Drone Operation V. This means they should be able~~ to ~~open anything except Sleeper Large Advanced Wrecks~~.

She thinks this is taking far too long, trains up her Salvaging skill to level V, and installs a Salvager II module. With this setup, her chance to salvage a large basic wreck is 10% + (5 * 7%) = 45%; on average, it will take her 2 cycles (20 seconds) to salvage. Even a sleeper large advanced wreck succumbs to her salvaging powers, within 7 cycles on average.}}

== Salvaging and the Law ==

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 == Salvaging Science  ==
 :''This section is taken from the [[Salvaging 101]] class.''
+All wrecks have a base access percentage, which is likelihood (for each cycle of your salvaging module) that you will successfully salvage the wreck.
-As with every other thing in EVE, there are numbers involved.
-All wrecks have a base access percentage - the likelihood that you will successfully salvage the wreck.
 *Small basic wrecks (Frigates and Destroyers) have a base access of 30%
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 *Large basic wrecks (Battleships) have a base access of 10%
 *Small advanced wrecks (Wormhole NPCs, Faction or officer NPCs, or T2 player ships) have a base access of 0%
-*A Sleeper Large Advanced Wreck has an Access Difficulty Base of -20.
+*A Sleeper Large Advanced Wreck has an Access Difficulty Base of -20%.
+Base access can be modified by salvaging skill level, and using rigs, implants, and tech II salvaging modules.
+Each level of the {{sk|Salvaging|icon=yes}} skill with a Salvager I module improves your access chance by 5% per level (up to +25% at level V). Once you have trained {{sk|Salvaging|V}}, you can use the Salvager II module, which improves your base access by 7% per level (up to +35% at level V).
+Salvage Tackle I rigs improve your access chance by 10% each. Salvage Tackle II improve your access chance by 15% each, but they are hideously expensive and usually not worth the additional investment unless you plan to do a ''lot'' of salvaging.
-Base access can be modified by salvaging skill level, and using rigs, implants and tech II salvaging modules.
+The Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPY-1 [[implant]] (it fits into slot 9) improves your access chance 5%. The Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPZ-1 implant (it fits into slot 10) reduces cycle time of salvage, hacking and archaeology modules by 5%.
-Each salvaging skill level with a Salvager I module raises base access by 5% per level. Note that a higher salvaging skill does not give you better salvage. It just makes it more likely for you to succeed.
+If you're using [[Drone#Salvage_drones|Salvage Drones]], their access chance is 3%, and is increased by 2% for each level you have trained in the {{sk|Salvage Drone Operation|icon=yes}} skill (up to a maximum of 13% at level V). This means they should be able to open anything except Sleeper Large Advanced Wrecks.
-Salvaging V unlocks the Salvager II module, which raises base access by 7% per level, and also extends salvaging range to 6,000 meters.
+Note that the chance to salvage is not affected by [[stacking penalties]]. Also, improving your chance to salvage does ''not'' give you better salvage; it merely reduces the number of cycles it takes you to salvage a wreck (or, in the case of very difficult wrecks, allows you to salvage them at all).
-Salvage Tackle I rigs raise base access by 10% each. Salvage Tackle II rigs raise base access by 15% each, but they are hideously expensive and usually not worth the additional investment unless you plan to do a LOT of salvaging.
+{{example|1=A beginner salvaging pilot trains {{sk|Salvaging|I}}, fits her ship with a single Salvager, and tries to salvage a small basic wreck. Her Salvager I module and her skills give her a <span style="white-space:nowrap;">30% + (1 * 5%) = 35%</span> chance to salvage the wreck on each cycle of her salvager module (10 seconds); therefore, on average, it will take 3 cycles (30 seconds) to salvage the wreck.<ref>For details on the math, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value expected value] on Wikipedia</ref>.
-The Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPY-1 implant raises base access by 5% - it fits into slot 9. The Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPZ-1 implant reduces cycle time of salvage, hacking and archaeology modules by 5% - it fits into slot 10.
+Buoyed by her initial success, the pilot heads to more remote areas of space, and encounters large basic wrecks. Her chance to salvage these is <span style="white-space:nowrap;">10% + (1 * 5%) = 15%</span>; therefore, on average, it will take 7 cycles (1 minute and 10 seconds) to salvage each wreck. Heading deeper into space, she encounters small advanced wrecks (chance to salvage <span style="white-space:nowrap;">0% + (1 * 5%) = 5%</span>, taking 15 cycles (2.5 minutes) on average) and even some sleeper large advanced wrecks (chance to salvage <span style="white-space:nowrap;">-20% + (1 * 5%) = -5%</span>; she will not be able to salvage these wrecks).
-If you're using Salvage Drones, the base salvage chance is 3%. This is increased by 2% per level for the "Salvage Drone Operation" skill, up to a maximum of 13% at Salvage Drone Operation V. This means they should be able to open anything except Sleeper Large Advanced Wrecks.
+She thinks this is taking far too long, trains up her Salvaging skill to level V, and installs a Salvager II module. With this setup, her chance to salvage a large basic wreck is <span style="white-space:nowrap;">10% + (5 * 7%) = 45%</span>; on average, it will take her 2 cycles (20 seconds) to salvage. Even a sleeper large advanced wreck succumbs to her salvaging powers, within 7 cycles on average.}}
 == Salvaging and the Law ==