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[[Category:Industry]]

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Industry is an expansive topic within Eve and to newer players it can be overwhelming~~, as well as the possibility of being easily exploited by dubious players~~.

Industry is an expansive topic within Eve and to newer players it can be overwhelming. This page provides an overview of some of the Industry-related pages in this wiki.

~~Seeing as entire books can be written on this subject, topics have been split into small chunks, so it can be easily absorbed, and to prevent~~ an ~~information overload.~~

~~Below is a catalog~~ of ~~topics, that start from~~ the ~~easiest aspects of industry, and culminate~~ in ~~the more difficult, and cost heavy areas~~.

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== Mining ==

Mining is the profession of extracting ore from asteroids; these ores can then be refined into minerals ~~which in turn~~ are ~~used in~~ the ~~production~~ of all ~~player created items~~ in EVE~~, such as ships and modules~~. It is one of the few professions that is immediately available to beginning players and most EVE industrialists started their careers by mining. Mining is perhaps the most economically safe professions in EVE; losing mining ships or being podded is uncommon and minerals are always in demand. ~~In its simplest form, mining can be accomplished by finding an asteroid site in a system and mining its asteroids with mining lasers.~~

[[Mining]] is the profession of extracting ore from asteroids; these ores can then be refined into minerals that are the basis of all production in EVE. It is one of the few professions that is immediately available to beginning players and most EVE industrialists started their careers by mining. Mining is perhaps the most economically safe professions in EVE; losing mining ships or being podded is uncommon and minerals are always in demand. Your greatest threat is often "[[Can Flipping|Can Flippers]]" - make sure you understand their motives and how to deal with them.

~~=== Before you start ===~~

~~The foundations of mining, and where to start~~ is ~~here:~~ [[~~Mining | Mining]]~~

Can Flipping ~~is an issue that we have so look [[Can_Flipping~~ | ~~here~~]]

The following is a good plan for creating a new alt with the skills to fly an [[Exhumers|Exhumer]] within the introductory 51 days of an activated 'buddy account'. It can also be used as a guide for what skills a player would need to develop to be able to start flying higher-~~level mining ships: [[Creating_an_Alt_Miner|Creating an Alt Miner]]~~

~~=== The Beginning ===~~

So you ~~want try you hand at mining,~~ and ~~want~~ to ~~get out of your 'noob' ship, so why not try here: [[Mining Ships]]~~

~~So you have tried mining and have got a taste for it, lets try out a: [[Mining_Barges|Mining Barge]]~~

~~Want a simple technique to increase your mining yield, that anyone can do? Then why not try:[[Cooperative_Mining_Guide | Mining~~ with ~~others]]~~

~~=== Advanced ===~~

~~There's just no stopping you is there! You want more more more! Well how about: [[ An Exhumer]]~~

~~Its time for the final step, you want to become a mining fleet master and for that you might just want: [[Orca_Guide | An Orca]]~~

~~And what about something different, then try [[Ice_Mining | Ice Mining]]~~

~~And in wormhole space and 0.0, there's [[Gas_Cloud_Mining | Gas Mining]]~~

~~Heading into unprotected Low Sec space, then you will have to read [[Ivy_League_Policies#HiSec.2C_LoSec.2C_NPC_NullSec.2C_Claimable_NullSec_and_W-space| this]]~~

Wanting to play in the null sec sandbox, then without a doubt read [[Ivy_League_Policies#HiSec.2C_LoSec.2C_NPC_NullSec.2C_Claimable_NullSec_and_W-space|this]] to find which areas you are allowed to go as an E-Uni member and to increase your chances of survival

And finally if you want to know everything, down to the EXACT numbers then this guide written by Halada has been helping out miners for many years [http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=434899 Halada's Complete Miner's Guide]

~~== Refining ==~~

~~In the beginning, '''DO NOT REFINE - KEEP STACKING.'''~~

As a new player your skills and corporation standing will be so low that the wastage would be very high. You could earn more money by selling the ore raw if you needed the money straight away. If not get someone else who has perfect refine AND that you fully trust, to refine them ~~for you. If not, keep stacking~~.

~~=== How to refine ===~~

~~[[Refining]]~~

~~=== Refining Stations ===~~

Most miners start with basic mining [[Mining Ships|frigates and cruisers]], before progressing on to [[Mining Barges]] and [[Exhumers]]. After that, a lot of players move on to flying an [[Orca_Guide | Orca]], perfecting their [[refining]] skills, or perfecting their mining skills. Many miners move on to [[Ice Mining|ice]] or [[Gas Cloud Mining|gas]] mining. If you're thinking of heading into low/nullsec space, then make sure you understand the [[Ivy_League_Policies#HiSec.2C_LoSec.2C_NPC_NullSec.2C_Claimable_NullSec_and_W-space|University's policies]] and know which areas you are allowed to go as a neutral E-Uni member and to increase your chances of survival.

[[~~Mining_in_the_Apetter_Constellation~~ | ~~Refining stations in~~ the ~~Apetter Constellation~~]]

"[[Creating_an_Alt_Miner|Creating an Alt Miner]]" is a good plan for creating a new alt with the skills to fly an [[Exhumers|Exhumer]] within the introductory 51 days of an activated 'buddy account'. It can also be used as a guide for what skills a player would need to develop to be able to start flying higher-level mining ships, although you need to be able to afford some expensive skills and implants up front to get the best out of it.

==~~= Players Who offer Perfect Refine Services ===~~

[http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=434899 Halada's Complete Miner's Guide] is a reference source for most mining information, with the mathematical foundations and most topics of mining covered in good detail.

[[Perfect Refine List]]

=== Refining ===

As a new miner, be wary of [[refining]] ore for yourself. As a new player, your skills and corporation standing will be so low that the refining wastage is very high. You should check if you could earn more money by selling the ore raw, and the best option is to get someone else - who has [[Perfect Refine List|perfect refine]] - to refine them for you. If not, keep stacking. If you have access to a [[POS Refining|POS to refine with]] then some modules will give a higher base refine, allowing you to refine perfectly with lesser skills.

~~=== POS Refining ===~~

~~[[POS_Refining | POS Refining]]~~

== Manufacturing ==

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* Datacores (used for T2 and T3 research; obtained in a time-limited way from R&D agents/missions).

* Containers (seeded to stations).

* ~~Meta-1 through Meta-4 modules (loot from missions).~~

* Named/Officer/Deadspace modules (loot from missions).

* Officer/~~deadspace~~ modules (loot from missions).

Faction items (Caldari Navy Raven, etc.) are a mix of player and NPC production -- some items can be purchased through LP stores as blueprints.

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 [[Category:Industry]]
+[[Category:Guides]]
 <div style="margin-bottom:1em; padding:.5em; font-weight:bold; text-align:center; border:1px solid #000000; background: #ff9933; width:auto; ">This page is a work in progress. Please feel free to contribute.</div>
-Industry is an expansive topic within Eve and to newer players it can be overwhelming, as well as the possibility of being easily exploited by dubious players.
+Industry is an expansive topic within Eve and to newer players it can be overwhelming. This page provides an overview of some of the Industry-related pages in this wiki.
-Seeing as entire books can be written on this subject, topics have been split into small chunks,  so it can be easily absorbed, and to prevent an information overload.
-Below is a catalog of topics, that start from the easiest aspects of industry, and culminate in the more difficult, and cost heavy areas.
 {| align="right" margin="15px"
 | __TOC__
 |}
 == Mining ==
-Mining is the profession of extracting ore from asteroids; these ores can then be refined into minerals which in turn are used in the production of all player created items in EVE, such as ships and modules. It is one of the few professions that is immediately available to beginning players and most EVE industrialists started their careers by mining. Mining is perhaps the most economically safe professions in EVE; losing mining ships or being podded is uncommon and minerals are always in demand. In its simplest form, mining can be accomplished by finding an asteroid site in a system and mining its asteroids with mining lasers.
+[[Mining]] is the profession of extracting ore from asteroids; these ores can then be refined into minerals that are the basis of all production in EVE. It is one of the few professions that is immediately available to beginning players and most EVE industrialists started their careers by mining. Mining is perhaps the most economically safe professions in EVE; losing mining ships or being podded is uncommon and minerals are always in demand. Your greatest threat is often "[[Can Flipping|Can Flippers]]" - make sure you understand their motives and how to deal with them.
-=== Before you start ===
-The foundations of mining, and where to start is here: [[Mining | Mining]]
-Can Flipping is an issue that we have so look [[Can_Flipping | here]]
-The following is a good plan for creating a new alt with the skills to fly an [[Exhumers|Exhumer]] within the introductory 51 days of an activated 'buddy account'. It can also be used as a guide for what skills a player would need to develop to be able to start flying higher-level mining ships: [[Creating_an_Alt_Miner|Creating an Alt Miner]]
-=== The Beginning ===
-So you want try you hand at mining, and want to get out of your 'noob' ship, so why not try here: [[Mining Ships]]
-So you have tried mining and have got a taste for it, lets try out a: [[Mining_Barges|Mining Barge]]
-Want a simple technique to increase your mining yield, that anyone can do? Then why not try:[[Cooperative_Mining_Guide | Mining with others]]
-=== Advanced ===
-There's just no stopping you is there! You want more more more! Well how about: [[ An Exhumer]]
-Its time for the final step, you want to become a mining fleet master and for that you might just want: [[Orca_Guide | An Orca]]
-And what about something different, then try [[Ice_Mining | Ice Mining]]
-And in wormhole space and 0.0, there's [[Gas_Cloud_Mining | Gas Mining]]
-Heading into unprotected Low Sec space, then you will have to read [[Ivy_League_Policies#HiSec.2C_LoSec.2C_NPC_NullSec.2C_Claimable_NullSec_and_W-space| this]]
-Wanting to play in the null sec sandbox, then without a doubt read [[Ivy_League_Policies#HiSec.2C_LoSec.2C_NPC_NullSec.2C_Claimable_NullSec_and_W-space|this]] to find which areas you are allowed to go as an E-Uni member and to increase your chances of survival
-And finally if you want to know everything, down to the EXACT numbers then this guide written by Halada has been helping out miners for many years [http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=434899 Halada's Complete Miner's Guide]
-== Refining ==
-In the beginning, '''DO NOT REFINE - KEEP STACKING.'''
-As a new player your skills and corporation standing will be so low that the wastage would be very high. You could earn more money by selling the ore raw if you needed the money straight away. If not get someone else who has perfect refine AND that you fully trust, to refine them for you. If not, keep stacking.
-=== How to refine ===
-[[Refining]]
-=== Refining Stations ===
+Most miners start with basic mining [[Mining Ships|frigates and cruisers]], before progressing on to [[Mining Barges]] and [[Exhumers]]. After that, a lot of players move on to flying an [[Orca_Guide | Orca]], perfecting their [[refining]] skills, or perfecting their mining skills. Many miners move on to [[Ice Mining|ice]] or [[Gas Cloud Mining|gas]] mining. If you're thinking of heading into low/nullsec space, then make sure you understand the [[Ivy_League_Policies#HiSec.2C_LoSec.2C_NPC_NullSec.2C_Claimable_NullSec_and_W-space|University's policies]] and know which areas you are allowed to go as a neutral E-Uni member and to increase your chances of survival.
-[[Mining_in_the_Apetter_Constellation | Refining stations in the Apetter Constellation]]
+"[[Creating_an_Alt_Miner|Creating an Alt Miner]]" is a good plan for creating a new alt with the skills to fly an [[Exhumers|Exhumer]] within the introductory 51 days of an activated 'buddy account'. It can also be used as a guide for what skills a player would need to develop to be able to start flying higher-level mining ships, although you need to be able to afford some expensive skills and implants up front to get the best out of it.
-=== Players Who offer Perfect Refine Services ===
+[http://www.eveonline.com/iNgameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=434899 Halada's Complete Miner's Guide] is a reference source for most mining information, with the mathematical foundations and most topics of mining covered in good detail.
-[[Perfect Refine List]]
+=== Refining ===
+As a new miner, be wary of [[refining]] ore for yourself. As a new player, your skills and corporation standing will be so low that the refining wastage is very high. You should check if you could earn more money by selling the ore raw, and the best option is to get someone else - who has [[Perfect Refine List|perfect refine]] -  to refine them for you. If not, keep stacking. If you have access to a [[POS Refining|POS to refine with]] then some modules will give a higher base refine, allowing you to refine perfectly with lesser skills.
-=== POS Refining ===
-[[POS_Refining | POS Refining]]
 == Manufacturing ==
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 * Datacores (used for T2 and T3 research; obtained in a time-limited way from R&D agents/missions).
 * Containers (seeded to stations).
-* Meta-1 through Meta-4 modules (loot from missions).
+* Named/Officer/Deadspace modules (loot from missions).
-* Officer/deadspace modules (loot from missions).
 Faction items (Caldari Navy Raven, etc.) are a mix of player and NPC production -- some items can be purchased through LP stores as blueprints.