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'''''Stuck in station, unable to purchase the items you need?''''' <br>
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'''''Stuck in station, unable to purchase the items you need?''''' <br> '''''Looking at hauling as a means to running trade routes?'''''  
'''''Looking at hauling as a means to running trade routes?'''''
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Hauling can be a great way to earn ISK doing [[Using EVE-Central to haul profitably|profitable trade runs]]. By reading this guide, you will learn how to create the quickest, most efficient hauler. This guide can be considered a current, text version of the [http://classes.eve-ivy.com/ Alt Hauling 101] audio class.
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Our goal is to be able to haul the most amount of stuff (measured in m<sup>3</sup>) in the least amount of time from a new character's perspective. In doing this task, [http://evemon.battleclinic.com/ EVEMon] is your friend, and this guide basically shows you some career paths that you can then customize. The route you take depends on the race of the character, as all characters now start with minimal skills but those include racial frigate skills.
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''Note: You cannot train these skills (Racial Industrial) on Trial accounts.''
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== Hauler Table  ==
  
Hauling can be a great way to earn ISK doing [[Using_EVE-Central_to_haul_profitably|profitable trade runs]]. By reading this guide, you will learn how to create the quickest, most efficient hauler. This guide can be considered a current, text version of the [http://classes.eve-ivy.com/ Alt Hauling 101] audio class.
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Here is a simple table of Haulers and their cargohold capacity in m<sup>3</sup> with minimal skills and full Expanded Cargohold IIs (plus 3x T1 Cargo Rigs):  
  
Our goal is to be able to haul the most amount of stuff (measured in m3) in the least amount of time from a new character's perspective. In doing this task, [http://evemon.battleclinic.com/ EVEMon] is your friend, and this guide basically shows you some career paths that you can then customize. The route you take depends on the race of the character, as all characters now start with minimal skills but those include racial frigate skills.
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''Note: You cannot train these skills (Racial Industrial) on Trial accounts.''
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'''Ship'''  
  
==Hauler Table==
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Here is a simple table of Haulers and their cargohold capacity in m^3 with minimal skills and full Expanded Cargohold IIs (plus 3x T1 Cargo Rigs):
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'''Cargo m<sup>3</sup>'''
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'''Race'''
  
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! Cargo m^3
 
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| Bestower || align="right" | 13,319 (20,257) || Amarr
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| bgcolor="#333333" | Bestower<br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | 13,319 (20,257) <br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | Amarr<br>
 
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| Mammoth || align="right" | 17,838 (27,129) || Minmatar
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| bgcolor="#333333" | Mammoth<br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | 17,838 (27,129)<br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | Minmatar<br>
 
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| Iteron Mark IV || align="right" | 13,058 (19,859) || Gallente
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| bgcolor="#333333" | Iteron Mark IV<br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | 13,058 (19,859) <br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | Gallente<br>
 
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| Iteron Mark V || align="right" | 25,270 (38,433) || Gallente
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| bgcolor="#333333" | Iteron Mark V <br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | 25,270 (38,433) <br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | Gallente<br>
 
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| Badger || align="right" | 7,041 (10,708) || Caldari
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| bgcolor="#333333" | Badger <br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | 7,041 (10,708) <br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | Caldari<br>
 
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| Badger Mark II || align="right" | 12,514 (19,032) || Caldari
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| bgcolor="#333333" | Badger Mark II<br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | 12,514 (19,032)<br>
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| bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | Caldari<br>
 
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== Creating a Bestower Pilot ==
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=== Create an Amarr Character ===
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The best route to take is to create an Amarr character to fly the [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bestower Bestower], which can haul over 13,000 m3 with a minimally trained set of skills!
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== Creating a Bestower Pilot ==
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=== Create an Amarr Character ===
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The best route to take is to create an Amarr character to fly the [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bestower Bestower], which can haul over 13,000 m<sup>3</sup> with a minimally trained set of skills!  
  
Obviously, since we want to fly the Amarr Bestower most quickly, you will create an Amarr character. This is the only option that makes any difference from a gameplay perspective, as it affects your starting racial skills (namely, your racial Frigate skill).
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Obviously, since we want to fly the Amarr Bestower most quickly, you will create an Amarr character. This is the only option that makes any difference from a gameplay perspective, as it affects your starting racial skills (namely, your racial Frigate skill).  
  
Next, you'll have the ability to chose your bloodline and ancestry. These do not make any difference to the stats you will start with, but they will change your starting appearance and the location your character starts.
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Next, you'll have the ability to chose your bloodline and ancestry. These do not make any difference to the stats you will start with, but they will change your starting appearance and the location your character starts.  
  
=== Pause Training ===
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=== Pause Training ===
If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, only one character can be training skills at a time. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.
 
  
=== Skill Books ===
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If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, only one character can be training skills at a time. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.
Now, your new avatar will start out flat broke. Therefore, you will need to send the alt some ISK to buy the following skillbooks in the starting station:
 
  
* Amarr Industrial (270,000)
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=== Skill Books  ===
* Hull Upgrades (54,000)
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* Jury Rigging (54,000) (optional)
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Now, your new avatar will start out flat broke. Therefore, you will need to send the alt some ISK to buy the following skillbooks in the starting station:
* Astronautics Rigging (18,000) (optional)
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*Amarr Industrial (270,000)  
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*Hull Upgrades (54,000)  
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*Jury Rigging (54,000) (optional)  
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*Astronautics Rigging (18,000) (optional)  
 
**Total: 324,000 (optional: 396,000) ISK
 
**Total: 324,000 (optional: 396,000) ISK
  
==== Neural Remap ====
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==== Neural Remap ====
You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. If you choose to remap then remember to do so before you start training to maximize the benefit of the remap.
 
  
*Maximize Perception
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You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. If you choose to remap then remember to do so before you start training to maximize the benefit of the remap.
*Minimize Intelligence, Memory, and Charisma
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*Maximize Perception  
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*Minimize Intelligence, Memory, and Charisma  
 
*Remaining points into Willpower
 
*Remaining points into Willpower
  
=== Training Plan for Bestower ===
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=== Training Plan for Bestower ===
You will be flying the Bestower in under 12 hours (half a day) if you go this route!
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You will be flying the Bestower in under 12 hours (half a day) if you go this route!  
  
#Amarr Frigate III
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#Amarr Frigate III  
#Amarr Industrial I
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#Amarr Industrial I  
#Hull Upgrades I
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#Hull Upgrades I  
 
#Hull Upgrades II
 
#Hull Upgrades II
  
When it is done, you will be able to pilot a Bestower that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs.
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When it is done, you will be able to pilot a Bestower that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs.  
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== Creating a Mammoth Pilot  ==
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=== Create a Minmatar Character  ===
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Although Bestower is a great hauler with a short training plan, its cargo capacity falls far short of fitting a full jetcan of ore. Meaning that it requires additional trips, therefore wasting time when you could do other things. This is where the [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Mammoth Mammoth] comes in, with just rigs and Expanded Cargohold IIs, it has around 27,000m<sup>3</sup> cargo capacity. Although it is a few hundred m<sup>3</sup> fall short of a few jetcan, you can easily exceed that with GSCs.
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Similar to creating a Bestower pilot, it is recommended to to create a Minmatar character as it will have Minmatar Frigate II already trained and saves us some time. Yet again the bloodline and ancestry will have minimal impact on the training time, especially if you choose to do a neural remap.
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=== Pause Training  ===
  
== Creating a Mammoth Pilot ==
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If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, only one character can be training skills at a time. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.  
=== Create a Minmatar Character ===
 
Although Bestower is a great hauler with a short training plan, its cargo capacity falls far short of fitting a full jetcan of ore. Meaning that it requires additional trips, therefore wasting time when you could do other things. This is where the [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Mammoth Mammoth] comes in, with just rigs and Expanded Cargohold IIs, it has around 27,000m3 cargo capacity. Although it is a few hundred m3 fall short of a few jetcan, you can easily exceed that with GSCs.
 
  
Similar to creating a Bestower pilot, it is recommended to to create a Minmatar character as it will have Minmatar Frigate II already trained and saves us some time. Yet again the bloodline and ancestry will have minimal impact on the training time, especially if you choose to do a neural remap.
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=== Skill Books ===
  
=== Pause Training ===
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Now, your new avatar will start out flat broke. You will need to send the alt some ISK to buy the following skillbooks in the starting station:
If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, only one character can be training skills at a time. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.
 
  
=== Skill Books ===
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*Learning (31,500)
Now, your new avatar will start out flat broke. You will need to send the alt some ISK to buy the following skillbooks in the starting station:
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*Spatial Awareness (45,000)
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*Iron Will (45,000)
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*Hull Upgrades (54,000)
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*Minmatar Industrial (270,000)
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*Jury Rigging (54,000) (optional)
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*Astronautics Rigging (18,000) (optional)
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**Total: 445,500 (optional: 517,500) ISK
  
* Learning (31,500)
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==== Neural Remap  ====
* Spatial Awareness (45,000)
 
* Iron Will (45,000)
 
* Hull Upgrades (54,000)
 
* Minmatar Industrial (270,000)
 
* Jury Rigging (54,000) (optional)
 
* Astronautics Rigging (18,000) (optional)
 
** Total: 445,500 (optional: 517,500) ISK
 
  
==== Neural Remap ====
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You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. If you choose to remap then remember to do so before you start training to maximize the benefit of the remap.  
You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. If you choose to remap then remember to do so before you start training to maximize the benefit of the remap.
 
  
*Maximize Perception
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*Maximize Perception  
*Minimize Intelligence, Memory, and Charisma
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*Minimize Intelligence, Memory, and Charisma  
 
*Remaining points into Willpower
 
*Remaining points into Willpower
  
=== Training Plan for Mammoth ===
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=== Training Plan for Mammoth ===
If you use a remap and follow this plan, you should be able to pilot a Mammoth around 3 days 4 hours 27 minutes.
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If you use a remap and follow this plan, you should be able to pilot a Mammoth around 3 days 4 hours 27 minutes.  
  
#Learning I
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#Learning I  
#Learning II
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#Learning II  
#Spatial Awareness I
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#Spatial Awareness I  
#Spatial Awareness II
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#Spatial Awareness II  
#Iron Will I
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#Iron Will I  
#Iron Will II
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#Iron Will II  
#Hull Upgrades I
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#Hull Upgrades I  
#Hull Upgrades II
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#Hull Upgrades II  
#Minmatar Frigate III
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#Minmatar Frigate III  
#Minmatar Industrial I
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#Minmatar Industrial I  
#Minmatar Industrial II
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#Minmatar Industrial II  
#Minmatar Industrial III
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#Minmatar Industrial III  
 
#Minmatar Industrial IV
 
#Minmatar Industrial IV
  
When it is done, you swill be able to pilot a Mammoth that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs.
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When it is done, you swill be able to pilot a Mammoth that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs.
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== Creating a Iteron Mark V Pilot  ==
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=== Create a Gallente Character  ===
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As you can see in the Hauler table [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Iteron_Mark_V Iteron Mark V] has the largest cargohold of all industrials. But on the flip side it also takes the longest to train for. Therefore if you are into piloting the biggest, most spacious ship and don't mind the longer training queue, Iteron V is the ship for you. Furthermore, when you are done training for Iteron Mark V, you are within a week's training to the Gallente Freighter [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Obelisk Obelisk].
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Yet again, it is recommended to create a Gallente character to save us some time not having to train Gallente Frigate II. The bloodline and ancestry will have minimal impact on the training time, especially if you choose to do a neural remap.  
  
==Creating a Iteron Mark V Pilot ==
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=== Pause Training  ===
=== Create a Gallente Character ===
 
As you can see in the Hauler table [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Iteron_Mark_V Iteron Mark V] has the largest cargohold of all industrials. But on the flip side it also takes the longest to train for. Therefore if you are into piloting the biggest, most spacious ship and don't mind the longer training queue, Iteron V is the ship for you. Furthermore, when you are done training for Iteron Mark V, you are within a week's training to the Gallente Freighter [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Obelisk Obelisk].
 
  
Yet again, it is recommended to create a Gallente character to save us some time not having to train Gallente Frigate II. The bloodline and ancestry will have minimal impact on the training time, especially if you choose to do a neural remap.
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If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, only one character can be training skills at a time. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.  
  
=== Pause Training ===
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=== Skill Books  ===
If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, only one character can be training skills at a time. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.
 
  
=== Skill Books ===
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Now, your new avatar will start out flat broke. You will need to send the alt some ISK to buy the following skillbooks in the starting station:  
Now, your new avatar will start out flat broke. You will need to send the alt some ISK to buy the following skillbooks in the starting station:
 
  
* Instant Recall (45,000)
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*Instant Recall (45,000)  
* Analytical Mind (45,000)
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*Analytical Mind (45,000)  
* Learning (31,500)
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*Learning (31,500)  
* Spatial Awareness (45,000)
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*Spatial Awareness (45,000)  
* Iron Will (45,000)
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*Iron Will (45,000)  
* Hull Upgrades (54,000)
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*Hull Upgrades (54,000)  
* Gallente Industrial (270,000)
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*Gallente Industrial (270,000)  
* Cybernetics (67,500) (optional)
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*Cybernetics (67,500) (optional)  
* Jury Rigging (54,000) (optional)
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*Jury Rigging (54,000) (optional)  
* Astronautics Rigging (18,000) (optional)
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*Astronautics Rigging (18,000) (optional)  
** Total: 535,500 (optional: 675,000) ISK
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**Total: 535,500 (optional: 675,000) ISK
  
==== Neural Remap ====
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==== Neural Remap ====
You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. If you choose to remap then remember to do so before you start training to maximize the benefit of the remap.
 
  
*Maximize Perception
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You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. If you choose to remap then remember to do so before you start training to maximize the benefit of the remap.
*Minimize Intelligence, Memory, and Charisma
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*Maximize Perception  
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*Minimize Intelligence, Memory, and Charisma  
 
*Remaining points into Willpower
 
*Remaining points into Willpower
  
=== Using Implants ===
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=== Using Implants ===
Since the training queue can extend over two weeks even with a remap. Therefore it might be worthwhile to consider plugging in some implants. The type of implants that gives maximum benefits are implants that gives bonuses to Perception and Willpower. Here is a table with rough estimates comparing different implant bonuses:
 
  
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Since the training queue can extend over two weeks even with a remap. Therefore it might be worthwhile to consider plugging in some implants. The type of implants that gives maximum benefits are implants that gives bonuses to Perception and Willpower. Here is a table with rough estimates comparing different implant bonuses:<br>
  
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| align="center" | +1 || align="center" | ~2d (~20h) || align="center" | ~575k
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! height="43" bgcolor="#000000" align="center" | Bonuses<br>
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! height="43" bgcolor="#000000" align="center" | Time Reduced (with remap)<br>
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! height="43" bgcolor="#000000" align="center" | Estimated total cost of implants<br>
 
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| align="center" | +2 || align="center" | ~4d (~1d 14h) || align="center" | ~8m
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| height="27" bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | +1<br>
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| height="27" bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | ~2d (~20h) <br>
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| height="27" bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | ~575k<br>
 
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| align="center" | +3 || align="center" | ~5d 14h (~2d 6h) || align="center" | ~20m
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| height="27" bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | +2<br>
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| height="27" bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | ~4d (~1d 14h) <br>
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| height="27" bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | ~8m <br>
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| height="27" bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | +3<br>
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| height="27" bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | ~5d 14h (~2d 6h) <br>
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| height="27" bgcolor="#333333" align="center" | ~20m <br>
 
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Note that the table does not include implants beyond +3s, it is because the additional training time and cost does not justify the benefits.<br>
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=== Training Plan for Iteron Mark V  ===
  
=== Training Plan for Iteron Mark V ===
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If you use a remap with no implants and follow this plan, you should be able to pilot a Iteron Mark V around 15 days 4 hours 54 minutes.  
If you use a remap with no implants and follow this plan, you should be able to pilot a Iteron Mark V around 15 days 4 hours 54 minutes.
 
  
#Instant Recall I
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#Instant Recall I  
#Instant Recall II
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#Instant Recall II  
#Analytical Mind I
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#Analytical Mind I  
#*Spending 15 minutes training it to 1 will cut around 1.5 hours off the queue. Leave it at I for now as further training of this skill will extend the time not shortening it.
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#*Spending 15 minutes training it to 1 will cut around 1.5 hours off the queue. Leave it at I for now as further training of this skill will extend the time not shortening it.  
#Learning I
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#Learning I  
#Learning II
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#Learning II  
#Spatial Awareness I
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#Spatial Awareness I  
#Spatial Awareness II
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#Spatial Awareness II  
#Spatial Awareness III
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#Spatial Awareness III  
#Iron Will I
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#Iron Will I  
#Iron Will II
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#Iron Will II  
#Iron Will III
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#Iron Will III  
#Cybernetics I (optional)
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#Cybernetics I (optional)  
#*Only train Cybernetics if you wish to use implants. When it is done training plug in the implants before continuing to maximize the benefits.
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#*Only train Cybernetics if you wish to use implants. When it is done training plug in the implants before continuing to maximize the benefits.  
#Hull Upgrades I
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#Hull Upgrades I  
#Hull Upgrades II
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#Hull Upgrades II  
#Gallente Frigate III
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#Gallente Frigate III  
#Gallente Industrial II
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#Gallente Industrial II  
#Gallente Industrial II
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#Gallente Industrial II  
#Gallente Industrial III
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#Gallente Industrial III  
#Gallente Industrial IV
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#Gallente Industrial IV  
 
#Gallente Industrial V
 
#Gallente Industrial V
  
When it is done, you will be able to pilot a Iteron Mark V that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs.
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When it is done, you will be able to pilot a Iteron Mark V that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs.  
  
===From Iteron Mark V to Obelisk===
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=== From Iteron Mark V to Obelisk ===
As mentioned earlier, from Iteron Mark V it is an easy train to be able to pilot an Obelisk, a freighter. Do note that a freighter is very expensive (upward to 600m+) and cannot haul cans in space, therefore strictly limited to station to station hauling. But if you choose to train further to be able to pilot the Obelisk, you will need the following skillbooks:
 
  
*Advanced Spaceship Command (45,000,000)
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As mentioned earlier, from Iteron Mark V it is an easy train to be able to pilot an Obelisk, a freighter. Do note that a freighter is very expensive (upward to 600m+) and cannot haul cans in space, therefore strictly limited to station to station hauling. But if you choose to train further to be able to pilot the Obelisk, you will need the following skillbooks:
*Gallente Freighter (67,500,000)
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*Advanced Spaceship Command (45,000,000)  
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*Gallente Freighter (67,500,000)  
 
**Total: 112,500,000 ISK
 
**Total: 112,500,000 ISK
  
=== Training Plan for Obelisk from Iteron Mark V ===
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=== Training Plan for Obelisk from Iteron Mark V ===
If you continue to train to Obelisk from Iteron Mark V, it should take 3 days 12 hours to complete.
 
  
#Spaceship Command IV
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If you continue to train to Obelisk from Iteron Mark V, it should take 3 days 12 hours to complete.
#Spaceship Command V
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#Advanced Spaceship Command I
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#Spaceship Command IV  
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#Spaceship Command V  
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#Advanced Spaceship Command I  
 
#Gallente Freighter I
 
#Gallente Freighter I
  
When it is done, you will be able to pilot an Obelisk.
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When it is done, you will be able to pilot an Obelisk.  
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== Optional Training: Rigging  ==
  
== Optional Training: Rigging ==
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You can increase the carrying capacity of your hauler significantly by fitting it with three Medium Cargohold Optimization I rigs.  
You can increase the carrying capacity of your hauler significantly by fitting it with three Medium Cargohold Optimization I rigs.
 
  
It is important to note that you do not need rigging skills to use rigs that are already installed in a ship. You only require rigging skills to install rigs on ships. Therefore, you can either train the skills yourself or give the ship and rigs to someone you trust with the required skills to install the rigs for you. If you choose to train the required skills then you will need to train the following skills:
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It is important to note that you do not need rigging skills to use rigs that are already installed in a ship. You only require rigging skills to install rigs on ships. Therefore, you can either train the skills yourself or give the ship and rigs to someone you trust with the required skills to install the rigs for you. If you choose to train the required skills then you will need to train the following skills:  
  
*Mechanic III
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*Mechanic III  
*Jury Rigging III
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*Jury Rigging III  
 
*Astronautics Rigging I
 
*Astronautics Rigging I
  
== Fitting Haulers ==
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== Fitting Haulers ==
Haulers are relatively straightforward to fit.For ore hauling, you will want to have maximum cargo capacity, meaning you want to fit Expanded Cargoholds in low slots and Cargohold Optimization in rigs.
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Haulers are relatively straightforward to fit.For ore hauling, you will want to have maximum cargo capacity, meaning you want to fit Expanded Cargoholds in low slots and Cargohold Optimization in rigs.
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For courier missions, you might want to have faster align and warp speed, so you might want to fit Nanofiber Internal Structures and Inertia Stabilizers in low slots and Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer in rigs.
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If you wish, you can train skills to equip shield mods such as Shield Extenders and Invulnerability Fields in the mid slots to tank belt rats for a short time.
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== Optimize with Giant Secure Containers  ==
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There are items called ''Giant Secure Containers'' (GSC) which take up 3,000 m<sup>3</sup> in your cargo hold. The interesting thing is that you can actually put 3,900 m<sup>3</sup> of stuff in a GSC - which means you get a 30% space bonus.  
  
For courier missions, you might want to have faster align and warp speed, so you might want to fit Nanofiber Internal Structures and Inertia Stabilizers in low slots and Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer in rigs.
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With rigs and cargo expanders, that brings a Bestower total close to 25,400 m<sup>3</sup> and Mammoth up to 35,100 m<sup>3</sup>.  
  
If you wish, you can train skills to equip shield mods such as Shield Extenders and Invulnerability Fields in the mid slots to tank belt rats for a short time.
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'''Note''': To use these, you do ''not'' need to train the skill ''Anchoring'', unless you plan to place ("anchor") them in space. This skill has no prerequisites but is a 3x skill, so it will probably take about half an hour to train if you do plan to anchor your GSCs. However not having them anchored (in space) will enable other people to flip the can and even scoop the entire GSC to their cargo hold.  
  
== Optimize with Giant Secure Containers ==
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Note&nbsp;: Giant Secure Cans are great but with a minor limitation, they cannot store some goods like frozen food, livestock. So keep this in mind if you are using these containers to haul goods.  
There are items called ''Giant Secure Containers'' (GSC) which take up 3,000 m3 in your cargo hold. The interesting thing is that you can actually put 3,900 m3 of stuff in a GSC - which means you get a 30% space bonus.
 
  
With rigs and cargo expanders, that brings a Bestower total close to 25,400 m3 and Mammoth up to 35,100 m3.
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== Other Racial Haulers  ==
  
'''Note''': To use these, you do ''not'' need to train the skill ''Anchoring'', unless you plan to place ("anchor") them in space. This skill has no prerequisites but is a 3x skill, so it will probably take about half an hour to train if you do plan to anchor your GSCs. However not having them anchored (in space) will enable other people to flip the can and even scoop the entire GSC to their cargo hold.
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The Bestower is the fastest return for the most space. However, other races (well, except the Caldari like me) have decent hauling capability depending on the training investment. The Mammoth is often considered the best hauler for a week of training, giving almost half again the Bestower's space (with Expanded Cargohold IIs). The Iteron Mark V has the large cargo capacity of all Industrials.  
  
Note : Giant Secure Cans are great but with a minor limitation, they cannot store some goods like frozen food, livestock. So keep this in mind if you are using these containers to haul goods.
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All stats include a maximum number of these Expanded Cargohold IIs.  
  
== Other Racial Haulers ==
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=== Badger Pilot (Caldari) ===
The Bestower is the fastest return for the most space. However, other races (well, except the Caldari like me) have decent hauling capability depending on the training investment. The Mammoth is often considered the best hauler for a week of training, giving almost half again the Bestower's space (with Expanded Cargohold IIs). The Iteron Mark V has the large cargo capacity of all Industrials.
 
  
All stats include a maximum number of these Expanded Cargohold IIs.
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Finally, if you desire to fly a [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Badger_Mark_II Badger Mark II], capable of hauling just over 12,500 m<sup>3</sup>, here's how you can do this. This is most useful for Caldari pilots who already have the Frigate and Hull Upgrade skills and want to be flying in under a day.  
  
=== Badger Pilot (Caldari) ===
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You'll need these skills:
Finally, if you desire to fly a [http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Badger_Mark_II Badger Mark II], capable of hauling just over 12,500 m3, here's how you can do this. This is most useful for Caldari pilots who already have the Frigate and Hull Upgrade skills and want to be flying in under a day.
 
  
You'll need these skills:
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*Caldari Industrial III
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**Caldari Frigate III
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*Hull Upgrades II
  
* Caldari Industrial III
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== Advanced Hauling and earning ISK via Hauling  ==
** Caldari Frigate III
 
* Hull Upgrades II
 
  
== Advanced Hauling and earning ISK via Hauling==
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The next step after mastering industrial hauling (especially the Iteron Mark V) are Freighters and Transports. [[Advanced Hauling|This section]] will discuss training toward flying these sorts of ships, including how fastest to train toward them.  
The next step after mastering industrial hauling (especially the Iteron Mark V) are Freighters and Transports. [[Advanced Hauling|This section]] will discuss training toward flying these sorts of ships, including how fastest to train toward them.
 
  
You can use outside databases, such as [http://www.eve-ivy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Using_EVE-Central_to_haul_profitably EVE-Central], to find profitable trade routes.
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You can use outside databases, such as [http://www.eve-ivy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Using_EVE-Central_to_haul_profitably EVE-Central], to find profitable trade routes.  
  
To take the first steps in making ISK with your new hauler, you might consider [[Trading#Hauling|playing the market]] or running [[Making Money with Hauling - Level 4 Cargo Missions|Level 4 Cargo Missions]].
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To take the first steps in making ISK with your new hauler, you might consider [[Trading#Hauling|playing the market]] or running [[Making Money with Hauling - Level 4 Cargo Missions|Level 4 Cargo Missions]].  
  
=== References ===
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=== References ===
  
[http://www.eve-ivy.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=18485 A note on hauling] (Uni Forums)
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[http://www.eve-ivy.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=18485 A note on hauling] (Uni Forums)  
  
=== Credits ===
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=== Credits ===
  
[https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Raddick%20Tseng Raddick Tseng] for suggesting this, and giving some interesting statistics.
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[https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Raddick%20Tseng Raddick Tseng] for suggesting this, and giving some interesting statistics.  
  
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Stuck in station, unable to purchase the items you need?
Looking at hauling as a means to running trade routes?

Hauling can be a great way to earn ISK doing profitable trade runs. By reading this guide, you will learn how to create the quickest, most efficient hauler. This guide can be considered a current, text version of the Alt Hauling 101 audio class.

Our goal is to be able to haul the most amount of stuff (measured in m3) in the least amount of time from a new character's perspective. In doing this task, EVEMon is your friend, and this guide basically shows you some career paths that you can then customize. The route you take depends on the race of the character, as all characters now start with minimal skills but those include racial frigate skills.

Note: You cannot train these skills (Racial Industrial) on Trial accounts.

Hauler Table

Here is a simple table of Haulers and their cargohold capacity in m3 with minimal skills and full Expanded Cargohold IIs (plus 3x T1 Cargo Rigs):


Ship

Cargo m3

Race

Bestower
13,319 (20,257)
Amarr
Mammoth
17,838 (27,129)
Minmatar
Iteron Mark IV
13,058 (19,859)
Gallente
Iteron Mark V
25,270 (38,433)
Gallente
Badger
7,041 (10,708)
Caldari
Badger Mark II
12,514 (19,032)
Caldari


Creating a Bestower Pilot

Create an Amarr Character

The best route to take is to create an Amarr character to fly the Bestower, which can haul over 13,000 m3 with a minimally trained set of skills!

Obviously, since we want to fly the Amarr Bestower most quickly, you will create an Amarr character. This is the only option that makes any difference from a gameplay perspective, as it affects your starting racial skills (namely, your racial Frigate skill).

Next, you'll have the ability to chose your bloodline and ancestry. These do not make any difference to the stats you will start with, but they will change your starting appearance and the location your character starts.

Pause Training

If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, only one character can be training skills at a time. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.

Skill Books

Now, your new avatar will start out flat broke. Therefore, you will need to send the alt some ISK to buy the following skillbooks in the starting station:

  • Amarr Industrial (270,000)
  • Hull Upgrades (54,000)
  • Jury Rigging (54,000) (optional)
  • Astronautics Rigging (18,000) (optional)
    • Total: 324,000 (optional: 396,000) ISK

Neural Remap

You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. If you choose to remap then remember to do so before you start training to maximize the benefit of the remap.

  • Maximize Perception
  • Minimize Intelligence, Memory, and Charisma
  • Remaining points into Willpower

Training Plan for Bestower

You will be flying the Bestower in under 12 hours (half a day) if you go this route!

  1. Amarr Frigate III
  2. Amarr Industrial I
  3. Hull Upgrades I
  4. Hull Upgrades II

When it is done, you will be able to pilot a Bestower that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs.

Creating a Mammoth Pilot

Create a Minmatar Character

Although Bestower is a great hauler with a short training plan, its cargo capacity falls far short of fitting a full jetcan of ore. Meaning that it requires additional trips, therefore wasting time when you could do other things. This is where the Mammoth comes in, with just rigs and Expanded Cargohold IIs, it has around 27,000m3 cargo capacity. Although it is a few hundred m3 fall short of a few jetcan, you can easily exceed that with GSCs.

Similar to creating a Bestower pilot, it is recommended to to create a Minmatar character as it will have Minmatar Frigate II already trained and saves us some time. Yet again the bloodline and ancestry will have minimal impact on the training time, especially if you choose to do a neural remap.

Pause Training

If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, only one character can be training skills at a time. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.

Skill Books

Now, your new avatar will start out flat broke. You will need to send the alt some ISK to buy the following skillbooks in the starting station:

  • Learning (31,500)
  • Spatial Awareness (45,000)
  • Iron Will (45,000)
  • Hull Upgrades (54,000)
  • Minmatar Industrial (270,000)
  • Jury Rigging (54,000) (optional)
  • Astronautics Rigging (18,000) (optional)
    • Total: 445,500 (optional: 517,500) ISK

Neural Remap

You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. If you choose to remap then remember to do so before you start training to maximize the benefit of the remap.

  • Maximize Perception
  • Minimize Intelligence, Memory, and Charisma
  • Remaining points into Willpower

Training Plan for Mammoth

If you use a remap and follow this plan, you should be able to pilot a Mammoth around 3 days 4 hours 27 minutes.

  1. Learning I
  2. Learning II
  3. Spatial Awareness I
  4. Spatial Awareness II
  5. Iron Will I
  6. Iron Will II
  7. Hull Upgrades I
  8. Hull Upgrades II
  9. Minmatar Frigate III
  10. Minmatar Industrial I
  11. Minmatar Industrial II
  12. Minmatar Industrial III
  13. Minmatar Industrial IV

When it is done, you swill be able to pilot a Mammoth that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs.

Creating a Iteron Mark V Pilot

Create a Gallente Character

As you can see in the Hauler table Iteron Mark V has the largest cargohold of all industrials. But on the flip side it also takes the longest to train for. Therefore if you are into piloting the biggest, most spacious ship and don't mind the longer training queue, Iteron V is the ship for you. Furthermore, when you are done training for Iteron Mark V, you are within a week's training to the Gallente Freighter Obelisk.

Yet again, it is recommended to create a Gallente character to save us some time not having to train Gallente Frigate II. The bloodline and ancestry will have minimal impact on the training time, especially if you choose to do a neural remap.

Pause Training

If you are creating an alt on an account with other characters, only one character can be training skills at a time. Attempting to add skills to the training queue will result in an error, so you will need to pause training on your currently training character.

Skill Books

Now, your new avatar will start out flat broke. You will need to send the alt some ISK to buy the following skillbooks in the starting station:

  • Instant Recall (45,000)
  • Analytical Mind (45,000)
  • Learning (31,500)
  • Spatial Awareness (45,000)
  • Iron Will (45,000)
  • Hull Upgrades (54,000)
  • Gallente Industrial (270,000)
  • Cybernetics (67,500) (optional)
  • Jury Rigging (54,000) (optional)
  • Astronautics Rigging (18,000) (optional)
    • Total: 535,500 (optional: 675,000) ISK

Neural Remap

You can decrease the training time required by remapping your attributes. If you choose to remap then remember to do so before you start training to maximize the benefit of the remap.

  • Maximize Perception
  • Minimize Intelligence, Memory, and Charisma
  • Remaining points into Willpower

Using Implants

Since the training queue can extend over two weeks even with a remap. Therefore it might be worthwhile to consider plugging in some implants. The type of implants that gives maximum benefits are implants that gives bonuses to Perception and Willpower. Here is a table with rough estimates comparing different implant bonuses:


Bonuses
Time Reduced (with remap)
Estimated total cost of implants
+1
~2d (~20h)
~575k
+2
~4d (~1d 14h)
~8m
+3
~5d 14h (~2d 6h)
~20m


Note that the table does not include implants beyond +3s, it is because the additional training time and cost does not justify the benefits.

Training Plan for Iteron Mark V

If you use a remap with no implants and follow this plan, you should be able to pilot a Iteron Mark V around 15 days 4 hours 54 minutes.

  1. Instant Recall I
  2. Instant Recall II
  3. Analytical Mind I
    • Spending 15 minutes training it to 1 will cut around 1.5 hours off the queue. Leave it at I for now as further training of this skill will extend the time not shortening it.
  4. Learning I
  5. Learning II
  6. Spatial Awareness I
  7. Spatial Awareness II
  8. Spatial Awareness III
  9. Iron Will I
  10. Iron Will II
  11. Iron Will III
  12. Cybernetics I (optional)
    • Only train Cybernetics if you wish to use implants. When it is done training plug in the implants before continuing to maximize the benefits.
  13. Hull Upgrades I
  14. Hull Upgrades II
  15. Gallente Frigate III
  16. Gallente Industrial II
  17. Gallente Industrial II
  18. Gallente Industrial III
  19. Gallente Industrial IV
  20. Gallente Industrial V

When it is done, you will be able to pilot a Iteron Mark V that can fit Expanded Cargohold IIs.

From Iteron Mark V to Obelisk

As mentioned earlier, from Iteron Mark V it is an easy train to be able to pilot an Obelisk, a freighter. Do note that a freighter is very expensive (upward to 600m+) and cannot haul cans in space, therefore strictly limited to station to station hauling. But if you choose to train further to be able to pilot the Obelisk, you will need the following skillbooks:

  • Advanced Spaceship Command (45,000,000)
  • Gallente Freighter (67,500,000)
    • Total: 112,500,000 ISK

Training Plan for Obelisk from Iteron Mark V

If you continue to train to Obelisk from Iteron Mark V, it should take 3 days 12 hours to complete.

  1. Spaceship Command IV
  2. Spaceship Command V
  3. Advanced Spaceship Command I
  4. Gallente Freighter I

When it is done, you will be able to pilot an Obelisk.

Optional Training: Rigging

You can increase the carrying capacity of your hauler significantly by fitting it with three Medium Cargohold Optimization I rigs.

It is important to note that you do not need rigging skills to use rigs that are already installed in a ship. You only require rigging skills to install rigs on ships. Therefore, you can either train the skills yourself or give the ship and rigs to someone you trust with the required skills to install the rigs for you. If you choose to train the required skills then you will need to train the following skills:

  • Mechanic III
  • Jury Rigging III
  • Astronautics Rigging I

Fitting Haulers

Haulers are relatively straightforward to fit.For ore hauling, you will want to have maximum cargo capacity, meaning you want to fit Expanded Cargoholds in low slots and Cargohold Optimization in rigs.

For courier missions, you might want to have faster align and warp speed, so you might want to fit Nanofiber Internal Structures and Inertia Stabilizers in low slots and Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer in rigs.

If you wish, you can train skills to equip shield mods such as Shield Extenders and Invulnerability Fields in the mid slots to tank belt rats for a short time.

Optimize with Giant Secure Containers

There are items called Giant Secure Containers (GSC) which take up 3,000 m3 in your cargo hold. The interesting thing is that you can actually put 3,900 m3 of stuff in a GSC - which means you get a 30% space bonus.

With rigs and cargo expanders, that brings a Bestower total close to 25,400 m3 and Mammoth up to 35,100 m3.

Note: To use these, you do not need to train the skill Anchoring, unless you plan to place ("anchor") them in space. This skill has no prerequisites but is a 3x skill, so it will probably take about half an hour to train if you do plan to anchor your GSCs. However not having them anchored (in space) will enable other people to flip the can and even scoop the entire GSC to their cargo hold.

Note : Giant Secure Cans are great but with a minor limitation, they cannot store some goods like frozen food, livestock. So keep this in mind if you are using these containers to haul goods.

Other Racial Haulers

The Bestower is the fastest return for the most space. However, other races (well, except the Caldari like me) have decent hauling capability depending on the training investment. The Mammoth is often considered the best hauler for a week of training, giving almost half again the Bestower's space (with Expanded Cargohold IIs). The Iteron Mark V has the large cargo capacity of all Industrials.

All stats include a maximum number of these Expanded Cargohold IIs.

Badger Pilot (Caldari)

Finally, if you desire to fly a Badger Mark II, capable of hauling just over 12,500 m3, here's how you can do this. This is most useful for Caldari pilots who already have the Frigate and Hull Upgrade skills and want to be flying in under a day.

You'll need these skills:

  • Caldari Industrial III
    • Caldari Frigate III
  • Hull Upgrades II

Advanced Hauling and earning ISK via Hauling

The next step after mastering industrial hauling (especially the Iteron Mark V) are Freighters and Transports. This section will discuss training toward flying these sorts of ships, including how fastest to train toward them.

You can use outside databases, such as EVE-Central, to find profitable trade routes.

To take the first steps in making ISK with your new hauler, you might consider playing the market or running Level 4 Cargo Missions.

References

A note on hauling (Uni Forums)

Credits

Raddick Tseng for suggesting this, and giving some interesting statistics.