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* Mining in lowsec or in nullsec is, compared to mining in highsec, a decent amount of ISK/h - '''if''' you can get out alive.

* Moon mining can also be done in highsec, for a solo miner it is more profitable than highsec ores.

* Ice mining can also be very profitable, however it requires ships fit for ice mining and other skills, also competition is quite high and ice belts aren't always there.

* Industrialists in E-UNI buy ore regularly, so even if you don't want to use the Market you can sell your product.

* E-UNI features many "perfect refiners", so you can focus on investing skill points into getting the most ore out of the rocks and have others refine it for you.

===== Cons: =====

* Solo mining in highsec, especially if done in a Venture, is one of the lowest ISK/h activities in the game.

* Solo ore mining in highsec, especially if done in a Venture, is one of the lowest ISK/h activities in the game.

* ~~Due to being able to mine in a Venture only, this is not an activity well-~~suited for Alpha ~~pilots~~.

* Not suited for Alpha clones as they can only fly Ventures.

* Mining skills only apply to mining, so unless you really enjoy grinding rocks it may feel like wasted skill points after a while.

* High-value ores and ice are

==== Still not interested in combat, but also not interested in ore? How about [[Gas huffing|Gas]]? ====

Initial investment: 30M for the skillbook when bought from NPCs, 6-7M for a Venture fit for gas.

===== Pros: =====

* Compared to gas mining much better ISK/h. One Venture full of good gas will pay for your gas mining skillbook.

* Gas clouds need to be scanned and found, usually in low security space and wormholes, so you will learn a lot doing that.

* Also similar to exploration, you will be hunted - not only by players, but also by hostile NPCs. Keeping track of how long you have been where will become important for you.

===== Cons: =====

* The initial investment for a new player is pretty high. Even though the skillbook and the ship pay themselves in one to three good runs, you still need to have the ISK to spend.

* Just as with Exploration, finding gas clouds isn't guaranteed. They spawn very rarely in highsec, so you will have to go to lowsec, nullsec or into wormholes - and even then it's entirely possible to look for an hour and find nothing.

* The mining skill training caveat applies here as well. If you train into gas huffing, you will be good at gas huffing only.

==== So getting resources yourself is not for you, but how about [[Hauling|hauling]] things for others and making ISK that way? ====

===== Pros: =====

* You can combine small-ish hauling contracts with your own travels and make some ISK on the side.

* Many people need stuff transported, so public courier contracts should be well-populated in active regions of space.

===== Cons: =====

* Tech 1 Industrial ships aren't well-suited for commercial hauling. They are flimsy and therefore unsuited for any sort of valuable cargo.

* Public contracts will require high sums of collateral to be paid if you lose the cargo. You need to be able to have that amound liquid.

* Inexperienced haulers are very easy to [[Scams in EVE Online|scam]] - people will take advantage of that.

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 * Mining in lowsec or in nullsec is, compared to mining in highsec, a decent amount of ISK/h - '''if''' you can get out alive.
 * Moon mining can also be done in highsec, for a solo miner it is more profitable than highsec ores.
+* Ice mining can also be very profitable, however it requires ships fit for ice mining and other skills, also competition is quite high and ice belts aren't always there.
 * Industrialists in E-UNI buy ore regularly, so even if you don't want to use the Market you can sell your product.
 * E-UNI features many "perfect refiners", so you can focus on investing skill points into getting the most ore out of the rocks and have others refine it for you.
 ===== Cons: =====
-* Solo mining in highsec, especially if done in a Venture, is one of the lowest ISK/h activities in the game.
+* Solo ore mining in highsec, especially if done in a Venture, is one of the lowest ISK/h activities in the game.
-* Due to being able to mine in a Venture only, this is not an activity well-suited for Alpha pilots.
+* Not suited for Alpha clones as they can only fly Ventures.
 * Mining skills only apply to mining, so unless you really enjoy grinding rocks it may feel like wasted skill points after a while.
+* High-value ores and ice are
+==== Still not interested in combat, but also not interested in ore? How about [[Gas huffing|Gas]]? ====
+Initial investment: 30M for the skillbook when bought from NPCs, 6-7M for a Venture fit for gas.
+===== Pros: =====
+* Compared to gas mining much better ISK/h. One Venture full of good gas will pay for your gas mining skillbook.
+* Gas clouds need to be scanned and found, usually in low security space and wormholes, so you will learn a lot doing that.
+* Also similar to exploration, you will be hunted - not only by players, but also by hostile NPCs. Keeping track of how long you have been where will become important for you.
+===== Cons: =====
+* The initial investment for a new player is pretty high. Even though the skillbook and the ship pay themselves in one to three good runs, you still need to have the ISK to spend.
+* Just as with Exploration, finding gas clouds isn't guaranteed. They spawn very rarely in highsec, so you will have to go to lowsec, nullsec or into wormholes - and even then it's entirely possible to look for an hour and find nothing.
+* The mining skill training caveat applies here as well. If you train into gas huffing, you will be good at gas huffing only.
+==== So getting resources yourself is not for you, but how about [[Hauling|hauling]] things for others and making ISK that way? ====
+===== Pros: =====
+* You can combine small-ish hauling contracts with your own travels and make some ISK on the side.
+* Many people need stuff transported, so public courier contracts should be well-populated in active regions of space.
+===== Cons: =====
+* Tech 1 Industrial ships aren't well-suited for commercial hauling. They are flimsy and therefore unsuited for any sort of valuable cargo.
+* Public contracts will require high sums of collateral to be paid if you lose the cargo. You need to be able to have that amound liquid.
+* Inexperienced haulers are very easy to [[Scams in EVE Online|scam]] - people will take advantage of that.