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Asteroids can also be found in the [[Mission Mining|deadspace pockets created for certain missions]], and in [[Cosmic Anomaly|cosmic anomalies]]. While these sites are a bit more difficult to find, they also tend to have much less competition and have richer pickings. Hint: Set your [[overview]] to "default mining" (click the triangle next to overview -> load -> mining) to see asteroids other than Veldspar. (Note that not all ores and other harvestable items will not be shown by using the default mining set.)

=== Mechanics ===

The basic mechanics of mining are very simple: Fit your ship with a [[ORE_Basic_Ship_and_Skill_Guide#Fitting_strategies_and_mining_modules|mining module]], approach and [[targeting|target]] an asteroid, and activate your mining module. At the ''end'' of each cycle (usually between 1 and 3 minutes, depending on the module used), the ore mined is automatically deposited in your ship's cargo or ore bay. The mining module will then automatically continue mining until either your cargo/ore bay is full, or the asteroid has been "mined out" (all the available ore in that asteroid has been mined and it disappears). Make sure that you keep the asteroid within range of your mining module (usually by stopping your ship, or orbiting the asteroid) - if you are too far away, the mining module will finish its current cycle regardless, but you will receive no ore.

If you're using [[Drones#Mining Drones|mining drones]], launch your drones once you are near the asteroid, and give them the command to "mine repeatedly". They will then fly to the asteroid you have targeted, mine for one cycle (60 seconds), fly back to your ship, deposit the ore they have mined in your cargo or ore bay, then automatically fly back to the asteroid and continue mining it (until, as above, either your cargo/ore bay is full, or the asteroid has disappeared because it no longer contains any ore). Since the drones have to fly back and forth repeatedly between your ship and the asteroid, it's worth flying as close as possible to the asteroid to keep their travel time down to a minimum.

Once your cargo or ore bay is full, bring the ore you have mined to a station (either fly there yourself, or transfer the ore to another player's ship to fly back (see [[Mining#Solo mining|solo mining]] and [[Mining#Cooperative mining|cooperative mining]] for more details)), then return to the asteroids and continue mining!

=== Efficiency ===

If you would like to dive more deeply into mining, it's worth determining the most profitable way to mine. This involves deciding ~~what~~ asteroids to mine, where to find these asteroids~~, which~~ ships (and skills) are best suited ~~and optimized to mine, and (in most cases) how~~ best to haul the ore to a [[Refining|refining]] station and then to the market. All miners should attempt to maximize their efficiency (and therefore their profitability), which is typically measured by the amount of ISK earned per hour.

{{main|More Mining Maths}}

If you would like to dive more deeply into mining, it's worth determining the most profitable way to mine. This involves deciding:

* What asteroids to mine, and where to find these asteroids

* Which ships (and skills) are best suited

* How best to haul the ore to a [[Refining|refining]] station and then to the market

All miners should attempt to maximize their efficiency (and therefore their profitability), which is typically measured by the amount of ISK earned per hour.

For example, Veldspar is the ~~most common and cheapest~~ [[Asteroids and Ore#Asteroid distribution|ore]] in EVE and has a volume of 0.1 m3; Scordite is the next most common ore but has a volume of 0.15 m3. Therefore, ~~for every cycle,~~ 50% more Veldspar ~~is mined~~ than Scordite (since mining lasers mine a fixed ''volume'' of ore per minute). In order for Scordite mining to be more profitable than Veldspar mining, Scordite's market price must be in turn 50% greater than Veldspar's. Since the market is player-driven, ore and mineral prices are ever-changing, hence miners should always check the market for the most efficient ore/mineral to mine for.

When deciding what ore to mine, the driving factor is income per volume of ore (ISK per m3). For example, Veldspar is the [[Asteroids and Ore#Asteroid distribution|most common and cheapest ore]] in EVE and has a volume of 0.1 m3 per unit; Scordite is the next most common ore but has a volume of 0.15 m3 per unit. Therefore (ignoring [[ORE_Basic_Ship_and_Skill_Guide#Mining_crystals|mining crystals]]), you will always mine 50% more Veldspar than Scordite in a given period of time (since mining lasers mine a fixed ''volume'' of ore per minute). Therefore, in order for Scordite mining to be more profitable than Veldspar mining, Scordite's market price must in turn be 50% greater than Veldspar's. Since the market is player-driven, ore and mineral prices are ever-changing, hence miners should always check the market for the most efficient ore/mineral to mine for.

Websites like [http://eve.grismar.net/ore/ Grismar's Ore Chart] or [http://gunfleet.org/igb/mining.php .GUN.] can look up the current market prices for ores and minerals, and give you a recommendation which ores are the most profitable. Remember to double-check the prices that any automated tools give you - they will often use regional averages to determine mineral prices; if you plan to sell your goods at a specific station or hub then your priorities might come out differently.

Websites like [http://eve.grismar.net/ore/ Grismar's Ore Chart] or [http://gunfleet.org/igb/mining.php .GUN.] can look up the current market prices for ores and minerals, and give you a recommendation which ores are the most profitable. Remember to double-check the prices that any automated tools give you - they will often use regional averages to determine mineral prices; if you plan to sell your goods at a specific station or hub then your priorities might come out differently. Lastly, don't forget that most ore types are only found in a [[Asteroids and Ore#Asteroid distribution|certain part of New Eden]], and most miners prefer to operate only in certain parts of space.

~~=== Mining maths ===~~

Once you have chosen what kind of ore you would like to mine, you will want to maximise the quantity you mine over time. This involves choosing what [[Mining Ships|ship]] to mine in, what [[ORE_Basic_Ship_and_Skill_Guide#Fitting_strategies_and_mining_modules|modules]] to fit to it, and what [[Mining#Skills|skills]] to train; see those links for more details.

~~{{main|More Mining Maths}}~~

~~The majority~~ of ~~miners do not need to use complicated maths. There are usually only 3 or 4~~ ore ~~types in the asteroid belts in your area and if simply mining for cash it is easy~~ to ~~get a rough idea as~~ to ~~which ore is best by simply mining one ore type until you fill your hold and check~~ the ~~value of the rocks before~~ you ~~empty your hold~~. ~~Repeat with a different ore type and you will quickly work out which ore type is best~~ to mine in ~~your area~~.

=== Ice and Gas mining ===

So far this article has only talked about mining asteroids, but there are in fact two more things in Eve that can be mined: ice and gas. While they share some similarities with asteroid mining, their mechanics are in many ways quite different, and are therefore covered in separate articles: [[Ice Mining]] and [[Gas Cloud Mining]].

So far this article has only talked about mining asteroids containing ore, but there are in fact two more things in Eve that can be mined: ice and gas. While they share some similarities with asteroid mining, their mechanics are in many ways quite different, and are therefore covered in separate articles: [[Ice Mining]] and [[Gas Cloud Mining]].

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 Asteroids can also be found in the [[Mission Mining|deadspace pockets created for certain missions]], and in [[Cosmic Anomaly|cosmic anomalies]]. While these sites are a bit more difficult to find, they also tend to have much less competition and have richer pickings. Hint: Set your [[overview]] to "default mining" (click the triangle next to overview -&gt; load -&gt; mining) to see asteroids other than Veldspar. (Note that not all ores and other harvestable items will not be shown by using the default mining set.)
+=== Mechanics ===
+The basic mechanics of mining are very simple: Fit your ship with a [[ORE_Basic_Ship_and_Skill_Guide#Fitting_strategies_and_mining_modules|mining module]], approach and [[targeting|target]] an asteroid, and activate your mining module. At the ''end'' of each cycle (usually between 1 and 3 minutes, depending on the module used), the ore mined is automatically deposited in your ship's cargo or ore bay. The mining module will then automatically continue mining until either your cargo/ore bay is full, or the asteroid has been "mined out" (all the available ore in that asteroid has been mined and it disappears). Make sure that you keep the asteroid within range of your mining module (usually by stopping your ship, or orbiting the asteroid) - if you are too far away, the mining module will finish its current cycle regardless, but you will receive no ore.
+If you're using [[Drones#Mining Drones|mining drones]], launch your drones once you are near the asteroid, and give them the command to "mine repeatedly". They will then fly to the asteroid you have targeted, mine for one cycle (60 seconds), fly back to your ship, deposit the ore they have mined in your cargo or ore bay, then automatically fly back to the asteroid and continue mining it (until, as above, either your cargo/ore bay is full, or the asteroid has disappeared because it no longer contains any ore). Since the drones have to fly back and forth repeatedly between your ship and the asteroid, it's worth flying as close as possible to the asteroid to keep their travel time down to a minimum.
+Once your cargo or ore bay is full, bring the ore you have mined to a station (either fly there yourself, or transfer the ore to another player's ship to fly back (see [[Mining#Solo mining|solo mining]] and [[Mining#Cooperative mining|cooperative mining]] for more details)), then return to the asteroids and continue mining!
 === Efficiency ===
-If you would like to dive more deeply into mining, it's worth determining the most profitable way to mine. This involves deciding what asteroids to mine, where to find these asteroids, which ships (and skills) are best suited and optimized to mine, and (in most cases) how best to haul the ore to a [[Refining|refining]] station and then to the market. All miners should attempt to maximize their efficiency (and therefore their profitability), which is typically measured by the amount of ISK earned per hour.
+{{main|More Mining Maths}} <!-- this will be the new "mining yield" detail page -->
+If you would like to dive more deeply into mining, it's worth determining the most profitable way to mine. This involves deciding:
+* What asteroids to mine, and where to find these asteroids
+* Which ships (and skills) are best suited
+* How best to haul the ore to a [[Refining|refining]] station and then to the market
+All miners should attempt to maximize their efficiency (and therefore their profitability), which is typically measured by the amount of ISK earned per hour.
-For example, Veldspar is the most common and cheapest [[Asteroids and Ore#Asteroid distribution|ore]] in EVE and has a volume of 0.1&nbsp;m<sup>3</sup>; Scordite is the next most common ore but has a volume of 0.15&nbsp;m<sup>3</sup>. Therefore, for every cycle, 50% more Veldspar is mined than Scordite (since mining lasers mine a fixed ''volume'' of ore per minute). In order for Scordite mining to be more profitable than Veldspar mining, Scordite's market price must be in turn 50% greater than Veldspar's. Since the market is player-driven, ore and mineral prices are ever-changing, hence miners should always check the market for the most efficient ore/mineral to mine for.
+When deciding what ore to mine, the driving factor is income per volume of ore (ISK per m<sup>3</sup>). For example, Veldspar is the [[Asteroids and Ore#Asteroid distribution|most common and cheapest ore]] in EVE and has a volume of 0.1&nbsp;m<sup>3</sup> per unit; Scordite is the next most common ore but has a volume of 0.15&nbsp;m<sup>3</sup> per unit. Therefore (ignoring [[ORE_Basic_Ship_and_Skill_Guide#Mining_crystals|mining crystals]]), you will always mine 50% more Veldspar than Scordite in a given period of time (since mining lasers mine a fixed ''volume'' of ore per minute). Therefore, in order for Scordite mining to be more profitable than Veldspar mining, Scordite's market price must in turn be 50% greater than Veldspar's. Since the market is player-driven, ore and mineral prices are ever-changing, hence miners should always check the market for the most efficient ore/mineral to mine for.
-Websites like [http://eve.grismar.net/ore/ Grismar's Ore Chart] or [http://gunfleet.org/igb/mining.php .GUN.] can look up the current market prices for ores and minerals, and give you a recommendation which ores are the most profitable. Remember to double-check the prices that any automated tools give you - they will often use regional averages to determine mineral prices; if you plan to sell your goods at a specific station or hub then your priorities might come out differently.
+Websites like [http://eve.grismar.net/ore/ Grismar's Ore Chart] or [http://gunfleet.org/igb/mining.php .GUN.] can look up the current market prices for ores and minerals, and give you a recommendation which ores are the most profitable. Remember to double-check the prices that any automated tools give you - they will often use regional averages to determine mineral prices; if you plan to sell your goods at a specific station or hub then your priorities might come out differently. Lastly, don't forget that most ore types are only found in a [[Asteroids and Ore#Asteroid distribution|certain part of New Eden]], and most miners prefer to operate only in certain parts of space.
-=== Mining maths  ===
+Once you have chosen what kind of ore you would like to mine, you will want to maximise the quantity you mine over time. This involves choosing what [[Mining Ships|ship]] to mine in, what [[ORE_Basic_Ship_and_Skill_Guide#Fitting_strategies_and_mining_modules|modules]] to fit to it, and what [[Mining#Skills|skills]] to train; see those links for more details.
-{{main|More Mining Maths}}
-The majority of miners do not need to use complicated maths. There are usually only 3 or 4 ore types in the asteroid belts in your area and if simply mining for cash it is easy to get a rough idea as to which ore is best by simply mining one ore type until you fill your hold and check the value of the rocks before you empty your hold. Repeat with a different ore type and you will quickly work out which ore type is best to mine in your area.
 === Ice and Gas mining ===
-So far this article has only talked about mining asteroids, but there are in fact two more things in Eve that can be mined: ice and gas. While they share some similarities with asteroid mining, their mechanics are in many ways quite different, and are therefore covered in separate articles: [[Ice Mining]] and [[Gas Cloud Mining]].
+So far this article has only talked about mining asteroids containing ore, but there are in fact two more things in Eve that can be mined: ice and gas. While they share some similarities with asteroid mining, their mechanics are in many ways quite different, and are therefore covered in separate articles: [[Ice Mining]] and [[Gas Cloud Mining]].
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