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1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I<br>
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Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating<br>
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Coreli C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating<br>
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Heat Sink II<br>
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Heat Sink II<br>
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Heat Sink II<br>
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Damage Control II<br>
 
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Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800<br>
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Warp Disruptor II<br>
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Mega Pulse Laser II, Faction Multifrequency L<br>
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Large 'Solace' I Remote Bulwark Reconstruction<br>
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Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
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Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
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Large Trimark Armor Pump I<br>
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Revision as of 18:50, 6 May 2010

The Amarr Basic Ship and Skill Guide is intended to give fitting and skill recommendations for Amarr ships in both Player vs. Environment (PVE) and Player vs. Player (PVP) encounters.

This is a work in progress, and the guide's Discussion Thread is on the Eve University forum. Please direct comments, suggestions, and corrections to that thread.


10 reasons to fly Amarr


  1. Amarr is the best because it is. You can't argue with truth.
  2. Freak'n LAZORS!!!
  3. Men armour tank. Shelids or whatever is that red bar above your manly tank.
  4. Amarr discovered how to jump around space. So everyone else would be stuck on stupid planets without us anyways.
  5. Did anyone mention the freak'n lazors?
  6. There is no six and this is because we Amarr decided it would be that way.
  7. Symmetry anyone?
  8. Have you seen the Amarr Battleship lineup? If you were locked at the time then not for long.
  9. We haz Lazors.
  10. Amarr have enslaved every other race they have encountered. 'Nuff said.



Amarr General Information

Amarr are one of the four character races, and like the others, have a distinct line of ships with specific quirks and capabilities. Amarr ships use armour tanking to protect themselves and primarily employ turrets, specifically Energy Turrets (lasers) to do damage.

  • Armour tanking is the most popular tanking method for PvP, and is also the norm for Gallente and some Minmatar ships (making it the standard for Remote Repairing). Amarr ships have lots of base armour hp, and several ships have direct bonuses to armour resists (T1 examples: Punisher, Maller, Prophecy, and Abaddon).
  • Energy turrets are unique to Amarr vessels -- no other races' ships have bonuses for lasers. Lasers have the highest capacitor usage of any weapon system, and accordingly Amarr ships have very robust capacitors. Many Amarr ship bonuses mitigate this capacitor usage, and most Amarr skill plans prioritize skills to make capacitors bigger and quicker to recharge, and to reduce the capacitor requirements of lasers.
  • With some ships in the Amarr line-up second only to Gallente hulls for drone capacity, Amarr pilots can use drones to great effect.
  • Armour tanking tends to directly cut ships' speed, and, given that Amarr ships tend to have lower than average base speeds, tanked Amarr fits are often ponderous. If, however, less tank is required Amarr ships' numerous low slots let them overtake even Minmatar ships at a cost, with the T2 Crusader interceptor beating out the Claw by a slim margin for the title of fastest racial frigate.


In PvP, Amarr ships have by now been a 'flavor of the month' for much more than a month, and can be extremely useful in nearly all roles. Exceptional armour tanks, big capacitors and the excellent combination of damage and range offered by lasers all make Amarr ships popular for PvP.

  • Note, however, that the E-Uni PvP roles of tackler and EWAR can be difficult for new Amarr pilots as Amarr ships don't excel at these roles with low SP. Amarr frigates have very few mid slots and the Punisher is quite slow while the Executioner is very fragile. The Amarr EWAR is Tracking Disruption (TD) and, although it is extremely useful in certain circumstances, it has no effect on ships that do not use turrets to do damage.


In PvE, Amarr ships are less popular than other races for running missions. Due to the ability of lasers to only do Thermal and EM damage many of the rats become more difficult to combat then they would be otherwise. However, there are many effective work arounds to be found and many people do mission with Amarr ships exclusively.


Amarr ships tend to stick to the formula of lots of armour for defense and lots of lasers for damage, and there are have fewer 'special case' ships than there are in the other races' lineups (though there are some). Amarr are sometimes thought to be -- from one point of view -- the 'simplest' race to fly. Breaking the mould may be more restrictive and less rewarding than it is when flying other races' ships; the opportunities are there but they are more skill intensive and require greater sacrifices. New pilots are best served by playing to the Amarr formula until they know when to break the rules.


Cross training into or out of Amarr can be more skill intensive than other cross training. The most viable prospects are Gallente (armour tanking, gunnery and drone synergies) and then Minmatar (some gunnery and armour tanking synergies). Caldari have the fewest skills in common (T2 Khanid missile ships excepted) and would require near-complete retraining.


Amarr Core Skills

The skills which are important to Amarr characters are the same skills which are crucial to any pilot who wants to maximize turret weapon damage, survive with an armor tank, and use drones effectively; all backed up by solid support skills. Here are the primary skills associated with this goal together with the specific emphasis for Amarr pilots if applicable for each of the skill categories:


Corporation Management

  • None


Drones

The drone skills core to Amarr success are generally the same as those any pilot will want.


Electronics

Electronics skills contain a bit of a mix which are crucial for all pilots including fitting and targeting skills.


Engineering

Engineering has some of the most important capacitor skills and very important fitting skills. Energy Managment and Energy Systems Operations are as close to mandatory for Amarr pilots as it gets in EVE.


Gunnery

Gunnery is the home of everything damage dealing for turret users. All of the skills are important with first priority being with those that accentuate the distinct characteristics of lasers: high cap usage, excellent damage at range, decent tracking, huge optimal and small falloff ranges.


Industry

  • None


Leadership

  • None


Learning

The Learning skills stand alone as extremely important to all and are well covered in other guides.

  • Basic Learning Categories to Level 5
  • Advanced Learning to Level 4


Mechanic

Mechanic skills are where the skills for armour tanking are found and are essential to anyone counting on their armour to keep them alive.


Missile Launcher Operation

  • None


Navigation

Navigation is another category that is not particularly more applicable to Amarr pilots than those of other races. Note however, that some help reduce capacitor usage and accordingly have the second order effect of making more available for other purposes.


Science

Jump clones and implants are extremely important tools for any pilot.


Social

  • None


Spaceship Command

The following skills allow you to fly Amarr ships and are therefore fundemental.


Subsystems

  • None


Trade

  • None



Skill Plans

So what do these core skills mean? If you went through them one by one and maxed them all out (except where noted), without any implants, learning skills first, it would take you 1165 days 16 hours and change as a brand new Amarr pilot. Yes, that is a little over 3 years. Yes, you would be the king of Amarr T1 pilots. Yes, it would be very very silly. However, if this is your first kick at the cat and you have no idea where to start you will not be wrong to start training ANY of the skills on this list and a well rounded Amarr pilot will end up with some degree of all of them over an average career.

Basic Plan

If you need more direction to have the time to get your feet under you this is a basic package you could train that will take you about a week to learn. After that much time in E-Uni you will surely be well beyond the handholding stage and messing with EVEmon and agonizing over skill training variances is half the fun of EVE. This plan does not incorporate learning skills or maximize anything - rather it is a very basic intro that would leave you with a few skills to start discovering what you are actually interested in becoming:


Tech 2 Tank

Here are the skills and prerequisites you will need to utilise a Tech 2 Armour Tank - something you will want to aspire to if you plan to PvP or Mission as an Amarr pilot.

  • Hull Upgrades V
  • Repair Systems IV
  • Mechanic IV
  • Jury Rigging III
  • Armor Rigging I

You will want to learn the compensation skills to a minimum of 3 and eventually to 5 to maximize your tank.

  • EM Armor Compensation
  • Explosive Armor Compensation
  • Kinetic Armor Compensation
  • Thermic Armor Compensation


Tech 2 Energy Turrets

Here are the skills and prerequisites you will need to utilise a Tech 2 Energy Turret - because that means more pew pew!

Each type of Energy Turret requires a specific specialization skill. Note that each larger size specializations will incorporate the smaller size specialization with all its prerequisites. Here they are with applicable prerequisites:

  • Beam Lasers
    • Small Beam Laser Specialization
      • Small Energy Turret V
      • Sharpshooter III
    • Medium Beam Laser Specialization
      • Small Beam Laser Specialization IV
      • Medium Energy Turret V
      • Sharpshooter IV
    • Large Beam Laser Specialization
      • Medium Beam Laser Specialization IV
      • Large Energy Turret V
      • Sharpshooter V


  • Pulse Lasers
    • Small Pulse Laser Specialization
      • Small Energy Turret V
      • Motion Prediction III
    • Medium Pulse Laser Specialization
      • Small Pulse Laser Specialization IV
      • Medium Energy Turret V
      • Motion Prediction IV
    • Large Pulse Laser Specialization
      • Medium Pulse Laser Specialization IV
      • Large Energy Turret V
      • Motion Prediction V





Fittings


Rookie Ship


Impairor

Template:Ship Intro This is perhaps the worst of any of the starting ships, but it doesn't really matter. It will easily do everything it needs to do with its civilian modules and completing the Military Tutorial as soon as possible will hand you several better platforms.



Frigate


Executioner

Template:Ship Intro This frigate is the speedy option with the highest base velocity of the Amarr T1 frigates at 404 m/s. It also has high manoeuvrability and accordingly it can cruise around and align very quickly to bail out if required. Its primary limitation is the 2 High, 2 Mid, and 2 Low slots (2/2/2) which limits the functionality and flexibility of this platform. For just driving around fast, practicing skills that will come into play later on as an interceptor pilot, or system hopping as quickly as possible the Executioner is a great choice; it is not a good option for PvP or PvE for a new low SP pilot.

Inquisitor

Template:Ship Intro The Amarr missile frigate. It is the only Amarr T1 frigate that can fit 4 weapon systems with its 3 launcher and 1 turret hardpoints. It also has the largest cargo bay of any T1 frigate at 315 cubic meters.

Tormentor

Template:Ship Intro With Mining bonuses, fledgling Amarr miners will want to start here. It is actually quite a tough little mining frigate, and it has the minimum (5 cubic meter) drone bay.


Starter Mining Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • Fits with no skills and packing a light scout drone you should be fine in 0.7 space and above. For 0.6 you might want a wingman or five to take care of rats, though.



Punisher

Template:Ship Intro Thank goodness it is good looking as this is where a brand new Amarr pilot will spend the majority of his or her time.

This is easily the most survivable and tenacious of the T1 frigates available. Due to decent shield and excellent armour HP together with the bonus to armour resistances and the 4 low slots, this platform can handle a surprising amount of damage for a T1 frigate. It has 4 high (3 turret), 2 mid, 4 low slots (4/2/4). It has the largest capacitor of a T1 frigate in order to keep its lasers firing.

This the E-Uni tackler for new Amarr pilots, but it does not excel at this role due to the limited mid slots and low base velocity.


E-Uni Tackler Corp Fit

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  • This fit is pretty much as disposable as it gets, which is convenient since the Uni will hand them out like candy. It focuses on overcoming the Punisher's low speed to get a point into play.


Heavy Frigate Tackler Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • This tackler fit plays to a Punisher's strengths rather than overcoming deficiencies. It is not the ideal E-Uni fleet setup but it is a better use of the platform.


DD Punisher Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • In the cargo hold: 3x Gamma S crystals
  • This setup gives you the cap, a bit of damage, and a bit of armor, while being relatively inexpensive and not requiring a large amount of ISK.


PvE Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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PvE Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • Note: The named lasers are there due having lower CPU requirements like the Membrane in low slot. The named energy vampire/NOS is to help out with eventual cap issues. If your skills are up to it you could substitute if for something else, a Salvager I for example. The cap recharger is a relatively low-priced one, though you should fit the best you can/want to afford. Same goes for the small armor repper. Remember to fit a type of plating according to the rats you will face! you might still have some issues with Gurista rats, but that requires a totally different approach anyway. The AB you will need to get in your preferred range, which is partly depending on the "ammo" you use. this setup can be quite easily upgraded with better skills.



Crucifier

Template:Ship Intro The Amarr EWAR frigate. It specializes in Tracking Disruptors to greatly reduce the effectiveness of enemy turret users.

It is the only Amarr T1 frigate with 3 Mid slots and accordingly some favour this platform over the punisher or executioner as a tackler.


E-Uni EWAR Corp Fit

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Fleet EWAR Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • recommend 2 Gamma crystals and 2 Microwave crystals for the laser, and two, each, of Optimal Range Disruption and Tracking Speed Disruption the scripts for disruptors.


Tackler from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • This setup gives you the tackling, speed, and staying power needed to get the job done, while being relatively inexpensive and not requiring a significant amount of ISK.



Magnate

Template:Ship Intro An excellent frigate to learn the basics of exploration. It is the only Amarr T1 frigate with a 10 cubic meter drone bay.


Prober Fit

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  • Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I which increases probing strength is an extremely cheap rig and will make a big difference for a low SP pilot. Only 2 can be fit due to Calibration usage.
  • Instead of a salvager a weapon system could be added if preferred and a cloak should be fit as soon as training makes it possible.






Destroyer


Coercer

Template:Ship Intro The 8 high slots will cause a sharp intake of breath for a new player getting their first Coercer. This firepower will make it an ideal platform for chewing through any Level 1 Mission. The 4 low slots allow enough tank to accomplish this PvE task easily; however, it is limited by only having 1 mid slot compared to other destroyers.

It fulfills a role as an early salvager capably, and this is probably the more enduring role as most players will likely outgrow its PvE uses quickly. It can be used for Level 2 Missions, but this requires caution balanced against the knowledge and SP of the pilot and accordingly the fit.

Destroyers are not recommended for normal E-Uni PvP for new pilots.


PvE Level 1 Mission Machine

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Starter Salvager Fit

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  • The Rigs are certainly not required but will make things faster if you can afford them.
  • Afterburner if you are salvaging while missions are ongoing (ie. in deadspace), Microwarpdrive otherwise if you have the skills to fit it.


DD PvP Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • DPS: 173
  • Speed: 1598
  • Cap: You fire your guns or you use your MWD. Using both lasts two minutes. Using one or the other is cap stable.
  • Cost: 304K - Hull: 975K - Total: 1279K




Cruiser



Arbitrator

Template:Ship Intro This is a break in the Amarr mould as it is an excellent drone carrier and a bit of a jack of all trades with 4 High / 4 Mid / 4 Low slots (4/4/4) and its bonus to Tracking Disruption. This is a fairly common Amarr mission running platform.


Profane PvP TD Fit

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  • Peacetime only option: 3 x Medium Trimark Armor Pump I


PvE fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • See forum post for options and discussion on this fit. Note the various high slot set-ups and discussion on tank.
  • I'd certainly recommend upgrading to meta 3/4 cap rechargers, guns, and armor repairer when your finances allow - named afterburners are a little pricey for my taste, and named armor hardeners/energized platings give you no benefit.
  • Using mission-specific hardeners rather than EANMs will give you a stronger tank, but it's personal preference whether you take the time to swap.


L2 and L3 Mission Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

  • This forum thread has quite a bit of discussion on the fits listed within and should definitely be read by anyone looking to PvE fit this ship.

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  • Rigs are optional
  • This is NOT a basic fit and has a high skill requirement. It is an excellent goal to work towards.



Augoror

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Omen

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PvE Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • Hardeners are assuming Sansha rats, change as applicable.
  • The CCC rigs are a worthy investment imo otherwise its really hard on cap. It requires a bit better skills to fit but Engineering 4 and Electronics 4 should still be enough. You can problably make it easier to fit using a couple of named modules. Also, named Cap Rechargers are highly recommended.


PvP Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • 5.6M, doesn't need perfect CPU/PG skills - if you're short pick up some named modules to free up CPU for either a PDS or RCU in place of one of the overdrives.
  • Stable on just guns alone, 4 minutes with point, and just over 1 minute with everything on.
  • DPS is about 250 with a 10k shield buffer.


PvP Beam High Skill Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • NOTE: Needs Engineering V and AWU IV and a 1% grid implant or AWU V
  • Optimal is 17km with multifrequency, 61km with aurora
  • Hits for 297 DPS with faction ammo and 192 with aurora
  • Is not cap stable running either ammo, lasts about 6 and a half minutes with guns only running and less than a minute with everything on
  • About 11.2k EHP



Maller

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Battlecruiser



Prophecy

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Harbringer

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Battleship



Armageddon

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High Sec PvP Armageddon from the E-Uni Forum Post

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  • Faction ANP really aren't that much, and give an additional ~10k of buffer
  • 1112 DPS @ 15+10km with Multi, 939 DPS @ 45+10 with Scorch
  • For Null or Low Sec space fit a 100MN MicroWarpdrive which can be done by sacrifising 2x Mega Pulse Laser II for 2x Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II
  • If drone skills are not good or you decide you need replacements you can use Hammerhead II x5, Valkyrie II x5, Warrior II x5



Apocalypse

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Apoc Mission Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post


Apoc WH Fit from the E-Uni Forum Post

Abaddon

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Industrial



Sigil

Template:Ship Info This industrial only requires Amarr Industrial trained to 1 to fly and accordingly it is very accessible to new pilots. It is one of the fastest industrial haulers and has 5 low slots which can take advantage of this through fitting to get an align time much quicker than is normal for an industrial. It is extremely fragile and even if tanked as much as possible it is very easy to suicide gank. Typically there is no point fitting a tank at all because of this rather favouring speed or just extra cargo space.

Bestower

Template:Ship Intro Arguably the best of the racial industrials from a 'bang for your buck' perspective, and only requiring Amarr Industrial trained to 1, the bestower is a favourite for alternate character hauling setups. See Creating an Alt Hauler for details.