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[[File:Select_Harvestable_Cloud.jpg|thumb|Overview Settings]]
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[[File:Harvestable_Cloud.jpg|thumb|Harvestable Cloud]]
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[[File:actually_harvesting.jpg|thumb|Harvesting a Gas Cloud]]
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[[File:gas_price.jpg|thumb|Prices in Hek c.2010]]
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[[File:Synth_Booster.jpg|thumb|A Typical Synth Booster]]
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[[File:booster.jpg|thumb|A Typical Booster]]
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FYI: Most of this information is from Sept 2010 and may or may not still be valid.
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=Location=
 
=Location=
  
*Gas clouds are found inside [[wormholes]] and K-Space in low sec and null sec.  They are only found very rarely in high sec and then only via [[Exploration]] or level 4 mining missions.
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*Gas clouds are found inside [[wormholes]] and known Space in low sec and null sec.  They are only found very rarely in high sec and then only via [[Exploration]] or level 4 mining missions.
 
*Unlike most exploration sites, gas clouds are not randomly distributed throughout the universe.
 
*Unlike most exploration sites, gas clouds are not randomly distributed throughout the universe.
*They are located in specific regions and places.  See [[Scanning:Scan Results#Ladar Sites|Exploration sites : Ladar]] for some specific locations.
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*They are located in specific regions and places.  See [[Scanning:Scan_Results#Gas_Sites|Exploration sites : Gas]] for some specific locations.
 
*For wormhole specific gas mining see [[Gas in W-space]]
 
*For wormhole specific gas mining see [[Gas in W-space]]
  
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*You will need a ship that has enough high slot turrets.
 
*You will need a ship that has enough high slot turrets.
 
*Unlike other mining, gas cloud mining can not be performed in any type of exhumer.  (They can not mount high slot turrets.)
 
*Unlike other mining, gas cloud mining can not be performed in any type of exhumer.  (They can not mount high slot turrets.)
*You will also need at least one Gas Cloud Harvester.  You can only mount one harvester per trained skill level, and each one uses a turret slot.  A battlecruiser works nicely for this, or a cruiser with 5 turret slots such as a Thorax.
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*You will also need at least one Gas Cloud Harvester.  You can only mount one harvester per trained skill level, and each one uses a turret slot.  A battlecruiser works nicely for this, or a cruiser with 5 turret slots such as a Thorax. The Venture frigate is
 
*Unlike regular mining, there are no gas equivalents to the Mining Laser Upgrade.
 
*Unlike regular mining, there are no gas equivalents to the Mining Laser Upgrade.
 
*You'll probably want to fit some cargohold expanders as well -- gas is bulky.
 
*You'll probably want to fit some cargohold expanders as well -- gas is bulky.
 
*A ship with gas harvesters attached appears to have nozzles coming from the body of the ship.  The number of nozzles does not necessarily match the number of gas harvesters fitted.
 
*A ship with gas harvesters attached appears to have nozzles coming from the body of the ship.  The number of nozzles does not necessarily match the number of gas harvesters fitted.
 
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*As of 2010, a hurricane worked extremely well for gas cloud mining in w space. With all the low and high slots you can harvest away without sacrificing much dps and also have enough cargo expanders to make each trip worth while. (May no longer be recommended as of 2013)
*A hurricane works extremely well for gas cloud mining in w space. With all the low and high slots you can harvest away without sacrificing much dps and also have enough cargo expanders to make each trip worth while.
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*The [[Venture]] frigate is often cited as being useful for Gas mining and receives bonuses for gas cloud harvesting. It's bonuses, low cost and 5000 m3 ore hold make it a good choice. Venture's yield is the same as a battlecruiser with 5 T2 gas harvesters
  
 
=The process of Gas Cloud Harvesting=
 
=The process of Gas Cloud Harvesting=
 
[[File:Select_Harvestable_Cloud.jpg|400px|Overview Settings]]
 
 
*To be able to target a gas cloud you need it selected to display on your overview.
 
*To be able to target a gas cloud you need it selected to display on your overview.
 
*To do this, right click the overview, select open overview settings, select the filter tab, open the celestials folder, and check the Harvestable Clouds box.
 
*To do this, right click the overview, select open overview settings, select the filter tab, open the celestials folder, and check the Harvestable Clouds box.
  
 
*Find a harvestable cloud.
 
*Find a harvestable cloud.
[[File:Harvestable_Cloud.jpg|400px|Harvestable Cloud]]
 
 
 
*Move within 1500m of the harvestable cloud (the range of a Gas Cloud Harvester module).
 
*Move within 1500m of the harvestable cloud (the range of a Gas Cloud Harvester module).
 
*And start your harvesters.  Note that unlike regular mining, there's no pretty visual effect.  The gas just appears in your cargo hold.
 
*And start your harvesters.  Note that unlike regular mining, there's no pretty visual effect.  The gas just appears in your cargo hold.
[[File:actually_harvesting.jpg|400px|Harvesting a Gas Cloud]]
 
 
 
*With a Gas Cloud Harvester 1 you will receive 10m3 (1 unit) of gas per 30 seconds (1 cycle).  T2 harvesters are faster, yielding 20 m3 every 40 seconds.
 
*With a Gas Cloud Harvester 1 you will receive 10m3 (1 unit) of gas per 30 seconds (1 cycle).  T2 harvesters are faster, yielding 20 m3 every 40 seconds.
 
*At 10m3 each it does not take a lot of gas to fill most ships' cargo holds.
 
*At 10m3 each it does not take a lot of gas to fill most ships' cargo holds.
 
 
*Unfortunately, High sec gas does not sell well or for much ISK.
 
*Unfortunately, High sec gas does not sell well or for much ISK.
[[File:gas_price.jpg|400px|Prices in Hek]]
 
 
 
*Notice this is just for high sec gas and is not the same for null sec gas.
 
*Notice this is just for high sec gas and is not the same for null sec gas.
 
 
*Gas from wormhole sites can be very profitable.
 
*Gas from wormhole sites can be very profitable.
  
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*Gas from high/ low sec exploration sites is of the Mykoserocin variety. These produce the basic synth boosters.
 
*Gas from high/ low sec exploration sites is of the Mykoserocin variety. These produce the basic synth boosters.
 
*Synth boosters are NOT illegal and have no possible side effects.
 
*Synth boosters are NOT illegal and have no possible side effects.
[[File:Synth_Booster.jpg|400px|A Typical Synth Booster]]
 
 
 
*Other gases from low and null sec make higher grades of boosters that are illegal and have "possible" side effects.
 
*Other gases from low and null sec make higher grades of boosters that are illegal and have "possible" side effects.
 
*On these boosters you are guaranteed the good effect, but there are 4 "possible" bad side effects.  (You may get none, you may get all 4; there is a percentage chance for each side effect, modified by various skills.)
 
*On these boosters you are guaranteed the good effect, but there are 4 "possible" bad side effects.  (You may get none, you may get all 4; there is a percentage chance for each side effect, modified by various skills.)
[[File:booster.jpg|400px|A Typical Booster]]
 
  
*See Also [[Scanning:Scan Results#Ladar|Exploration sites : Ladar Sites]]
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*See Also [[Boosters]]
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==See also==
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*[[Scanning:Scan_Results#Gas_Sites|Exploration sites : Gas Sites]]
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*[[Boosters]]
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*(Special Thanks to Artemeo for finding a ladar site in high sec, that allowed the pictures on this page.)
 
*(Special Thanks to Artemeo for finding a ladar site in high sec, that allowed the pictures on this page.)
  

Revision as of 00:01, 29 September 2013

Overview Settings
File:Harvestable Cloud.jpg
Harvestable Cloud
File:Actually harvesting.jpg
Harvesting a Gas Cloud
File:Gas price.jpg
Prices in Hek c.2010
File:Synth Booster.jpg
A Typical Synth Booster
File:Booster.jpg
A Typical Booster

FYI: Most of this information is from Sept 2010 and may or may not still be valid.

Location

  • Gas clouds are found inside wormholes and known Space in low sec and null sec. They are only found very rarely in high sec and then only via Exploration or level 4 mining missions.
  • Unlike most exploration sites, gas clouds are not randomly distributed throughout the universe.
  • They are located in specific regions and places. See Exploration sites : Gas for some specific locations.
  • For wormhole specific gas mining see Gas in W-space

Skills needed

  • To mine a gas cloud you will need the skill Gas Cloud Harvesting. The skill book currently runs 21.6M isk, and is available from all normal NPC sellers.
  • To learn the Gas Cloud Harvesting skill you need Mining at level 4.
  • You can only install one gas cloud harvester per trained skill level. Note that this is very different from normal mining, where you can fit one mining laser per turret slot. Also note that currently EFT allows one additional gas cloud harvester, but this has been tested and found not correct.
  • If you're going to invest in this skill, consider training it to level 5 at once, because the harvesting rate of 5 T2 harvesters is almost double that of 4 T1 harvesters.

Equipment needed

  • You will need a ship that has enough high slot turrets.
  • Unlike other mining, gas cloud mining can not be performed in any type of exhumer. (They can not mount high slot turrets.)
  • You will also need at least one Gas Cloud Harvester. You can only mount one harvester per trained skill level, and each one uses a turret slot. A battlecruiser works nicely for this, or a cruiser with 5 turret slots such as a Thorax. The Venture frigate is
  • Unlike regular mining, there are no gas equivalents to the Mining Laser Upgrade.
  • You'll probably want to fit some cargohold expanders as well -- gas is bulky.
  • A ship with gas harvesters attached appears to have nozzles coming from the body of the ship. The number of nozzles does not necessarily match the number of gas harvesters fitted.
  • As of 2010, a hurricane worked extremely well for gas cloud mining in w space. With all the low and high slots you can harvest away without sacrificing much dps and also have enough cargo expanders to make each trip worth while. (May no longer be recommended as of 2013)
  • The Venture frigate is often cited as being useful for Gas mining and receives bonuses for gas cloud harvesting. It's bonuses, low cost and 5000 m3 ore hold make it a good choice. Venture's yield is the same as a battlecruiser with 5 T2 gas harvesters

The process of Gas Cloud Harvesting

  • To be able to target a gas cloud you need it selected to display on your overview.
  • To do this, right click the overview, select open overview settings, select the filter tab, open the celestials folder, and check the Harvestable Clouds box.
  • Find a harvestable cloud.
  • Move within 1500m of the harvestable cloud (the range of a Gas Cloud Harvester module).
  • And start your harvesters. Note that unlike regular mining, there's no pretty visual effect. The gas just appears in your cargo hold.
  • With a Gas Cloud Harvester 1 you will receive 10m3 (1 unit) of gas per 30 seconds (1 cycle). T2 harvesters are faster, yielding 20 m3 every 40 seconds.
  • At 10m3 each it does not take a lot of gas to fill most ships' cargo holds.
  • Unfortunately, High sec gas does not sell well or for much ISK.
  • Notice this is just for high sec gas and is not the same for null sec gas.
  • Gas from wormhole sites can be very profitable.

Uses

  • Gas from gas cloud sites is used in the manufacture of Boosters.
  • Gas from wormholes is not used in booster production but instead is used in T3 manufacturing. This can be extremely profitable.
  • Gas from high/ low sec exploration sites is of the Mykoserocin variety. These produce the basic synth boosters.
  • Synth boosters are NOT illegal and have no possible side effects.
  • Other gases from low and null sec make higher grades of boosters that are illegal and have "possible" side effects.
  • On these boosters you are guaranteed the good effect, but there are 4 "possible" bad side effects. (You may get none, you may get all 4; there is a percentage chance for each side effect, modified by various skills.)


See also

  • (Special Thanks to Artemeo for finding a ladar site in high sec, that allowed the pictures on this page.)