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Revision as of 23:34, 10 March 2014

Sophomore O'b Haru Sen (( ._.)) dutifully working towards eventual graduation... (-_o)

I recently started to do minor edits in the wiki, planning to do larger ones as soon as I feel competent enough. If I am doing anything wrong or badly, please let me know, I have a robust ego :)

todo

  • create Containers page

done

  • check skill attributes after Odyssey 1.1 skill tree changes and edit several pages: Messing with your Head, Skills and Learning
  • add details to Killboard
  • add MTU issues after Rubicon 1.0 and delete them again after 1.1
  • various grammar, spelling and updating cleanups

Containers

Overview

Cargo Container Types
Name Price
ISK
Capacity
(inside)
m3
Volume
(outside)
m3
Volume
packaged
m3
Mass
kg
Structure
Hitpoints
Password
Protectable
Audit
Log
Signature
Radius
Small Standard Container ~3k 120 100 10 10k 10 HP
Medium Standard Container ~10k 390 325 33 100k 10 HP (3 shots)
Large Standard Container ~42k 780 650 65 1M 10 HP
Small Audit Log Secure Container ~200k 120 100 10 10k 100k HP * *
Medium Audit Log Secure Container ~200k * 390 325 33 100k 1M HP * *
Large Audit Log Secure Container ~450k * 780 650 65 1M 10M HP * *
Small Secure Container ~6k 120 100 10 10k 50k HP * 100 m
Medium Secure Container ~30k 390 325 33 100k 50k HP * 325 m
Large Secure Container ~50k 780 650 65 1M 500k HP * 650 m
Huge Secure Container ~120k 1950 1500 150 3M 500k HP * 1500 m
Giant Secure Container ~170k 3900 3000 300 6M 500k HP * 3000 m
Small Freight Container ~20k 1000 1000 100 1M 10 HP (2 shots)
Medium Freight Container ~45k 5000 5000 500 1M 10 HP (4 shots)
Large Freight Container ~150k 10k 10k 1000 1M 10 HP
Huge Freight Container ~200k 50k 50k 5000 1M 10 HP
Giant Freight Container ~200k 120k 120k 1200 1M 10 HP
Enormous Freight Container ~400k 250k 250k 2500 1M 10 HP
Jettisoned Cargo Container (Jetcan) - 27.5k - - -
Station Container ~30k 1M 1M 10k 3M 10M HP * *
Station Vault Container ~300k 10M 5M 50k 6M 10M HP * *
Station Warehouse Container ~1B 100M 10M 100k 18M 100M HP * *

Notes: Prices are lowest trade hub sell prices and provided for orientation only. * denotes very low trade volume.

Data is from in-game info and EVElopedia. Note some inconsistencies e.g. packaged volume of huge vs. giant freight containers. Missing HP and signature radius is because in-game info is incomplete and I don't have a Freighter pilot to test all values.

Jetcans are generated whenever a ship "jettisons" any items.

Secure Container: This Giant container is fitted with a password-protected security lock. Note: the container must be anchored to enable password functionality. Anchoring containers is only possible in solar systems with a security status of 0.7 or lower. Requirements: Anchoring Level I

AL Secure C: This large audit log container is fitted with a password-protected security lock. Requirements: Anchoring Level I

todo

  • measure sig radius by Scorpion lock time: sfc 10s, msc 23s
  • test medium & large freight container HP in Orca (cargo, lock time) and frigate (civilian railgun)
  • all in table have blueprint on market
  • life time
  • health
  • what does audit log track?
  • repackaging (damage, 3 week station timer)
  • containers can be named, not in ship, (in space?)
  • no people in containers
  • Containers can not be anchored closer than 5km to each other or to other bodies in space.
  • You can jettison cargo, i.e. create a jetcan, only every 2 minutes.
  • scanning and double-wrapping:
    Cargo containers are scanable even inside a ship's cargo hold. There are only two ways to make cargo un-scanable: either use a Blockade-Runner which has an un-scanable cargo hold or set up a courier contract for a secure container, the latter will make the container "double-wrapped" and un-scanable in the couriers cargo hold.

open questions

  • can freight containers be jettisoned/anchored at all?
  • freight containers have no pwd/log?
  • what is sig radius of non-secure containers?
  • do standard containers have 10HP?
  • what is mass relevant for?

Introduction

Containers or Cargo Containers in EVE come in a variety of forms: cargo and station containers, with and without password protection and audit logging. They can be jettisoned from a ship but also anchored in space. They can be used to sort your loot, as in-space advertisement, for mining, as a supply depot, for can baiting unassuming noobs, to increase cargo space and more. In space they have a life time of between 2 hours if they are not anchored and 30 days for anchored secure containers.

Use Cases

  • jet-canning:
    a miner jettisoning the mined ore into space creating an object labeled "Cargo Container" in-game but called Jettison Container or jetcan here for clarity. This jetcan has 27500 m3 capacity and can be filled up while mining and hauled to station later. This reduces hauling time for solo miners or lets a miner easily cooperate with a dedicated hauler in a mining op. However it also risks loosing the ore to anybody who picks it up and doesn't mind the resulting suspect status (yellow flashy). The lifetime of a jetcan is about 2 hours or until next downtime.
  • secure container mining:
    while mining put your ore into a secure container to be picked up later by you or a dedicated hauler. Using a Giant Secure Container instead of a jetcan removes the risk of losing it but it is much smaller (3900 m3) and requires buying it and hauling it into space.
  • inventory sorting:
    in station put your modules and ships into containers named by category
  • organize resource access in a corp:
    in a corp, use different containers and corp roles to only let specific people access certain resources
  • can baiting:
    jettison a container into space so an unexperienced player may pick it up and become a suspect (yellow flashy) so you can shoot him. Note that this is griefing, not allowed in the Uni and against the EULA in starter systems.
  • advertisements in space:
    put a secure can near a gate or station and name it to advertise something
  • increasing cargo space:
    put a cargo container in your hauler to increase cargo capacity
  • in-space supply depot:
    put ammo and other supplies in a secure container somewhere in deep space, although a Mobile Depot may be a better choice since Rubicon 1.1
  • de-cloaking:
    anchor containers in tactically important locations such as near gates in order to de-cloak ships that come as close as 2000m

Sources and References

This page is based on EVE-WIKI: Cargo Containers, EVElopedia: Secure Containers, Grismar: Secure Container, Grismar: Cargo Containers, Grismar: Jettison Container and EVEinfo: Giant Secure Containers. It covers the status quo as of Rubicon 1.3 (March 2014).

Container Types

Cargo containers can be stored in stations and ships, jettisoned into space, anchored in space and eventually scooped up again. They can be distinguished into 3 types:

Container Type
Category password protection audit log hitpoints
Standard Container no no 10 HP
Secure Container yes no 5k - 50k HP
Audit Log Secure Container yes yes 100k - 10M HP

The password protection uses two passwords, one to access the container at all and a second one that is required to reconfigure it. Password protection also depends on your personal and corporation security settings.

Launch for self

In this case anyone who knows the password can access the container but only you can unanchor it. When you launch the container you must be at least 5.000m away from the nearest anchored object, such as an asteroid, a space station, another container (including your own) or even a ship wreck. This also applies to the methods explained below. Launch for corp

Launch for Corp

When a secure container is launched for a corporation, only members of the corporation which have the Equipment Management role will be able to anchor and unanchor it. This can be useful in large corporations as you will want to keep control over where vital containers are located.

Size

Containers come in different sizes, some of which will only fit in stations. Some are slightly bigger on the inside than on the outside and thus can be used to increase cargo space on a ship. Stacking containers is not possible.

Cargo Container Sizes
Size outer Volume inner Volume
Small Container 100 m3 120 m3
Medium Container 325 m3 390 m3
Large Container 650 m3 780 m3
Huge Container 1 500 m3 1 950 m3
Giant Container 3 000 m3 3 900 m3 fits in some T1 industrials
Jettison Container (jetcan) 27 500 m3 27 500 m3 created when using "Jettison"
Freight Container 120 000 m3 120 000 m3 fits in a Freighter
Station Container 1 000 000 m3 1 000 000 m3 does not fit in any ship
Station Vault 10 000 000 m3 10 000 000 m3 does not fit in any ship
Station Warehouse 100 000 000 m3 100 000 000 m3 does not fit in any ship

Price and Seeding

Secure Container Prices
Volume Capacity Price
Small Secure Container 100 m3 120 m3 5 000 ISK
Medium Secure Container 325 m3 390 m3 14 500 ISK
Large Secure Container 650 m3 780 m3 31 000 ISK
Huge Secure Container 1500 m3 1950 m3 67 500 ISK
Giant Secure Container 3000 m3 3900 m3 152 750 ISK

Anchoring

A container that is jettisoned from a ship can be scooped up by anybody even if it is password protected. If you have the Anchoring skill and are in a system with a security status of 0.7 or less, you can also "Launch for Self" or "Launch for Corp" instead of "Jettison" and this will anchor the container.Anchoring will take a little time. You also need to set a password after launching it or anybody will be able to access it. The password can only be changed by repackaging the container at a station. Red light/green light.

Related Topics

The Mobile Tractor Unit (MTU) and Mobile Depot are not considered containers, however they share some of the game mechanics and overlap in practical use.

The MTU is similar to an anchored container with a tractor beam attached. It will tractor in everything inside its ??? km radius. It has much less hitpoints than a container though and can thus easily be destroyed.

The Mobile Depot is like a secure anchored container with a refitting service and a reinforcement timer. So it is very difficult to destroy and superior in most cases to using a secure container as a supply depot in deep space.