Talk:The Blood-Stained Stars

Mission bonus reward ISK amounts and time limits seem to vary?

I did Blood-Stained Stars for the first time in early June, soon after I started playing in late May (2014). On the 11th mission, I had the idea to check its wiki article for any corrections/updates I could make... turns out I ended up editing the bonus reward and/or its time limit on nearly every mission thereafter. And now Rias kishunuba seems to have done pretty much exactly the same thing, by changing the bonus rewards and/or time limits missions 7-23 and 27-49. And I don't think it's a matter of different Negotiation skill level, because:

1. Some of Rias's corrections where higher, some lower than mine, and I observed a similar pattern when I did my changes in June.
2. Negotiation wouldn't affect the time limits anyway.
3. As far as I know (made an edit on this same article to remind about this at 22:22, 11 June 2014) Negotiation doesn't/shouldn't affect the ISK rewards from epic arcs, or at least not this one (I can't remember what the source on that was though, and didn't find it in the first few places I looked on the wiki)

I'll probably run The Blood-Stained Stars again as soon as I'm able to on the same character, in mid/late September: I'm thinking of logging the time limits and rewards again then (in a separate file, so I don't spam the revision history... again), see how they compare to the pre-June values, my values that I edited in on the 6th-11th of June, and Rias kishunuba's values, added on the 6th-7th of July. My guess is that they just happen to be slightly random for some reason, in which case the exact time limits/bonus ISK rewards really shouldn't be edited onto the wiki page every time, but we should replace them with approximate values and a note in the introduction section that the amounts and time limits do vary slightly. Example text for a single mission's rewards: "Bonus reward for completing within (approximately) 1 hour and 20 minutes: 140,000 ISK (or more)." Or just add asterisks after both the amounts and times, and a note at the start/end that they vary slightly. Ideally I think I would put the lowest time limits and lowest rewards on each mission, and a "may be longer/larger" note instead of just an "approximately".

--Gerart en daire (talk) 12:44, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Just a quick note that I still haven't gotten around to redoing the Blood-Stained Stars, and thus don't personally have any new info. --Gerart en daire (talk) 19:58, 8 February 2015 (CST)

Apologies for making yet another bonus reward amount change prior to reading this talk page. --Jean inkura (talk) 19:15, 14 January 2017 (CST)

Page Layout and Content

I appreciate the effort made in creating this page, yet in my opinion it's somewhat useless and tedious, been a verbatim of the agent convo in game. This redundant text clutters the page, this makes it hard to find any useful information.

I have 2 suggestions, the easiest yet effective would be to frame the "convo" separate from the actual info about the mission.

The second method is more labour intensive but relatively easy to find relevant info at a glance would be to use a table to list the Mission's stats, such as type, difficulty, damage received, recommended ship to use, total reward amount, loot value and any other relevant information. This table would be in addition to the current page content. Thanks and keep up the good work.

PS. I would do it myself if I had the time to refresh my wiki coding skills --Jean inkura (talk) 19:15, 14 January 2017 (CST) (former Minecraft Wiki Admin/ Top Contributor)