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* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Classes (seems all right, though could do with a little bit of intro text) (Marek: Agreed)

* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Teaching_Department (retain and spruce up) (Marek: Agreed, but we probably want to do this one last ;) )

* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Teaching_Department (retain and spruce up) (Marek: Agreed, but we probably want to do this one last ;) ) (Anidien: I killed the link to the after-class report, and deleted the page housing that report and its redirect. The form is no longer used. Later note: apparently not supposed to delete in this manner, so for now, further changes won't follow this path. Looking for another avenue with the same results.).

* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Attending_classes (retain, but make sure there's a straightforward summary early on--right now, the page's length and complexity makes it look like attending class is harder than it is!) (Marek: Agreed, but waiting for AA changes until update; probably needs something about classroom etiquette)

* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Teaching_Classes_at_EVE_University#Evaluation (Add note about class evaluation form being slightly borked.)

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==== Move ====

* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/List_of_EVE_University_teachers (We no longer use the teacher title in this way. Move professors to new professors page (like the record of CCI completions) and cleanse the rest) (Marek: we'd have to discuss this, honoring our professors is nice, but also feels a bit masturbatory as all professor are of the teaching staff... CCI is something everyone can achieve, professor is not...)

* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/List_of_EVE_University_teachers (We no longer use the teacher title in this way. Move professors to new professors page (like the record of CCI completions) and cleanse the rest) (Marek: we'd have to discuss this, honoring our professors is nice, but also feels a bit masturbatory as all professor are of the teaching staff... CCI is something everyone can achieve, professor is not...) (Anidien: I'm with Marek here - the list of recipients can be found in game, through the Corporation interface. Can't simply delete the page, so looking for new options on how to deal with this.)

==== Retire ====

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* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Syllabus_Template (suggest deletion, as we no longer use syllabi) (Marek: I don't see a sensible redirect, so deletion might be in order?)

* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/EVE_Reference_Sheets (radically incomplete, classes are out of date, files linked no longer exist)

(Anidien: I'm going to discuss syllabi with Wiki Mgr one more time, to see if there's a valid argument for retention of all of this out of date info. Later Note: Can't simply delete. Need another plan - concern is that the syllabus template and all the syllabi need to be archived, but need to solve for a means of turning off search hits for external search tools AND internal search tools, when pages we can't/shouldn't edit (e.g. user pages) still link to the archived page).

==== Uncertain ====

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A lot of these are still kicking around on the wiki. They are perhaps a less immediate problem, but we could consider whether some or all could be gently removed--as they can still turn up in Google results &c. Or, a less invasive option, we could make the deprecated class box that appears at the top of each of these more prominent and more warning-coloured.

(Anidien: See comment in retire section - going to discuss syllabi with Wiki Mgr to see if there's a strong argument for retention. I'd argue the pages fall in our department and are our call to delete or not - but hasty application of fire to the pages may create unintended work for curators. Later note: can't delete. Looking for non-delete solutions that remove the pages from being found via internal or external search tools, or a network of links.).

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 * https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Classes (seems all right, though could do with a little bit of intro text) (Marek: Agreed)
-* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Teaching_Department (retain and spruce up) (Marek: Agreed, but we probably want to do this one last ;) )
+* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Teaching_Department (retain and spruce up) (Marek: Agreed, but we probably want to do this one last ;) ) (Anidien: I killed the link to the after-class report, and deleted the page housing that report and its redirect.  The form is no longer used.  Later note: apparently not supposed to delete in this manner, so for now, further changes won't follow this path.  Looking for another avenue with the same results.).
 * https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Attending_classes (retain, but make sure there's a straightforward summary early on--right now, the page's length and complexity makes it look like attending class is harder than it is!) (Marek: Agreed, but waiting for AA changes until update; probably needs something about classroom etiquette)
 * https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Teaching_Classes_at_EVE_University#Evaluation (Add note about class evaluation form being slightly borked.)
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 ==== Move ====
-* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/List_of_EVE_University_teachers (We no longer use the teacher title in this way. Move professors to new professors page (like the record of CCI completions) and cleanse the rest) (Marek: we'd have to discuss this, honoring our professors is nice, but also feels a bit masturbatory as all professor are of the teaching staff... CCI is something everyone can achieve, professor is not...)
+* https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/List_of_EVE_University_teachers (We no longer use the teacher title in this way. Move professors to new professors page (like the record of CCI completions) and cleanse the rest) (Marek: we'd have to discuss this, honoring our professors is nice, but also feels a bit masturbatory as all professor are of the teaching staff... CCI is something everyone can achieve, professor is not...) (Anidien: I'm with Marek here - the list of recipients can be found in game, through the Corporation interface.  Can't simply delete the page, so looking for new options on how to deal with this.)
 ==== Retire ====
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 * https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Syllabus_Template (suggest deletion, as we no longer use syllabi)  (Marek: I don't see a sensible redirect, so deletion might be in order?)
 * https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/EVE_Reference_Sheets (radically incomplete, classes are out of date, files linked no longer exist)
+(Anidien: I'm going to discuss syllabi with Wiki Mgr one more time, to see if there's a valid argument for retention of all of this out of date info.  Later Note: Can't simply delete.  Need another plan - concern is that the syllabus template and all the syllabi need to be archived, but need to solve for a means of turning off search hits for external search tools AND internal search tools, when pages we can't/shouldn't edit (e.g. user pages) still link to the archived page).
 ==== Uncertain ====
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 A lot of these are still kicking around on the wiki. They are perhaps a less immediate problem, but we could consider whether some or all could be gently removed--as they can still turn up in Google results &c. Or, a less invasive option, we could make the deprecated class box that appears at the top of each of these more prominent and more warning-coloured.
+(Anidien: See comment in retire section - going to discuss syllabi with Wiki Mgr to see if there's a strong argument for retention.  I'd argue the pages fall in our department and are our call to delete or not - but hasty application of fire to the pages may create unintended work for curators.  Later note: can't delete.  Looking for non-delete solutions that remove the pages from being found via internal or external search tools, or a network of links.).