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notes=When you get a little bit of experience, try flying with one of the invulnerability fields offline. If you find that you feel comfortable with that, swap it out for a '''Remote Tracking Computer II''' module.}}
 
notes=When you get a little bit of experience, try flying with one of the invulnerability fields offline. If you find that you feel comfortable with that, swap it out for a '''Remote Tracking Computer II''' module.}}
  
With {{sk|Shield Upgrades|II}} (1 hour) you can buffer fit it by removing the afterburner:
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With {{sk|Shield Upgrades|II}} (1 hour) you can buffer fit it by removing the afterburner.
  
 
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Alternatively use what we recommend right now, which requires {{sk|Shield Upgrades|II}} (1 hour) and {{sk|Energy Grid Upgrades|III}} (6 1/2 hours) as well as allows for an afterburner to be fitted with {{sk|Power Grid Management|V}} (4 days and 6 hours):
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Alternatively use what we recommend right now, which requires {{sk|Shield Upgrades|II}} (1 hour) and {{sk|Energy Grid Upgrades|III}} (6 1/2 hours) as well as allows for an afterburner to be fitted with {{sk|Power Grid Management|V}} (4 days and 6 hours). Personally I prefer this, as it's a lot more flexible allowing you to fit pretty much the same as the above without the afterburner, while allowing you to fit the afterburner too once you have '''Power Grid Management V''' trained, get a tech two '''Medium Ancillary Current Router II''' rig in advance ... or by using a cheap +4% powergrid implant.
  
 
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shipDNA=11978:8641;4:2032;2:2281;1:6005;1:8529;1:8173;4:31360;2:23717;4:23719;1:28999;1:29001;1::|
 
shipDNA=11978:8641;4:2032;2:2281;1:6005;1:8529;1:8173;4:31360;2:23717;4:23719;1:28999;1:29001;1::|
 
skills=All the [[Preparing for Incursions#Logistics|recommended skills]]</li><li>{{sk|Shield Upgrades|II}}</li><li>{{sk|Energy Grid Upgrades|III}}</li><li>{{sk|Power Grid Management|V}} ''(see notes)''|
 
skills=All the [[Preparing for Incursions#Logistics|recommended skills]]</li><li>{{sk|Shield Upgrades|II}}</li><li>{{sk|Energy Grid Upgrades|III}}</li><li>{{sk|Power Grid Management|V}} ''(see notes)''|
notes=Alternatively you can skip the '''Experimental 10MN Afterburner I''' and fit a '''Remote Tracking Computer II''' instead, which doesn't require you to have '''Power Grid Upgrades V'''.}}
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notes=Alternatively you can skip the '''Experimental 10MN Afterburner I''' and fit a '''Remote Tracking Computer II''' instead, which doesn't require you to have '''Power Grid Upgrades V'''.</li><li>With the ''''Squire' Engineering EG-604''' implant, or equivalent implants giving you +4% more powergrid, you won't need '''Power Grid Upgrades V'''.</li><li>If you replace one of the tech one rigs with a tech two '''Medium Ancillary Current Router II''' rig you won't need '''Power Grid Upgrades V''' to begin with. The rig would serve as a premature upgrade for the more advanced fits you'll fly as soon as your skills improve.}}
  
 
== Intermediate fits ==
 
== Intermediate fits ==
This assumes you have the following skills, intended for a mid-way step or for someone training from a damage dealer into logistics later on. Focusing on getting tech two remote shield boosters, as that is your primary goal stepping up from the starter fit. Links are fine, but ultimately reps are more important.
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Would we benefit from an intermediate step here, to get tech two reppers after the first couple of weeks, so people don't wait three months for the advanced fits before they up their repping power?
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This assumes you have the following skills.
 
* {{sk|Energy Grid Upgrades|III}} (6 hours)
 
* {{sk|Energy Grid Upgrades|III}} (6 hours)
 
* {{sk|Power Grid Management|V}} (4 days and 6 hours)
 
* {{sk|Power Grid Management|V}} (4 days and 6 hours)
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notes=When you get a little bit of experience, try flying with one of the invulnerability fields offline. If you find that you feel comfortable with that, swap it out for a '''Remote Tracking Computer II''' module.</li><li>You don't need the rigging skills to fly the ship, someone else can rig it for you.}}
 
notes=When you get a little bit of experience, try flying with one of the invulnerability fields offline. If you find that you feel comfortable with that, swap it out for a '''Remote Tracking Computer II''' module.</li><li>You don't need the rigging skills to fly the ship, someone else can rig it for you.}}
  
For a buffer fit you'd need {{sk|Shield Upgrades|II}} trained:
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For a buffer fit you'd need {{sk|Shield Upgrades|II}} (1 hour) trained. Ideally I'd get an afterburner on there, but with tech two reppers there's just no way of doing that without serious ISK-investments, implants, not to mention another month of skilling.
  
 
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== Advanced fits ==
 
== Advanced fits ==
These fits requires you to have the following skills trained.
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These fits requires you to have the following skills trained, which takes about two to three months at least.
 
* {{sk|Power Grid Management|V}} (4 days and 6 hours)
 
* {{sk|Power Grid Management|V}} (4 days and 6 hours)
 
* {{sk|Capacitor Systems Operation|V}} (4 days and 6 hours)
 
* {{sk|Capacitor Systems Operation|V}} (4 days and 6 hours)
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notes=You don't need the rigging skills to fly the ship, someone else can rig it for you.</li><li>If you feel comfortable with the additional cost, upgrade to '''Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer''' modules.}}
 
notes=You don't need the rigging skills to fly the ship, someone else can rig it for you.</li><li>If you feel comfortable with the additional cost, upgrade to '''Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer''' modules.}}
  
If we want to go with buffer fits, it would require something like {{sk|Shield Upgrades|V}} and this:
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If we want to go with buffer fits, it would require something like {{sk|Shield Upgrades|V}} (11 days and 20 hours) and this. Fitting the large shield extender and the afterburner is hard.
  
 
{{ShipFitting|
 
{{ShipFitting|

Revision as of 16:24, 9 February 2014

Scimitar

Starter fits

Assuming the skills we recommend.

Scimitar: Incursions (starter fit)
EFT
[Scimitar, Incursions (starter fit)]
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Light Shield Maintenance Bot I x1
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x4

Optimal Range Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1

Fitting template high slot label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template mid slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template low slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template subsystem slots label.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
Fitting template charge slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template rig slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
RUBI 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES
  • When you get a little bit of experience, try flying with one of the invulnerability fields offline. If you find that you feel comfortable with that, swap it out for a Remote Tracking Computer II module.


With Shield Upgrades II (1 hour) you can buffer fit it by removing the afterburner.


Scimitar: Incursions (starter buffer fit)
EFT
[Scimitar, Incursions (starter buffer fit)]
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Barton Reactor Capacitor Recharger I
Barton Reactor Capacitor Recharger I
Barton Reactor Capacitor Recharger I

Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I


Light Shield Maintenance Bot I x1
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x4

Fitting template high slot label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template mid slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template low slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template subsystem slots label.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
Fitting template charge slots label.png
Fitting template rig slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
RUBI 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
RECOMMENDED SKILLS
NOTES


Alternatively use what we recommend right now, which requires Shield Upgrades II (1 hour) and Energy Grid Upgrades III (6 1/2 hours) as well as allows for an afterburner to be fitted with Power Grid Management V (4 days and 6 hours). Personally I prefer this, as it's a lot more flexible allowing you to fit pretty much the same as the above without the afterburner, while allowing you to fit the afterburner too once you have Power Grid Management V trained, get a tech two Medium Ancillary Current Router II rig in advance ... or by using a cheap +4% powergrid implant.


Scimitar: Incursions (starter buffer fit with AB)
EFT
[Scimitar, Incursions (starter buffer fit with AB)]
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I


Light Shield Maintenance Bot I x1
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x4

Tracking Speed Script x1
Optimal Range Script x1

Fitting template high slot label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template mid slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template low slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template subsystem slots label.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
Fitting template charge slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template rig slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
RUBI 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
NOTES
  • Alternatively you can skip the Experimental 10MN Afterburner I and fit a Remote Tracking Computer II instead, which doesn't require you to have Power Grid Upgrades V.
  • With the 'Squire' Engineering EG-604 implant, or equivalent implants giving you +4% more powergrid, you won't need Power Grid Upgrades V.
  • If you replace one of the tech one rigs with a tech two Medium Ancillary Current Router II rig you won't need Power Grid Upgrades V to begin with. The rig would serve as a premature upgrade for the more advanced fits you'll fly as soon as your skills improve.


Intermediate fits

Would we benefit from an intermediate step here, to get tech two reppers after the first couple of weeks, so people don't wait three months for the advanced fits before they up their repping power?

This assumes you have the following skills.


Scimitar: Incursions (intermediate fit)
EFT
[Scimitar, Incursions (intermediate fit)]
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Light Shield Maintenance Bot I x1
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x4

Optimal Range Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1

Fitting template high slot label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template mid slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template low slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template subsystem slots label.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
Fitting template charge slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template rig slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
RUBI 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
NOTES
  • When you get a little bit of experience, try flying with one of the invulnerability fields offline. If you find that you feel comfortable with that, swap it out for a Remote Tracking Computer II module.
  • You don't need the rigging skills to fly the ship, someone else can rig it for you.


For a buffer fit you'd need Shield Upgrades II (1 hour) trained. Ideally I'd get an afterburner on there, but with tech two reppers there's just no way of doing that without serious ISK-investments, implants, not to mention another month of skilling.


Scimitar: Incursions (intermediate buffer fit)
EFT
[Scimitar, Incursions (intermediate buffer fit)]
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Beta Reactor Control: Reaction Control I

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Light Shield Maintenance Bot I x1
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot I x4

Fitting template high slot label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template mid slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template low slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template subsystem slots label.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
Fitting template charge slots label.png
Fitting template rig slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
RUBI 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
NOTES
  • You don't need the rigging skills to fly the ship, someone else can rig it for you.


Advanced fits

These fits requires you to have the following skills trained, which takes about two to three months at least.


Scimitar: Incursions (advanced fit)
EFT
[Scimitar, Incursions (advanced fit)]
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Remote Tracking Computer II
Remote Tracking Computer II
Remote Tracking Computer II

Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x1
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x4

Tracking Speed Script x1
Optimal Range Script x1

Fitting template high slot label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template mid slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template low slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template subsystem slots label.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
Fitting template charge slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template rig slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
RUBI 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
NOTES
  • You don't need the rigging skills to fly the ship, someone else can rig it for you.
  • If you feel comfortable with the additional cost, upgrade to Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer modules.


If we want to go with buffer fits, it would require something like Shield Upgrades V (11 days and 20 hours) and this. Fitting the large shield extender and the afterburner is hard.


Scimitar: Incursions (advanced buffer fit)
EFT
[Scimitar, Incursions (advanced buffer fit)]
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large Remote Shield Booster II
Large S95a Remote Shield Booster

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Republic Fleet Large Shield Extender
Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Remote Tracking Computer II
Remote Tracking Computer II

Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II


Light Shield Maintenance Bot II x1
Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x4

Optimal Range Script x1
Tracking Speed Script x1

Fitting template high slot label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template mid slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template low slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template subsystem slots label.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template drone slots label.png
Fitting template charge slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
Fitting template rig slots label.png
icon?size=64&.png
icon?size=64&.png
FITTING DIFFICULTY
EVE VERSION
RUBI 1.0
ALPHA CAN USE
UNSET
EFT
SKILLS
NOTES
NOTES
  • You don't need the rigging skills to fly the ship, someone else can rig it for you.
  • With good skills this ship is cap stable on its own, but with the minimum skills needed you might have to use either the 'Squire' Energy Systems Operation EO-603 or the 'Squire' Energy Management EM-803 implant.
  • If you feel comfortable with the additional cost, upgrade to Shadow Serpentis Remote Tracking Computer modules, but that might require both implants mentioned earlier as they use 50% more cap.