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− | + | '''Creating an Alt Miner''' can help you get started mining and fly a [[Mining Barge]] in 7 days or an [[Exhumer]] within a month and a half. | |
− | '''Creating an Alt Miner''' can help you get started mining and fly a | ||
== Introduction == | == Introduction == | ||
− | Take consideration into whether you want to start a new account or train an in-account alt, depending if you are interested in creating an industrial alt in the future. You cannot train skills simultaneously on the same account between two different characters. If you choose to create an in-account alt and decide you want to go into industry, you'll have to retrain a new account or pay an account transfer fee. | + | Take consideration into whether you want to start a new account or train an in-account alt, depending if you are interested in creating an industrial alt in the future. You cannot train skills simultaneously on the same account between two different characters without paying for [[Multiple Character Training]] with PLEX. If you choose to create an in-account alt and decide you want to go into industry, you'll have to retrain a new account or pay an account transfer fee. |
− | Training a new | + | Training a new character to fly a Mining Barge such as the [[Retriever]], [[Covetor]], or [[Procurer]] from scratch using this guide will take about 7 days 17 hours, or 6 days 17 hours if you use +3 implants. |
+ | Training a new character to fly an Exhumer such as the [[Hulk]], [[Mackinaw]], or [[Skiff]] from scratch using this guide will take about 49 days 12 hours, or 43 days 1 hour if you use +3 implants. | ||
+ | You can further reduce training time by using the neural remap in this guide. | ||
'''The requirements are:''' | '''The requirements are:''' | ||
− | *Brand new | + | * Brand new character with no training |
− | * | + | * 69M ISK |
− | **Approximately | + | ** Approximately 34M ISK for four +3 implants (except for Charisma) |
− | **Approximately | + | ** Approximately 30M ISK for skill books |
− | ***This is only about | + | *** This is only about 1M ISK if you want to fly only a Mining Barge |
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== Preparation == | == Preparation == | ||
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Prepare your new character for training by having these items available: | Prepare your new character for training by having these items available: | ||
− | *Implants (+3 Implants) | + | * Implants (+3 Implants) |
− | **Ocular Filter - Basic | + | ** Ocular Filter - Basic |
− | **Cybernetic Subprocessor - Basic | + | ** Cybernetic Subprocessor - Basic |
− | **Memory Augmentation - Basic | + | ** Memory Augmentation - Basic |
− | **Neural Boost - Basic | + | ** Neural Boost - Basic |
− | *Skillbooks | + | * Skillbooks |
− | ** | + | ** {{sk|Astrogeology}} |
− | + | ** {{sk|Mining Barge}} | |
− | + | ** {{sk|Exhumers}} | |
− | **Mining Barge | ||
− | **Exhumers | ||
=== Remapping === | === Remapping === | ||
− | + | To save time with minimal effort, remap your character's attributes to Intelligence-Perception as listed below: | |
− | + | '''Remapping (active) : i23 p25 c17 w17 m17''' | |
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− | This eliminates | + | This eliminates 3 days 2 hours off the training time and ensures the 48 days maximum training period. This is also a reasonable setup for learning many combat skills. It will leave you with another remapping to use. |
== The Training Plan == | == The Training Plan == | ||
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+ | |name=Basic Training Plan | ||
+ | |width=400px | ||
+ | |desc=This will allow you to fly a Hulk with Strip Miner Is | ||
+ | |Spaceship Command IV | ||
+ | Industry II | ||
+ | Industry III | ||
+ | Industry IV | ||
+ | Industry V | ||
+ | Mining IV | ||
+ | Astrogeology I | ||
+ | Astrogeology II | ||
+ | Astrogeology III | ||
+ | Astrogeology IV | ||
+ | Mining Frigate II | ||
+ | Mining Frigate III | ||
+ | Mining Barge I | ||
+ | Mining Barge II | ||
+ | Mining Barge III | ||
+ | Mining Barge IV | ||
+ | Mining Barge V | ||
+ | Astrogeology V | ||
+ | Exhumers I | ||
+ | Exhumers II | ||
+ | Exhumers III | ||
+ | }} | ||
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+ | {{sk|Spaceship Command|IV|mult=yes}} 18 hours | ||
− | == | + | {{sk|Industry|V|mult=yes}} 5 days, 2 hours, 33 minutes |
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+ | {{sk|Mining|IV|mult=yes}} 18 hours | ||
− | + | {{sk|Astrogeology|IV|mult=yes}} 2 days, 17 hours, 35 minutes | |
− | + | {{sk|Mining Frigate|III|mult=yes}} 7 hours, 30 minutes | |
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− | + | {{sk|Mining Barge|V|mult=yes}} 20 days, 14 hours | |
− | + | {{sk|Astrogeology|V|mult=yes}} 12 days, 17 hours, 25 minutes | |
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− | + | {{sk|Exhumers|III|mult=yes}} 19 hours 19 minutes | |
− | == Going | + | == Going Further == |
To be the best miner you can be, the following skills are excellent choices to train. | To be the best miner you can be, the following skills are excellent choices to train. | ||
− | + | === Mining support skills === | |
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+ | * {{sk|Exhumers|V}} (For the best yield, lowest cycle time on ice) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Mining|V}} (For Modulated Strip Miner IIs) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Target Management|IV}} (without this you can only target 2 rocks. Training to this III or IV is a very short train and will give you up to 6 targeted rocks at the same time} | ||
+ | * {{sk|Long Range Targeting|III}} (if you plan to fly under an orca with 25k range boosts then you might need this to target 25k rocks. It's possible the orca or someone else is giving a boost for targeting range as well but in my experience, this is not always the case. most orcas focus on yield, strip miner range, and cycle time bonuses) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Mining Upgrades|IV}} (For Mining Laser Upgrade II) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Drones|V}} and {{sk|Light Drone Operation|I}} (good for flying 2 drones to shoot rats if you plan to mine in 0.8 or lower) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Simple Ore Processing|IV}} | ||
+ | * {{sk|Ice Harvesting|V}} (if you're an ice miner) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Cybernetics|V}} (for the yield implants) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Mining Drone Operation|V}} | ||
+ | * {{sk|Drone Interfacing|V}} | ||
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+ | ===Crystal skills=== | ||
+ | To use Strip Miner IIs and the crystals associated with them, you will need to train up a few skills. Crystals with Strip Miner IIs greatly improve your yield and thus make mining more profitable. Note that you do not need to train in every type of crystal. You can train into the crystals for ores you mine the most and train the rest when you feel like doing so or you want to mine other kinds of ore. You might also notice that there is an overlap of skills to such a degree that once you've trained the skills for one type of crystal it is easier to train into another. | ||
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+ | '''Plagioclase, Pyroxeres, Scordite, Veldspar and Mordunium''' | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Simple Ore Processing|IV}} unlocks T2 '''Simple Ore Mining Crystals''' | ||
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+ | '''Hedbergite, Hemorphite, Jaspet, Kernite, Omber, Ytirium''' | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|V}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Coherent Ore Processing|IV}} unlocks T2 '''Coherent Ore Mining Crystals''' | ||
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+ | '''Arkonor, Bistot, Spodumain, Eifyrium and Ducinium''' | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Science|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Metallurgy|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing Efficiency|V}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Complex Ore Processing}} unlocks T2 '''Complex Ore Mining Crystals''' | ||
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+ | '''Cobaltite, Euxenite, Titanite, and Scheelite''' | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Science|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Metallurgy|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing Efficiency|V}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Common Moon Ore Processing|IV}} unlocks T2 '''Common Moon Ore Mining Crystals | ||
+ | ''' | ||
+ | '''Otavite, Sperrylite, Vanadinite, and Chromite''' | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Science|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Metallurgy|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing Efficiency|V}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Uncommon Moon Ore Processing|IV}} unlocks T2 '''Uncommon Moon Ore Mining Crystals''' | ||
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+ | '''Xenotime, Monazite, Loparite, and Ytterbite''' | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Science|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Metallurgy|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing Efficiency|V}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Exceptional Moon Ore Processing|IV}} unlocks T2 '''Exceptional Moon Ore Mining Crystals''' | ||
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+ | '''Zeolites, Sylvite, Bitumens, and Coesite''' | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Science|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Metallurgy|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
− | + | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|IV}} (prerequisite) | |
− | * | + | *{{Sk|Reprocessing Efficiency|V}} (prerequisite) |
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− | + | *{{Sk|Ubiquitous Moon Ore Processing|IV}} unlocks T2 '''Ubiquitous Moon Ore Mining Crystals''' | |
− | ''' | + | '''Crokite, Dark Ochre, Gneiss''' |
− | * | + | *{{Sk|Science|IV}} (prerequisite) |
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− | + | *{{Sk|Metallurgy|IV}} (prerequisite) | |
− | + | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|IV}} (prerequisite) | |
− | * | + | *{{Sk|Reprocessing Efficiency|V}} (prerequisite) |
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− | + | *{{Sk|Variegated Ore Processing|IV}} unlocks T2 '''Variegated Ore Mining Crystals''' | |
− | ''' | + | '''Bezdnacine, Rakovene, Talassonite''' |
− | * | + | *{{Sk|Science|IV}} (prerequisite) |
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− | + | *{{Sk|Metallurgy|IV}} (prerequisite) | |
− | + | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|IV}} (prerequisite) | |
− | * | + | *{{Sk|Reprocessing Efficiency|V}} (prerequisite) |
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− | ''' | + | *{{Sk|Abyssal Ore Processing|IV}} unlocks T2 '''Abyssal Asteroid Ore Mining Crystals''' |
− | * | + | '''Mercoxit''' |
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+ | *{{Sk|Science|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Metallurgy|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing|IV}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Reprocessing Efficiency|V}} (prerequisite) | ||
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+ | *{{Sk|Mercoxit Ore Processing|IV}} unlock T2 '''Merxocit Ore Mining Crystals''' | ||
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+ | === Fitting skills === | ||
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+ | * {{sk|CPU Management|IV}} (if you want to fit a full load of strip miners IIs in the high slots, a survey scanner II in the medium and full load of mining laser upgrade IIs in the low slots on any mining barge then you will find you need level IV of this skill. Additional skill might be needed for depending on how you fit your exhumer) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Capacitor Management|IV}} | ||
+ | * {{sk|Capacitor Systems Operation|IV}} | ||
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+ | === Tanking skills === | ||
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+ | * {{sk|Shield Operation|III}} (or higher) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Shield Management|III}} (or higher) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Shield Compensation|III}} (or higher) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Tactical Shield Manipulation|IV}} (allows for Multispectrum Shield Hardener II) | ||
+ | * {{sk|EM Shield Compensation|III}} (or higher) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Thermal Shield Compensation|III}} (or higher) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Explosive Shield Compensation|III}} (or higher) | ||
+ | * {{sk|Kinetic Shield Compensation|III}} (or higher) | ||
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+ | === Implants for improved yield === | ||
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+ | * Inherent Implants 'Highwall' Mining MX-1001(-1003/-1005) (Slot 10) | ||
+ | ** 1-5% improved mining yield, costs 1M-150M ISK (as of this writing) | ||
+ | * Michi's Excavation Augmentor (Slot 7) | ||
+ | ** 5% improved mining yield, costs 2.1B ISK (as of this writing) | ||
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+ | == What to do with all that ore == | ||
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+ | Now that you're mining incredible amounts of ore efficiently, you need something to do with that ore. Here are some ideas: | ||
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+ | *Sell the ore to [[Buyback|University Buyback]] | ||
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+ | *Sell the ore to an industrialist who needs it to make stuff via the {{co|slateblue|#Buy-or-Sell}} channel on EVE University's Discord | ||
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+ | *Ask a [[Perfect_Refine_List|Perfect Refiner]] to refine your ore into minerals that you can use to build stuff yourself | ||
== References == | == References == | ||
− | *[ | + | * [https://newedenmining.blogspot.co.uk New Eden Mining] |
− | *[ | + | * [https://www.eveonline.com/news/view/dual-character-training Dev Blog: Dual Character Training] |
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+ | {{Mining Links}} | ||
− | [[Category:Guides]] [[Category: | + | [[Category:Guides]] |
+ | [[Category:Getting Started]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Mining]] | ||
+ | [[Category:Accounts]] |
Latest revision as of 07:39, 10 April 2024
- Main article: Alternate characters
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Creating an Alt Miner can help you get started mining and fly a Mining Barge in 7 days or an Exhumer within a month and a half.
Introduction
Take consideration into whether you want to start a new account or train an in-account alt, depending if you are interested in creating an industrial alt in the future. You cannot train skills simultaneously on the same account between two different characters without paying for Multiple Character Training with PLEX. If you choose to create an in-account alt and decide you want to go into industry, you'll have to retrain a new account or pay an account transfer fee.
Training a new character to fly a Mining Barge such as the Retriever, Covetor, or Procurer from scratch using this guide will take about 7 days 17 hours, or 6 days 17 hours if you use +3 implants. Training a new character to fly an Exhumer such as the Hulk, Mackinaw, or Skiff from scratch using this guide will take about 49 days 12 hours, or 43 days 1 hour if you use +3 implants. You can further reduce training time by using the neural remap in this guide.
The requirements are:
- Brand new character with no training
- 69M ISK
- Approximately 34M ISK for four +3 implants (except for Charisma)
- Approximately 30M ISK for skill books
- This is only about 1M ISK if you want to fly only a Mining Barge
Preparation
Prepare your new character for training by having these items available:
- Implants (+3 Implants)
- Ocular Filter - Basic
- Cybernetic Subprocessor - Basic
- Memory Augmentation - Basic
- Neural Boost - Basic
- Skillbooks
Remapping
To save time with minimal effort, remap your character's attributes to Intelligence-Perception as listed below:
Remapping (active) : i23 p25 c17 w17 m17
This eliminates 3 days 2 hours off the training time and ensures the 48 days maximum training period. This is also a reasonable setup for learning many combat skills. It will leave you with another remapping to use.
The Training Plan
Basic Training Plan
This will allow you to fly a Hulk with Strip Miner Is
Expand this box to view a Skill queue to use in-game
Spaceship Command IV Industry II Industry III Industry IV Industry V Mining IV Astrogeology I Astrogeology II Astrogeology III Astrogeology IV Mining Frigate II Mining Frigate III Mining Barge I Mining Barge II Mining Barge III Mining Barge IV Mining Barge V Astrogeology V Exhumers I Exhumers II Exhumers III
Spaceship Command IV (1x) 18 hours
Industry V (1x) 5 days, 2 hours, 33 minutes
Mining IV (1x) 18 hours
Astrogeology IV (3x) 2 days, 17 hours, 35 minutes
Mining Frigate III (2x) 7 hours, 30 minutes
Mining Barge V (4x) 20 days, 14 hours
Astrogeology V (3x) 12 days, 17 hours, 25 minutes
Exhumers III (5x) 19 hours 19 minutes
Going Further
To be the best miner you can be, the following skills are excellent choices to train.
Mining support skills
- Exhumers V (For the best yield, lowest cycle time on ice)
- Mining V (For Modulated Strip Miner IIs)
- Target Management IV (without this you can only target 2 rocks. Training to this III or IV is a very short train and will give you up to 6 targeted rocks at the same time}
- Long Range Targeting III (if you plan to fly under an orca with 25k range boosts then you might need this to target 25k rocks. It's possible the orca or someone else is giving a boost for targeting range as well but in my experience, this is not always the case. most orcas focus on yield, strip miner range, and cycle time bonuses)
- Mining Upgrades IV (For Mining Laser Upgrade II)
- Drones V and Light Drone Operation I (good for flying 2 drones to shoot rats if you plan to mine in 0.8 or lower)
- Simple Ore Processing IV
- Ice Harvesting V (if you're an ice miner)
- Cybernetics V (for the yield implants)
- Mining Drone Operation V
- Drone Interfacing V
Crystal skills
To use Strip Miner IIs and the crystals associated with them, you will need to train up a few skills. Crystals with Strip Miner IIs greatly improve your yield and thus make mining more profitable. Note that you do not need to train in every type of crystal. You can train into the crystals for ores you mine the most and train the rest when you feel like doing so or you want to mine other kinds of ore. You might also notice that there is an overlap of skills to such a degree that once you've trained the skills for one type of crystal it is easier to train into another.
Plagioclase, Pyroxeres, Scordite, Veldspar and Mordunium
- Reprocessing IV (prerequisite)
- Simple Ore Processing IV unlocks T2 Simple Ore Mining Crystals
Hedbergite, Hemorphite, Jaspet, Kernite, Omber, Ytirium
- Reprocessing V (prerequisite)
- Coherent Ore Processing IV unlocks T2 Coherent Ore Mining Crystals
Arkonor, Bistot, Spodumain, Eifyrium and Ducinium
- Science IV (prerequisite)
- Metallurgy IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing Efficiency V (prerequisite)
- Complex Ore Processing unlocks T2 Complex Ore Mining Crystals
Cobaltite, Euxenite, Titanite, and Scheelite
- Science IV (prerequisite)
- Metallurgy IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing Efficiency V (prerequisite)
- Common Moon Ore Processing IV unlocks T2 Common Moon Ore Mining Crystals
Otavite, Sperrylite, Vanadinite, and Chromite
- Science IV (prerequisite)
- Metallurgy IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing Efficiency V (prerequisite)
- Uncommon Moon Ore Processing IV unlocks T2 Uncommon Moon Ore Mining Crystals
Xenotime, Monazite, Loparite, and Ytterbite
- Science IV (prerequisite)
- Metallurgy IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing Efficiency V (prerequisite)
- Exceptional Moon Ore Processing IV unlocks T2 Exceptional Moon Ore Mining Crystals
Zeolites, Sylvite, Bitumens, and Coesite
- Science IV (prerequisite)
- Metallurgy IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing Efficiency V (prerequisite)
- Ubiquitous Moon Ore Processing IV unlocks T2 Ubiquitous Moon Ore Mining Crystals
Crokite, Dark Ochre, Gneiss
- Science IV (prerequisite)
- Metallurgy IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing Efficiency V (prerequisite)
- Variegated Ore Processing IV unlocks T2 Variegated Ore Mining Crystals
Bezdnacine, Rakovene, Talassonite
- Science IV (prerequisite)
- Metallurgy IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing Efficiency V (prerequisite)
- Abyssal Ore Processing IV unlocks T2 Abyssal Asteroid Ore Mining Crystals
Mercoxit
- Science IV (prerequisite)
- Metallurgy IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing IV (prerequisite)
- Reprocessing Efficiency V (prerequisite)
- Mercoxit Ore Processing IV unlock T2 Merxocit Ore Mining Crystals
Fitting skills
- CPU Management IV (if you want to fit a full load of strip miners IIs in the high slots, a survey scanner II in the medium and full load of mining laser upgrade IIs in the low slots on any mining barge then you will find you need level IV of this skill. Additional skill might be needed for depending on how you fit your exhumer)
- Capacitor Management IV
- Capacitor Systems Operation IV
Tanking skills
- Shield Operation III (or higher)
- Shield Management III (or higher)
- Shield Compensation III (or higher)
- Tactical Shield Manipulation IV (allows for Multispectrum Shield Hardener II)
- EM Shield Compensation III (or higher)
- Thermal Shield Compensation III (or higher)
- Explosive Shield Compensation III (or higher)
- Kinetic Shield Compensation III (or higher)
Implants for improved yield
- Inherent Implants 'Highwall' Mining MX-1001(-1003/-1005) (Slot 10)
- 1-5% improved mining yield, costs 1M-150M ISK (as of this writing)
- Michi's Excavation Augmentor (Slot 7)
- 5% improved mining yield, costs 2.1B ISK (as of this writing)
What to do with all that ore
Now that you're mining incredible amounts of ore efficiently, you need something to do with that ore. Here are some ideas:
- Sell the ore to University Buyback
- Sell the ore to an industrialist who needs it to make stuff via the #Buy-or-Sell channel on EVE University's Discord
- Ask a Perfect Refiner to refine your ore into minerals that you can use to build stuff yourself
References
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