Talk:EVE University Rules

Killfeed Link updated needed

While looking over the rules, I noticed that the killfeed link (currently linked as http://killfeed.eve-ivy.com/) is no longer a valid link and simply redirects to the eveuniversity.org frontpage. A bit of searching found that the new link is http://killfeed.eveuniversity.org/. I was going to update it, but it seems that only higher-ups are able to edit the Rules page (which makes a lot of sense).

Anyone who has edit privileges might want to update the link to the new one. Starbuilder stasarik (talk) 15:33, 30 September 2015 (CDT)

ROE addition- Outlaws in hisec?

Today, someone asked about outlaws in hisec, and there is no explicit ROE for that. People keep asking, (they think they can catch pods) so might as well stick it in. Also, it should probably include an overview note in there, saying that good/high-standing MUST be higher than outlaw status, so people don't wind up podding an ally. Smoogle 08:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Claimable NullSec

At least for the next two weeks, all activity in sovnull other than structure bashing is allowed - should we edit this page to reflect that rule change, or wait for it to be made permanent?

--Raido Kudonen 1407, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

In the section regarding Claimable NullSec, I recommend adding the following blurb:

"While not required, it is recommended that all members add the following regions to their avoidance list to help avoid accidents where an autopilot route goes through Claimable NullSec:

• Cache
• Catch
• Cloud Ring
• Delve
• Etherium Reach
• Fountain
• Geminate
• Pure Blind
• Querious
• Scalding Pass
• Tribute
• Vale of the Silent

To add an entire region to your Autopilot's Avoidance list, go to NeoCom > Map > WORLD MAP CONTROL PANEL > SEARCH. For each region, one at a time, type the name of the region into the search field and press the SEARCH button. When the region shows up as a search result, right-click the result and select AVOID REGION. Repeat for each region."

--Seamus donohue 06:47, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Seamus, is that list comprehensive? Are all those regions the entirety of 0.0 space? Do they include any non-0.0?

Thanks...

Callin vandylx 20:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

It would be worth making that list and the instructions into a "Using the Autopilot Avoidance" page though, then we can link it. Kelduum revaan 13:00, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

I believe Kelduum is correct: the list I provided should be the list of all player-sovereign space that borders the regions Unistas are allowed in. It's not a complete list of all regions of player-sovereign space (that is, Claimable NullSec), but if you put all those regions on the Avoidance List, then all other player-sovereign space becomes unreachable. As long as the Autopilot is set to obey the avoidance list, you won't be given a course through player-sovereign space.

I'll get around to making an article on Avoidance when I get a chance.

--Seamus donohue 23:21, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Done.

--Seamus donohue 07:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposal for a Preface or Epilogue

Through the University's history, members have observed the sometimes harsh realities of policy enforcement actions. Policy enforcement actions are not the only venue for these member observations. Positions are often clarified through discussions in places that include in-game chat, the University forums, and private messaging facilities. Member responses to these communications and actions may include frustration due to a perceived lack of understanding or recourse and anger for perceived disrespect. A member who pursues personal satisfaction for these situations to address their negative perceptions may find instead that they're experiencing further resentment. They discover that the University is not a democracy. Members may find that, due to negative feelings or the desire for a situation more personally compatible, their only recourse for satisfaction is leaving the University.

It is important to understand that these dynamics are to be expected. Regardless of how it happens, the vast majority of University members outgrow this organization and leave. This is not a defect -- it is the University fulfilling its mission.

Policy action and reinforcement, at its best, does not come from being jaded or egotistical. It comes from the experience of what is necessary to keep the University intact and successful. Espionage, intrigue and interpersonal dramas are not merely a by-product of social structures within Eve Online, as they may be in other MMO games. Instead, they are an encouraged feature. In this environment, the University's goal of maintaining an open and agreeable corporation is effectively equivalent to swimming upstream. The University aims to provide an environment of learning and camaraderie. Boundaries are necessary to maintain the environment the University provides, and those boundaries may be enforced with ruthless efficiency and unwavering resolve. Execution of these policies has nothing to do with bringing you down, stifling your creativity or ruining your fun. It has everything to do with the University continuing to be available for transforming the new and inexperienced into competent and streetwise citizens of New Eden.

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I like this, but I would suggest that it should be pithier. Parts of the first paragraph, for example, read to me like a letter from local government ('policy enforcement actions', 'sometimes harsh', 'negative perceptions', 'a situation more personally compatible', 'recourse for satisfaction'). --Uryence 21:56, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Communication Policy - Hostile Parties

Might want to specify what an hostile party is. People with low standings often wander into the E-Uni channel and I'm not sure if I should communicate with them or not at all. I also have had people telling me it's OK to communicate with certain individuals.

There really needs to be a clear rule about this. Make it specific if need be.

Jenna sol 23:29, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Proposal - Fleet Class Outside Uni (After "Mixed Membership Fleets")

You may fly in fleets as part of E-Uni approved classes offered outside of the E-Uni without dropping corp. Please remember that in any of these fleets our Rules of Engagement and allowable areas are still in effect, and take precedence at all times over commands from your class FC. In some instances, E-Uni might provide representatives who can assist with clarifications during the fleet portion of the class. Please maintain the standard E-Uni overview even if an external class recommends their own settings.

W-Space out of date

The W-space section still says you need to proceed immediately from Claimable Null to "authorised space". Since you can now freely travel in Claimable Null, this bit can be deleted. Thabink (talk) 11:11, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Reporting to diplomat

I think a clarification about talking to a diplomat is needed. Since the change to NBSI in low sec, we are free to engage or be engaged by neutrals, it would be kind of strange to have to report all engagements in low.

So I propose the note in the rules of engagement to be changed into: "Remember to notify a diplomat if attacked by a neutral in high sec" Aldaran Kurvora 21:23, 03 September 2014 (UTC)