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The doctrine boils down to a few simple rules:
The doctrine boils down to a few simple rules:


===Unistas should mine in Procurers.===
=== Unistas should mine in Procurers. ===


The Procurer has better tank and time-to-warp than other barges, at a lower hull replacement cost. By mining in a Procurer, you are sacrificing 20-40% of the yield that you would get from a Covetor or Exhumer. Nevertheless, for null-sec ores and ice that are worth many times the value of high-sec ore, WH mining can still be more profitable than high-sec mining.
The Procurer has better tank and time-to-warp than other barges, at a lower hull replacement cost. By mining in a Procurer, you are sacrificing 20-40% of the yield that you would get from a Covetor or Exhumer. Nevertheless, for null-sec ores and ice that are worth many times the value of high-sec ore, WH mining can still be more profitable than high-sec mining.
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===Miners should mine at pre-made bookmarks, supplied by the FC.===
=== Miners should mine at pre-made bookmarks, supplied by the FC. ===


Wormhole ice belts are gigantic, often 400 km or more across. Because Procurers are slow, it will be easiest for them to mine where you want them if the FC makes some bookmarks in advance. Before the op, just warp to the belt, bookmark every ice rock that you want your fleet to mine, and then distribute these bookmarks in advance. The FC should also make a couple of bookmarks for the placement of Mobile Tractor Units that will collect everyone's cans to a few central locations. When I FC wormhole ops, I usually supply miners with a container of bookmarks at the beginning of the op, including bookmarks for the wormhole entry and exit, any alternative exits, a couple of safe spots (usually including the booster's safe), all of the ice locations, and the tractor locations.
Wormhole ice belts are gigantic, often 400 km or more across. Because Procurers are slow, it will be easiest for them to mine where you want them if the FC makes some bookmarks in advance. Before the op, just warp to the belt, bookmark every ice rock that you want your fleet to mine, and then distribute these bookmarks in advance. The FC should also make a couple of bookmarks for the placement of Mobile Tractor Units that will collect everyone's cans to a few central locations. When I FC wormhole ops, I usually supply miners with a container of bookmarks at the beginning of the op, including bookmarks for the wormhole entry and exit, any alternative exits, a couple of safe spots (usually including the booster's safe), all of the ice locations, and the tractor locations.
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Miners will jet-can ore, just as they do in a high-sec shared-can op, but cans will be immediately tractored. Cans are vulnerable to attack in WH space, so they need to be scooped quickly. As a result, miners shouldn't worry about naming your cans.
Miners will jet-can ore, just as they do in a high-sec shared-can op, but cans will be immediately tractored. Cans are vulnerable to attack in WH space, so they need to be scooped quickly. As a result, miners shouldn't worry about naming your cans.


===Mining boosts should be provided by an ordinary battlecruiser.===
=== Mining boosts should be provided by an ordinary battlecruiser. ===


Although Orcas are great for boosting AMC mining fleets in high-sec, they are too large to fit into many wormholes without collapsing the hole, and they are too expensive to lose in the risky environment of W-space. Instead, mining boosts can be supplied by an ordinary battecruiser fitted with boosting Link Modules. For example, Antei's alt Paul flies primarily Amarr, and so he boosts with a Prophecy:
Although Orcas are great for boosting AMC mining fleets in high-sec, they are too large to fit into many wormholes without collapsing the hole, and they are too expensive to lose in the risky environment of W-space. Instead, mining boosts can be supplied by an ordinary battecruiser fitted with boosting Link Modules. For example, Antei's alt Paul flies primarily Amarr, and so he boosts with a Prophecy:
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I've fit this with the two mining links, a shield resistance link, tanking modules, drones (partly just because the Prophecy is bonused for them), and a smartbomb to counter interdictor bubbles (which can be destroyed by smartbombs). But I'm definitely open to suggestions that don't require any more CPU for different things I might do with this.
I've fit this with the two mining links, a shield resistance link, tanking modules, drones (partly just because the Prophecy is bonused for them), and a smartbomb to counter interdictor bubbles (which can be destroyed by smartbombs). But I'm definitely open to suggestions that don't require any more CPU for different things I might do with this.


Even though the booster is fitted for mining and shield ("siege") support, the boosting pilot will also provide agility and other defensive boosts to fleeted miners according to skill in [[Skills:Leadership#Skirmish_Warfare|Skirmish Warfare]], [[Skills:Leadership#Armored_Warfare|Armored Warfare]] and [[Skills:Leadership#Siege_Warfare|Siege Warfare]].
Even though the booster is fitted for mining and shield ("siege") support, the boosting pilot will also provide agility and other defensive boosts to fleeted miners according to skill in [[Skills:Leadership#Skirmish Warfare|Skirmish Warfare]], [[Skills:Leadership#Armored Warfare|Armored Warfare]] and [[Skills:Leadership#Siege Warfare|Siege Warfare]].


In our WH mining ops, I usually post the booster at an off-grid safe spot that's as deep as I can make it. I have the booster aligned to the exit hole, so I can warp him out at the first sign of trouble.
In our WH mining ops, I usually post the booster at an off-grid safe spot that's as deep as I can make it. I have the booster aligned to the exit hole, so I can warp him out at the first sign of trouble.


===Hauler support should be provided by Miasmos pilots.===
=== Hauler support should be provided by Miasmos pilots. ===


Hauling in wormhole ops can't be provided by a freighter, like we use in high-sec shared-cans; a freighter would just make too inviting a target for wormhole residents. So we use the Miasmos instead:
Hauling in wormhole ops can't be provided by a freighter, like we use in high-sec shared-cans; a freighter would just make too inviting a target for wormhole residents. So we use the Miasmos instead:
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There are a number of ways to fit the Miasmos. In this fit, I've followed three guiding principles:
There are a number of ways to fit the Miasmos. In this fit, I've followed three guiding principles:
*The Miasmos should be quick to pilot if aggressed. Shield-tanked ships often have active shield mods in mid- and high-slots. But if you are engaged at a wormhole, you will have a lot to think about very quickly, and activating defensive modules might not be your first priority. So, I've chosen passive shield modules here. (They also conserve capacitor, but you may be dead before you run out of cap anyway.)
* The Miasmos should be quick to pilot if aggressed. Shield-tanked ships often have active shield mods in mid- and high-slots. But if you are engaged at a wormhole, you will have a lot to think about very quickly, and activating defensive modules might not be your first priority. So, I've chosen passive shield modules here. (They also conserve capacitor, but you may be dead before you run out of cap anyway.)
*The fit should minimize signature radius as much as possible. Shield-tanked Miasmos fits often include a Medium Shield Extender, but this comes with a sig radius penalty that will make you easier to lock. So I've avoided a shield extender here.
* The fit should minimize signature radius as much as possible. Shield-tanked Miasmos fits often include a Medium Shield Extender, but this comes with a sig radius penalty that will make you easier to lock. So I've avoided a shield extender here.
*The Miasmos should be able to cloak at a WH safe spot, and do the [[Cloak_Trick|MWD-cloak trick]] in a pinch.
* The Miasmos should be able to cloak at a WH safe spot, and do the [[Cloak Trick|MWD-cloak trick]] in a pinch.


The size of the Miasmos' ore hold depends a lot on the pilot's skills; a pilot with Gallente Industrial V will haul 30% more per trip than a pilot with Gallente Industrial II. And each Miasmos trip weakens the wormhole. So, if you volunteer to haul in a wormhole mining op, expect the FC to ask about your skills.
The size of the Miasmos' ore hold depends a lot on the pilot's skills; a pilot with Gallente Industrial V will haul 30% more per trip than a pilot with Gallente Industrial II. And each Miasmos trip weakens the wormhole. So, if you volunteer to haul in a wormhole mining op, expect the FC to ask about your skills.


It is our intent to use the [[AMC Buyback Spreadsheet]] to process reimbursement for ice mining ops.
It is our intent to use the [[Archive:AMC Buyback Spreadsheet]] to process reimbursement for ice mining ops.